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This is one of my favourite update EVER!!!!!!!
Kinda like it that way it separates the menu pink from the bg's pink... Saturation fixes all XDpeppy wrote:
So pink... so bright...
Something I wanted to ask..
what happens when you're a supporter, changes the title and your supporter expires?
It turn to default again?
what happens when you're a supporter, changes the title and your supporter expires?
It turn to default again?
so awesome peppy 
I start to like this new widescreen-taiko.
Anyway, the new bugfix in testbuild "Fix taiko approach speed changing depending on resolution." destroyed it again. It's like playing a map on EasyMode now o.o
Anyway, the new bugfix in testbuild "Fix taiko approach speed changing depending on resolution." destroyed it again. It's like playing a map on EasyMode now o.o
First of all, it is really a nice widescreen update because I played all the time with this resolution but never had the full scrollsize/scrollbar view, until now.
But this new change keeps not just benefits which I will come later to. It has also disadvantages (some are even player and score based).
I can't understand everything what Chinpota said, but with some points he is right.
We have there some problems with HD+HR, especially when HD stands as mod alone. Playing a map on HD is now way harder then before because the scrollbar is longer. But no, the problem itself is not that it has become harder. We could train that. The problem is that HD+HR are now together easier as when hidden is standing alone as choosen mod.
I will take here the experienced players as example which are playing the mods in a different way as beginners would do plus considering the changes which will appear after this update:
"Using HD before the change" is now mostly equal to "using HD+HR after the change"
I think what this means is something you know. Influence to the rankings, pp points and etc.. Also not to forget Chinpotas said words about HD+HR+DT(I didn't checked it by myself yet, tbh.)
Resolution is a problem here as well, but Chinpota mentioned this.
Well, benefits... to be honest right now it is really interesting because it has a way other play feeling as before, beside that the scrollbar is now nearly as long as the original TNT(not that this is importand here in osu). Higher SV's are now possible as well since we have a bigger view.
The question is now... is it okay to leave it for now how it is with all these problems? This would need a rework of the mods in taiko. And if possible by asking some experienced players. There are some in the BAT/MAT team.
I kind of like this update, really.
But the problem here are the scores and logic of the mods.
But this new change keeps not just benefits which I will come later to. It has also disadvantages (some are even player and score based).
I can't understand everything what Chinpota said, but with some points he is right.
We have there some problems with HD+HR, especially when HD stands as mod alone. Playing a map on HD is now way harder then before because the scrollbar is longer. But no, the problem itself is not that it has become harder. We could train that. The problem is that HD+HR are now together easier as when hidden is standing alone as choosen mod.
I will take here the experienced players as example which are playing the mods in a different way as beginners would do plus considering the changes which will appear after this update:
"Using HD before the change" is now mostly equal to "using HD+HR after the change"
*Before: Playing HD:
A smaller view on the notes which causes less focus on all notes. -> You are able to focus only at one part of the screen which makes it easier because you can count more on your reflex and 'timing-feeling' instead of visual view.
After: Playing HD:
Now with a bigger view which causes that player need to focus on more notes. -> You need to concentrade now really much because you see more patterns, which causes that you need to remember more notes. This confuses.
Before: Using HD+HR: Mostly you didn't saw anything.
*After: Using HD+HR: It has nearly the same effect as HD did without the widescreen option.
So now it is like: HD(harder) < HD+HR (easier) - HD less points, HD+HR more pointsA smaller view on the notes which causes less focus on all notes. -> You are able to focus only at one part of the screen which makes it easier because you can count more on your reflex and 'timing-feeling' instead of visual view.
After: Playing HD:
Now with a bigger view which causes that player need to focus on more notes. -> You need to concentrade now really much because you see more patterns, which causes that you need to remember more notes. This confuses.
Before: Using HD+HR: Mostly you didn't saw anything.
*After: Using HD+HR: It has nearly the same effect as HD did without the widescreen option.
I think what this means is something you know. Influence to the rankings, pp points and etc.. Also not to forget Chinpotas said words about HD+HR+DT(I didn't checked it by myself yet, tbh.)
Resolution is a problem here as well, but Chinpota mentioned this.
Well, benefits... to be honest right now it is really interesting because it has a way other play feeling as before, beside that the scrollbar is now nearly as long as the original TNT(not that this is importand here in osu). Higher SV's are now possible as well since we have a bigger view.
The question is now... is it okay to leave it for now how it is with all these problems? This would need a rework of the mods in taiko. And if possible by asking some experienced players. There are some in the BAT/MAT team.
I kind of like this update, really.
But the problem here are the scores and logic of the mods.
Have to agree. Even for me (noob player) hr + hd is VERY easy now but when playing with hd only I get very confused
I can see people getting #1s with hr hd easily soon
I can see people getting #1s with hr hd easily soon
I think, the widescreenfunction is good, but for the people, which all time played with the other screen (like me), it is not good.
Because I have now big problems to play Taiko ^^'
It would be the best, when you can change it, so the people, who want the old back, can change it to that ._.
Otherwise I will fail deeply ;w;
Because I have now big problems to play Taiko ^^'
It would be the best, when you can change it, so the people, who want the old back, can change it to that ._.
Otherwise I will fail deeply ;w;
I had a pretty stupid idea... How about making this widescreen thingy available as a mod? Shadowing it if you cannot use it (like 4:3 screens) and applying a x0.90 or so multiplier if you use it. That way it won't revamp Taiko mods' multipliers and everyone could use it without worrying about its fairness or not. That would more or less answer the problem of HD + HR + WS = normal HD (I know there are flaws with this, but I think we can get a nice thing out of it.). And of course, if you do not use it, back to the good ol' taiko playscreen. \o/
Well, pretty stupid idea, but I wanted to share it. Nice update overall, if we do not count that little problem.
Well, pretty stupid idea, but I wanted to share it. Nice update overall, if we do not count that little problem.
Topic Starter
As for taiko adjustments, I am currently working with ChinPota to make changes to hidden and hard rock.
Hidden will display the same on 4:3 and 16:9.
Hard Rock will have higher SD at 16:9 to make up for the screen size increase.
Other modes will be unaffected.
Hidden will display the same on 4:3 and 16:9.
Hard Rock will have higher SD at 16:9 to make up for the screen size increase.
Other modes will be unaffected.
Topic Starter
For the time being, I am disabling HD and HR mods for Taiko mode until further adjustments have been made.
Apologies for any inconvenience, and thanks for understanding
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Apologies for any inconvenience, and thanks for understanding
.Thank you, and if possible, can you reroll the HD+HR-scores attained in this timespan? If anything, I'd like to see mine being deleted.peppy wrote:
For the time being, I am disabling HD and HR mods for Taiko mode until further adjustments have been made.
Apologies for any inconvenience, and thanks for understanding
Topic Starter
Obtained scores will be removed, yes.
Alright, thank you very much for the awesome update as well as the quick response to problems that arose because of it.peppy wrote:
Obtained scores will be removed, yes.
Can't we just keep it like it was before =w=
e: Or make something like this happen
e: Or make something like this happen
statementreply wrote:
Awesome update. Keep up with with the update ppy.
Can somebody help me ?
What does the icons under the avatar means ? Is it new ? I've never seen them before Oo
What does the icons under the avatar means ? Is it new ? I've never seen them before Oo
They are the playstyle icons, you can set them if you play with mouse, keyboard or tablet (or multiple) to inform others of your playstyle if you like
Thank you ^^
But I only play with Touch-pad and Keyboard. I don't even have a mouse !
But I only play with Touch-pad and Keyboard. I don't even have a mouse !
Touch-pad as in a laptop's mouse-pad, or is it touch screen? or a tablet's touch pad?
In either case, i guess the first would be equivalent to mouse, and a touch screen icon may be added later (i saw RBRat3 provide some art for it)
In either case, i guess the first would be equivalent to mouse, and a touch screen icon may be added later (i saw RBRat3 provide some art for it)
It's a touch-pad like that :
But in play, it's very different to a mouse... Is it possible in the future to ad a specific icon for that ?
Oh, and for the tablet icon : I draw a lot by computer, and sometimes I let my tablet connected while I'm doing something else (like playing osu!). But I never play with my tablet. Is there a way to remove the tablet icon ?
But in play, it's very different to a mouse... Is it possible in the future to ad a specific icon for that ?
Oh, and for the tablet icon : I draw a lot by computer, and sometimes I let my tablet connected while I'm doing something else (like playing osu!). But I never play with my tablet. Is there a way to remove the tablet icon ?
It's not visible to other people unless you "select" it.
That's how it shows for me.
That's how it shows for me.
Oh, I didn't know that =O
Thank you Maav <3
EDIT : How do we know the icon is selected ? Oo
(Yeah, all the questions I have... Sorry >w<)
Thank you Maav <3
EDIT : How do we know the icon is selected ? Oo
(Yeah, all the questions I have... Sorry >w<)
Topic Starter
The taiko issues are fixed in the b20120905 bugfix release.
Thanks for your patience guys.
Thanks for your patience guys
.Aberyal Crisis wrote:
EDIT : How do we know the icon is selected ? Oo
(Yeah, all the questions I have... Sorry >w<)
I had a doubt and just went to see with google chrome, and yes, you're right xD Thanks !
Actually it doesn't works with IE ^^
Actually it doesn't works with IE ^^
Please make an option to change Taiko back without having to leave fullscreen or widescreen?
Suddenly having such a wider reading area makes it harder x.x
Suddenly having such a wider reading area makes it harder x.x
you're probably just going to have an adjustment phase is all. Give it a week of practice and see if you haven't gotten the hang of it yet, rather than attempting to discount it immediatelyZakvvv666 wrote:
Please make an option to change Taiko back without having to leave fullscreen or widescreen?
Suddenly having such a wider reading area makes it harder x.x
hey peppy, I admire your dedication and patience but this continues to happen.
I recently updated osu!, but playing, the damn colorless notes appeared. i can wait...
also good job 2012 build... joasjoasjoasjoas
I recently updated osu!, but playing, the damn colorless notes appeared. i can wait...
also good job 2012 build... joasjoasjoasjoas
Hm, I admit HD+HR problem is solved. Nice.peppy wrote:
The taiko issues are fixed in the b20120905 bugfix release.
Thanks for your patience guys
But now HD has become once again unplayable. It was not a bad idea just to cut a part of the scroll, but now you can't see anything anymore, especially in over 200 BPM songs.
Also I must say, HR is really high now... after a certain BPM it is hard as hell to play HR(but maybe here it's just me).
Topic Starter
The fact it is unplayable is a completely separate issues which I'm willing to look at on another day (if you were watching my stream earlier you'd know my thoughts on this). This bug-fix release was just to bring everything back into relative sanity - as in what we were used to before this last widescreen patch.
Aw and I was getting happy that HD+HR was possible orz oh well
But... doesn't this mean the player will have to remember what notes are there longer? I mean, if its the same visibility as 4:3, that means the notes spend more time in the "invisible" phase, which makes it harder than 4:3 (unless you planned to make it fade in and fade out)peppy wrote:
Hidden will display the same on 4:3 and 16:9.\
Well actually it is not anymore as before. Also not before or after the widescreen patch.
But sure, I think waiting is no problem here.
But sure, I think waiting is no problem here.
Ca Calne
I love the background costumation.
Good job peppy.
Good job peppy.
Okay, talked to some taiko guys in #taiko.
*HR + HD should be like one update before, 0,3s more visible time as Tasha said.
-> Problem here is, that many scores would be overwritten.
HR should have a bit more visible time as well because the scrollspeed is a bit too fast.
*HD is right now unplayable. We thought about to set it how it was before for now.
-> Problem would be that people with no wide screen couldn't play it anymore.
aabc271 said most points worked at version osu! b20120904
*Right now I'm not sure, probably HD and HD+HR would become somehow the same difficulty.
Well, these are for now informations about the current situation. Tasha is going to write a concept for it.
Edit: Aha. As some people said before, HD works on 4:3 perfectly.
Edit2: Played the screwed Hidden mode in multiplayer. It is kind of really fun! Maybe we could at this a new Blink-mod? Activating it in the same way Nightcore. lol
*HR + HD should be like one update before, 0,3s more visible time as Tasha said.
-> Problem here is, that many scores would be overwritten.
HR should have a bit more visible time as well because the scrollspeed is a bit too fast.
*HD is right now unplayable. We thought about to set it how it was before for now.
-> Problem would be that people with no wide screen couldn't play it anymore.
aabc271 said most points worked at version osu! b20120904
*Right now I'm not sure, probably HD and HD+HR would become somehow the same difficulty.
Well, these are for now informations about the current situation. Tasha is going to write a concept for it.
Edit: Aha. As some people said before, HD works on 4:3 perfectly.
Edit2: Played the screwed Hidden mode in multiplayer. It is kind of really fun! Maybe we could at this a new Blink-mod? Activating it in the same way Nightcore. lol
Uhm... I just updated to 05 and HD is pefectly playable to me lol it just looks weird
can you add widescreen support for ctb?
some maps have sliders which can't be passed perfectly because slider ticks or other parts of them are beyond of the ryuuta movement zone and widescreen support will make them passable.
some maps have sliders which can't be passed perfectly because slider ticks or other parts of them are beyond of the ryuuta movement zone and widescreen support will make them passable.
with respect to change background
can i use a png extension?
and if I use a png image ... the background will look black?
can i use a png extension?
and if I use a png image ... the background will look black?
After making my head hurt explaining this to Ono, here's the picture that gives a general idea of what HD / HD+HR should look like in comparison to each other. (Note: Line locations aren't exact, I'm just using them to give a general idea, Ideally HD+HR would be dissapearing approximately around the left edge of the Don in the picture)
ok maybe i must being ask this in other place, but anyways not is really important for have a thread;
then anyone what is the symbols appeared below of my avatar but above of the flaw, you dont can see this in the profile of others, only in your own profile
oh and also nice update
then anyone what is the symbols appeared below of my avatar but above of the flaw, you dont can see this in the profile of others, only in your own profile
oh and also nice update
"Please see the osu! web site for more details."Where?
Obviously related to the widescreen support update.
I support blink-mod
So what is this BLACK NOTE
peppy disabled HD/HR on Taiko for the time being until it's fixedboat wrote:
"Please see the osu! web site for more details."Where?
Obviously related to the widescreen support update.
I feel a little embarrassed since everyone has figured it out, but how exactly do I add a background to my osu! welcome screen? :O
From the opening post:
Add the file menu-background.jpg to your skin. It scales based on height first, then width if it cannot fill up the whole screen. The optimal resolution is 1366x768, supporting all widescreen resolutions. You *can* use higher than this, but please refrain from going higher than 1600x on publicly distributed skins, as it will impact performance of menu loading on lower-end machines.
I think that this Taiko update fucked off the hidden gameplay...
Now is sooooo hard to play.
Now is sooooo hard to play.
I tried adding a picture file to my skin folder and renamed it to menu-background.jpg but it didn't do anything when I open the client.
Did you add it to a specific skin or just into the "Skins" folder? Does your skin contain a working skin.ini? Do you have the correct skin selected?
Hmm, that's probably because you changed its name as "menu-background.jpg" ? Try naming it as " menu-background" since the picture you chose is already in jpg format.
(Sounds too stupid but some people do it)
(Sounds too stupid but some people do it)
Oh I figured it out. Nevermind Thanks ^_^
SnowReborn
Let's say that I've changed my background today and my supporter tag expires on the next day. Will my background changed into normal again on the next day?(Sorryforthebadgrammar) :/
SnowReborn
If this feature will also be available for former supporters T_T
oh well, nice update~~
oh well, nice update~~
UnderminE wrote:
So what is this BLACK NOTE
t/96951/start=15UnderminE wrote:
UnderminE wrote:
So what is this BLACK NOTE
Hey, about the taiko widescreen support
In the original game, there are 2 black spaces that are filled to stimulate the dons and kats coming out of it, and then "processed". You should add that as a skinning feature. It's just my opinion though, don't mind me D:
In the original game, there are 2 black spaces that are filled to stimulate the dons and kats coming out of it, and then "processed". You should add that as a skinning feature. It's just my opinion though, don't mind me D:
I like both these changes. I'd probably be more excited though if I was playing on a widescreen monitor... so changing the opening background image is considerably more limited for me.
And I really like having a more authentically long Taiko track. However, I'm not sure how much I'll actually use it as it is currently, because going all the way to the options to select a widescreen resolution just to play a Taiko diff in a set is a lot of work... it's more practical if I'm actually going to go into Taiko mode and play a bunch of songs (although playing with different track lengths might be jarring).
And I really like having a more authentically long Taiko track. However, I'm not sure how much I'll actually use it as it is currently, because going all the way to the options to select a widescreen resolution just to play a Taiko diff in a set is a lot of work... it's more practical if I'm actually going to go into Taiko mode and play a bunch of songs (although playing with different track lengths might be jarring).
well, i read a few pages of the thread looking for help, but couldn't find any real answers, i sound silly but i have no idea how i do this D::
Is it possible to do this to the default skin, cause that's what im trying, if so, what do i do then? :S
Is it possible to do this to the default skin, cause that's what im trying, if so, what do i do then? :S
Just make a new skin that contains nothing but the main menu background and the skin.ini from the template skin, then use that. All missing elements will be automatically taken from the default skin.Sakisakan wrote:
well, i read a few pages of the thread looking for help, but couldn't find any real answers, i sound silly but i have no idea how i do this D::
Is it possible to do this to the default skin, cause that's what im trying, if so, what do i do then? :S
Topic Starter
You don't even need a skin.ini!
eee,i give up, i swear im doing it right Q_Q
I'll probably end up trying to do it like a week later and realize i was doing a stupid obvious mistake, but for now, i give up >.>
I'll probably end up trying to do it like a week later and realize i was doing a stupid obvious mistake, but for now, i give up >.>
I honestly think that the menu background should be available to everyone and not just supporter.
It'd be unfair if non-supporters can't enjoy this
It'd be unfair if non-supporters can't enjoy this
Topic Starter
Unfair in what way? It has no effect on any part of the game apart from visual customisation.
in my viewpiont, if it's rly unfair to all non-supporter, ''supporter'' should be cancelled and it becomes meaningless .... we cant say it is fair or not
It's unfair in a sense that non-supporters can't enjoy different backgrounds.
They'd be stuck with plain old blue, dull backgrounds. This kind of thing should be enjoyed by everyone, right
They'd be stuck with plain old blue, dull backgrounds. This kind of thing should be enjoyed by everyone, right
Topic Starter
you could take that to the next level and suggest all the supporter benefits were also made available to non-supporters. This doesn't work so well in my head.
Giving the ability to change the menu background to supporters only is just a way to thanks them for supporting the game. Just like all other osu!supp features such as osudirect or the Yellow in-game nickname.Tsukasa wrote:
I honestly think that the menu background should be available to everyone and not just supporter.
It'd be unfair if non-supporters can't enjoy this
I still have yet to receive this feature "The warm and fuzzy feeling of doing your part to keep osu! running smoothly!"Kurai wrote:
Giving the ability to change the menu background to supporters only is just a way to thanks them for supporting the game. Just like all other osu!supp features such as osudirect or the Yellow in-game nickname.Tsukasa wrote:
I honestly think that the menu background should be available to everyone and not just supporter.
It'd be unfair if non-supporters can't enjoy this
Since this is the only problem, Palette changing the Menu shall be a good Idea, the menu have about 5 colors, and you won't change the logo, only their coloursTsukasa wrote:
It's unfair in a sense that non-supporters can't enjoy different backgrounds.
They'd be stuck with plain old blue, dull backgrounds. This kind of thing should be enjoyed by everyone, right
You can already customize the game to a great extent, so stop whining and buy a tag if this feature is so important to you.Tsukasa wrote:
I honestly think that the menu background should be available to everyone and not just supporter.
It'd be unfair if non-supporters can't enjoy this
So instead of changing the main menu background, I decided to presave the new background image, so when I'm supporter I can use this feature.
Question for peppy.
If I got supporter for one month, do I keep the ability to change the background if my supporter run out?
If I got supporter for one month, do I keep the ability to change the background if my supporter run out?
No, you can customize your menu background only when you're supporter.
Why can't it be like having an userpage?
It will be good if there is an option to reduce "osu!“ size
You just did not suggest that!!!!!!adg135876 wrote:
It will be good if there is an option to reduce "osu!“ size
You can do it in the options.adg135876 wrote:
It will be good if there is an option to reduce "osu!“ size
Well Played, Peppy.
NOW I NEED TO BE A SUPPORTER.
hard thing to do, I DONT HAVE A CREDIT CARD.
NOW I NEED TO BE A SUPPORTER.
hard thing to do, I DONT HAVE A CREDIT CARD.
If you have a Paypal account, you can charge that with a bank transfer.DevianteBrent wrote:
Well Played, Peppy.
NOW I NEED TO BE A SUPPORTER.
hard thing to do, I DONT HAVE A CREDIT CARD.
What's happening to my osu tonight? 
Failed connection = =
Failed connection = =
Topic Starter
My bad.