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VoidnOwO
:)
pieguyn
good god someone fucking vote BRBP already
RB + BRBP best scumteam 2014
Tsukasa
/late

Tanzklaue wrote:

I personally still think that sukasa is scum, same reasons as before.

and since I can't really read into this game at all, I don't have anyone else.

so
Vote: Tsukasa
Seriously?

Tanzklaue wrote:

quara started this day doubting my action, doubting the usefulness of my role, and even doubting my mytery role claim overall.

and now he says again that my role could be potentially useful and that it is suspicious for people to vote for me?
after a day 1 that left me as the biggest scumsuspect and a day 2 that brought up virtually nothing?

I don't know about you guys, but I get major scumvibes from that.

Vote: Quaraezha
Double seriously?

Guys how many to hammer? Because I am so going to intent if there's a chance
VoidnOwO
:)
VoidnOwO
:)
Tanzklaue

Tsukasa wrote:

/late

Tanzklaue wrote:

I personally still think that sukasa is scum, same reasons as before.

and since I can't really read into this game at all, I don't have anyone else.

so
Vote: Tsukasa
Seriously?

Tanzklaue wrote:

quara started this day doubting my action, doubting the usefulness of my role, and even doubting my mytery role claim overall.

and now he says again that my role could be potentially useful and that it is suspicious for people to vote for me?
after a day 1 that left me as the biggest scumsuspect and a day 2 that brought up virtually nothing?

I don't know about you guys, but I get major scumvibes from that.

Vote: Quaraezha
Double seriously?

Guys how many to hammer? Because I am so going to intent if there's a chance
if you vote me now then I am most likely dead.

and i think qua and tsukasa are scum. I think that pieguy and RB fight a town vs town fight, BRBP is as far as I'm concerned town aligned aswell. rantai and fart definetly get a townread from me, as they seem to be the only ones not contradicting themselves constantly and not fighting meaningless fights.

qua just flip flops heavily, first he says at the start of day 2 that I am not to be believed and that my mystery role is not a valid reason to not lynch me, and then he swings back on his opinion to attack the 2 guys I think are most definetly town.

tsukasa was so overly aggressive and nitpicky on me, trying to carry the RV on me out to an easy lynch, and then attacking me, even slightly insulting me. he also only tunneled on me, was superconcerned about confirming qua, and didn't help at all to find scum the whole time. he also randomly voted for rantai at day 1 for even sillier reasons than he had for me.

overall, this game suffers from inactivity. if town wants to win, day 3 has to be a pressure fest. and the dumb and unnecessary fights have to end. they don't help town to find scum.
Tanzklaue
I also find it funny how tsukasa reads my voting on him as scummy behaviour, when he himself is just ridiculously tunneled on me.
also, why would tsukasa want to know how much it takes to hammer? he should vote regardless of the chance ofa hammer, especially considering how much time is left until the deadline.
pieguyn
for me BRBP might as well have roleclaimed mafia
pieguyn
also iirc there's 2 hours left I think
it's probably earlier though > <
Tsukasa

Tanzklaue wrote:

overall, this game suffers from inactivity. if town wants to win, day 3 has to be a pressure fest. and the dumb and unnecessary fights have to end. they don't help town to find scum.
We can move the pressure fest earlier, D2.

Like pressuring Tanz.
Tsukasa

Tanzklaue wrote:

I also find it funny how tsukasa reads my voting on him as scummy behaviour, when he himself is just ridiculously tunneled on me.
also, why would tsukasa want to know how much it takes to hammer? he should vote regardless of the chance ofa hammer, especially considering how much time is left until the deadline.
Because obviously you state intent to hammer before hammering.

:roll:
VoidnOwO
:)
pieguyn
hell looking at it even more I have no idea what to think
that NL was like the worst thing ever, we got no information whatsoever from that. now I almost feel like voting RB again or maybe Tanz
Tsukasa

pieguy1372 wrote:

hell looking at it even more I have no idea what to think
that NL was like the worst thing ever, we got no information whatsoever from that. now I almost feel like voting RB again or maybe Tanz
WHEN DAFUQ WAS NL D1 A GOOD IDEA?!

Finally you understand.

NL would be fine on MyLo or shit like that
pieguyn
I understood since before D1 even ended
FoS Tsukasa not reading the thread :P
Tsukasa
Hey. It's not only directed to you, brother.

Anyways... What's tanz's standing? Too lazy to count votes
pieguyn
mod: can we get a 24 hour extension plz
we need to figure stuff out first
Raging Bull
I still say pieguy is mafia but I'll go and put away our shit for today then.
Topic Starter
Kanye West
VOTE COUNT:

pieguy1372 - Raging Bull, BRBP
BRBP - pieguy1372, Quaraezha
Tanzklaue - Rantai, fartownik
Quaraezha - Tanzklaue

Let me know if there's mistakes. (fixed, didn't catch BRBP's vote before)

Deadline extended by 24 hours, a little over 25 hours remain.
Tanzklaue
my vote is on qua kanye
Tsukasa
Oh 4 votes to hammer.

[b]Vote:Tanz[b]
Tsukasa
Vote:Tanz

DAMN / KEY
Raging Bull
Tanz, people seem to think Qua is town due to his role interaction with Tsukasa. Why did you vote for him?

Tanzklaue wrote:

quara started this day doubting my action, doubting the usefulness of my role, and even doubting my mytery role claim overall.

and now he says again that my role could be potentially useful and that it is suspicious for people to vote for me?
after a day 1 that left me as the biggest scumsuspect and a day 2 that brought up virtually nothing?

I don't know about you guys, but I get major scumvibes from that.

Vote: Quaraezha

Where did you get that?
Tsukasa
Because he thinks we're both scum :roll:
Tanzklaue

Quaraezha wrote:

Isn't weird that Rantai and fartownik suddenly went on just to vote Tanzklue, a potential Mystery Role?
I got that from here.
Quaraezha
I was just a little convinced that both Rantai and fartownik want to lynch Tanzklue.
Because a) He's an easy target who makes a lot of mistakes, and easy to make a point when trying to lynch him
b) He claimed a mystery role, so if he really is a mystery role, that would be a plus for Mafia
I'm not trying to defend Tanz but I just think it's weird.

But I'm probably just too distracted by pieguy/BRBP/Raging Bull's silly arguments.
That and it's impossible for both me and Tsukasa to be Mafia.
Because no other Town Mystery Roles made a report other than Tanzklue
If there are more Mystery Roles in town, they would've reported already because having around 4-5 town MR's are too many.

There might be one hiding, but that's understandable if there's really nothing to report.
Tsukasa
Tanz: Seriously answer that.

Isn't it because you both think we're scum?
Tanzklaue
I answered already.

you really should read more carefully.
Tsukasa

Tanzklaue wrote:

Quaraezha wrote:

Isn't weird that Rantai and fartownik suddenly went on just to vote Tanzklue, a potential Mystery Role?
I got that from here.
So this IS your final answer?
Tanzklaue
uhm, yea?

I mean, RB asked from where I got the idea that qua again argues on my potential use as PR, I gave the quote from where I got this read, what's your point?
Tsukasa
Because if you actually had the reason as me and qua being scum then I could have said you were town.
Because no scum would actually call both of us liars. Only town people do that

Obviously you didn't.

And you actually moved up a scum level
Quaraezha
I don't have much experience with Tanz, but I just think he's a clumsy/unhelpful unconfirmed mystery townie.
Tsukasa
Especially after voting me

Tanzklaue wrote:

I personally still think that sukasa is scum, same reasons as before.

and since I can't really read into this game at all, I don't have anyone else.

so
Vote: Tsukasa

Tanzklaue wrote:

quara started this day doubting my action, doubting the usefulness of my role, and even doubting my mytery role claim overall.

and now he says again that my role could be potentially useful and that it is suspicious for people to vote for me?
after a day 1 that left me as the biggest scumsuspect and a day 2 that brought up virtually nothing?

I don't know about you guys, but I get major scumvibes from that.

Vote: Quaraezha
Then Qua

Tanzklaue wrote:

if you vote me now then I am most likely dead.

and i think qua and tsukasa are scum. I think that pieguy and RB fight a town vs town fight, BRBP is as far as I'm concerned town aligned aswell. rantai and fart definetly get a townread from me, as they seem to be the only ones not contradicting themselves constantly and not fighting meaningless fights.

qua just flip flops heavily, first he says at the start of day 2 that I am not to be believed and that my mystery role is not a valid reason to not lynch me, and then he swings back on his opinion to attack the 2 guys I think are most definetly town.

tsukasa was so overly aggressive and nitpicky on me, trying to carry the RV on me out to an easy lynch, and then attacking me, even slightly insulting me. he also only tunneled on me, was superconcerned about confirming qua, and didn't help at all to find scum the whole time. he also randomly voted for rantai at day 1 for even sillier reasons than he had for me.

overall, this game suffers from inactivity. if town wants to win, day 3 has to be a pressure fest. and the dumb and unnecessary fights have to end. they don't help town to find scum.
[/quote]

Especially when you said that both of us are scum
Tanzklaue
what?

me saying you and qua are both scum would make me town?

a) why even?
b) I said earlier that I believe you and qua are scum, so why do you ask that again?
c) why do you take my answer to RBs question as answer to yours? it was clearly directed at RB, so again, what is your point?
Tsukasa
A) Because only town would be the only people to think that both Qua and I are lying. It's actually a fact.
B) Final determination if you are scum or town.
C) I just noticed the chance
Quaraezha
@Tanzklue: You just keep answering questions with more questions rather than answering them.
Tanzklaue

Tsukasa wrote:

A) Because only town would be the only people to think that both Qua and I are lying. It's actually a fact.
B) Final determination if you are scum or town.
C) I just noticed the chance
so you take an answer to a question that wasn't even yours and judge on that?

you didn't even ask me directly, you answered iin my stead to RB.
yes, I think you are both scum. but that wasn't the point of RBs question.the point of it was WHY I thought qua was scum. I answered his question perfectly fine, and from that you concluded that I must be scum. because I didn't say "I think tsukasa and qua are scum together", which i already said earlier though, but apparently that statement makes me scummier again.

am I really the only one who sees this nonsensical madness?

@qua: I answered RBs question, and after that I didn't answer any question with a question.
Quaraezha

Tanzklaue wrote:

@qua: I answered RBs question, and after that I didn't answer any question with a question.

Tanzklaue wrote:

what?

me saying you and qua are both scum would make me town?

a) why even?
b) I said earlier that I believe you and qua are scum, so why do you ask that again?
c) why do you take my answer to RBs question as answer to yours? it was clearly directed at RB, so again, what is your point?
Tanzklaue

Quaraezha wrote:

Tanzklaue wrote:

@qua: I answered RBs question, and after that I didn't answer any question with a question.

Tanzklaue wrote:

what?

me saying you and qua are both scum would make me town?

a) why even?
b) I said earlier that I believe you and qua are scum, so why do you ask that again?
c) why do you take my answer to RBs question as answer to yours? it was clearly directed at RB, so again, what is your point?
those weren't answers. those were legitimate questions, because I just don't get him anymore.

I man, to what question should they even be an answer?
Tsukasa

Tanzklaue wrote:

Tsukasa wrote:

A) Because only town would be the only people to think that both Qua and I are lying. It's actually a fact.
B) Final determination if you are scum or town.
C) I just noticed the chance
so you take an answer to a question that wasn't even yours and judge on that?

you didn't even ask me directly, you answered iin my stead to RB.
yes, I think you are both scum. but that wasn't the point of RBs question.the point of it was WHY I thought qua was scum. I answered his question perfectly fine, and from that you concluded that I must be scum. because I didn't say "I think tsukasa and qua are scum together", which i already said earlier though, but apparently that statement makes me scummier again.

am I really the only one who sees this nonsensical madness?

@qua: I answered RBs question, and after that I didn't answer any question with a question.
Obviously because a direct question is always bad and dumb.

And to be fair.

I did ASK you for a confirmation. You confirmed it
Tanzklaue
yes, I agree, it is pretty dumb to ask a question in a way that it is actually a question and actually understandable.

you asked me on confirmation on my answer to RBs question, and I gave you that. like i said, you didn't even ask me about me saying that you and qua are scum.
Tsukasa
That's because you're hallucinating.

This is not nonsensical madness. You're the only one who sees it like that.

And if you can actually understand why you saying that Qua and I are buddies together would make you town, then you wouldn't see it as madness.

But then again if you knew how to answer me, Then I can never confirm you.

Ergo, you scumz
Tsukasa
No no no.

The question is not about why Qua and I are scum.

The reason is why you vote Qua

And to top that off, why you vote Qua after you vote me. THEN saying that both of us are scum
Tanzklaue
if it's so easy, then please, anyone: explain it. why would me thinking tsukasa and qua are scum make me town.

the reason why you are scum is that you are senselessly aggressive against me, to a point where it is just ridiculous.

the reason I suspect qua (see the difference "is" and "suspect") is because he basically goes down on my 2 best townreads in this mess using an argument contradictionary to what he said earlier (he even doubted my claim at the start of day 2, so why should he argue on me being a mystery role?)

I first voted you in the vague hope that anyone actually listens to me instead of fighting a pointless fight and to get you lynched, because I am convinced that you are scum.

I then voted qua, because pressuring someone who you think might be scum to get more info out of them is just the way you should play as town. again, nobody listened to me, instead still arguing over RB and pieguy.

I then said that i think that both of you are scum, because that's just the case. while I am not completly sure with qua, I am completly sure with you, and since you are y only leads here, I go with them.
Raging Bull
I forsee pieguy vs RB: Tsukasa vs Tanzklaue version.

Truthfully, I cannot understand this also
A) Because only town would be the only people to think that both Qua and I are lying. It's actually a fact.
pieguyn
okay so let's assume RB, me, Tanz, and Tsukasa are all confirmed town
that leaves BRBP, Rantai, Qua, and fartownik
of those, Qua was pushing a no lynch really hard. then again I'm still not sure how likely starting with a mafia roleswitcher is
looking at fartownik he followed people earlier but I looked at some other games the other day and he always seems to do that from what I can tell, so I don't even know
BRBP is 101% mafia
I'm not sure I like how Rantai pushed for a Tanz lynch from the start. he's also just been holding back the whole game. in other words, I can't figure out anything, srsly that NL was so bad aaaaaaaa > <

now, even if we remove the assumption, that NL was really bad either way. Now we're completely stuck D2. so HoS: Rantai
VoidnOwO
:)
pieguyn
hahaha
that's cause I thought we'd get everything done within the next 24 hours, but then we didn't
if you wanna lynch me based off that go ahead :P
Rantai
That NL didn't affect the outcome that much, you can still infer some information from day 1's voting (which is basically the same information as a lynch, just a little harder to process).

We basically got the worst case scenario this round (please think about this objectively, the chances of our informative role dying night one was very low, RNG dicked us hard), so you *can* say that the NL lead to a bad outcome this time but the idea itself was fine had any other person got cop.
pieguyn
except the alignments of the players can tell us a lot, now we don't have it 0.0
Rantai
Eh not particularly, especially if town mislynch. A scum lynch would give more I guess.
Quaraezha
Day should've ended by now.
Topic Starter
Kanye West
sry about this guys, day's over. been afk all day moving into new apartment,

VOTE COUNT:

Tanzklaue - Rantai, fartownik, Tsukasa
pieguy1372 - Raging Bull, BRBP
BRBP - pieguy1372, Quaraezha
Quaraezha - Tanzklaue

And so at the end of the long day, the group decides to lynch Tanzklaue. They sail out to sea, tie him to a large rock, and drown him.

"Wait, what does that card he left behind say?!?"
"Certified bodyguard"
"Shit."


Tanzklaue was lynched. Tanzklaue was a Bodyguard (Town).

It is now Night 2. Submit all actions. Night 2 ends in 24 hours.
Tanzklaue
good luck town, I will try to be less shi- *gurgles*
Topic Starter
Kanye West
As you wake up and wander to the town square, you notice a body, still warm with blood.

"Is that Quaraezha? Looks like he's wearing his clothes or something..."

"No, it's Tsukasa!"


Tsukasa has died. Tsukasa was a Changeling (Town).

It is now Day 3. With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to hammer. Deadline is in 96 hours.
Quaraezha
So I'm clear now Secret Role Townie, right?

Also, I guess Mafia Kill prioritizes the "Changeling" action
pieguyn
yep I assume changeling = role switcher
you could still be mafia cause I assume it doesn't change alignment
Rantai
Huh, never heard of changeling before.
fartownik
Wow, the activity beams.

Let's analyze the information the 2 kills give us.

I feel sorry for Tanz, he was really my best bet for scum, disappointed to see him flip Town. I don't think we can base on the information from the wagon itself though, as only me and Rantai remain living. I think it wouldn't be in the best interest of scum to kill off a potential scumspect from the same wagon they were on, thus Rantai doesn't ring scum for voting Tanz.

The Tsukasa kill was like the most obvious thing scum could do, and they did it. Didn't expect much else since he was a Mystery Role. If he didn't die though they could put some WIFOM on him, like why isn't a known PR dead yet? Seems like he was a threat for them in the end, but I didn't see any more suspects from him besides Tanz whom is already dead. I guess we should stick to the scenario that they killed him because he was a PR.

Quarezha is most likely Town imo, but I can be wrong. He keeps bringing the information that he's Town in his posts so much that I find it persistent.

My best guess would be BRBP/pieguy/RB lineup. As much as I doubt pieguy and RB are scum together because of that 'little' fight, I can't deny one of them might still be scum, probably along with BRBP. pieguy seems to push BRBP hard for the lynch, doesn't feel much like distancing so I guess my 2 best guesses would be BRBP and RB.

Also, aren't we in MyLo yet? 4 Townies, 2 scum. Means if we mislynch we have 3 Townies, 2 scum, adding a nightkill it's 2=2 which means a lose. I guess it's partially MyLo since the nightkill might not be performed due to the PRs, but I guess Kanye should've stated that in his latest post anyhow.
Rantai
Yeah we're in my-lo.
Raging Bull
Okay so did anyone get anything useful? Because I think Q can be mafia. He targetted Tsukasa with his role to test it and is the first to report his action. He did it really quick that it made me suspicious. Perhaps to get town cred really early on?

Also damnit I'm still for pieguy.
Rantai

Raging Bull wrote:

Okay so did anyone get anything useful? Because I think Q can be mafia. He targetted Tsukasa with his role to test it and is the first to report his action. He did it really quick that it made me suspicious. Perhaps to get town cred really early on?
To be the first to claim without any way to back out of it and to be endorsed by a confirmed town leads me to believe that he is more likely town than mafia.

BUT I still have absolutely no idea what a changeling actually is so I am eh-eh about it (did a skim of the mafia wiki, didn't find it)

@mod - can you explain what a changeling is - I want peace of mind.
Topic Starter
Kanye West

Rantai wrote:

@mod - can you explain what a changeling is - I want peace of mind.
Role Swapper with a cooler name.
Rantai
Mm thanks.
fartownik
Hm, this game is still running. Are we even doing anything?
Raging Bull
God damn okay... pieguy anyone?
Rantai
I'm not sure who to vote for today. My-lo policy is usually no lynch to bring it to ly-lo but I get the feeling I already know who is going to get shot (no point trying to pick at that statement, put two and two together).


To be honest though, I haven't been paying too much attention for the past few days (uni-related issues).
pieguyn
let's do something
vote: BRBP same idea as before
Quaraezha
Just leaving my vote here. Shit got boring, sorry.

Vote: No Lynch
pieguyn
well that got nowhere fast
seriously someone do something already. mathematically we should just NL but having this amount of inactivity seems so weird..
Raging Bull
Sure.

Vote:NL
pieguyn
vote: NL
inb4 mafia has a 1-shot extra kill or we get PGOwned
Raging Bull
I don't think we have any other (that stated) mystery roles anymore.
Rantai
Policy it is;

Vote: No Lynch
Topic Starter
Kanye West
Town has voted for no lynch. Game will be in night phase for 6 days as I do not have access to my computer and player role files. Submit actions and I will resolve when I get home.
Raging Bull
Wow. Maybe get a temporary host?
NoHitter

Kanye West wrote:

Town has voted for no lynch. Game will be in night phase for 6 days as I do not have access to my computer and player role files. Submit actions and I will resolve when I get home.
I'll be happy to act as a temporary host if that means that the game will keep moving.
fartownik
Please take over the host... 144h long night? lol
pieguyn
hey at least he announced it up front instead of moving the deadline every time it was about to happen
oh wait > <
Topic Starter
Kanye West

NoHitter wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

Town has voted for no lynch. Game will be in night phase for 6 days as I do not have access to my computer and player role files. Submit actions and I will resolve when I get home.
I'll be happy to act as a temporary host if that means that the game will keep moving.
I'd be glad to let you host, but like I said, I don't have the file with the roles that were assigned to everyone, and I don't remember what everyone had and don't want to mess up the game.
fartownik
.
Topic Starter
Kanye West
The veil of darkness finally lifts...

fartownik is dead. fartownik was a Townie (town).

It is now Day 4. Deadline in 96 hours, 3 votes to lynch.
VoidnOwO
So.... Farto was the only VT in this game?
Rantai
Oh jesus, time to try to reread everything to remember the game =.=
pieguyn
oh great, 5 people, that means one misvote and the two mafia just quickhammer and win
that said
HoS: BRBP
I'm more than sure he's mafia but for the reason above I prefer not to vote for now 0.0
too lazy to go back and point out all the reasons again
VoidnOwO
:)
Raging Bull
No nothing has happened. Fucking mafia keeping me alive because of pieguy.
pieguyn
okay no let's make something happen
vote: BRBP
boom. gonna quickhammer, mafia? I doubt it
srsly, it's LyLo anyway and we're not getting anywhere. this is better than just sitting here cause no one's even posting anything and BRBP's not defending himself
inb4it's RB and Qua
Rantai
I have to agree, I really can't summon the energy to try in this one. Sorry Kayne
VoidnOwO
:)
pieguyn
yeah BRBP is mafia
he has no defense so he just pulls the "the guy accusing me is mafia" card at LyLo and by the time we realize it it's too late
gogogo
pieguyn
also note he didn't even do anything until I voted him and then he just pops out of nowhere
VoidnOwO
:)
pieguyn
note you didn't even have a legitimate reason anytime you voted me
the first statement is valid cause I HoS'ed you which in this situation should be the same as a normal vote cause just voting someone here is normally insane
I've given my reason for voting you in the thread somewhere too lazy to go find it
VoidnOwO
:)
pieguyn
you literally had no reason and were just following others, I on the other hand did
I'd never bluff like that as mafia cause anyone could theoretically go back in the thread and refute it which would be a dead giveaway, so there's no reason not to believe me here, unless you think I'm irrational or a bad player :P
Rantai
Well at least we've established that at least one of you is mafia.
VoidnOwO
:)
Quaraezha
I'm here.
Surprised to see fartownik be Vanilla
Either he was Vanilla Town to begin with or his skill was activated then he turned VT.

Regardless, no point going on about that.

Currently BRBP and pieguy has 1 vote each, right?
Does it take 3 votes to hammer?
VoidnOwO
Yes and yes.
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