Player LadySuburu is not found. That's a gimmick for another game, at another time.
forum
Information Mafia
posted
Total Posts
888
Topic Starter
rofl @ LS
okay what the fuck, dayvig? so much for that
brb rereading entire thread
okay what the fuck, dayvig? so much for that
brb rereading entire thread
Really guys, voting the mod...
anyone who would you target rEdo?
It seems there's no vig, as nobody has fake/claimed it yet, Royston, your action this night?
anyone who would you target rEdo?
It seems there's no vig, as nobody has fake/claimed it yet, Royston, your action this night?
DISCLAIMER: this post contains a lot of random thoughts and quotes. it may be impossible to follow, just be careful 0.0
FLIPS BECAUSE LS DOESN'T HAVE THE FLIPS IN THE FIRST POST RAGE
IMO Royston is town. keeps doing setup speculation even after CalignoBot said it was scummy. not to mention he outright posted he didn't have a wincon in his PM. I doubt scum would do all that unless I'm getting mindgamed and/or trolled
Raging Bull attacking Blue Yoshi seems playstyle based cause iirc RB did that with me before
though I don't think it'll happen at this point
DakeDekaane seems town for me
and now as mafia you can't keep making people think you're doing stuff
aw fk NH replaced Caligno. I wanted to see what Caligno's thoughts on NH were
aw damn it Tanz was town. so much for that
k getting to the end
oh look these alignments got delayed. mb that's what he was talking about
FLIPS BECAUSE LS DOESN'T HAVE THE FLIPS IN THE FIRST POST RAGE
Yuno - Hurried Jester (Conditional Saulus) - Flees the party alive D1.
Tanz - Speedy Reviver - Missing N1
Blue Yoshi's body was found, and he was a Town Doctor.
RB - ??? - Dissapeared N2
NoHItter - ??? - Dissapeared N2
Tanz - Speedy Reviver - Missing N1
Blue Yoshi's body was found, and he was a Town Doctor.
RB - ??? - Dissapeared N2
NoHItter - ??? - Dissapeared N2
^ that logic makes no sense whatsoever, it's RVDakeDekaane wrote:
So we'll be wasting more time or can we begin to lynch scumz?HoS: ???
No, really.
FoS: Tanz, Blue Yoshi
Sheeping disguised as RV? :I
IMO Royston is town. keeps doing setup speculation even after CalignoBot said it was scummy. not to mention he outright posted he didn't have a wincon in his PM. I doubt scum would do all that unless I'm getting mindgamed and/or trolled
glad to see my game had an influence on people <3DakeDekaane wrote:
@Royston: I said that because if there's manipulative/misleading roles, PRs are as useful as a squarish wheel, so we have to rely on merely scumhunting.
e.g. what all new players dofartownik wrote:
kook's argument made no sense, simple as that. He voted someone that he thought would be the least harmful for him, someone that can't counter his attack. He probably thinks that he's supposed to do something, but doesn't really know what and this is what comes out of it.
Also rEdo please stop sheeping to me :f
that post didn't even seem serious IMOCalignoBot wrote:
All these posts are pinging me. The first by itself warranted a vote.royston's 'first' wrote:
uh oh
Raging Bull attacking Blue Yoshi seems playstyle based cause iirc RB did that with me before
more setup speculationfartownik wrote:
I'm starting to think "???" is a Serial Killer that knows everyone's alignment.
NOPE, STAHP THROWING THESE THOUGHTS INTO MY MIND, LS
yeeaaaah You Are Mafia length <3LadySuburu wrote:
But if I don't make at least one of you think then this thread will never have posts because NOBODY IS POSTING COME ON GUS.
I want another You are Mafia length thread here.
though I don't think it'll happen at this point
DakeDekaane seems town for me
do you even know LSDake wrote:
inb4 bastard game
fartownik wrote:
Okay, so if you're not lying and all the hints are important - we should probably lynch The 15 Person, unless you just said that so we do it without hesitation.
flip flop?fartownik wrote:
I don't really see a point in voting for "???" right now, we know nothing about it. It really might flip anything, even Jester and then we would probably lose the game because we lynched it ;o It really makes no sense to discuss it right now, everyone that votes him (especially for no reason, just like kook did) pings for scum.
oh look that's probably correct. how the hell can you know that on D1 though 0.0Tanzklaue wrote:
also there is literally nothing that is absurdly bastard that can screw us over. I think the modtalk here is deriving our attention from the goal: finding scum.
wow no one's seriously pointed this outme wrote:
and before any of you get mad that I didn't even mention gut feeling, you all get mad when I do do it, so pick a side plzsrsly, I haven't got any gut feelings so far this game, cause not enough has happened. occult stuff can't be explained using logical ideas
knowing LS I wouldn't be surprisedBRBP wrote:
According to wikipedia, it was named in honour of Franziska Countess von Hardenberg. That's three capital letters. PGO has three capital letters. Guys, the 15th person must be a lightning rod PGO. Seriously farto, that makes no sense. Team Poland is wayyy too focused on the 15h person. Can we like... Wait for it to do something first?
fuck yeah. okay RB seems town for meRB wrote:
God fuck the 15 person. Why can't we focus on scum hunting? Play it like a regular game.
wat, roleclaiming for no reason.Royston wrote:
Okay, fine. I'm a motivator. I can target a person at night to "increase their role's effectiveness" (I presume it would give the role an additional action as on the wiki) and if possible it will take effect on the night it's used.
okay that just seems like you're pissed off because your whole read on D1 claimed an obv town roleTsukasa wrote:
What? Motivator?
You've got to be kidding me... >.>
and now as mafia you can't keep making people think you're doing stuff
aw fk NH replaced Caligno. I wanted to see what Caligno's thoughts on NH were
good call. he ended up being Doctor. seems like something scum would want to figure out cause it's generally the optimal play for PRsfartownik wrote:
I don't see anything exceptionally scummy in Blue Yoshi, but nothing exceptionally Towny as well.
man you sure warned us LOLYuno wrote:
youll just see
where'd you get that from? funny how it matches my current read ATMBRBP wrote:
rEdo's sheeping farscumnik for unknown reasons?
obv scum桜 wrote:
Sorry for intervening in your game, but according to the logs yuno has deleted a post 6 times. Just thought i'd let everyone know
Go on.
Tanzklaue wrote:
if there is a person who knows everyones role, then this person might not have wanted to lynch the jester, especially if the person is townaligned, even if that's unlikely.
flip flopTanzklaue wrote:
we should worry about actually doing something instead of speculations.
pushing wagon analysis on a Jester? and one who was being fking annoying and confusing as hell tooDakeDekaane wrote:
Why you don't want to look for the guys in the wagon? Afraid of something? Do you know something that the rest don't?
aw damn it Tanz was town. so much for that
towntellBRBP wrote:
Thanks for this, I completely forgot the game x_x
nice, BRBP is townBRBP wrote:
You've asked this three times now but haven't posted yours yet. All you've said it that we three are suspicious for not posting on D2.
scumslip? 0.0DakeDekaane wrote:
The people who are town may understand this better, as LS said that at the mere beginning of the game about our aligmnment, so if there isn't any kind of reviver, I think it's safe to consider dead people as town. Even you said "Saulus" (Yuno) convert to town after dead, so this is the most likely scenario.
k getting to the end
wait, what? Tanz's alignment was revealed, he was a speedy reviver, whatever that isfartownik wrote:
I actually thought the kill on Tanz was a delay from scum, but Blue Yoshi's alignment was not revealed either, and that's from a lynch. Perhaps all the alignments are revealed with a 1-day delay, for some reason. No idea why his role didn't show up though.
my god scumslip againfartownik wrote:
It's obvious Town should be careful, it's obvious the night is a dangerous time.
oh look these alignments got delayed. mb that's what he was talking about
vote: fartownik scumslip and flip flopping on D1
HoS: DakeDekaane for not really doing much. seems to match what he did as mafia, mb I'm just biased cause every game we've played together he was mafia
BRBP and Royston are town for me. rEdo would be leaning scum but he claimed dayviginb4 mafia dayvig
HoS: DakeDekaane for not really doing much. seems to match what he did as mafia, mb I'm just biased cause every game we've played together he was mafia
BRBP and Royston are town for me. rEdo would be leaning scum but he claimed dayvig
also
called so hard. too bad we don't yet know what alignment he even was
Raging Bull wrote:
Damnit I bet you're vig now.
WHATrEdo wrote:
Claim: Day Vigilante
called so hard. too bad we don't yet know what alignment he even was
Um, I'm not sure I should say. I dunno if it would benefit town or scum more if I said who I targeted. Although I will say I didn't No Action last nightDakeDekaane wrote:
Royston, your action this night?
@pieguy that's why I claimed btwDakeDekaane wrote:
You just want to put the votes out from you but don't give any more hints about why should we not vote you.Royston wrote:
So, we're just gonna wait out until the mislynch, are we.
As for fart:
fartownik wrote:
Also, I find those Royston votes pretty scummy.
He definitely seemed pretty sure I was town early on in the game. I mean, he's right, but keep in mind these posts were made before I claimed etc. and he didn't really explain why he thought I was town, just saying that scum was on my wagon.fartownik wrote:
Royston has a lot of silly votes on himself of people I consider scummy, I'm highly against lynching him.
I'm not really sure I agree with the "scumslips" you pointed out, probably because the same thing was used against me in the tooooohu game and I can't really say it's a strong argument
I'm not really sure I agree with the "scumslips" you pointed out, probably because the same thing was used against me in the tooooohu game and I can't really say it's a strong argumentthe one about Tanz's kill being "delayed" when it was N1 and he flipped immediately is the main one
I fail to see how he'd think that if he was town @_@
Oh, right
Well, his role was given on flip, but his alignment wasn't.
Well, his role was given on flip, but his alignment wasn't.
This was on page 35, at the beginning of N2LadySuburu wrote:
Oh, I should mention that the speedy reviver was town. That was supposed to be included in the day-end up above.
in Stacking the Deck it was the opposite, I was a townie and he was a vig, too bad I wasn't the one to shoot him this time though x)pieguy1372 wrote:
Raging Bull wrote:
Damnit I bet you're vig now.WHATrEdo wrote:
Claim: Day Vigilante
I still think it's Royston, but it was just basing on that "???" guy stuff, so it's not that relevant on a second thought. I'll reread this whole thread once I'm home (that is in like 8 hours).DakeDekaane wrote:
anyone who would you target rEdo?
Sorry pieguy, but what the fuck are you talking about.
The post on page 8 was written when we knew nothing about "???", there was literally no information but the fact that we're able to vote it. When I was writing the post on page 12 we had 2 more hints from LS with that "Hardenbergia" thing which I thought was Serial Killer in the beginning, that's why I threw in a brief idea of lynching it, but later changed my mind after discussion, which you didn't bring up here too. I thought the hints mattered somehow at that moment, I don't now. Thoughts change throughout the game - especially in one like this.
First quote - p/2534469
Is speedy reviver an alignment? IS SPEEDY REVIVER AN ALIGNMENT? IS SPEEDY REVIVER A FUCKING ALIGNMENT?
Second one - p/2521895
Okay, so you missed this hint I suppose? Do you even read this thread or pretend to be doing so?
Your 'arguments' to vote me are fucking silly. You manipulate the quotes by bringing up things out of context, leaving important information such as I mentioned above.
The first post is on page 12. The second one is on page 8. Why the fuck would you switch their order in your post? It's an obvious manipulation from you.pieguy wrote:
fartownik wrote:
Okay, so if you're not lying and all the hints are important - we should probably lynch The 15 Person, unless you just said that so we do it without hesitation.flip flop?fartownik wrote:
I don't really see a point in voting for "???" right now, we know nothing about it. It really might flip anything, even Jester and then we would probably lose the game because we lynched it ;o It really makes no sense to discuss it right now, everyone that votes him (especially for no reason, just like kook did) pings for scum.
The post on page 8 was written when we knew nothing about "???", there was literally no information but the fact that we're able to vote it. When I was writing the post on page 12 we had 2 more hints from LS with that "Hardenbergia" thing which I thought was Serial Killer in the beginning, that's why I threw in a brief idea of lynching it, but later changed my mind after discussion, which you didn't bring up here too. I thought the hints mattered somehow at that moment, I don't now. Thoughts change throughout the game - especially in one like this.
XDpieguy wrote:
wait, what? Tanz's alignment was revealed, he was a speedy reviver, whatever that isfartownik wrote:
I actually thought the kill on Tanz was a delay from scum, but Blue Yoshi's alignment was not revealed either, and that's from a lynch. Perhaps all the alignments are revealed with a 1-day delay, for some reason. No idea why his role didn't show up though.my god scumslip againfartownik wrote:
It's obvious Town should be careful, it's obvious the night is a dangerous time.
First quote - p/2534469
Is speedy reviver an alignment? IS SPEEDY REVIVER AN ALIGNMENT? IS SPEEDY REVIVER A FUCKING ALIGNMENT?
Second one - p/2521895
Okay, so you missed this hint I suppose? Do you even read this thread or pretend to be doing so?
Your 'arguments' to vote me are fucking silly. You manipulate the quotes by bringing up things out of context, leaving important information such as I mentioned above.
The post on page 8 was written when we knew nothing about "???", there was literally no information but the fact that we're able to vote it. When I was writing the post on page 12 we had 2 more hints from LS with that "Hardenbergia" thing which I thought was Serial Killer in the beginning, that's why I threw in a brief idea of lynching it, but later changed my mind after discussion, which you didn't bring up here too. I thought the hints mattered somehow at that moment, I don't now. Thoughts change throughout the game - especially in one like this.order switching doesn't matter cause the point is you had two different ideas. changing your mind again after that is another flip flop which is exactly what I meant
btw
Is speedy reviver an alignment? IS SPEEDY REVIVER AN ALIGNMENT? IS SPEEDY REVIVER A FUCKING ALIGNMENT?my miss actually, it looked so similar to the first flip and I didn't notice there was no alignment there LOL. that's what I get for trying to read the whole thread at once = = in that case, unvote
vote: DakeDekaane
uh, can i ask what made you change of opinion?pieguy in his long post wrote:
DakeDekaane seems town for me.
Going with meta is not the right way to go, you look too eager and the day has just started. You're also trying too hard in finding slips that actually they aren't, the "slip" you mentioned I meant to say "we the people who are town...".
Voting me for that reasons is a nice way to put you in my suspect list.
FoS: pieguy
Don't you mind if we share our reads? This goes to everybody.
fk this shit, just when I thought I had something I fk'ed up
you know something, by really weak PoE I get Dake, Tsukasa, and Rantai
3. pieguy <- town
5. DakeDekaane
6. Tsukasa
7. BRBP <- town
8. Royston <- town
10. kookookook
11. fartownik
12. rEdo <- if he's not town I'm flipping a table over on LS :>
13. Rantai
15. Lilac
fartownik I have to admit besides what I thought was a scumslip what you're doing doesn't match what I remember you doing as mafia. That just leaves 5 people. I'm assuming there's 4 mafia or 3 mafia/1 SK (there was only 1 death N1. Lilac being SK seems way too effing obvious to be the case but perhaps there was a successful protect or smth else, also seems it's not a vig cause probably they'd claim it)
I'm not sure how Dake even plays as town but his play this game has been similarly antitown just like, literally, all his other games I've seen (lol?).
I really wish I knew the alignments of those who died N2, especially NH's as it seemed like he could have been mafia. > <
kook isn't posting again. not sure if just new or if he's mafia mindgaming us
oh hey new post
I try to get some new information flowing and he says I'm "too eager". also I'll post whatever the hell I want if it means there's a chance I found a mafia
this is the exact same thing Caligno tried to do saying I was being "too opportunistic"
gogogo
you know something, by really weak PoE I get Dake, Tsukasa, and Rantai
3. pieguy <- town
5. DakeDekaane
6. Tsukasa
7. BRBP <- town
8. Royston <- town
10. kookookook
11. fartownik
12. rEdo <- if he's not town I'm flipping a table over on LS :>
13. Rantai
15. Lilac
fartownik I have to admit besides what I thought was a scumslip what you're doing doesn't match what I remember you doing as mafia. That just leaves 5 people. I'm assuming there's 4 mafia or 3 mafia/1 SK (there was only 1 death N1. Lilac being SK seems way too effing obvious to be the case but perhaps there was a successful protect or smth else, also seems it's not a vig cause probably they'd claim it)
I'm not sure how Dake even plays as town but his play this game has been similarly antitown just like, literally, all his other games I've seen (lol?).
I really wish I knew the alignments of those who died N2, especially NH's as it seemed like he could have been mafia. > <
kook isn't posting again. not sure if just new or if he's mafia mindgaming us
oh hey new post
that was near the middle of D1, but since then my ideas have changed. that post was literally me typing out every single thing I thought and every quote that I thought might seem relevant, so there's bound to be some contradictions in thereDakeDekaane wrote:
uh, can i ask what made you change of opinion?
Going with meta is not the right way to go, you look too eager and the day has just started. You're also trying too hard in finding slips that actually they aren't, the "slip" you mentioned I meant to say "we the people who are town...".yeah Dake is mafia
I try to get some new information flowing and he says I'm "too eager". also I'll post whatever the hell I want if it means there's a chance I found a mafia
this is the exact same thing Caligno tried to do saying I was being "too opportunistic"
gogogo
EBWOP cause I know you're going to ask:
this is the exact same thing Caligno tried to do saying I was being "too opportunistic"^ that happened in Lucid Dreamers, not this game
In what sense I'm playing anti-town?
Why do you think NH could be scum?
Also, I'm not Caligno, and I'm not scum. You're being nitpicky on every post and relying on meta too much, which is calling my attention now. I'm now interested on find if you're scum or not.
Also I found something interesting
And yes, your PoE is weak.
Why do you think NH could be scum?
Also, I'm not Caligno, and I'm not scum. You're being nitpicky on every post and relying on meta too much, which is calling my attention now. I'm now interested on find if you're scum or not.
Also I found something interesting
I don't think I missed it, but you didn't say why when BRBP asked.pieguy wrote:
also Lilac is town
And yes, your PoE is weak.
In what sense I'm playing anti-town?you really haven't done anything the whole game, while still posting
also meta is valid reasoning. you're just trying to say it's not cause you know I'm right
Why do you think NH could be scum?gut feeling. Caligno seemed weird but he always seems weird
I don't think I missed it, but you didn't say why when BRBP asked.wanna bet
You're being nitpicky on every post and relying on meta too much, which is calling my attention now. I'm now interested on find if you're scum or not.so starting to analyze stuff more in-depth to figure stuff out is suspicious. ok
btw, if you're interested in finding out if I'm scum or not, why not try to figure it out yourself. that's exactly what I mean when I say you haven't done anything
And yes, your PoE is weak.I'm gonna quote Two hope you don't mind
Two wrote:
and yet it's more compelling than anything you have or will post this game
beautifully illustrating my point
so we're sharing thoughts? okay, let's get this going.
Yuno's case didn't give us any hints in hunting scum, it's pretty much what Rantai said - it was pretty much voting somebody that hadn't anything to say, thus drawing attention to himself as scum, but people who joined the wagon are either potential scum that looked for an easy no-suspicious lynch, or players that just wanted the game to go further (such as me).
pieguy looked like he's completely ignored that whole "let's hunt 15th person" wagon and actually searched for potential scum in people which were speculating the setup too much, so I'd say he's town to me.
Dake's posts have started to ping me pretty hard. he hasn't posted much after the Yuno's case being solved, but I guess that's due to mindfuck that occured, I had pretty much the same feeling. however after that, he just went for Tsukasa who was pretty much inactive, which would be supposed to give us a town-read, and that's the case in my opinion. the fact that he started to defend himself so hardly against pieguy's speculations by immediate turn of the scumlean to him by >Voting me for that reasons is a nice way to put you in my suspect list kinda proved that, but I'd like to wait with my shoot/vote. also, he's never responded to Royston's p/2536772, which could've been an uncomfortable question.
Tsukasa... yeah, can't say much due to inactivity.
BRBP is town.
I've went too deep into Royston due to his idea of killing Hardenbergia, which on a second thought wasn't in place. actually since Lilac hasn't got any post restrictions of any kind and he hasn't been to much in this game, I'd say he's leaning town right now.
kook3 hasn't really done anything this game, not sure if he's even into this game... I could even shoot him right away, but I guess we've got a safer person for that.
fartownik has been speculating the 15th person a lot which I blatantly sheeped to cause it seemed as a right thing to do in order to get the game going, but except for that he just hunted the people that weren't active this game, as if looking for an easy lynch. could be either scum or a vivid scum-hunter, so I'd say he's giving me a null read.
I are scum
) Shoot: rEdo
Rantai hasn't really said past the Hardenbergia case, and just picked up kook and Yuno as his scapegoats. there must some more of scum (I'd say 3), so there's a high possibility that he's one.
and yeah... Lilac. he's been introduced D2, and since then he barely said anything. not sure how should I read that.
alright, I think that should do.
FoS: DakeDekaane, Tsukasa, kookookook, Rantai, Lilac
I'M GOING TO SHOOT DAKE TODAY, IN THE NEXT HOURS I WANNA HEAR WHO'S OKAY WITH THAT.
Royston wrote:
I bet the 15th player is LadySuburu in disguise
I kind of giggledLilac wrote:
Vote: LadySuburu
LEAP OF FAITH.
Yuno's case didn't give us any hints in hunting scum, it's pretty much what Rantai said - it was pretty much voting somebody that hadn't anything to say, thus drawing attention to himself as scum, but people who joined the wagon are either potential scum that looked for an easy no-suspicious lynch, or players that just wanted the game to go further (such as me).
pieguy looked like he's completely ignored that whole "let's hunt 15th person" wagon and actually searched for potential scum in people which were speculating the setup too much, so I'd say he's town to me.
Dake's posts have started to ping me pretty hard. he hasn't posted much after the Yuno's case being solved, but I guess that's due to mindfuck that occured, I had pretty much the same feeling. however after that, he just went for Tsukasa who was pretty much inactive, which would be supposed to give us a town-read, and that's the case in my opinion. the fact that he started to defend himself so hardly against pieguy's speculations by immediate turn of the scumlean to him by >Voting me for that reasons is a nice way to put you in my suspect list kinda proved that, but I'd like to wait with my shoot/vote. also, he's never responded to Royston's p/2536772, which could've been an uncomfortable question.
Tsukasa... yeah, can't say much due to inactivity.
BRBP is town.
I've went too deep into Royston due to his idea of killing Hardenbergia, which on a second thought wasn't in place. actually since Lilac hasn't got any post restrictions of any kind and he hasn't been to much in this game, I'd say he's leaning town right now.
kook3 hasn't really done anything this game, not sure if he's even into this game... I could even shoot him right away, but I guess we've got a safer person for that.
fartownik has been speculating the 15th person a lot which I blatantly sheeped to cause it seemed as a right thing to do in order to get the game going, but except for that he just hunted the people that weren't active this game, as if looking for an easy lynch. could be either scum or a vivid scum-hunter, so I'd say he's giving me a null read.
I are scum
) Rantai hasn't really said past the Hardenbergia case, and just picked up kook and Yuno as his scapegoats. there must some more of scum (I'd say 3), so there's a high possibility that he's one.
and yeah... Lilac. he's been introduced D2, and since then he barely said anything. not sure how should I read that.
alright, I think that should do.
FoS: DakeDekaane, Tsukasa, kookookook, Rantai, Lilac
I'M GOING TO SHOOT DAKE TODAY, IN THE NEXT HOURS I WANNA HEAR WHO'S OKAY WITH THAT.
Rantai hasn't really said past the Hardenbergia case, and just picked up kook and Yuno as his scapegoats. there must some more of scum (I'd say 3), so there's a high possibility that he's one.So. You missed me following leads on DD (who is still my strongest scumspect due to reasons tendered)? I guess that clearly means Kook and Yuno are my scapegoats (sarcasm). Actually I don't even know where you got that idea from, care to elaborate?
This gross omission of facts looks extremely rushed and I'm beginning to think you've thrown out opinions just to look like you're "analysing".
I'm still heavily concerned that Lilac is a possible 3rd party/mafia. Given the general inactivity and the fact that a 2nd kill suddenly turned up on the night after his arrival. Actually if I got back to the first day, I'm beginning to think cult that can shoot (is that what you call a cultafia?). Might seem farfetched but LS makes me believe anything at this stage. Unsure at this point.
Kook and Tsukasa are dead null.
I'm going to lean towards pieguy town. His general activity and pressure and hasn't actually contradicted himself as far as I can tell give me that vibe.
BRBP seems to be going off in random tangents but his quick debunking of fart's theory gives me a town lean, lessening any misguidance that may have happened. The rest of his posts, again, are somewhat erratic and null.
rEdo - Not sure if I actually believe your dayvig claim, if Lilac isn't anti-town then your claim seems to be quite a coincidence. But if you are, I'm up for a DD or Lilac shoot. Don't do it now though, I want to see what they have to say first.
I'm leaning slightly scum for fart due to early remarks (harder hints gave off a very unsettling feeling).
yes, I indeed saw you suspecting DD and I wanted you to mention it here - you get a passing mark. however, that doesn't change the fact that you were quite suspecting kook for no particular reason (p/2520095/), and yes, I exaggerated about Yuno, sorry for that. just wanted to see your reaction~Rantai wrote:
So. You missed me following leads on DD (who is still my strongest scumspect due to reasons tendered)? I guess that clearly means Kook and Yuno are my scapegoats (sarcasm). Actually I don't even know where you got that idea from, care to elaborate?
This gross omission of facts looks extremely rushed and I'm beginning to think you've thrown out opinions just to look like you're "analysing".
oh and yes, I won't hide that this post was written in quite a hurry.
My remark about Kook was saying exactly the opposite.
When I say "feels too easy" then that basically means that something doesn't seem right.
You know the line; this is going well... too well. Something like that.
When I say "feels too easy" then that basically means that something doesn't seem right.
You know the line; this is going well... too well. Something like that.
oh, right, overlooked that one. I should read stuff thoroughly and with more patience, sorry :v
anyway, share your reads, guys. especially you, Lilac.
anyway, share your reads, guys. especially you, Lilac.
I don't know what V/LA means (Visiting Los Angeles? probably not) but I wouldn't expect a quick responseLilac wrote:
V/LA until the 11th. I need to not play mafia so I can actually focus on Uni.
Thanks.
he did actually p/2540861rEdo wrote:
he's never responded to Royston's p/2536772, which could've been an uncomfortable question.
I'll post my reads tomorrow, feeling sleepy
rEdo, don't waste your vig-shot on me, as nothing will change if you do. I suggest you to save your shot until the last hours of this day, when things can become clearer instead going for a rushed decision.
And as I was the one that suggested it, my reads:
Tsukasa -> town/scum depeding on NH's role flip, if any.
rEdo -> if the claim is true -> town
Royston -> if the claim is true -> likely town
BRBP -> leaning town?
pieguy -> his thoughts about NH doesn't convince me that much, he could be mafia/scum/even a third party, so I'm giving a null read for now.
kook, farto, Lilac and Rantai -> null, so scum should be in this group.
@Royston, if you motivate someone, he'll have the extra action the same night, or the next one?
And as I was the one that suggested it, my reads:
Tsukasa -> town/scum depeding on NH's role flip, if any.
rEdo -> if the claim is true -> town
Royston -> if the claim is true -> likely town
BRBP -> leaning town?
pieguy -> his thoughts about NH doesn't convince me that much, he could be mafia/scum/even a third party, so I'm giving a null read for now.
kook, farto, Lilac and Rantai -> null, so scum should be in this group.
@Royston, if you motivate someone, he'll have the extra action the same night, or the next one?
that's what I'm going to do, I just claimed it to force people to talk.DakeDekaane wrote:
rEdo, don't waste your vig-shot on me, as nothing will change if you do. I suggest you to save your shot until the last hours of this day, when things can become clearer instead going for a rushed decision.
assuming 4 mafia and the extra kill was just a vig shot or w/e, we can shoot you and not get penalized (in fact it's better cause dayvig kill > mafia kill) cause it'll make the parity correct. how does that make you feel :>DakeDekaane wrote:
rEdo, don't waste your vig-shot on me, as nothing will change if you do. I suggest you to save your shot until the last hours of this day, when things can become clearer instead going for a rushed decision.
but knowing LS and what's happened so far, I'm almost certain there's a SK. there better not be 4 mafia and a SK
3. Tsukasa
6. kookookook
7. fartownik
10. Lilac
^ post your reads plz
Dake didn't even pressure me more when I even gave him an opportunity. if he really wanted to scumhunt I would expect he'd say something more kthx
I'm fine with you shooting him rEdo, but wait a bit longer plz.
also I really want Lilac to roleclaim on second thought. I can't fking get the obvious possibility that Lilac is SK out of my head even if it's too basic for LS
Actually speaking of Royston, do we have any proof he is actually a motivator?
Seems odd he made the claim, hasn't died and as far as I can tell no one has received a motivation. Before anyone gets antsy about fishing, we are getting precariously close to ly-lo/my-lo if we are on the worst case scenario (given 15 initially 3-4 scum sounds about right, given 10 alive and assuming no scum have died we're at 3-7 or 4-6). Any confirmation is good information at this stage.
Seems odd he made the claim, hasn't died and as far as I can tell no one has received a motivation. Before anyone gets antsy about fishing, we are getting precariously close to ly-lo/my-lo if we are on the worst case scenario (given 15 initially 3-4 scum sounds about right, given 10 alive and assuming no scum have died we're at 3-7 or 4-6). Any confirmation is good information at this stage.
yeah that's a good point
whoever was motivated by Royston plz say so
not sure if it's a good idea if this person claims the exact effects or not, but really we need everything we can get right now
whoever was motivated by Royston plz say so
not sure if it's a good idea if this person claims the exact effects or not, but really we need everything we can get right now
No. The person was motivated by me, don't say anything, please.
As for who I'm motivated (uhur geddit) to vote for, not a whole lot has changed. I'm still wary of Lilac. Dake too (yes for the same reason I stated when I voted him back in D1) kookookook for inactivity ( he should be unsilenced now?) and fartownik to some extent.
...Well, that's like half the remaining players, so I'm evidently wrong somewhere.
I asked the mod about it. The same night.DakeDekaane wrote:
@Royston, if you motivate someone, he'll have the extra action the same night, or the next one?
As for who I'm motivated (uhur geddit) to vote for, not a whole lot has changed. I'm still wary of Lilac. Dake too (yes for the same reason I stated when I voted him back in D1) kookookook for inactivity ( he should be unsilenced now?) and fartownik to some extent.
...Well, that's like half the remaining players, so I'm evidently wrong somewhere.
can you elaborate why plzRoyston wrote:
No. The person was motivated by me, don't say anything, please.
wow
at least tell us what your idea was plz
at least tell us what your idea was plz
wat
Phtvapchalkhfvb,hwplnbf.hFvb!Dofhtbzahfvbhkvhaopzhavhtl? 
If you decode this before others do don't reveal the message.
If you decode this before others do don't reveal the message.
Royston I don't see how that's beneficial to town
worst case scenario only mafia bothers decoding it which I assume is the opposite of what you want to do. even if everyone decodes it, it's the same scenario as if you just post it except everyone has to use more effort = =
worst case scenario only mafia bothers decoding it which I assume is the opposite of what you want to do. even if everyone decodes it, it's the same scenario as if you just post it except everyone has to use more effort = =
if nobody posts the decoded message soon and you don't let me know if you've decoded it then I'll just post it anyway, that's the worst case scenario; no big problem. I figured I may as well have a go on the small chance that you're able to decode it and no one else does as that would be beneficial to town
pls post more everyone
pls post more everyone
Okay okay, I'm here. Sorry for the inactivity, reviewing almost the whole thread again wasn't the most appealing thing to do.
Let's begin from people I think are Town at the moment.
rEdo - if his claim is truthful (and I think it is) then he will be most likely confirmed Town, though an idea of a scum Dayvig in such game wouldn't be out of consideration, but I don't want to believe it. We should use it at the end of the day, when we have a solid candidate for the lynch. By the way, I was thinking about the setup after rEdo's claim and recalled Tanz's Speedy Reviver role. It was most likely a Day Reviver, put in the game for a Day Kill + Day Revive combo. Just a random thought.
Tsukasa - His behavior was out of meta for the whole game and I thought it's scummy, but it seems like it was simply out of inactivity (lack of time). If NH flips Town Cop then he will be confirmed Town in my eyes, so I guess we should resist from lynching him until tomorrow morning.
Above are more or less confirmed Town for me. Now the scum-leaning and null cases.
I will begin from Royston's code from the previous page. I actually managed to decipher it and the outcome was pretty funny.
Let's sum this up. pieguy pushes Royston to reveal his night target, Royston claims Motivating pieguy during the night. This situation is at least odd and I would like both to speak before I say anything important on the case, though it seems like one of you is lying.
Next scum-leaning is still kookx3. If he had no time to play the game he would ask for a replacement as I asked him, or like Tsukasa did. The whole game he's been lurking and posting unimportant things, nothing seemed productive in his play. The newbie card doesn't work here anymore.
Lilac is still an SK in my eyes. It would explain an additional kill the night he joined the game, and simply fits my interpretation of this game's intention. His ISO is really, really empty. Looks like nothing more than filler posts.
About the rest, I simply don't know. They're null for me and I can't seem to find a way to set even a brief lean-read on them. Results of neglecting the game, sorry for that.
I hope this helps however, especially the code part.
Let's begin from people I think are Town at the moment.
rEdo - if his claim is truthful (and I think it is) then he will be most likely confirmed Town, though an idea of a scum Dayvig in such game wouldn't be out of consideration, but I don't want to believe it. We should use it at the end of the day, when we have a solid candidate for the lynch. By the way, I was thinking about the setup after rEdo's claim and recalled Tanz's Speedy Reviver role. It was most likely a Day Reviver, put in the game for a Day Kill + Day Revive combo. Just a random thought.
Tsukasa - His behavior was out of meta for the whole game and I thought it's scummy, but it seems like it was simply out of inactivity (lack of time). If NH flips Town Cop then he will be confirmed Town in my eyes, so I guess we should resist from lynching him until tomorrow morning.
Above are more or less confirmed Town for me. Now the scum-leaning and null cases.
I will begin from Royston's code from the previous page. I actually managed to decipher it and the outcome was pretty funny.
Phtvapchalkhfvb,hwplnbf.hFvb!Dofhtbzahfvbhkvhaopzhavhtl=
IAMOT IVATE DAYOU ,APIE GUY.A YOU!W HYAMU STAYO UADOA THISA TOAME=
I MOTIVATED YOU, PIEGUY. WHY MUST YOU DO THIS TO ME?It was a simple Caesar Code by the way.
Let's sum this up. pieguy pushes Royston to reveal his night target, Royston claims Motivating pieguy during the night. This situation is at least odd and I would like both to speak before I say anything important on the case, though it seems like one of you is lying.
Next scum-leaning is still kookx3. If he had no time to play the game he would ask for a replacement as I asked him, or like Tsukasa did. The whole game he's been lurking and posting unimportant things, nothing seemed productive in his play. The newbie card doesn't work here anymore.
Lilac is still an SK in my eyes. It would explain an additional kill the night he joined the game, and simply fits my interpretation of this game's intention. His ISO is really, really empty. Looks like nothing more than filler posts.
About the rest, I simply don't know. They're null for me and I can't seem to find a way to set even a brief lean-read on them. Results of neglecting the game, sorry for that.
I hope this helps however, especially the code part.
fartownik wrote:
Lilac is still an SK in my eyes. It would explain an additional kill the night he joined the game, and simply fits my interpretation of this game's intention.
I think you're both forgetting about the doctor who got lynched.pieguy1372 wrote:
I can't fking get the obvious possibility that Lilac is SK out of my head even if it's too basic for LS
Regardless, Blue Yoshi got lynched D2 with only one vote by RB. No one could uniformly decide on a lynch and this is what we're getting. Accusations without firepower by a ton of people which makes scum easier to get away with doing little to seem town.
It's culling without conviction. Weaksauce.
I would elaborate more if I wasn't switching back and forth from work and this. I am V/LA for a reason.
It's culling without conviction. Weaksauce.
I would elaborate more if I wasn't switching back and forth from work and this. I am V/LA for a reason.
wait, what Lilac? Blue Yoshi shouldn't have been lynched. That's the thing. I calculated the votes and at the end of D2 they were:
Tsukasa (2): DakeDekaane, kookookook
Blue Yoshi (1): Raging Bull
kookookook(1): fartownik
rEdo(1): pieguy1372
Lilac(1): Royston
fartownik(1): Lilac
DakeDekaane(1): Rantai
Royston(1): rEdo
@fart: There's two possibilites from my perspective.
a) pieguy is playing dumb
or b) he didn't get the message for whatever reason (target was switched to someone else or I was roleblocked)
I'm leaning towards b) at the moment, if only because I don't see a reason for scum to lie about being motivated or not, since I'm not a cop/gunsmith or something that could incriminate them
Tsukasa (2): DakeDekaane, kookookook
Blue Yoshi (1): Raging Bull
kookookook(1): fartownik
rEdo(1): pieguy1372
Lilac(1): Royston
fartownik(1): Lilac
DakeDekaane(1): Rantai
Royston(1): rEdo
@fart: There's two possibilites from my perspective.
a) pieguy is playing dumb
or b) he didn't get the message for whatever reason (target was switched to someone else or I was roleblocked)
I'm leaning towards b) at the moment, if only because I don't see a reason for scum to lie about being motivated or not, since I'm not a cop/gunsmith or something that could incriminate them
Well. I suggest you scrutinize either the mod or Tsukasa then.
Cause one or both of them have some explaining to do.
Cause one or both of them have some explaining to do.
So wait what?
As far as I can remember motivations usually have messages for the receiver. Even if he didn't receive one, I'd assume that he at least got some sort of noticeable upgrade to whatever his role is. Only pieguy can tell us if he actually got anything I guess.
And oh great so now we have some sort of vote manipulation around too?
As far as I can remember motivations usually have messages for the receiver. Even if he didn't receive one, I'd assume that he at least got some sort of noticeable upgrade to whatever his role is. Only pieguy can tell us if he actually got anything I guess.
And oh great so now we have some sort of vote manipulation around too?
I didn't get a PM saying I got motivated
I checked with LS first to make sure I'd get a PM immediately (cause it might have been start of N4 instead) and I should have received one immediately 0.0
IMO most likely thing is that mafia roleblocked you just cause you were the only claimed PR. whoever fked with the votes needs to claim immediately though
I checked with LS first to make sure I'd get a PM immediately (cause it might have been start of N4 instead) and I should have received one immediately 0.0
IMO most likely thing is that mafia roleblocked you just cause you were the only claimed PR. whoever fked with the votes needs to claim immediately though
Yeah, I sent it very early on in the night. So it's immediate? Interesting. So if I was roleblocked, that also means the person who roleblocked me was active around the time where night begun. Hmm...
Apologies for the weirdness by the way, freaked out when you of all people asked the person who gof motivated to reveal themselves.
Apologies for the weirdness by the way, freaked out when you of all people asked the person who gof motivated to reveal themselves.
I assume "immediately" meant at the end of N3 because it's impossible to know for sure if the motivation will work when you submit the action
Did you try to motivate someone every night Royston?
I believe Dake asked this earlier, but I submitted "No Action" the first night. So last night was the first time I tried targeting someone.Rantai wrote:
Did you try to motivate someone every night Royston?
Oh. I'm unfamiliar with how this kind of thing works...pieguy1372 wrote:
I assume "immediately" meant at the end of N3 because it's impossible to know for sure if the motivation will work when you submit the action
mafia would have to be really ballsy or insane to claim they did nothing n1, then targeted someone n2 with an action which they knew wasn't true and then claim they got roleblocked. and then say they don't have a wincon in their PM on top of that
1. pieguy <- town
5. Royston <- town
8. rEdo <- town
2. DakeDekaane
3. Tsukasa
4. BRBP
6. kookookook
7. fartownik
9. Rantai
10. Lilac
^ just like this, we already have a >50% chance to lynch scum or SK, kthx
14 possible choices, 3 ~ 4 of which won't be NKed in the first place, and one that may or may not be possible to target depending on mod
also note how he just resorts to "doctor" and doesn't mention about other possibilities. like he planned to say it all along, rather than not knowing what might have happened
also, if anyone is responsible for Tsukasa not getting lynched D2, roleclaim now or die
1. pieguy <- town
5. Royston <- town
8. rEdo <- town
2. DakeDekaane
3. Tsukasa
4. BRBP
6. kookookook
7. fartownik
9. Rantai
10. Lilac
^ just like this, we already have a >50% chance to lynch scum or SK, kthx
I think you're both forgetting about the doctor who got lynched.do you know how hard it even is to get a successful protect N1
14 possible choices, 3 ~ 4 of which won't be NKed in the first place, and one that may or may not be possible to target depending on mod
also note how he just resorts to "doctor" and doesn't mention about other possibilities. like he planned to say it all along, rather than not knowing what might have happened
also, if anyone is responsible for Tsukasa not getting lynched D2, roleclaim now or die
you know what, I'm willing to bet my >50% chance on Lilac just based on what I mentioned in that post
but imo at this point it's not beneficial for town to lynch SK as then we get a 3-5 D4. I want SK to shoot scum first <3 cause that way it'll be 2-4-1 heading into D4.
scum might even shoot SK giving us a chance to get 2-5 or 3-4. (3-4 is just the same as 3-5 anyway cause town must NL)
but imo at this point it's not beneficial for town to lynch SK as then we get a 3-5 D4. I want SK to shoot scum first <3 cause that way it'll be 2-4-1 heading into D4.
scum might even shoot SK giving us a chance to get 2-5 or 3-4. (3-4 is just the same as 3-5 anyway cause town must NL)
Well that's assuming that Lilac is actually a Serial Killer, haha. But hopefully the pattern continues and we get to see the alignment of NoHItter and RB to give us some clues.
If not Lilac, who out of
At the moment my feeling on most likely to least likely to be scum is kook > Dake > Tsukasa > fart > Rantai > BRBP, but I'm willing to back you up on whoever you think.
If not Lilac, who out of
2. DakeDekaanewould be our best option do you think?
3. Tsukasa
4. BRBP
6. kookookook
7. fartownik
9. Rantai
At the moment my feeling on most likely to least likely to be scum is kook > Dake > Tsukasa > fart > Rantai > BRBP, but I'm willing to back you up on whoever you think.
pieguy1372 wrote:
3. pieguy <- town
lolpieguy1372 wrote:
1. pieguy <- town
Also basing yourself in probabilities, ew
Have we confirmed the SK? pretty much likely but not 100%, I've also thought about a PGO. If there's a SK, he'd likely shoot the "most townie", and mafia will do the same.
Can mafia kill be motivated? inb4 no.
If you read carefully the thread, you'll find something interesting, Lilac has a very low chance of being SK (if any), as your theories are wrong.
DakeDekaane wrote:
Have we confirmed the SK? pretty much likely but not 100%
So what you're saying is that you think there's a SK but it's not Lilac? Also, as for the something interesting, what are you referring to exactly?DakeDekaane wrote:
If you read carefully the thread, you'll find something interesting, Lilac has a very low chance of being SK (if any), as your theories are wrong.
I have to disagree with you there, on the SK part at least.DakeDekaane wrote:
I've also thought about a PGO. If there's a SK, he'd likely shoot the "most townie", and mafia will do the same.
PGO is also a possibility I suppose, unless it turns out NoHItter/RB didn't have any night actions.
Why are people purposely trying to be so cryptic?DakeDekaane wrote:
If you read carefully the thread, you'll find something interesting, Lilac has a very low chance of being SK (if any), as your theories are wrong.
Also why would an SK shoot the most townie people? Once the town are dead the mafia can determine exactly who is the SK.
Dake it's not optimal for SK to shoot the most pro-town player, it's optimal for SK to shoot mafia. each faction who can kill wants to get rid of each other. besides if all the town is gone it ends up being n mafia - 1 SK and SK loses anyway. besides the parity right now is incorrect, so having an extra kill won't hurt us much
Dake > Rantai > Tsukasa = fartownik = kook3 > BRBP.Royston wrote:
If not Lilac, who out of [quote] would be our best option do you think?
if the hypothesis of
not sure if that's already been mentioned, but
Mod: requesting a replacement for kookookook and Tsukasa.
Topic Starter
rEdo wrote:
Mod: requesting a replacement for kookookook and Tsukasa.
Sephibro replaces Tsukasa (Was still searching for one.)
Looking for a replacement for kookookook.
What I'm saying is that Lilac wasn't introduced in D2, like many of you think, he was playing since D1, LS just messed up the players list, just go to the RVS stage in D1. why he didn't post? I really have no idea.
rEdo, shoot pieguy/Rantai, then you can lynch me if you still want to. Don't shoot Tsukasa/Sephibro until we get the role flip for NH. Why pieguy? Is he considered town? how did he got towncred?; Why Rantai? Because is your other suspect besides Tsukasa and me, it's a null-read for me.
rEdo, shoot pieguy/Rantai, then you can lynch me if you still want to. Don't shoot Tsukasa/Sephibro until we get the role flip for NH. Why pieguy? Is he considered town? how did he got towncred?; Why Rantai? Because is your other suspect besides Tsukasa and me, it's a null-read for me.
So.. you both think I'm a good candidate because you have nothing to make a case on me.
Does anyone else see the problem with that?
Actually, given last night's results we don't have a guarantee that alignments will flip so DD specifically stating that he's fine dying but through a lynch leads me to believe that he may be the player with the vote manipulation, given that he can hide behind that wifom. That and he seems to be pushing a kill on pieguy who is sitting more town than scum (in my opinion at least) and trying to get the person who suspects him the most off his back.
Does anyone else see the problem with that?
Actually, given last night's results we don't have a guarantee that alignments will flip so DD specifically stating that he's fine dying but through a lynch leads me to believe that he may be the player with the vote manipulation, given that he can hide behind that wifom. That and he seems to be pushing a kill on pieguy who is sitting more town than scum (in my opinion at least) and trying to get the person who suspects him the most off his back.
i just finished reading those fucking 42 pages. be aware that if i fucking die this day or this night i will find and kill you all, irl. hello everybody
REPLACING TSUKASA
btw, these are my thoughts:
Most retarded D1 ever. I was 95% sure yuno was a jester from 4 or 5 pages before the end of the day. He felt the urge to be lynched, so he started telling bullshit, editing and deleting posts intentionally. I was 100% sure when LS gave him a "second chance" instead of an instant modkill, at that point i would have insisted for him to be modkilled, as it was clear as water that he was a jester.
To be honest, i would have tried to vote LS too this day
fartownik - i've been pretty sure you are scum since your first posts, they are too full of forced towny show-offs. and on D1 you naively voted yuno because it would have been easy to get other votes on him because of his weird behaviour (and a real scum would NEVER have such a behaviour)
rEdo - honestly i had the same exact impression about you, i had the feeling that you and farto were performing a pre-meditated strategy. Your claim surprised me, but you are still 50/50 to me until you demonstrate you really are vig
DakeDekaane - i have the feeling you are scum too
kookookook - i've suspected of him for his inactivity and his rough posts. btw almost every suspect is dissipated now, i'll write the reason if LS tells me i can
pieguy - i really think you are town, and you are playing a good match. If you are scum, you're playing an excellent match. the only dumb thing you did was voting for yuno on d1
Royston - town, just a bit noob
Rantai - i read a post of yours in the first pages that made me think you are a town, im gonna find it tomorrow. I'm not very sure btw
Lilac - i have a couple thoughts about him, i'll write them down tomorrow. i can't hide that the way he joined the game left me puzzled
BRBP - i have to read some of his posts better, more town than scum
i hope i didn't forget to mention anybody.
i think that voting one among farto and dake is the best thing we can do this day, in my opinion we have more than 70% chance of lynching a scum. telling this isn't probably a clever move by me, but if rEdo is actually vig that's not so stupid
Vote: fartownik
Mod: when's the deadline?
@everybody: please explain abbreviations the first time you use them, i'm new to forum mafia, it would help me very much Example: " [...] FoS (=Finger of Suspicion + brief explaination)"
TL;DR read that motherfucking post, i've read 42 pages. it's also 5 am and i'm not going to re-read it, i hope i didn't write anything too wrong
REPLACING TSUKASA
btw, these are my thoughts:
Most retarded D1 ever. I was 95% sure yuno was a jester from 4 or 5 pages before the end of the day. He felt the urge to be lynched, so he started telling bullshit, editing and deleting posts intentionally. I was 100% sure when LS gave him a "second chance" instead of an instant modkill, at that point i would have insisted for him to be modkilled, as it was clear as water that he was a jester.
To be honest, i would have tried to vote LS too this day
fartownik - i've been pretty sure you are scum since your first posts, they are too full of forced towny show-offs. and on D1 you naively voted yuno because it would have been easy to get other votes on him because of his weird behaviour (and a real scum would NEVER have such a behaviour)
rEdo - honestly i had the same exact impression about you, i had the feeling that you and farto were performing a pre-meditated strategy. Your claim surprised me, but you are still 50/50 to me until you demonstrate you really are vig
DakeDekaane - i have the feeling you are scum too
kookookook - i've suspected of him for his inactivity and his rough posts. btw almost every suspect is dissipated now, i'll write the reason if LS tells me i can
pieguy - i really think you are town, and you are playing a good match. If you are scum, you're playing an excellent match. the only dumb thing you did was voting for yuno on d1
Royston - town, just a bit noob
Rantai - i read a post of yours in the first pages that made me think you are a town, im gonna find it tomorrow. I'm not very sure btw
Lilac - i have a couple thoughts about him, i'll write them down tomorrow. i can't hide that the way he joined the game left me puzzled
BRBP - i have to read some of his posts better, more town than scum
i hope i didn't forget to mention anybody.
i think that voting one among farto and dake is the best thing we can do this day, in my opinion we have more than 70% chance of lynching a scum. telling this isn't probably a clever move by me, but if rEdo is actually vig that's not so stupid
Vote: fartownik
Mod: when's the deadline?
@everybody: please explain abbreviations the first time you use them, i'm new to forum mafia, it would help me very much
Example: " [...] FoS (=Finger of Suspicion + brief explaination)"TL;DR read that motherfucking post, i've read 42 pages. it's also 5 am and i'm not going to re-read it, i hope i didn't write anything too wrong
If he even was allowed to post, I'd say he didn't post as to not reveal his identity. For the sake of argument let's say Lilac was a SK and that he was able to kill N1. The one death N1 (I assume that's the point your making? Correct me if I'm wrong) doesn't really prove anything considering we had a doc (Blue Yoshi) on our sideDakeDekaane wrote:
What I'm saying is that Lilac wasn't introduced in D2, like many of you think, he was playing since D1, LS just messed up the players list, just go to the RVS stage in D1. why he didn't post? I really have no idea.
Royston - town, just a bit noobI'm trying here
Great. Another mystery to add to the pile...Sephibro wrote:
btw almost every suspect is dissipated now, i'll write the reason if LS tells me i can
Well, I consider him town from my position. Unless he's being really sneaky mafia and roleblocked me, and part of his plan was to ask for the person who got motivated to reveal themselves, knowing that there would be no-one...DakeDekaane wrote:
Why pieguy? Is he considered town? how did he got towncred?
...Actually, that almost sounds plausible. Um, I need to think about this some more...
Hey Rantai, I voted Tsukasa last day, and Blue Yoshi was lynched? Makes sense, I should be vote manipulator 
Sephibro, can you elaborate more about fartownik?
Maybe Yoshi wasn't lynched... have you thought about that?
Sephibro, can you elaborate more about fartownik?
Maybe Yoshi wasn't lynched... have you thought about that?
The concept of distancing is unfathomable!
Implying that Tsukasa is your scumbuddy, which is entirely possible seeing as he was afk the entire game.
Implying that Tsukasa is your scumbuddy, which is entirely possible seeing as he was afk the entire game.
Or you know, using it as a cover to lynch a known (to you) townie and keeping the inactive alive while having an easy vote scapegoat.
So sneaky.
So sneaky.
hi Sephibro =w=
2. even if it's "obvious", he could just be really bad mafia, so we practically have to policy lynch him
>he tries to question dayvig's ideas instead of pointing out better scumreads or defending himself
yeah DD is mafia gogogo
1. Jester is so uncommonly used and broken cheap that most people don't put oneSephibro wrote:
Most retarded D1 ever. I was 95% sure yuno was a jester from 4 or 5 pages before the end of the day. He felt the urge to be lynched, so he started telling bullshit, editing and deleting posts intentionally. I was 100% sure when LS gave him a "second chance" instead of an instant modkill, at that point i would have insisted for him to be modkilled, as it was clear as water that he was a jester.
2. even if it's "obvious", he could just be really bad mafia, so we practically have to policy lynch him
that's one hell of a shitty argumentDakeDekaane wrote:
Maybe Yoshi wasn't lynched... have you thought about that?
>dayvig wants to shoot himDakeDekaane wrote:
What I'm saying is that Lilac wasn't introduced in D2, like many of you think, he was playing since D1, LS just messed up the players list, just go to the RVS stage in D1. why he didn't post? I really have no idea.
rEdo, shoot pieguy/Rantai, then you can lynch me if you still want to. Don't shoot Tsukasa/Sephibro until we get the role flip for NH. Why pieguy? Is he considered town? how did he got towncred?; Why Rantai? Because is your other suspect besides Tsukasa and me, it's a null-read for me.
>he tries to question dayvig's ideas instead of pointing out better scumreads or defending himself
yeah DD is mafia gogogo
come on, from his behaviour was clear that he WANTED to be lynched, which is never a mafia-like behaviour, it's a jester's or a mad noob town's who wanted a PR and didn't get it. in both cases, it's in the interest of mafia and towns to keep him alive. but he already won so let's stop discussing about that, i just made an observation there.pieguy1372 wrote:
1. Jester is so uncommonly used and broken cheap that most people don't put one
2. even if it's "obvious", he could just be really bad mafia, so we practically have to policy lynch him
i need to know some things.pieguy1372 wrote:
>dayvig wants to shoot him
>he tries to question dayvig's ideas instead of pointing out better scumreads or defending himself
yeah DD is mafia gogogo
1. does dayvig shoot by writing it here in the forum, or does he pm the master?
2. i guess dayvig can shoot only once in the whole game, isn't it?
my plan is:
- rEdo shoots DD
- if he doesn't, we lynch him
- if he does, we lynch farto
gg 100% we get one scum, 60% we get two scums at once (because i'm not actually sure if both dd and farto are mafia)
by the way i didn't like your last sentence, typical mafia behaviour, you're still town to me but a bit closer to mafia now.
Tsukasa actually played a very good D1 as a town, he has just been afk for too much tume sadly.Rantai wrote:
The concept of distancing is unfathomable!
Implying that Tsukasa is your scumbuddy, which is entirely possible seeing as he was afk the entire game.
i've thought about that, and that's why i asked the point 1. about dayvig. by the way it would be completely senseless for a town to shoot one who's most likely town than scum, as he was in that moment. so i have to make some other questions:DakeDekaane wrote:
Hey Rantai, I voted Tsukasa last day, and Blue Yoshi was lynched? Makes sense, I should be vote manipulator
Sephibro, can you elaborate more about fartownik?
Maybe Yoshi wasn't lynched... have you thought about that?
1. is there a scum role who can shoot on days too?
2. is vote manipulator town or scum?
3. if he died from vote manipulation, it means that he had received enough votes before, and if i remember well, the votes Yoshi received weren't enough for him to get lynched
I'm still waiting for LS to answer my PM before i can tell why my suspects on kookookook were almost dissipated.
Btw, i don't like the fact that, when rEdo claimed to be a dayvig, nobody actually elaborated a proper town strategy as i just did - i can't clearly identify any of you as a 100% town, except for one.
Of course i have some more questions:
mod: can we both shoot and lynch in the same day? if we can't, it's stupid.
is there a role that can prevent someone to get killed during the night? if yes, i hope he wasn't the one who died the first night.
Of course i have some more questions:
mod: can we both shoot and lynch in the same day? if we can't, it's stupid.
is there a role that can prevent someone to get killed during the night? if yes, i hope he wasn't the one who died the first night.
Btw, i don't like the fact that, when rEdo claimed to be a dayvig, nobody actually elaborated a proper town strategy as i just did - i can't clearly identify any of you as a 100% town, except for one.I think everyone implicitly assumed rEdo would just shoot the scummiest person and then lynch the second, or lynch rEdo if he was lying. seems pretty intuitive already
by the way i didn't like your last sentence, typical mafia behaviour, you're still town to me but a bit closer to mafia now.I say stuff like that a lot. in fact I already said it before you replaced in
just wondering why you don't point it out there.i read 42 pages from 2:00 to 5:00 am x.x, i probably missed thatpieguy1372 wrote:
I say stuff like that a lot. in fact I already said it before you replaced in
who's "the second"? i guess it's farto, but it isn't clearly stated anywhere.pieguy1372 wrote:
I think everyone implicitly assumed rEdo would just shoot the scummiest person and then lynch the second, or lynch rEdo if he was lying. seems pretty intuitive already
it's always better to make a strategy public when it's possible to make it within 1 day and it goes 100% in favor of towns. unless you are scum, obv
My vote's still on farto, now we only need to see what will rEdo do, and listen to farto's objection if he has any.
ok i just discovered that Doctor is the role that protects people during nights, and he died already - then ok, it's kinda obvious that there's a SK and i think the main candidates to that role are Rantai and BRBP. It would be just silly if Liliac was the SK and there was no SK death the first night just because he wasn't playing, but we can't discard that chance.
pls answer all my questions so i can elaborate more hipothesys (did i write it correctly?)
pls answer all my questions so i can elaborate more hipothesys (did i write it correctly?)
who's "the second"?whoever town thinks is mafia after the first is lynched
(did i write it correctly?)hypothesis
I'm still adamant about some sort of cult (afia?) out there.
I do have my reasons to believing so, it's not just a baseless theory.
I do have my reasons to believing so, it's not just a baseless theory.
- does dayvig shoot by writing it here in the forum, or does he pm the master?
- i guess dayvig can shoot only once in the whole game, isn't it?
- is there a scum role who can shoot on days too?
- is vote manipulator town or scum?
for now, i need answers toi these question, if you have any pls tell me.
- i guess dayvig can shoot only once in the whole game, isn't it?
- is there a scum role who can shoot on days too?
- is vote manipulator town or scum?
for now, i need answers toi these question, if you have any pls tell me.
thankspieguy1372 wrote:
hypothesis
1. Depends on the host. They can go either way.
2. Usually we see 1-shot dayvigs but it's possible they can shoot multiple times if the host allows.
3. I haven't seen one before but considering this is an LS game, anything is possible
4. It can go both ways depending again on host
2. Usually we see 1-shot dayvigs but it's possible they can shoot multiple times if the host allows.
3. I haven't seen one before but considering this is an LS game, anything is possible
4. It can go both ways depending again on host
IMPORTANT: this is the post just before Yoshi's death. That could really be a vote manipulation, in that case, the vote manipulator is 100% scum, and if i remember well, DD claimed to be a vote manipulator (or was it someone else? i should take some notes next time).LadySuburu wrote:
Reality has shifted slightly.
It could have been the dayvig who can kill just sending a PM to the mod, but if the dayvig is town he would have had no reasons to do that, and the day wouldn't have ended in that case. And LS wouldn't have written "Reality has shifted slightly".
There's still the possibility of a mafia role who can shoot during the day. But it would be too strong so it needs limitations. which could be?
- only 1 bullet in the entire game?
- does he die the night after shooting? this is also possible because:
there were 2 deaths N2, while only 1 death N1, it could have been the doctor, but it could have been something like this too. But probably LS wouldn't have no reasons to write "Reality has shifted slightly" in this case too.LadySuburu wrote:
RB - ??? - Dissapeared N2
NoHItter - ??? - Dissapeared N2
-> I still think that SK is the most accredited hypothesis, but we can't discard any.
I'm sorry for not being active here, I will post up tomorrow morning since I'm fairly tired tonight.
tl;dr: prod dodge
tl;dr: prod dodge
Sephibro wrote:
- does dayvig shoot by writing it here in the forum, or does he pm the master? he has to write it here, which I will do now
- i guess dayvig can shoot only once in the whole game, isn't it? depends on the mod, but most usually once per game, just like a regular vigilante
- is there a scum role who can shoot on days too? it's pretty rarely seen, but I'm not one if that's what you're trying to imply :P
- is vote manipulator town or scum? can be either pro-town or pro-scum.
mind to elaborate?Rantai wrote:
I'm still adamant about some sort of cult (afia?) out there.
I do have my reasons to believing so, it's not just a baseless theory.
anyway, I guess the majority is now okay with that, especially these posts signalized me that we're off to go.
sounds like baloney, or he actually might have somethingDakeDekaane wrote:
rEdo, shoot pieguy/Rantai, then you can lynch me if you still want to.
and yeah, that's caught my attention myself. instead of trying to reason why he shouldn't be scum, he just simple-mindedly told me to shoot somebody else. I guess that should do.pieguy1372 wrote:
>dayvig wants to shoot him
>he tries to question dayvig's ideas instead of pointing out better scumreads or defending himself
Shoot: DakeDekaane
Mod: will we get the flip right away?
Geez.
rEdo, I told you to not waste your shot on me, everything will remain the same, anyways.
FoS: Rantai
Why pieguy is town for you?
Vote: pieguy
I got tired of this. You guys are blind.
@Sephibro: I didn't claim vote manipulator in any moment, but you have a point on LS's post.
rEdo, I told you to not waste your shot on me, everything will remain the same, anyways.
FoS: Rantai
Why pieguy is town for you?
What?Rantai wrote:
Or you know, using it as a cover to lynch a known (to you) townie and keeping the inactive alive while having an easy vote scapegoat.
So sneaky.
Vote: pieguy
The discredit post here is hard, you didn't elaborate on why it was a shitty argument, which imo it isn't, Tsukasa had 2 votes and Yoshi 1, that's what I brought that.pieguy1372 wrote:
that's one hell of a shitty argumentDakeDekaane wrote:
Maybe Yoshi wasn't lynched... have you thought about that?
So I should have pointed better scumreads to you say I was deflecting attention and so, you can still scumpainting me too? Sure.pieguy1372 wrote:
>dayvig wants to shoot himDakeDekaane wrote:
What I'm saying is that Lilac wasn't introduced in D2, like many of you think, he was playing since D1, LS just messed up the players list, just go to the RVS stage in D1. why he didn't post? I really have no idea.
rEdo, shoot pieguy/Rantai, then you can lynch me if you still want to. Don't shoot Tsukasa/Sephibro until we get the role flip for NH. Why pieguy? Is he considered town? how did he got towncred?; Why Rantai? Because is your other suspect besides Tsukasa and me, it's a null-read for me.
>he tries to question dayvig's ideas instead of pointing out better scumreads or defending himself
yeah DD is mafia gogogo
I got tired of this. You guys are blind.
@Sephibro: I didn't claim vote manipulator in any moment, but you have a point on LS's post.
Topic Starter
Let me get home, and then I'll update the thread based on happenings. ETA 20ish minutes.
Topic Starter
*rEdo turns towards Dake, firing a magical bolt at him. Dake is impaled by the bolt, and collapses...*rEdo wrote:
Shoot: DakeDekaane
*...But a magical glow surrounds Dake, and he stands back up again, unharmed.*
GM Announcement: We've noticed a problem with our PVP system, so we're shutting off PVP for repairs tonight. Please bear with us while we work on this problem.
Dake's revival means there's no lynch today.
Deadline for today is 24 hours from now. Deadline can be ended early by voting No Lynch, or extended once by 24 hours by voting Extend Deadline.
wow, things went better than expected. I did expect Dake to be town, so here I am to state my hypothesis that I came up with after certain people started to tell me to shoot him:
PIEGUY AND RANTAI HAVE A HIGH POSSIBILITY TO BE SCUM.
I had that suspicion right from the start when Rantai and pieguy were rather forcing the idea of me shooting Dake, which caught my eye, so I tagged along in their play with a gambit. here are my thoughts so far:
Vote: Rantai
PIEGUY AND RANTAI HAVE A HIGH POSSIBILITY TO BE SCUM.
I had that suspicion right from the start when Rantai and pieguy were rather forcing the idea of me shooting Dake, which caught my eye, so I tagged along in their play with a gambit. here are my thoughts so far:
- if Dake flips town, then pieguy and Rantai apparently were speculating on their daychat to push the wagon of DD being scum (that would also reason why Rantai started being so active yet again), shooting him, thus wasting my shot on a townie, and lynching somebody else afterwards - that's why I asked for a flip right after DD's death, but him surviving makes things even easier. he already said "nothing's gonna change" - that would mean he's a deathproof townie (nothing else comes to my mind, a deathproof goon sounds way too OP). not to mention that there's from none to little interaction between them in their posts, they're certainly avoiding that to happen.
- if Dake flips scum, then apparently pieguy wasn't bullshitting and he was really hunting for scum, thus rather leaning him to be town, however it's not the case this time.
Vote: Rantai
I think it's pieguy, Rantai and farto.
I do have a case for all 3 but...laziness. Give me a bit.
I do have a case for all 3 but...laziness. Give me a bit.
what makes you so sure Dake is town? knowing LS I wouldn't be surprised to see a 1-shot deathproof mafia or SK (more likely SK, cause SK by itself is so hard to win with > <, so it often comes with modifiers like bulletproof etc. that give better odds)
btw keep in mind I accused Dake before you did. I do agree it's weird how Rantai just followed us though
btw keep in mind I accused Dake before you did. I do agree it's weird how Rantai just followed us though
I figured it had to have been a lynch because it ended day, there weren't any other deaths that day, and it was at deadline IIRC (?).DakeDekaane wrote:
The discredit post here is hard, you didn't elaborate on why it was a shitty argument, which imo it isn't, Tsukasa had 2 votes and Yoshi 1, that's what I brought that.
if you really wanted to find out who the mafia was IMO you would have said more. Not doing something under the assumption that "I'll still scumpaint you anyway" makes no sense as town whatsoever. If you were town, you'd do it anyway, let me scumpaint you, and then scumhunt me by calling me out for scumpainting you. but nopeDakeDekaane wrote:
So I should have pointed better scumreads to you say I was deflecting attention and so, you can still scumpainting me too? Sure.
I got tired of this. You guys are blind.
i hope i misunderstood this.LadySuburu wrote:
rEdo wrote:
Dake's revival means there's no lynch today.
btw, what do we know so far:
- rEdo, Royston and Sephibro are town
- kookookook is most likely town (i think kookookook is town because if he was mafia LS would have used me to replaced him instead of Tsukasa)
- DakeDekaane is most likely SK, or town with PR
- pieguy, BRBP, fartownik, Rantai, Lilas: all mafia are probably in this group
now, let's come to the important things
how many are mafia? 3-4, most likely 3 i would say
already 5 people died, at least 4 of them were town (in case one among RB or NH were the SK, but it's just 8% chance). at 92%, 5 towns died. that's bad, we need to hurry
in order to hurry, we need the help of the SK to get rid of all the mafia asap - it's in SK's interest to kill mafia and now it's in the interest of mafia to kill the SK
DakeDekaane could have survived because he's a PR that allows him to survive lynch or he is a 1-shot bulletproof SK (most likely this one)
mod: can we lynch this turn then? and can i have a vote count of D2?
Hold on, rEdo. If you think that Dake was town why the hell did you shoot him under peer pressure? You could have shot one of the other guys who was
Also, I really do not like how pieguy is playing in this game.
Also, I really do not like how pieguy is playing in this game.
you anticipated me, i agree on this pointpieguy1372 wrote:
1-shot deathproof mafia or SK
pieguy1372 wrote:
if you really wanted to find out who the mafia was IMO you would have said more.
you looked very town-like on D2, you are looking always less town-like on D3. you had the urge to kill DakeDekaane without thinking much more upon it, and you didn't propose a pro town strategy as i was expectingpieguy1372 wrote:
I think everyone implicitly assumed rEdo would just shoot the scummiest person and then lynch the second, or lynch rEdo if he was lying. seems pretty intuitive already
I would like to hear more from Rantai, BRBP and Lilac, farto already said that he would tell his impressions this morning
At the moment i think BRBP is the one with the highest chance of being a town in the "potential mafia" group
Topic Starter
Dake's revival has stopped there from being a lynch Day 3.Sephibro wrote:
mod: can we lynch this turn then? and can i have a vote count of D2?
As for a Day 2 vote count, that's a pain and I said I wouldn't, but I guess I can.
At the end of the day, the official vote count looked like this:
Tsukasa (2) - Dake, kookookook
Yoshi (1) - RB
BRBP (1) - pieguy
kookookook (1) - farto
rEdo (1) - pieguy
Lilac (1) - Royston
farto (1) - Lilac
Dake (1) - Rantai
Royston (1) - rEdo
Nothing of note hidden here, go away.
no, you took Tsukasa's seat just because he has asked for replacement way earlier than kook. alignment has nothing to do with that.Sephibro wrote:
i think kookookook is town because if he was mafia LS would have used me to replaced him instead of Tsukasa
that's why I said it's a gambit - now at least I've confirmed some of my suspicions.Lilac wrote:
Hold on, rEdo. If you think that Dake was town why the hell did you shoot him under peer pressure?
gonna post more tomorrow, right now barely postng this x.x
wow I'm just abouf to post and then a bunch of other posts come in, can't be assed to change my post on phone
It seems pretty clear like we're not going to be able to lynch today. This is pretty terrible. Dake/rEdo, did either of you know this sort of thing would result in us not being able to lynch?
I still don't like how everyone is assuming there's a SK. For all I know, the second night kill could have been a vigilante, PGO etc. But I hope you're right, because we need a SK to kill some mafia otherwise we're probably fucked.
To reply to an earlier point, I'm not sure that 'reality has shifted' message has anything to do with the voting thing either, since the mod said that it wasn't related in the post after that. And I'm holding onto this dearly:
It seems pretty clear like we're not going to be able to lynch today. This is pretty terrible. Dake/rEdo, did either of you know this sort of thing would result in us not being able to lynch?
I still don't like how everyone is assuming there's a SK. For all I know, the second night kill could have been a vigilante, PGO etc. But I hope you're right, because we need a SK to kill some mafia otherwise we're probably fucked.
To reply to an earlier point, I'm not sure that 'reality has shifted' message has anything to do with the voting thing either, since the mod said that it wasn't related in the post after that. And I'm holding onto this dearly:
LadySuburu wrote:
However, I will not lie this game, as that's not this game's gimmick.
^pls don't forget this, it's my first time on forum mafiaSephibro wrote:
@everybody: please explain abbreviations the first time you use them, i'm new to forum mafia, it would help me very much
what's PGO?
btw i don't think that a vigilante would have done that move, unless he's completely retarded. if you are a vigilante you are town, and your interest is to protect town and kill mafia, not killing random.
If it's not a SK, probably RB or NH had a PR that causes to be killed if processing an action on the one who gets killed that night
But i still hope there's a SK because he has to kill some mafias during the night, or we'll be in trouble
Paranoid Gun Owner.
A role that kills anyone who tries to target it at night. However, this is very unlikely. I have some idea what's happening and to be honest, it's not looking good.
Umm, give me... a few hours, I need to get into the mood to play this and it's draining ever since. Forum mafia is killing me inside.
A role that kills anyone who tries to target it at night. However, this is very unlikely. I have some idea what's happening and to be honest, it's not looking good.
Umm, give me... a few hours, I need to get into the mood to play this and it's draining ever since. Forum mafia is killing me inside.
Lilac wrote:
Also, I really do not like how pieguy is playing in this game.
I hope you mean you think I'm scum and not personal dislikeI have some ideas, but I wanna wait till certain people post. :>
Roleclaim: Strong-Willed DeprogrammerrEdo wrote:
mind to elaborate?Rantai wrote:
I'm still adamant about some sort of cult (afia?) out there.
I do have my reasons to believing so, it's not just a baseless theory.
I cannot deprogram the cult leader but I can deprogram any other cult member. I cannot be recruited.
1. You reliase I have been suspecting DD for legitimate reasons since Night 1 LONG before pieguy or you came along and started suspecting him/threatening to shoot.rEdo wrote:
I had that suspicion right from the start when Rantai and pieguy were rather forcing the idea of me shooting Dake, which caught my eye, so I tagged along in their play with a gambit. here are my thoughts so far:
- if Dake flips town, then pieguy and Rantai apparently were speculating on their daychat to push the wagon of DD being scum (that would also reason why Rantai started being so active yet again), shooting him, thus wasting my shot on a townie, and lynching somebody else afterwards - that's why I asked for a flip right after DD's death, but him surviving makes things even easier. he already said "nothing's gonna change" - that would mean he's a deathproof townie (nothing else comes to my mind, a deathproof goon sounds way too OP). not to mention that there's from none to little interaction between them in their posts, they're certainly avoiding that to happen.
- if Dake flips scum, then apparently pieguy wasn't bullshitting and he was really hunting for scum, thus rather leaning him to be town, however it's not the case this time.
2. Pieguy and I not directing posts each other is pure coincidence, I could say that you haven't posted towards BRBP (for example). If you're a hypocrit, you'll say that means nothing.
3. We don't have a definite flip on DD, not even a role. The best we can speculate right now is that he might be a reviver (2 town revivers in 1 game? What.), someone gave him a revive (could be anything) or your kill was actually a fakeshot that stops the lynch for the day.
@DD - I already stated why I am leaning pieguy town.
LS has been known to also include false roles as well, so there's a probability we aren't dealing with a cult.
Putting that out there.
Putting that out there.
Also, I don't buy that claim at all. You really don't want to be killed it seems, Rantai.
And neither do you, right? Getting nervous there with that quick denounce?
Also I softclaimed that role in day 1.
Also I softclaimed that role in day 1.
Guys, what would be the best strategy for my night action? (assuming I don't spontaneously blow up before the day ends or something)