I find this excuse totally fine, most of the people claim they can do something when they're in the best condition, for instance there're days I just can't play osu (haven't slept) but it doesn't mean I can't play it at all. It's wrong to judge people and say they're able or not to do something by spectating them once for 10-20 minutes. And yeah, people have different standarts.Pettanko wrote:
It's funny though because I've spectated a number of people who failed backing up their claims and they all had the same excuse: either they're "not warmed up"
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True, not everybody can always play at their best. There are good days and bad days.enik wrote:
It's wrong to judge people and say they're able or not to do something by spectating them once for 10-20 minutes.
However, you can give somebody a map and ask them to produce a score on it in their own free time and then give you a replay. Give them 3 days, 4 days... they can't just go and claim every single day was a bad day. If you ever had the ability to do it, you'd do it, and if not then not.
That's why I created this map http://puu.sh/3wCLU. If you ever encounter somebody overestimating their streaming ability, just ask them to play this map. It's a simple 185bpm stream that should be a piece of cake to do if you can really stream 185bpm. For the record I did 94% on this map and I don't consider myself to stream over 180bpm, even though I streamed (FC'd) 190bpm for 2000 notes once on a different practice map.
The main reason people overestimate their skill level is because they're still new to the game and their reading is bad so they're oblivious to what's going on. They play a map like NNRT and think they can stream 202bpm because it feels fast to them when in fact the map is just a bunch of bursts that are 9/13 notes long with only three streams that are 17 notes long (wow! 17!) in the very end (I can FC those "streams" while not even being warmed up for 170bpm with only a few 100s in the start/end of each stream since it's only OD7. so much for all of those miraculous 200bpm streamers).
Wishy wrote:
Most good players know who are the other good players, for example jesus is very slow and thelewa is the fastest player ever.
if you can 94% 190bpm for 2k notes you probably can fc fd with a good accuracy.Aqo wrote:
True, not everybody can always play at their best. There are good days and bad days.enik wrote:
It's wrong to judge people and say they're able or not to do something by spectating them once for 10-20 minutes.
However, you can give somebody a map and ask them to produce a score on it in their own free time and then give you a replay. Give them 3 days, 4 days... they can't just go and claim every single day was a bad day. If you ever had the ability to do it, you'd do it, and if not then not.
That's why I created this map http://puu.sh/3wCLU. If you ever encounter somebody overestimating their streaming ability, just ask them to play this map. It's a simple 185bpm stream that should be a piece of cake to do if you can really stream 185bpm. For the record I did 94% on this map and I don't consider myself to stream over 180bpm, even though I streamed (FC'd) 190bpm for 2000 notes once on a different practice map.
The main reason people overestimate their skill level is because they're still new to the game and their reading is bad so they're oblivious to what's going on. They play a map like NNRT and think they can stream 202bpm because it feels fast to them when in fact the map is just a bunch of bursts that are 9/13 notes long with only three streams that are 17 notes long (wow! 17!) in the very end (I can FC those "streams" while not even being warmed up for 170bpm with only a few 100s in the start/end of each stream since it's only OD7. so much for all of those miraculous 200bpm streamers).
I feel there is a huge difference between streaming 190bpm and 222.22bpm...buny wrote:
if you can 94% 190bpm for 2k notes you probably can fc fd with a good accuracy.
if you have stamina to stream 190 bpm for 2k notes then you have enough to do 222 bpm...Full Tablet wrote:
I feel there is a huge difference between streaming 190bpm and 222.22bpm...buny wrote:
if you can 94% 190bpm for 2k notes you probably can fc fd with a good accuracy.
Soarezi
yesSoarezi wrote:
but are you fast enough.buny wrote:
if you have stamina to stream 190 bpm for 2k notes then you have enough to do 222 bpm...
He misread Aqo's post. He got 94% on his 185 bpm practice map. He didn't say what he got on the 190 bpm for 2k notes.Soarezi wrote:
but are you fast enough.buny wrote:
if you have stamina to stream 190 bpm for 2k notes then you have enough to do 222 bpm...
hooray, we are back to another "what is streaming" thread!
Why do people overestimate theirwinber1 wrote:
hooray, we are back to another "what is streaming" thread!
Absolutely. Tbh, I think buny is just trying to make Aqo rage.Soarezi wrote:
Either way, the difference between 185/190-222 is enormous
He's probably just saying it from his personal experience which is different than other people'sRaneFire wrote:
Absolutely. Tbh, I think buny is just trying to make Aqo rage.
but it doesn't work like that. Everybody is different.
uh. no. if only...buny wrote:
if you have stamina to stream 190 bpm for 2k notes then you have enough to do 222 bpm...
if stamina could translate into speed I'd be able to DT mad machine... I can stream 180bpm for eternity (longest tested was only 15 minutes; didn't get tired at all just got bored) and yet still can't stream even 50 notes as fast as some individuals who just happen to be good at this. Being good at sprinting doesn't make you good at marathons nor does it work the other way around.
Either way, this thread is about people who think they belong to the magical group of people who can stream fast, when in fact they just pound their keyboard with the wrist on a 9~15 notes long stream and then think they're good at streaming fast.
If streaming fast was soooo easy and commonplace then scoreboards for maps like forgotten and mad machine wouldn't look like they do now. (if you're going to look at the scoreboards now, let me emphasize the fact that if you'd actually check the replays there's a ton of tap+x plays there)
Give me some internet pls.Soarezi wrote:
Either way, the difference between 185/190-222 is enormous
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You know what's funny? People who say they can read ar10 just because they managed to pass airman.
you know whats even funnier? people who say you can read ar10 just because you managed to pass airman
I can't pass Airman and I can sightread AR10 pretty well...silmarilen wrote:
you know whats even funnier? people who say you can read ar10 just because you managed to pass airman
If you can pass airman it doesn't mean you're good at AR10
But if you can't even pass airman you're most definitely .bad. at it
lol
But if you can't even pass airman you're most definitely .bad. at it
lol
Airman is extremely easy to pass, I know several not experienced players that could easily clear it, so yeah if you can't even clear Airman I'd also say you are very bad.
Would be a different story if it had higher drain like it did before rank tho.
Would be a different story if it had higher drain like it did before rank tho.
Airman is only HP3, how can you sightread ar10 but can't pass it?Almost wrote:
I can't pass Airman and I can sightread AR10 pretty well...
Aqo this map is too easy :<Aqo wrote:
That's why I created this map http://puu.sh/3wCLU. If you ever encounter somebody overestimating their streaming ability, just ask them to play this map. It's a simple 185bpm stream that should be a piece of cake to do if you can really stream 185bpm. For the record I did 94% on this map and I don't consider myself to stream over 180bpm, even though I streamed (FC'd) 190bpm for 2000 notes once on a different practice map.
There are many threads like this and I think most of them are useless. Please stop.winber1 wrote:
Do you really need to ask a question like this? Eiither they don't understand what true streaming (or reading) is or they just want to look pro. There aren't really any other possible reasons.
The whole point why people talk "big" is because every individual has a different definition for things.
For example, you can be able to "play" AR10 without being able to anywhere FC it - by "playing" in this case, the person in question is probably referring to "being able to somewhat handle and pass through it", rather than "full combo it on SS rank"; the main point here is, to differ between the act of playing and leaderboarding/scoring on this map, if you get me.
And that's basically it.
For example, you can be able to "play" AR10 without being able to anywhere FC it - by "playing" in this case, the person in question is probably referring to "being able to somewhat handle and pass through it", rather than "full combo it on SS rank"; the main point here is, to differ between the act of playing and leaderboarding/scoring on this map, if you get me.
And that's basically it.
sure, it's not 222bpm for 2k notes or 200 notesSoarezi wrote:
but are you fast enough.buny wrote:
if you have stamina to stream 190 bpm for 2k notes then you have enough to do 222 bpm...
@Aqo
marathon runners can't sprint as fast as sprinters, but they can run faster than their actual pace that they run the marathon. They obviously don't to conserve energy
I can stream 190bpm for 2000 notes and I get tired in FD
maybe i just need to train my fingersthelewa wrote:
I can stream 190bpm for 2000 notes and I get tired in FD
i can hardly do 500 perfectly
well fuck. damn, looks like i can't stream 202bpm after all. so much for feeling good about myself.Aqo wrote:
The main reason people overestimate their skill level is because they're still new to the game and their reading is bad so they're oblivious to what's going on. They play a map like NNRT and think they can stream 202bpm because it feels fast to them when in fact the map is just a bunch of bursts that are 9/13 notes long with only three streams that are 17 notes long (wow! 17!) in the very end (I can FC those "streams" while not even being warmed up for 170bpm with only a few 100s in the start/end of each stream since it's only OD7. so much for all of those miraculous 200bpm streamers).
they think they're good. easy as that. but imo i think faster maps are easier huehue (ofc when im warmed up)
i preach to the world that i am the worst player ever on earth
Anytime i miss anything
I suck
So am i expecting too much from myself?
"overestimating?"
Anytime i miss anything
I suck
So am i expecting too much from myself?
"overestimating?"
Yuu-Chii wrote:
i preach to the world that i am the worst player ever on earth
Anytime i miss anything
I suck
So am i expecting too much from myself?
"overestimating?"
Once you say you're good, you say you're satisfied. Once that happens you won't improve anymore because you don't push your limits anymore.
Therefore I will never say I'm good at the game.
But maybe that's also because I actually am honestly bad, compared to people with similar joining dates and playcounts? Oh well.
Therefore I will never say I'm good at the game.
But maybe that's also because I actually am honestly bad, compared to people with similar joining dates and playcounts? Oh well.
You can't really compare high speed with high stamina.
I can't hold a certain bpm for very long when streaming, however saying that you can't stream a certain bpm because you can't hit more than, let's say 100 notes with 300, is kinda bull. To be honest, insanely high bpms might be impressive to play, but most of the time I see people derping so much on low bpm that it's kinda funny (for example RooM, people just HAVE to use doubletime, and get owned by OD even more, because they are unable to play slow things).
In regular conditions you will never face such things in most ranked maps. While freedom dive demands exceptional stamina, apart from the deathstream, other streams are pretty easy to click. The hard part of the freedom dive streams is the aiming required in my opinion. Often times I can steadily click but can't aim, so once you hit one note too late due to bad aim, the whole stream falls apart.
Though, here is one example of a pretty good test if you can actually stream around 230bpm: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/38235 + DT.
I can't hold a certain bpm for very long when streaming, however saying that you can't stream a certain bpm because you can't hit more than, let's say 100 notes with 300, is kinda bull. To be honest, insanely high bpms might be impressive to play, but most of the time I see people derping so much on low bpm that it's kinda funny (for example RooM, people just HAVE to use doubletime, and get owned by OD even more, because they are unable to play slow things).
In regular conditions you will never face such things in most ranked maps. While freedom dive demands exceptional stamina, apart from the deathstream, other streams are pretty easy to click. The hard part of the freedom dive streams is the aiming required in my opinion. Often times I can steadily click but can't aim, so once you hit one note too late due to bad aim, the whole stream falls apart.
Though, here is one example of a pretty good test if you can actually stream around 230bpm: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/38235 + DT.
i wish i could hold high bpm for a long time 
I can only do slow bpm.....
I can only do slow bpm.....
ThisYuu-Chii wrote:
i preach to the world that i am the worst player ever on earth
Anytime i miss anything
I suck
So am i expecting too much from myself?
"overestimating?"