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Grant Kirkhope - Angry Aztec

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YoshiKart
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Grant Kirkhope and Eveline Fischer are the main composers of DK64 (although I think Fischer was just a secondary composer?). I think this is one of the first DK games where David Wise wasn't the composer. o_O

EDIT: Don't forget to NOT kudosu me.
tieff
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[Normal]
00:06:53 (1,2) - Jump on normal?

[Hard]
00:07:62 (7,8) - Whistles?
00:16:35 (7,8) - ^
01:27:94 (6) - Nazi. Left a bit. Like here 01:27:26 (2,3,4).

[KIRBY Mix]
All cool.

Pretty good map, have a star.
YoshiKart
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Here's my diff. Quite the streamer, and the difficulty is smack between Hard and KIRBY Mix. :)

By the way, wait for my storyboard. :D
Oh, and change the thread title too. xD

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Angry Aztec (James2250) [YOSHI Mix].osu
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Derekku
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Hmmm.... I dunno if I'm just crazy but could you please do a re-full submission? On the BSS page, it only shows Kirby's difficulty, even though downloading the map gives all three. ???

[KIRBY Mix]
00:53:16 (7) - I thought sliders like this were unrankable... (unless they're only allowed on higher difficulties and aren't too ridiculous?)
James2250
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yes I am well aware on the BSS page it just shows kirby ,I have tried FULL sub many many times, it wont fix it I dont see it as a major problem apart from it being slightly annoying............any suggestions to fix it are welcome though

**[KIRBY Mix]**
00:53:16 (7) I have asked kirby to fix this he said it might be allowed rawr.......bug him :)
YoshiKart
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[Hard]

00:54:26 (4) - Extend the slider to 00:54:669 and then adjust spacing if necessary.


[Things I know people will complain about in my diff.]

00:45:53 (1,2,3,4) - They're vertically spaced by pitch. Don't touch. :(


And James got my combobursts and other skin elements, I assume. :)
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OniLink
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Awesome map! I find all the diffs great!

Star!
Zerostarry
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Zerostarry
[Hard]
00:12:26 (7) - Whistle seems out of place, there are more notes like this but im too lazy to mention em

I'd like to see less claps and more whistles in James' difficulties

Anyone who has heard me bitching about Strangeprogram knows I hate strobes, but theres only 1 in Yoshi's difficulty so whatever

Kirbyorz' is fine
YoshiKart
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James2250
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you want to use an entirely new mp3 this late into it mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I suppose if it bugs you that much I just hope its not too much work for me :P
Gens
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Okay I need to mod this once and for all

...

Everytime I try to download the download is corrupt. I dunno what the hell is goin' on.
I can't mod this, but from the previous comments I can tell it's a pretty good beatmap. I'm going to star this anyway ;)
James2250
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YoshiKart
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Behind the scenes work:
- new mp3 (miniUSF > emulator recordings)
- original music runs a little bit slower: new offset and BPM (co-op'd with James in a "resnap then shifting" heck)


Updated my diff and Kirby's diff with the new offset/BPM. James will full upload.
Yay for better mp3. Mission accomplished. :)

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Angry Aztec (James2250) [KIRBY Mix].osu

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Angry Aztec (James2250) [YOSHI Mix].osu
HolyBoy
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Normal

00:08:212 (3 ), move note slightly higher
00:30:746 (4 ), move slider down then change the rest
00:46:389 (4 ), Move slider slightly down
01:02:769 (1 ), move it to the right, as it is not in line with 01:02:243 (5 )

Hard

00:17:446 (8 ), move it slightly to the right then distance snap the rest
00:27:171 (1 ), move it higher then distance snap the rest of the combo
kingcobra52
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-Assuming those are the combo bursts I'm hearing (I have it disabled), I'd definitely either lower the volume on those or raise the volume of the actual song.

Hard

00:51:66 (12) - Either a new combo here or at 00:52:77 (15). (or possibly both)
01:30:89 (10) - Would it look better aligned with 8?

Kirby

x2 warning would be nice, but it's fine either way.

Yoshi

02:11:36 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - I think you need 1 more note between the first 1 and 2, then shift everything over.

Starz.
Andrea
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[Normal]

Lower volume by 1 or 2 tick, please.

01:27:27 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Hard to read for a normal, imo.

[Hard]

Lower volume too..

01:09:74 (2) - I love this slider XD

[YOSHI Mix]

Too much copy and paste imo T_T

00:20:23 (1) - Too close from 00:19:67 (8)
00:38:03 (1) - ^ Etc.
01:17:95 (15,1) - Hard to read this jump.
01:26:85 (15,1) - ^ Etc.

[KIRBY Mix]

01:15:86 (1) - You need SB warning for 2x bpm.
James2250
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volume was lower until kingcobra told me to make it higher x_x guess I should just lower volume on combo bursts.
CaptainFlameGuy
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Is it just me or is the volume of the song itself a bit.. Soft compared to the hit sounds?
James2250
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*mutters* every time I change the volume someone else says to change it to something else x_______x I will look at it again and see>_>
YoshiKart
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I'll get my changes to you by Saturday at the most. D:

EDIT: Doing it now. Hi, James.
EDIT2: Done. James got it I think?

And I don't think the stuff said about my diff. is a big deal. I want to keep the symmetry.
YoshiKart
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Here's the storyboard!

http://up.ppy.sh/files/anotheroneforjames.zip

Derived from my storyboards that I have given for Zerostarry's Battle Arena and James2250's DK vs Dogadon maps. Hopefully the storyboard specific elements didn't kill me in all that notepad++ tab switching. :P
James2250
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thanks for all the hard work yoshikart :)

however all the diff's show our names except your one? will have to ask you when your next on osu..
YoshiKart
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Updating from the site shows that you somehow erased the SB code in my difficulty. o.o

Put this in...

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Angry Aztec (James2250) [YOSHI Mix].osu
James2250
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YoshiKart wrote:

Updating from the site shows that you somehow erased the SB code in my difficulty. o.o

Put this in...
fixed :P
YoshiKart
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Oy!

http://up.ppy.sh/files/anotheroneforjames2.zip
James2250
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*updated*
mrtn
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James2250
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^ all fixed :P
Yoshi348
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Normal and Hard are a little too "straight lines" at times, Normal especially. Compare them with the mixes and you can really tell. Just having more rounded beats would improve things a lot.

In YOSHI Mix I'd recommend bumping the approach speed up a bit, as the screen gets really crowded with beats at this speed making things hard to read in an annoying way.

KIRBY Mix... the slider at #7 at 54:726 is just... ugh. I don't even think that's rankable and it doesn't seem natural at all. Ditch it. Also, the break REALLY needs a "x2 slider speed" message or something.

The storyboarding is adorable. I'm going to hold off on starring for now because there are some serious issues but this can definitely turn out good fast.
James2250
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YoshiKart
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Thanks for the SB compliment. :)

For my diff., go ahead and bump up the difficulty by 1; I don't mind.
Kirby specifically said he doesn't want to change that "unrankable" slider. xD
James2250
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Yoshi348 wrote:

Normal and Hard are a little too "straight lines" at times, Normal especially. Compare them with the mixes and you can really tell. Just having more rounded beats would improve things a lot. I think this is more of a style issue.. and I always do straight lines

In YOSHI Mix I'd recommend bumping the approach speed up a bit, as the screen gets really crowded with beats at this speed making things hard to read in an annoying way. fixed

KIRBY Mix... the slider at #7 at 54:726 is just... ugh. I don't even think that's rankable and it doesn't seem natural at all. Ditch it. Also, the break REALLY needs a "x2 slider speed" message or something. kirby doesnt want to change that slider..meh. and as for the x2 I believe there is quite a good warning there already and doesnt really need anything else

The storyboarding is adorable. I'm going to hold off on starring for now because there are some serious issues but this can definitely turn out good fast.
YoshiKart
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I guess I'll storyboard a 2x BPM warning. It won't look forced! :)
James2250
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YoshiKart
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IRC PM me again when I'm online. It seems saving in the editor kills the horizontal flips in the SB. D:
viewtopic.php?p=196407#p196407
I need a way for you to upload it without the editor saving for you. I'll lead you into the process when you PM me. xD
I think I found a "fix". Just use the files in my last two posts.
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eee
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James2250 wrote:

I know that Yoshikarts offset is different than the other 3
(he used a different mp3 or something, go bug him about it) :P

do not complain about offsets not being the same when modding!
Kirby's offset is the same as YoshiKart's yet different than that of yours.
if I see it right. The mp3 used in Kirby's is the same as yours. That being said, Kirby's offset is in fact, different.
fix this and that's it. I tried to find more but I couldn't find anything but that offset.

The breaks in Yoshi's end slightly early and the ones in [Hard] and [Normal] begin too early. fix those as well.

other than that, this map is perfect by eee. STAR!!!
James2250
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oh I forgot to change kirbys offset? zzzzzzz will do it later :P
James2250
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YoshiKart wrote:

IRC PM me again when I'm online. It seems saving in the editor kills the horizontal flips in the SB. D:
viewtopic.php?p=196407#p196407

I need a way for you to upload it without the editor saving for you. I'll lead you into the process when you PM me. xD
changed offset on kirbys (thanks eee) now just to wait for yoshikart to come on osu..
YoshiKart
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EDIT: Don't post after me yet.
EDIT2: Wait till the weekend. Sooo sorry I don't have the fix done yet. D:
EDIT3: I think this'll work without James2250 fooling around with notepad.

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Angry Aztec (James2250) [YOSHI Mix].osu

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Angry Aztec (James2250) [KIRBY Mix].osu

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Angry Aztec (James2250) [Hard].osu
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Yoshi348
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Oh, sorry about the unrankable comment, I didn't really understand the slider rules before.
YoshiKart
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See the last of my post for the other three.

By the way, James, you can correct the timing and resnap without changing the SB on save. Don't worry about the SB (hopefully). :P

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Angry Aztec (James2250) [Normal].osu
James2250
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uploaded but one of the characters on kirby mix walking backwards (no I didnt save when I saw this)

also on yoshikart's the sb goes beyond the break, did you mean to do that?
YoshiKart
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Yeah, I meant to do that.
Fixing Kirby's backwards issue I mislooked. >_>
EDIT: Doneeeeeeeee~

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Angry Aztec (James2250) [KIRBY Mix].osu
James2250
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ooooooooooook
after more sb problems than I expected.. I believe everything is FIXED
*goes to find bat* :)
Doomsday
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Blue = design/minor issues. you do not have to change these if you don't want to
Orange = moderate issues. it would be best if you change these, but you may be able to get away with not changing it
Red = major issues. you need to change these

offset: 4, 682 (a little earlier. it felt better for me, but it might not for you, i dunno)

nice little SB you have there too

[NORMAL]

looks fine to me

[HARD]

no problems here. all distance snapped so you can't go too far wrong i guess

[YOSHI MIX]

turn overall diff up by a notch? it feels like the notes fade in too slow

01:17:95 (15,1) - after that stream, even a little jump 1/4 away like this can be annoying. mind closing this gap up a bit?
01:26:85 (15,1) - ^
02:09:14 (8,1) - ^

[KIRBY MIX]

its all good

nice map. i quite like the song too actually.

star'd
James2250
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all fixed apart from 02:09:14 (8,1) (its not too bad)

offset on yoshi's not changed (as he gave me that saying his mp3 was slightly different)
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whymeman
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Remember, some of the errors posted are suggestions, not directions. Edit to what you see fit.

Non-Detailed Modding v.1.0 Go~


[YOSHI Mix]

00:22:64 (B) - Delete and replace break.
00:46:93 (1,2,3,4) - (1) and (2) connects, but then the other two sliders don't. Was this intentional?
01:07:17 (B) - Delete and replace break.
01:20:31 (1,2) - (1) doesn't seem to line up with (2) and along with the rest of the notes after.
01:24:77 (1,2) - ^
01:30:61 (10) - This repeating slider doesn't sound right spamming the clap hitsound.
01:33:86 (B) - Delete and replace break.
01:51:61 (B) - ^
02:09:28 (1,2) - (1) doesn't seem to line up with (2) and along with the rest of the notes after.
02:11:64 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This part sounds really odd and hard to read when coming off from the previous stream. Did you try testing the notes in 1/2 to see if it sounds better?
02:16:09 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This section also sounds odd. Make sure it makes sense with the beats.

[KIRBY Mix]

00:54:75 (7) - A slider overlapping itself? Not sure if that is rankable...
01:07:27 (B) - Delete and replace break.
That speed up section is deadly O.o

Overall: The map looks good so far. I like the little popups that appear in the map. Just need to look into the issues and then forum PM me when its done. I'll check it again and see if it can be bubbled. Also, don't forget to make sure the Tags are the same for all difficulties.
James2250
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whymeman
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[KIRBY Mix]

01:33:70 - Forgot to turn the kiai off here? Just pointing that out.

But the rest of the difficulties seem okay so far though i'm still wondering about that slider....
James2250
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fixed
(and changed that slider) *hides from kirby*
whymeman
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Looks good now as far as I can see. Bubbled.
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Ranked~
YoshiKart
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Why is my difficulty awkward at the end? The upbeat notes aren't on the... upbeat. >_>

whymeman wrote:

02:11:64 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This part sounds really odd and hard to read when coming off from the previous stream. Did you try testing the notes in 1/2 to see if it sounds better?
02:16:09 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This section also sounds odd. Make sure it makes sense with the beats.
Can I please request an unrank? I want this changed back. The end is really awkward when the notes are on the downbeat. Listen to that... flute-sounding instrument in the background.

EDIT: Other nitpicks - In Kirby's diff. the loop type for the cannon animation isn't LoopOnce anymore... In Hard, Diddy isn't facing left? Normal... Link is walking backwards at 01:13:673. o_O I think saving in editor changed the SB... again.
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James2250
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YoshiKart wrote:

Why is my difficulty awkward at the end? The upbeat notes aren't on the... upbeat. >_>

whymeman wrote:

02:11:64 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This part sounds really odd and hard to read when coming off from the previous stream. Did you try testing the notes in 1/2 to see if it sounds better?
02:16:09 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This section also sounds odd. Make sure it makes sense with the beats.
Can I please request an unrank? I want this changed back. The end is really awkward when the notes are on the downbeat. Listen to that... flute-sounding instrument in the background.
you are requesting an unrank without asking me? :P
Edit: wtf is with random sb errors!!!!!!!!!------------meh no errors really affect playing they are just slightly annoying (goes back to Yoshi lecturing me about it :P )
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James2250
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if you saw it when u were modding then........................*rage*
fine I guess it can be unranked (Yoshi and his OCD)...
WyndII
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oh man.
James2250
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**once YoshiKart fixes his ending to how "he" wants it...I can get reranked**
YoshiKart
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Kirby's sfx is destroyed as well. D:
WyndII
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oh and the mp3 file is sooooooo soooft.
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Silly heart.
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*ready to be modded again after forever*
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Normal
00:31:666 (5) - Make this a part of the next combo
01:15:898 (1), 01:20:349 (1), 01:24:800 (1) - Notes directly after spinners are a little bit challenging for the easiest difficulty, I would suggest ending these 1/1 earlier, and then adding a hitcircle where they ended before.

Hard
00:14:557 (x) - It plays better with the gap filled in imo
00:16:783 (x) - ^

Yoshi
I love this diff :)

Kirby
01:18:124 (1) [and the next spinner] I would move this forward 1/4 and either add another repeat or a hitcircle, I think an audible beat on the white tick would sound good.
01:25:217 (2,4,6,8) [and the next pattern] - The claps on the blue ticks don't sound great and actually make this part more confusing to play, since in the previous combo the claps were on the white ticks. I would revise the hitsounds in this part.

Great mapset, I'll p-bubble after these changes are addressed.

EDIT: Have a pubble :)
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Starred.
Larto
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The .osb was uhhhhh bad, it had a lot of inaccuracies. The intro looks very bad if you look closely :(
I fixed that.
Also there was an awkward "beep" at the end of krool.wav.
Fixed that too.

About the two mp3s, why didn't you guys just take the long mp3? I mean, there is no difference between the long and the short one except the length, right..?

Storyboard:
Kirby:
Good

Yoshi:
Good

Hard:
Good

Normal:
00:49:748 - Can you please kill the easing for links walking animation? It just looks extremely strange. To be blunt, the sprite itself looks extremely strange... Might want to take one from the 2D Zelda games? Like these ones http://www.sonicstrike.net/~chao-civic/ ... nkRip2.gif
01:13:673 - ^


Map:
Kirby:
Good

Yoshi:
01:51:476 - Why isn't there a note here? Feels kinda... awkward.
02:11:367 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Dear lord, is this intended, that pattern sounds so bad :<
02:15:818 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^

Hard:
01:05:332 - This.. break.. why is it there?! It just doesn't look like it belongs here. Move it somewhere else, please. If you need to fix the storyboard to do so, I'll gladly do it.

Normal:
00:52:808 (1,2,3) - I suggest removing those circles. Not extremely important though.

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Angry Aztec (James2250).osb

Download: krool.rar because the extension wav is not allowed.rar
James2250
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thanks for all of the work larto
will get around to fixing all this later

**going to leave this in graveyard as it has had too many storyboard problems in general** if i ever learn how to sb I will revive it
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