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Magicphoenix
Necro king of stealing now lol
Icyteru
It was already known that 6.78 would be implemented before the TI3, no fraud here.
Backfire

Remco32 wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

afaik yes

not applied in doto 2 yet though
Why would they screw the teams over by changing the rules of the game when the TI in in a few months?
To change the game and make it so it's about pure skill, not exploiting stale, tiresome and formulaic forms of victory which keeps happening in this current iteration of dota 2 (PL + KotL, Naix + LD, Mag + Gyro/whatever).

It will also make it really interesting when teams pull out pocket strats to counter what will most likely be popular at that time of the game (TI2 had clutch jugger+enigma by na'vi to counter really bullshit wombo combo that was tide ds naga). There will most likely be similar underdog heros who become, well, the hero of the tournament. Of course, there will also be an OP hero that the teams will most likely exploit (i'm thinking Silencer core will become very popular and annoying as shit to play against).
Magicphoenix
Doom counters fucikng everything as well. No backtrack 'n all that stuff is op. Also after thinking a little bit, aghanim's disabling the duration to go down on Doom isn't really that big of a deal unless you pub and got 30 armor + 4k hp and you want to chase a hero from one side of the map to the other. I mean, if you got 16 sec duration on Doom and still not manage to kill him? That's...not how Doom should be working.
(got this thought from synderen's analysis. If anybody is interested : http://www.twitch.tv/synderen/b/410615368?t=2h31m30s)


And I can see iG.Zhou's Necrolyte coming back again =D
Game Winner hero =D Even if the enemy is BKB'd, if you can stun him with agha-ulti and you manage to right-click him down, kill still goes to Necro -> no buyback.
Damn.
Deventious
I <3 Dota 2.
Nuff said.
I'm out.
Peace.
Bye.
.
Icyteru


The irony of lightofheaven getting raped by Na'Vi.
dNextGen
because Empire is so bad

notice how shit navi has become after they lost LoH and Ars-Art
Tshemmp
They lost LOST hahahaha...

Imo Na'Vi became better after switching their players. Not comparable to TI2 Na'Vi ofcourse but they were sliding in a pretty deep hole before the changes.
Magicphoenix

dNextGen wrote:

because Empire is so bad

notice how shit navi has become after they lost LoH and Ars-Art
?????
dNextGen
Maximum bonus (14 stacks) is achieved when Huskar has strictly less than 3% of his maximum HP, which will provide 112/210/224/280 attack speed and 56%/70%/84%/98% magic resistance.
wow Huskar is practically immune to any magic damage when his berserk blood charges reach 14,would form such a deadly combo with Dazzul

sad that he is not in the cm mode :(

Magicphoenix wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

because Empire is so bad

notice how shit navi has become after they lost LoH and Ars-Art
?????
>:( :o :( :( :?
druidxd

dNextGen wrote:

Maximum bonus (14 stacks) is achieved when Huskar has strictly less than 3% of his maximum HP, which will provide 112/210/224/280 attack speed and 56%/70%/84%/98% magic resistance.
wow Huskar is practically immune to any magic damage when his berserk blood charges reach 14,would form such a deadly combo with Dazzul

sad that he is not in the cm mode :(
At least he will not hit for about 100000000000000000 at a rate of 1000000 spears a second, he will only hit for about 150 at a rate of 1000000 spears a second, so you will have a chance at killing him with a stun and right clicks.
Remco32
Lich is so much fun now.
Unlimited mana. Harass/nuke ability. Team buff that can autocast. And an ult that can reck in teamfights.
Pizzicato
doom in every pub gaem
Icyteru

Remco32 wrote:

Lich is so much fun now.
Unlimited mana. Harass/nuke ability. Team buff that can autocast. And an ult that can reck in teamfights.
what changed?
afaik, he could always do that...what did i miss from changelog?
Magicphoenix
3 extra bounces on ulti

PS : Had a teamfight and i was Lion with agha. First thing I do : ulti troll -> blink to neutrals -> drain mana -> blink back in -> ulti troll -> troll dead.
lol.
And he didn't take damage from anything else. Only from my ulti xD so fun
dNextGen
and they say PL is nerfed

and Medusa isnt even in CM,the only true counter to those gay illusions after ES

maan watching PL games in competitive is so
dNextGen


woo im likin the diversity 6.78 brings to da competitive games

KP so underrated next [A] is KP
Pizzicato
a lot raged when they did not get invited at TI3. :(

that's why they're participating in every tournaments available
dNextGen
yeah,they became one of my fav team easily D:

they got shitload of haters though,just because Envy is an anime type guy who loves anime
Magicphoenix
Fnatic 25% vs VP , VP 30% vs Alliance -> 23 rares, nice
dNextGen
i wish i had balls to bet my rares
Pizzicato
anyone else crashing whenever medusa casts ult?

i crashed twice in a single game. right after medusa casted her ult .-.

also no error notices whatsoever :(
Soulclenz
playing medusa now makes me feel happy.

also hi DNG, haven't seen you in forever =o.
Backfire

dNextGen wrote:

yeah,they became one of my fav team easily D:

they got shitload of haters though,just because Envy is an anime type guy who loves anime
No, they hate him because he is a whiner and an entitled little shit who fabricates things to make himself like a god of dota. This guy, I liked him a while back, but after the MAAD where he got mad about kaipi not getting invited was disgusting. As was CWM's attitude. They are playing like QPAD now though. Uaing these cheese strats that everyone counters? I don't like them anymore. Feel more comfortable supporting nice guys like mouz.
bmin11
Does anyone know of a good guide for beginners to read and learn from? (not necessarily a hero guide)
Backfire

bmin11 wrote:

Does anyone know of a good guide for beginners to read and learn from? (not necessarily a hero guide)
http://www.purgegamers.com/welcome-to-dota-you-suck
Remco32

Backfire wrote:

bmin11 wrote:

Does anyone know of a good guide for beginners to read and learn from? (not necessarily a hero guide)
http://www.purgegamers.com/welcome-to-dota-you-suck
I'll never understand how people can link this to new players.
"Yeah, Dota is fun and not that hard, here's a 20 page guide you should read first though before attempting to play."
My advice, ask a friend who's already playing to show you the ropes.
dNextGen
@backfire i like him and KP because everyone hate em,no other reason

bmin11 wrote:

Does anyone know of a good guide for beginners to read and learn from? (not necessarily a hero guide)
bottom line : buy boots (Treads,Phase,Arcane etc) according to your hero type,farm,kill bitches

i personally recommend easy carry hero like Drow/Weaver to get started though,reading specific hero guides on dotafire is helpful too

Soulclenz wrote:

playing medusa now makes me feel happy.

also hi DNG, haven't seen you in forever =o.
:D
Tetsu_old

dNextGen wrote:

just because Envy is an anime type guy who loves anime
It's more because of CWM & EE acting like 5 years old morons when they don't like something. Still strange that you like them because...everyone hates them.
By the way, nice cheating Kaipi today. And even better response from CWM on his stream.

bmin11 wrote:

Does anyone know of a good guide for beginners to read and learn from? (not necessarily a hero guide)
Purgegamers just like Backfire mentioned. Check his youtube videos too, there are a lot of tutorials from him (like which are the best starting items for supporters, carry etc, how to offlane and all these things).
dNextGen
CWM crushin every team that he's on

it's not new
Magicphoenix
What did CWM say? Blame everybody xcept himself ? :P
dNextGen
Alucard
x
dNextGen
lmao,i hope dey be better than VP's ladies team :D

girls are so bad at Dota 2 :D :D
Pizzicato

dNextGen wrote:

lmao,i hope dey be better than VP's ladies team :D

girls are so bad at Dota 2 :D :D
lost to girls the other day. :(
Remco32
They just crave for attention.
Just like every girl
Tetsu_old
"Nexon's Korea Dota2 Announcement with overall $1.7million prizes."
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/ ... h_overall/
Pizzicato
koreans showing greater interest towards dota 2
cant wait to see how this turns out

"It will be interesting to see how Dota 2 will fare in the market dominated by League of Legends."
lol
bmin11
But that is the case. Koreans tend to be conservative and normally stick with the game they play the most.

Through, it would be interesting to see how Koreans will be at Dota 2, considering how dominant they've become in LoL scene.
Tshemmp
They have never really been succesful in DotA but maybe such a big prize pool can make a difference.
dNextGen
lol i feels a bit weaboo after installing this mod



Magicphoenix
how
K, this is definitely the best shit ever lol
holy crap
dNextGen


it makes last hitting a bit easier \:D/
Backfire
Dnex, why would you replace Juggernaut with anything? He is the pimpestest.
dNextGen
i blame the chinese forum who guided me to transform pimpestest nigga into a kawaii saber
Backfire
You are literally EternalEnvy now
Magicphoenix
I tell you what, he literally isn't.

Also, I think most of you know it already but Valve is gonna bring out a new documentary again + DOTA 2 will be officially released before TI3 with most probably Abaddon and Legion Commander added to the hero pool

+
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/24 ... llegal-bet
NOOB
AHAHAHAHAHA
Pizzicato
ouch
Tetsu_old
Just like SingSing would say:
"Easiest bet of my testicles"
Solo has been banned from all StarLadder competition for lifetime
BzzIsPerfect, Yol, Dread, and dnq have been banned for 3 years
The organisation roX.KIS has been banned for one year.
Also...

joinDOTA is supporting StarLadder's decision completely. Actions like this are unacceptable in any kind of sports. Therefore it's planned to extend the ban to all competitions organized by joinDOTA - including The Defense, Bigpoint Battle, Eizo Cup, jD Masters and more. A final decision will be made after all details are sorted out.
@dNextGen, who is that girl in your avatar? o.O Did you changed your avatar or it's just my idea?
Xylem Beer
They deserve it.
Icyteru
http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1308547

for saber mod. (woah it's been 3 months)

anyway, after every dota 2 update, you need to reapply this patch.
dNextGen

Tetsu wrote:

Just like SingSing would say:
"Easiest bet of my testicles"
Solo has been banned from all StarLadder competition for lifetime
BzzIsPerfect, Yol, Dread, and dnq have been banned for 3 years
The organisation roX.KIS has been banned for one year.
Also...

joinDOTA is supporting StarLadder's decision completely. Actions like this are unacceptable in any kind of sports. Therefore it's planned to extend the ban to all competitions organized by joinDOTA - including The Defense, Bigpoint Battle, Eizo Cup, jD Masters and more. A final decision will be made after all details are sorted out.
@dNextGen, who is that girl in your avatar? o.O Did you changed your avatar or it's just my idea?
yeah i changed it,google "paruru" and you'll find a lot

feel bad for Rox.Kids used to be my fav Rus doto team,time to change fanboism to VP,and apparenly their carry player plays osu! too

isnt that cool
Magicphoenix
Well, his original nickname is Airman ga Taosenai after all, maybe he been playin' and lovin' that map for quite a while :D
Toroguythingymajig
is there anyone who plays in SEA or china server? i'd like to have someone to play with :D
dNextGen
i play mostly in SEA/Aus region,but dunno,im not that kind of a team player :D

anyway this vid is damn funny

Pizzicato
but playing with someone is always fun (unless you're playing with kids)
Tetsu_old
Pure perfection from Alliance in the 3rd game in finals. 20+ kills, 0 deaths.
Great performance from my favourite support player as well, Akke. :D
Xylem Beer
I regularly play on SEA server, but most of the time we're group of 5 players, sometimes we also go to TMMs

Tetsu wrote:

Pure perfection from Alliance in the 3rd game in finals. 20+ kills, 0 deaths.
Great performance from my favourite support player as well, Akke. :D
Yeah, he's my favorite Chen player right now. :D

Also, I find it funny how Quantic banned LD against Alliance every game. u mad bulldog?
dNextGen
prove that Bulldog can only play 2 heroes D:

but Quantic is still the most interesting doto team to watch,i mean look at their picks

not those boring Naix Pook kotl PL and shit
Magicphoenix
Alliance dota is boring dota.
Period.
And Goblak is BEAST - as well as Silent, definitely the core of Quantic (while Goblak is the king)
FuckingMad is also pretty good

I also think that EG should dismiss bdiz as well as Jeyo, they just pull EG down. Right now it's like this :
Fear, 99%
Demon & Bamboe, 1%
Jeyo & bdiz, -100%

I find it fucking sad that Fear is such an extraordinary and the most hard working and best player in NA (and EU), but his teamm8s just can't keep up with him and they pull him down. I feel really bad for Fear every time :(
Bros before pros?

What surprised me the most was Dignitas (I think they surprised about everyone). Since a while already I see their drafting and strategy as highly interesting, they just build their own meta. They have their own picks and strategies just like Quantic and I love it that they have such an unique and unconventional style (which works btw, prove : NaVi).

I'm really looking forward to TI3 now. Like, really. There won't be East vs West -> Eastern Regions vs Eastern Regions -> Chinese vs Chinese this year. It will be Team A vs Team B. I strongly believe so and I think I will be proven right



PS: Mouz finals ez with qojqva trolololo
dNextGen
what you expect from 2 thrower in 1 team bro,maybe Fear should find a better team but i doubt he'd throw those shitload of sponsorship his current team have right now

what i feel about Quantic is the French trio aint in the same level skill as Goblak and Silent,if Goblak didnt get the hero he wanted then Quantic winrate is like <40%

dNextGen


since when Bamboe become so badass jeez
sanju5
lol eg has really short players
sanju5

Magicphoenix wrote:

I'm really looking forward to TI3 now. Like, really. There won't be East vs West -> Eastern Regions vs Eastern Regions -> Chinese vs Chinese this year. It will be Team A vs Team B. I strongly believe so and I think I will be proven right
Welp, that's what 99% of the dota population thinks so you don't need to flatter yourself :).
Magicphoenix
^I never had any intention of flattering myself? In what way am I flattering myself anyway?

Btw, after doing this in my head, I'm curious how you guys rate the DOTA 2 commentators =p
For me :

Luminous > TriumphOfMan > LD > Saga (german caster) > Draskyll > (2GD) > Tobi > Godz > Epi > Ayesee = Sheever = Blaze

Only listed professional, active DOTA 2 casters.
Co-Commentators excluded

PS : had a tough call on the last 3. Sheever has kinda improved, she certainly is better than when she started out. Only better it is though.
Ayesee, well, meh. He has a great voice and would become a great caster if only he just had more knowledge and overview about the game. Only 1 year of DOTA 2 knowledge is way too less :/
And Blaze - The only reason i watch ThePremierLeague is because of TOM because he's fucking beast and Blaze is kinda like the little, unschooled, annoying shadow of his
Backfire
Tobi > GD guys > BTS > That guy that casts for Neo (Maut) > everyone else
bmin11
Lumi, Tobi, LD, Draskyll, GD (though I think there are multiple people with different teams). I probably have more, but I can think of one.
sanju5
I don't like draskyll, he seems to believe there is only 1 way to play dota with his smug comments when he isn't happy about an item/skill build or hero pick. But once it goes good for that team he just bandwagons them and hypes their item/skill build or hero pick. What really annoys me is when he points out the most obvious faults of an unorthodox pick and acts as if he just dropped the biggest knowledge bomb ever known to man. IMO casters should hype up the match not semi flame players and make retarded comments about the gameplay.
Backfire
I haaaaate draskyll. I love everyone else in GD, but him...I hate him. He looks REALLY fucked up too. Like he does crack every day or something.
dNextGen
calm ur tits guise,EE cast is the best

i dont like ayeese his stream is crap and full of ads,Tobi is nice but the mods on his channel are disgusting,so BTS and GD is the best

http://www.joindota.com/en/matches/6269 ... -fnatic-eu

322 ez life ez solo spam incoming
Xylem Beer
GD > BTS > joinDOTA

I don't really like the mods on jD. Kappa
Icyteru
LuminousInverse forever!

He was the one that got me into osu! after all
druidxd
I don't really even pay attention to mods on streams, I just wanna watch a match, so...

Tobi > all

IMO Tobi is the only one who really manages to display passion on his stream/casting, it's really fun to watch a match casted by Tobi, the other casters are good too, but they are more focused on the technical details and a wider display of information. It's like watching football and comparing South American casters against idk, british casters?



VS



Maybe I like Tobi more because i'm used to the super hype casters, idk.
Magicphoenix
If it's the general, casual cast, I prefer others over Tobi (like i mentioned in my ranking)

But I do agree if it's some great tournament, the grand finals or something at TI3, then Tobi is a MUST.
Nobody brings as much passion into the game as him

PS : Your comparison doesn't work because the british caster got butthurt because Maradona scored against England. And in a fashion like that. Ofc he ain't happy :D
druidxd

Magicphoenix wrote:

If it's the general, casual cast, I prefer others over Tobi (like i mentioned in my ranking)

But I do agree if it's some great tournament, the grand finals or something at TI3, then Tobi is a MUST.
Nobody brings as much passion into the game as him

PS : Your comparison doesn't work because the british caster got butthurt because Maradona scored against England. And in a fashion like that. Ofc he ain't happy :D
Yeah forgot about that, but every time I watch a game of football in english (casted by british mostly), it really lacks passion, a lot, at least compared to the normal casters from here (Argentina). Anyway it's just an opinion.
bmin11

druidxd wrote:

Maybe I like Tobi more because i'm used to the super hype casters, idk.
I have the same issue as well. I'm way used to South Korean commentators on SC1 & LoL.
Tetsu_old
Versuta is the best commentator in my opinion. Russian doto commentator. Especially his rages are epic even at professional games.

Anyway, there isn't any Dota commentator that I would say he is awesome, great blablabla but Luminous is in my opinion the best, has good knowledge of Chinese Dota, LD is also ok. Tobi can be very good if he stop overreacts too much but that's what makes him special I guess.
dNextGen
i love Russian caster who draw dicks on minimap
Tetsu_old
Yao! xD


Magicphoenix
how to advertise LOL
dNextGen
oh wow xiao8's gf is so pretty

Phantom assasin is fun as hell

pop BKB,blink into random enemies and look at those 1k crit ++ D:

fun shit
Magicphoenix
wat.
He actually got together with her? I thought he got rejected and she's only with him out of sympathy? W/E

For everybody who doesn't know this yet :
Magicphoenix
On another note -


Alienware Cup tiebreak rule :
1. Results of match-ups
2. Scores after adding 1 point per 2:0 match
3. Accumulated penalties
4. Result of a mutually agreed tie-breaker
5. Random draw

Those are tie breaker rules that the west needs right now. Not that dipshit "Who won the games faster will win the tiebreaker". Most retarded tiebreaker rule I've ever witnessed in any professional environment for various reasons. I surely don't think I need to elaborate
dNextGen
Zenith doin a good job on savin Na'Vi's pride

also anyone willing to trade The Silent Ripper with my Gloomblade ?

i could add some rares but 1:1 is always more than welcome
Magicphoenix
Alliance 6:0 vs iG, DK, LGD, Orange, TL, TF
NaVi 1:5 vs TF, Zenith, Orange

Level difference ? don't think jet lag is an issue here
dNextGen
lol prove that Navi is just nothing more than a mere tier 2 team

Backfire
Na'Vi is absolute tier 1 great tier.

It has to do with them not really being prepared and probably not studying. Also Alliance did not face TongFu or Zenith, which are two teams with very odd strategies and are VERY good.
Magicphoenix
Honestly, Zenith isn't that much stronger. I'd easily say it's the worst (but still very strong) performing team in the tournament.
Also, that still doesn't justify NaVi simply being worse than Alliance.
While I do believe NaVi still has a shot in this tournament, they surely don't do it in a fashion like the swedes did. Maybe the haven't pulled out their real strategies yet since it was the group phase that didn't decide anything. But I don't think that's the case since I surely don't believe they want to try out that many new things that they take such a beating.
Nevertheless, I still look forward to how they will perform.
Even though I wrote this all, I'm not an Alliance fanboy (I actually think that they play the most boring Dota in the current western scene) and neither a NaVi hater.
I'm just disappointed by the CIS-German mix since they're seriously playing under their maximum level


PS : Zenith still has a good shot though. They can beat most teams when they're in top form but they're not good enough to beat teams like LGD.cn/.int or DK in the same form in my eyes.
Also, from what I've seen in this tournament, Mushi has been more and more disappointing. BTS said it once, 2009 really dislikes Mushi for how he plays and I can only agree on that
Pizzicato
all the great matches and i cant watch a single one because of my ISP :(
dNextGen
wow,feels bad for u mate D:

but its okay,the match in the next hours goin to be boring anyway

prolly classic EG throw and qbad being bad as usual
Mercurial
Kaipi > Fnatic.Eu

Hi community.
Soulclenz
does anyone have the Slithereen Nobility set for Naga they might want to trade? I want to save some money.
Magicphoenix
^I had that item but lost it through betting lol. Shame on me
But I won 16 rares yesterday by consistently betting against NaVi ehuaheuhaeuhaee (fanboys on d2l put the quota higher than it shoulda been)
Only player who is playing on the level they're supposed to is Liquid'Kurok, Dendi has improved finely too but the rest is just meh
dNextGen

Soulclenz wrote:

does anyone have the Slithereen Nobility set for Naga they might want to trade? I want to save some money.
try dota2lounge maybe ? but im pretty sure you gotta spend $$$ too D:

Mercurial wrote:

Kaipi > Fnatic.Eu

Hi community.
Kaipi and Artyk = force to be reckoned with

:)
Soulclenz
Well poo. if I have to buy it I will, then I will have both her sets. Need both since she is my fav!
Soulclenz

dNextGen wrote:

try dota2lounge maybe ? but im pretty sure you gotta spend $$$ too D:
Hrrrrrmmm. I guess i can check that out, too many people make horrible trade offers though! Everyone and their mothers want my dragon hook for pudge, or vintage mace for void, no way in hell i am trading those.

ETA: Frig I didn't want to double post!
dNextGen
oh wow dragonclaw hook,you must be rich mr clenz

i hate buyin The Silent Ripper for 8 bucks

fuck u valve
Pizzicato
http://dota-trade.com/

great place. you can trade the stuff you don't want with the stuff you want :D
Soulclenz

dNextGen wrote:

oh wow dragonclaw hook,you must be rich mr clenz

i hate buyin The Silent Ripper for 8 bucks

fuck u valve
Not rich, just lucky. I also have the Timebreaker for void that someone ripped off of Aion. neither of which im really willing to part with haha.
dNextGen

Pizzicato wrote:

http://dota-trade.com/

great place. you can trade the stuff you don't want with the stuff you want :D
this place is better than d2l D:



lol what a joke that guy is
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