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fartownik

Rantai wrote:

I think you misread what I said.

In simple terms: inactive mafia = why would you do that. It feels too easy. I don't think I mentioned daychat. I didn't mention tactics.

Also, I'd like to point out you didn't answer my question from before and you clearly haven't read the thread if you think my reason "not to vote Pizz" is half assed.

Dodging and failure to read, I smell something here.
Please repeat the question, I must've missed it.

Also you didn't mention daychat, yeah, but I did.

Rantai wrote:

(and retarded on their part).
I was picking to this part. As retarded it might seem, it's still possible. I'm of course still waiting for Pizzicato to say something.
Jinxy
RB is still a little suspicious to me, but reading on, I feel fart brought up a good point about Pizz.

fartownik wrote:

Yeah, this is indeed right. I've noticed it myself. Also after I said to look for scum in my wagon if I get lynched, Pizzicato immediately removed his vote from me without any explanation. COINCIDENCE?!
As for the inactive mafia thing, it's a common fault of a new player as he tries to find something to say but comes up short and lurks instead. It does feel kinda easy, but it's also commonly seen imo
Rantai

Rantai wrote:

fartownik wrote:

you asking him all these questions and cornering him for only believing in my claim is odd.
Elaborate, if you please.
Rantai
Oh iirc, Hika did the same thing. What do you make of that? (in relation to unvote w/o explanation)
Hika
I only unvoted because I should probably not lynch a possible townie so town could win. I didn't say that earlier when I unvoted or something?
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

Elaborate, if you please.
Oh, right. Well, it seemed like you were trying to put him under the wall even more than it's needed. You were basically picking some of his words and twisting them around to make them look like a huge deal. In short, I knew what RB was trying to say, he just couldn't make up the thoughts into words. I thought you should've gotten it too, but you kept asking and asking. That's how I found it odd.
Rantai

Hika wrote:

I only unvoted because I should probably not lynch a possible townie so town could win. I didn't say that earlier when I unvoted or something?
That was much much much later and after the fact the issue was brought up.
Rantai
Uh to elaborate, you didn't provide the explanation until this page.
Rantai

fartownik wrote:

Rantai wrote:

Elaborate, if you please.
Oh, right. Well, it seemed like you were trying to put him under the wall even more than it's needed. You were basically picking some of his words and twisting them around to make them look like a huge deal. In short, I knew what RB was trying to say, he just couldn't make up the thoughts into words. I thought you should've gotten it too, but you kept asking and asking. That's how I found it odd.
The entire point of the questioning was to see if it was a slip up.

That and if people could use english as an excuse to get away with such slip ups, in future games I'm going to claim I have trouble writing down my thoughts.

Edit: Not trying to be mean but I'm not taking those chances.
Raging Bull
I'm fine with you putting suspicions on me (or vote in this case) but I actually do think it out before I try voting.

Besides me, is there anyone else you would choose at this point?
Rantai
Fart or Kayne (to a lesser extent).

Before you ask, I have explained both reasons why.
fartownik
Come on Pizzicato, don't be shy. Tell us what you think about the situation.
Pizzicato
Well one thing i'm sure at is that RB and fart isn't mafia. it's normal for towns to lynch someone who's packing heat ASAP (or u just want to lynch an inactive player ; - ; )
That vote on fart was totally random. I just wanted to see people's reactions. but that backfired hard on my side D:
I unvoted simply because i think he's town
Pizzicato
mafia would try to save a guy-in-heat and lynch them later so they could get more kills

that's what i think
Rantai
What, I don't even.

Most of the time it's the mafia that joins the bandwagon as long as it's not them to make sure the heat is off them, unless something changed over the last year.

My head hurts a lot after reading that.
Kanye West

Pizzicato wrote:

mafia would try to save a guy-in-heat and lynch them later so they could get more kills

that's what i think
I don't think mafia would really care who got lynched D1 as long as they weren't scum.

They'd much rather just lay low and avoid attention.

@Pizzicato: Why do you think farto and RB are town?
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.09

(L-1) Pizzicato (4) - fartownik, Nyquill, Raging Bull, DakeDekaane
Raging Bull (2) - Kanye West, Rantai
Not voting (3) - JInxyjem, Hika, Pizzicato

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch, or 4 votes to No Lynch.

Moderator's Note:
A little less than 10 hours until deadline.
Pizzicato

Kanye West wrote:

@Pizzicato: Why do you think farto and RB are town?
as i've said, town would normally want to lynch a guy-in-heat/highly suspiscious
fartownik
I am certain Pizzicato doesn't know what he's doing right now. The question is if he's a newbie scum or newbie townie.

@Rantai: what's your take on him?
Pizzicato
definitely. xD
fartownik

Pizzicato wrote:

Well one thing i'm sure at is that RB and fart isn't mafia.
Also not sure, but might be a silly scumslip. He's sure of us being town because he's scum himself? :D
Rantai
I can sort of see what he's saying but I still don't grasp it fully.

Either he's scum who's trying to set up some sort of suspicious finger pointing (ie "oh these two are definitely town" with I-don't-know reasoning) for when he gets lynched or he's town who is making very little sense right now.

I am confused.
Rantai
Or he could have just given up and is simply confirming town as a last minute screw you to the mafia.

But that'd be too easy. Oh wait if he's mafia anything is possible <_<

Anyway I'm going to sleep.
fartownik
I feel like he's rather newbie town. If he was scum, his buddy would certainly be pointing fingers at someone else right now. You (Rantai) were the only one I felt is somehow protecting him, but you already explained yourself.

Unvote
Vote: Nyquill


My guts tell me right.
Raging Bull
Pizzicato, do you have anyreads?
Kanye West
fartownik is looking more town to me now. I believe the scum pair of RB/Nyquill or RB/Jinxy is more likely.
Pizzicato

Raging Bull wrote:

Pizzicato, do you have anyreads?
i dont understand orz

kindly spoonfeed me that question
Kanye West
Do you have any ideas as to who is town and who is scum?
Raging Bull

Kanye West wrote:

fartownik is looking more town to me now. I believe the scum pair of RB/Nyquill or RB/Jinxy is more likely.
Just cause i rejected you for prom doesnt mean im a bad person!
Pizzicato
on mafia, nope.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.10

(L-2) Pizzicato (3) - Nyquill, Raging Bull, DakeDekaane
Raging Bull (2) - Kanye West, Rantai
Nyquill (1) - fartownik
Not voting (3) - JInxyjem, Hika, Pizzicato

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch, or 4 votes to No Lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
fartownik
7 hours 'til the deadline. Think up guys.

@RB: Are you gonna stay on Pizzicato?

I'd direct same question to DD/Nyquill, but I have no idea if they will be online next 7 hours.
Raging Bull

fartownik wrote:

7 hours 'til the deadline. Think up guys.

@RB: Are you gonna stay on Pizzicato?

I'd direct same question to DD/Nyquill, but I have no idea if they will be online next 7 hours.

I dug myself in a hole already. If I unvote, Rantai and Jinxyjem would think I'm sheeping. I know I'm town, but I'm also not letting this slip away. Perhaps new player mafia slip?

Pizzicato wrote:

Well one thing i'm sure at is that RB and fart isn't mafia.
I'm kinda convinced Rantai is town for sure at this point. Doing pretty hard to get information on me. Rantai you bully.

I will try my best to post one more time to post before day lynch at work.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Moderator's Note:
4 hours 38 minutes 50 seconds remaining for Day 1
Topic Starter
Sakura
A police officer arrives, asks what decission you guys have made and you hand them Pizzicato who is taken in to prison, a couple of hours later a policeman arrives and says: "We found some evidence in this scum's pocket" and hands you guys something that looks like cold medicine...

Final Vote Count Day 1

Pizzicato (3) - Nyquill, Raging Bull, DakeDekaane
Raging Bull (2) - Kanye West, Rantai
Nyquill (1) - fartownik
Not voting (3) - JInxyjem, Hika, Pizzicato

Pizzicato - Infirmary Student Assistant has been sent to Prison D1

It is now Night 1, Deadline for all actions is June 10th 23:23 (GMT-5)
Topic Starter
Sakura
You all wake up in the classroom and notice that there's one less of you, then you hear a notice from the principal: "Good Morning students, I got you good news, one of you decided to turn in last night, your classmate JInxyjem, keep up the good work!"

JInxyjem - Regular Student has turned in to Prison N1

Vote Count 2.0

Not voting (7) - Hika, fartownik, Kanye West, Rantai, DakeDekaane, Raging Bull, Nyquill

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, or 3 votes to No Lynch.

It is now Day 2, which will end in June 14th 23:23 (GMT-5)
DakeDekaane
Ouch, this guilt.
I couldn't check the last hours, because my power supply made boom.

What was he thinking? Well, that was unfortunate to have our doctor in newbie hands.

Vote: Nyquill
You hurried your vote on him so, yeah, please explain yourself :I
Hika
Okay, so I knew Nyquill's inactivity was going to get to me somehow. This always happens.
Well, I'll actually vote today because I have some leads.

Vote: Nyquill
Raging Bull
Wow. I'm wondering why Pizzicato did not claim PR or anything to save himself.

@Kanye, why do you still think I'm scum? Is it really just because I defended fart?


Also little curious on DD's final vote on Pizzicato. Fart's thought were thinking Pizzicato is newbie player and wouldn't make an easy mistake, but still decided to sheep him.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 2.01

(L-2) Nyquill (2) - DakeDekaane, Hika
Not voting (5) - fartownik, Kanye West, Rantai, Raging Bull, Nyquill

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, or 3 votes to No Lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes
DakeDekaane
Silly Bully, you should read more carefully, fartownik said that hours after I voted Pizzicato, and don't want to repeat myself about why I couldn't post here.
Raging Bull
ISOs are gay.

God damn. Okay.
DakeDekaane
RB, what do you think about Nyquill?
Raging Bull
You know how I feel about inactive.

Prod Nyquill

I felt like he wanted Pizzicato lynched more than I do despite the fact the whole Rantai and I thing happening. He seemed to have ignored the entire discussion on it.
DakeDekaane
You're really eager don't you Bully? Not even 6 hours after the day began and you're asking a prod? Hehe.
Raging Bull
He hasn't posted in 2 days + 24 hours.
fartownik
Vote: Nyquill
DakeDekaane
Dat edit.

Aren't you hurrying to much?
Rantai

Hika wrote:

Well, I'll actually vote today because I have some leads.
Softclaim? Or is there some other reason.

--

Also damn it, a doctor of all roles. Mafia rarely make it that obvious.

Let's see though, I'm now more inclined to believe that there is a high chance at least 1 scum was on that bandwagon (possibly both but I can only speculate). Given different circumstances I would have thought it reasonable 1 was on the bandwagon and 1 was lying low. However given that Jinxy and Pizz are dead and I am leaning Hika as town (tentatively at this moment) that doesn't really leave much to that theory.

Leaving fart, Kayne, RB, DD and Nyquill.

- Nyquill

He was hard on Pizz's heels for the majority of the day, had very little to say but stayed off the inactive radar for the most part. I'm not comfortable with him at the moment and if my assumption is correct (to elaborate later), is leaning scum right now. (if not, null)

- RB

Was also on Pizz's bandwagon for reasons I feel were too convenient (ie he's inactive). I've said I'll wanted to say on the last day, he's still high on my scum list.

- DD

I just realised he has a lot of fluff posts. However it did feel like he was at least trying to get some discussion going at places but his vote on Pizz was somewhat bizarre (points out 3 other scummy people, decided to vote Pizz on an agreeance?) but seeing as his psu story seems to be consistent I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

- fart

Looking back and given that we have more information today, I'm putting him down on my suspicion list because the only thing I had on him was a somewhat scummy blanket statement. The rest of his play seems more or less neutral. His backing off of Pizz seems more town than scum at this point though (up for speculation)

- Kayne

Completely null now. Despite his low flying earlier, he has mentioned several points that make sense/I agree with.

--

What I find the most interesting right now is why was Jinxy of all people shot.
Rantai
And holy quick votes people.
Hika
It's just that I feel that inactivity is something that has always bothered me. I can't risk scum to just be hiding there, getting away with everything. I can't think of Nyquill as town either just because of the way he's playing.

I can see that Rantai is leaning town as well as farto because I'm gonna have to believe his claim. Still not risking lynching possible townies. DD, Kanye and RB are pretty much null at this point. Am I forgetting anyone? Because they might as well be null too.
fartownik
Unvote

Gonna unvote for now, he's at L-1, not ready for a random hammer.
Raging Bull

Hika wrote:

Okay, so I knew Nyquill's inactivity was going to get to me somehow. This always happens.
Well, I'll actually vote today because I have some leads.

Vote: Nyquill

And what leads do you have that made you vote for Nyquill?


@Nyquill, What do you think about the Pizzicato lynch? And how about Rantai and I?

@Rantai, I already gave you my reasons. Maybe they weren't good enough for you because of how too convenient it was. I answered everything you gave me all because of my one comment of this game's inactivity on D1
fartownik
Waiting only for Nyquill to talk. Hope he comes here soon.
Hika
Still that inactivity, Raging Fgt.
Raging Bull
Sorry but when you say leads, I assume information, not just inactivity.
Hika
ahh, well then no I have no leads besides gut feeling because no one is slipping or anything
scum must be really hiding this time
Rantai
Oh that throws my assumption out the window.
Topic Starter
Sakura

Raging Bull wrote:

Prod Nyquill
He still has about 3 hours until he can be prodded as of this post (weekends count as half time, and night times dont count).

Vote Count 2.01

(L-2) Nyquill (2) - DakeDekaane, Hika
Not voting (5) - fartownik, Kanye West, Rantai, Raging Bull, Nyquill

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, or 3 votes to No Lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Nyquill

DakeDekaane wrote:

Vote: Nyquill
You hurried your vote on him so, yeah, please explain yourself :I
That is very silly. I was placing a vote on someone I felt that was scum and posted thoroughly my reasons for doing so. How is that even "hurrying".

Raging Bull wrote:

@Nyquill, What do you think about the Pizzicato lynch? And how about Rantai and I?
If he can't even defend himself from a D1 lynch initiative, then clearly it would write him scum all over.

I highly doubt either you or rantai are scum, considering you are both on top of your arguments in such a way that no one else is right now (you're doing more than pizzicato at any rate).
fartownik
Fine then.
Vote: Nyquill
DakeDekaane
So Nyquill, aren't you missing something? like reading what was posted while your absent time here? :I

What do you think about RB and Hika?
Rantai
Actually, I'm curious. Everyone state which 2 people you think are most likely mafia at the moment.

I've got RB and Nyquill for me.
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

Actually, I'm curious. Everyone state which 2 people you think are most likely mafia at the moment.

I've got RB and Nyquill for me.
Nyquill or Kanye West.
Kanye West
Same as my suspicions on D1. RB and Nyquill. Won't hammer until further discussion.
fartownik

Kanye West wrote:

Same as my suspicions on D1. RB and Nyquill. Won't hammer until further discussion.
Nyquill was your suspect D1? Where did you state that?
fartownik
If he was truly your suspect you would explain why. And if you explained why you wouldn't be afraid to hammer him.
Kanye West

Kanye West wrote:

fartownik is looking more town to me now. I believe the scum pair of RB/Nyquill or RB/Jinxy is more likely.
Kanye West
And I'm not hammering him because some people haven't posted today yet and Nyquill should get a chance to clear himself.
Kanye West
But, I'm definitely not "afriaid" to hammer him.
fartownik

Kanye West wrote:

But, I'm definitely not "afriaid" to hammer him.
Nyquill already posted today, nothing new, barely commented our suspicion on him.

And yes, you are afraid. If you wasn't you would have hammered him already.
Kanye West
Okay so now I feel like you're baiting me to lynch a townie.
Rantai
Da faq fart. Egging on a quick lynch is highly suspicious no matter how confident you are about it.

And please no hammering, we only have 1 safe lynch left and I want to see the whole picture first.
fartownik
But you said yourself Nyquill looks scummy to you. I'm not baiting you, I'm asking why you don't vote him when you think he's scum.
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

Da faq fart. Egging on a quick lynch is highly suspicious no matter how confident you are about it.

And please no hammering, we only have 1 safe lynch left and I want to see the whole picture first.
Seeing Nyquill's alignment is important for me to move on with my speculations.
Kanye West
Because it's L-1, and not hitting mafia today is really bad?
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

Da faq fart. Egging on a quick lynch is highly suspicious no matter how confident you are about it.

And please no hammering, we only have 1 safe lynch left and I want to see the whole picture first.
And sorry, but what's there to wait for? Everyone has spoken today already, explaining their view. If you think arguments to lynch someone else will jump out from everyone's sleeves then you're wrong.
Rantai
What difference does it make if he is lynched now or after some lengthy discussion?

The answer: It suppresses town deliberation, reducing our chance to find the scum. We need all the time we can get. His alignment won't change over the next however many hours.

And if he is town, that brings us to Ly-lo, hardly a situation we want to be in.
DakeDekaane
Unvote
Don't want fart convinces someone to hammer, or a surprise hammer, I'll do it personally.

fartownik, you're as desperate as Nyquill was with Pizzicato, that's not good imo.

(I'd suggest go with a safer lynch and vote RB as many of us agree with that he's scum.)
Rantai
Answer the question DD.
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

What difference does it make if he is lynched now or after some lengthy discussion?
None. It's just faster.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Don't want fart convinces someone to hammer, or a surprise hammer, I'll do it personally.
So you still want him lynched?
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 2.02

(L-2) Nyquill (2) - Hika, fartownik
Not voting (5) - Kanye West, Rantai, Raging Bull, Nyquill, DakeDekaane

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, or 3 votes to No Lynch.

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
Rantai
And, pray tell, who benefits from a faster day/lynch?
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

And, pray tell, who benefits from a faster day/lynch?
Probably scum if he's sure that the person is town.
And me because I'm impatient.

I guess I should be more patient. Probably already leaning scum for you because of this.

Meh, if you have something to discuss, bring it on. Ask some questions to the people you want to hear something from. Anything at all that would start the discussion you want.
Rantai
So you concede that scum/you benefit from a fast day. Interesting claim.

And now you're suspicious of me due to a completely illogical train of thought.

And I have a question I want answered by all players, if you forgot about that.
Nyquill

DakeDekaane wrote:

So Nyquill, aren't you missing something? like reading what was posted while your absent time here? :I

What do you think about RB and Hika?
I did read? I don't think I missed anything, I'll say what I think about hika in a bit.

There is a difference between lurking and only being able to post at certain periods of time, and I think some of you forget that.

I didn't deliberately "ignore" RB and Rantai, I simply didn't think either of them were scum, or more scummy than pizzicato day 1 for that matter.

And fartownik, you're very funny, considering you basically want to place town on LYLO on D3 with TWO MAFIA with little to no discussion.

As of right now, Fartownik is the most anti-town to me, I can't tell if its just because he's being really bad at decision making.

DakaDakaane: You mistake desperation with wanting to lynch the most possible scum on town.

I actually think that one of our nulls, Kanye West or Hika is more likely scum. Dakadakaane is doing enough scum hunting to make me think that he's good for now. Reading through Kanye's ISOs make me really concerned about what he is actually contributing to town, or rather the lack of it.

I still don't understand why you people think I'm scum for voting for who I think is most scummy with reasons YOU YOURSELVES agreed to and stayed on the wagon I CREATED.
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

And now you're suspicious of me due to a completely illogical train of thought.
Is this a typo? Because I'm not suspicious of you.
Rantai

fartownik wrote:

Probably already leaning scum for you because of this. .
Did I misunderstand this sentence?

I took it as "I think you're scum because of this"

Or are you saying "You probably think I am scum for this"?
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Or are you saying "You probably think I am scum for this"?
^
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

Or are you saying "You probably think I am scum for this"?
^
Rantai
Oh ok. My mistake then. It's 8 am, no sleep. I demand some slack!

I take it you suspect Kayne and Fart then Nyquill?
Nyquill

Rantai wrote:

Oh ok. My mistake then. It's 8 am, no sleep. I demand some slack!

I take it you suspect Kayne and Fart then Nyquill?
More likely Kanye than Fart.
DakeDekaane

Rantai wrote:

What difference does it make if he is lynched now or after some lengthy discussion?
Was this Rantai? If yes, it does, and a lot, added to the lot of info we can gather, we can limit the movement of scum at night.

btw fart, are you the Cop? If you're not scum, I can't see another reason for trying to lynch Nyquill as fast as possible, I still don't trust your claim. You are making look Nyquill town to me thanks to your scummy actions, and yes, I still want to lynch him, but we have plenty of time to find what are you planning fart.
Rantai
Answer the question DD.

Still want to see yours, Hika and RB's.
DakeDekaane
Your making Nyquill look town*
Rantai
Oh and incase it got lost somewhere;

Actually, I'm curious. Everyone state which 2 people you think are most likely mafia at the moment.
Raging Bull
DD/Nyquill

I'm really curious on DD's reason on why he has to hammer the person being voted on. It's like he uses that as an excuse to not look scummy when he hammers.

Nyquill looked pretty scummy to me, but I say he's currently on my suspect. He parked his vote on Pizzicato and (I assume) he was probably on (at least once )when Pizzicato started posting to question him on anything.
Raging Bull

Rantai wrote:

Answer the question DD.

Still want to see yours, Hika and RB's.

Sorry, just woke up D:
fartownik
Fine. I will explain why I wanted Nyquill lynched. I wanted to avoid it, but don't have a choice already.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Ouch, this guilt.
I couldn't check the last hours, because my power supply made boom.

What was he thinking? Well, that was unfortunate to have our doctor in newbie hands.

Vote: Nyquill
You hurried your vote on him so, yeah, please explain yourself :I
Seemed like an obvious breadcrumb to me. The word guilt along with an insta-vote on Nyquill convinced me.

If we lynched Nyquill and he turned town, Dake would be most likely scum because of a fake breadcrumb.

Right now I'm starting to think it really was a fake breadcrumb, and Dake has just back off (unvoting Nyquill) because he smelled I'm the only one that noticed it and I might use it next day.

My real suspects were not Kanye and Nyquill, but Kanye and Nyquill OR Dake.
Nyquill

Raging Bull wrote:

He parked his vote on Pizzicato and (I assume) he was probably on (at least once )when Pizzicato started posting to question him on anything.
For the record: I was not in a position to read/answer.
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