'K, I am going to try this out now, and see how this goes. What is this, you ask?
See, I have been getting annoyed lately at some maps, and thought, "what if I could just say what I didn't like in general, but also point out the things I did like, and make it easier to understand than a long ass list?"
Basically, it's more constructive criticism and less pointing out actual errors. In most cases, the mappers should be able to fix what is said in the "Cons" section if they care enough and aren't lazy. Specific things can be pointed out if need be.
Current modding is mostly.... lemme grab a random map as an example, ah, here's a Ranked map I didn't like very much:
Normal:
00:20:19 (4,5) - 3 doesn't overlap 4, but 4 overlaps 5. This is sloppy and noticeable.
00:21:28 (6) - ^
00:34:55 (3,4,5) - This part feels weird and doesn't go well to the music
01:01:46 (4,5,6) - Too hard for a Normal
Hard:
00:24:74 (1,2,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1) - AAAAAH random New Combo markers! Fix please
00:27:65 (1,2,3) - 3 feels weird and doesn't go to the music.
00:28:55 (1,1,1,1) - Here you go with random New Combo markers again!
00:32:55 (1,2,3,4) - Uneven stacking AAAAAAH
Etc.
Now, here's how pro-cons would go for this particular map:
Normal:
Pros:
-Nice use of rhythm overall
-It flowed well
-The spacing was almost perfect, could've used slightly further spacing for the 1/2s, but it worked
Cons:
-Too many repeats, especially short repeat sliders. I would recommend cutting those down.
-Some 1/2s slightly overlap while others don't. This looks sloppy overall.
-01:05:10 (1,2,3) - Doesn't really play well. It does look pretty, though. This happens a few times in your map. I would keep the overall patterns, but change the timing of the notes.
Hard:
Pros:
-Map is pretty fun, it has a nice rhythm.
-It flows well for the most part, rough in a few places.
-Nice patterns!
-I really liked parts like 01:05:10 (1,2,3,4,1,1,1,2) which had unconventional rhythms that still played well and were as fun as hell.
Cons:
-Many of the New Combos feel a bit random.
-There's some uneven stacking going on. This is annoying for many players because it can be hard to read, and punishes the player for simply tapping one too many times in a row.
-Some of the 1/4s don't feel weird to me.
-There was a lot of slider overlap.
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So, what's the difference?
First, Pro-Con has the Pros, which current modding usually lacks, except for the "good map overall, etc." generic statements I see too often and am guilty of. The Pros are usually in some detail, and are very useful for the mapper, since they know what they did right (I wish I knew what I did right and should do in the future D:).
As for Cons? It can be easier for some people to read this and understand this, and is in a way that's straight to the point, informative, and not as overwhelming. I also find it easier to comprehend then a longass list that seems like it's out to violate me and ruin my life.
I'm going to see how this goes. If anyone wants to help test this, be my guest. It may work, it may not.
Main reason I'm trying it out is that it allows me to cover more easier, Pros can help people's self-esteem and soften the blow for the Cons, and could potentially feel a lot less like I'm after them and trying to ruin their life. I think it could be more informative. Also allows me to post technically correct things I didn't like without feeling like an ass.
Of course, if it doesn't work, I'll ditch it, but I doubt that'll be the case.
Testing now, let's see if it works. ~
See, I have been getting annoyed lately at some maps, and thought, "what if I could just say what I didn't like in general, but also point out the things I did like, and make it easier to understand than a long ass list?"
Basically, it's more constructive criticism and less pointing out actual errors. In most cases, the mappers should be able to fix what is said in the "Cons" section if they care enough and aren't lazy. Specific things can be pointed out if need be.
Current modding is mostly.... lemme grab a random map as an example, ah, here's a Ranked map I didn't like very much:
Normal:
00:20:19 (4,5) - 3 doesn't overlap 4, but 4 overlaps 5. This is sloppy and noticeable.
00:21:28 (6) - ^
00:34:55 (3,4,5) - This part feels weird and doesn't go well to the music
01:01:46 (4,5,6) - Too hard for a Normal
Hard:
00:24:74 (1,2,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1) - AAAAAH random New Combo markers! Fix please
00:27:65 (1,2,3) - 3 feels weird and doesn't go to the music.
00:28:55 (1,1,1,1) - Here you go with random New Combo markers again!
00:32:55 (1,2,3,4) - Uneven stacking AAAAAAH
Etc.
Now, here's how pro-cons would go for this particular map:
Normal:
Pros:
-Nice use of rhythm overall
-It flowed well
-The spacing was almost perfect, could've used slightly further spacing for the 1/2s, but it worked
Cons:
-Too many repeats, especially short repeat sliders. I would recommend cutting those down.
-Some 1/2s slightly overlap while others don't. This looks sloppy overall.
-01:05:10 (1,2,3) - Doesn't really play well. It does look pretty, though. This happens a few times in your map. I would keep the overall patterns, but change the timing of the notes.
Hard:
Pros:
-Map is pretty fun, it has a nice rhythm.
-It flows well for the most part, rough in a few places.
-Nice patterns!
-I really liked parts like 01:05:10 (1,2,3,4,1,1,1,2) which had unconventional rhythms that still played well and were as fun as hell.
Cons:
-Many of the New Combos feel a bit random.
-There's some uneven stacking going on. This is annoying for many players because it can be hard to read, and punishes the player for simply tapping one too many times in a row.
-Some of the 1/4s don't feel weird to me.
-There was a lot of slider overlap.
---------
So, what's the difference?
First, Pro-Con has the Pros, which current modding usually lacks, except for the "good map overall, etc." generic statements I see too often and am guilty of. The Pros are usually in some detail, and are very useful for the mapper, since they know what they did right (I wish I knew what I did right and should do in the future D:).
As for Cons? It can be easier for some people to read this and understand this, and is in a way that's straight to the point, informative, and not as overwhelming. I also find it easier to comprehend then a longass list that seems like it's out to violate me and ruin my life.
I'm going to see how this goes. If anyone wants to help test this, be my guest. It may work, it may not.
Main reason I'm trying it out is that it allows me to cover more easier, Pros can help people's self-esteem and soften the blow for the Cons, and could potentially feel a lot less like I'm after them and trying to ruin their life. I think it could be more informative. Also allows me to post technically correct things I didn't like without feeling like an ass.
Of course, if it doesn't work, I'll ditch it, but I doubt that'll be the case.
Testing now, let's see if it works. ~