I see subtle scumpainting of bmin here. bmin was unwilling because he felt there wasn't enough time and a townie could end up being lynched, not himself.akrolsmir wrote:
For instance, vote: bmin11 on a perceived unwillingness to have votes flying around lest he be lynched.
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However, that entire sentiment (for lack of better words) still includes himself.
I don't see the point of this argument at all. Are you suggesting that disagreeing with risking possible town lynches leads to being over-cautious of it's own life?
Anyway, the day ends in 40 hours. I'm thinking of prodding Sync, since he hasn't posted a single post, while having two votes on him. If anyone agrees, do the prodding for me.
Heading to bed. Good night.
Anyway, the day ends in 40 hours. I'm thinking of prodding Sync, since he hasn't posted a single post, while having two votes on him. If anyone agrees, do the prodding for me.
Heading to bed. Good night.
Unless you're outright claiming mafia right now, yes.
Especially with a lynch that is based purely on words and no actions. The thing that got me raising an eyebrow was this is coming straight off a player with a vote on him. Not much but it's curious.
Especially with a lynch that is based purely on words and no actions. The thing that got me raising an eyebrow was this is coming straight off a player with a vote on him. Not much but it's curious.
@bmin We're always going to be risking town lynches, unless we have a claimed cop. Our chances with a lynch (2/9) are much better than our chances of waiting for the nk (0/9).
Also, what is up with explicitly pointing out Sync's lurking and NOT prodding him? (prod:Sync)
Thus far I have not been dissuaded of lynching bmin.
Also, what is up with explicitly pointing out Sync's lurking and NOT prodding him? (prod:Sync)
Thus far I have not been dissuaded of lynching bmin.
It's uncharacteristic of you that you have gotten your facts wrong. Sync was the one that got the first vote and was the only vote when I started rambling about "it's too late and dangerous to start a RVS"Rantai wrote:
Unless you're outright claiming mafia right now, yes.
Especially with a lynch that is based purely on words and no actions. The thing that got me raising an eyebrow was this is coming straight off a player with a vote on him. Not much but it's curious.
I guess it could be taken that way if we look at Nyquill's vote (which came after my post) and my second post following that, but why should I suddenly change my thoughts just from that single vote?
Topic Starter
Prodded Sync
VOTE COUNT:
Sync (1) - Kanye West
bmin11 (1) - akrolsmir
Not Voting (7) - JInxyjem, Rantai, bmin11, Nyquill, Sync, Lincolm, Jayel
DEADLINE IS IN AROUND 24 HOURS.
Edit: Fixed the incorrect votes.
VOTE COUNT:
Sync (1) - Kanye West
bmin11 (1) - akrolsmir
Not Voting (7) - JInxyjem, Rantai, bmin11, Nyquill, Sync, Lincolm, Jayel
DEADLINE IS IN AROUND 24 HOURS.
Edit: Fixed the incorrect votes.
Well ok point taken, but you still continue to urge us to be cautious but present no other alternatives at this moment.
Until I see something else your over-cautiousness is still unwarranted.
Until I see something else your over-cautiousness is still unwarranted.
fff, I was expecting a PM at the start of D1
Anyways, there's nothing wrong with random voting D1 -- even at the very start. As long as someone doesn't hammer in without town's consensus (aka scum or stupid newbtown) then we're fine.
Anyways, there's nothing wrong with random voting D1 -- even at the very start. As long as someone doesn't hammer in without town's consensus (aka scum or stupid newbtown) then we're fine.
... prod: everyone not named Rantai, bmin or Sync
What do you all think about lynching one of the many lurkers day 1?
What do you all think about lynching one of the many lurkers day 1?
Can we have another 24 or 48 hours? I'm going to be gone for a day.
Even though I don't know how this is related to me being cautious of single vote lynch, but I'll try to think of one. Actually, everyone else should as well for the better good of town.
Even though I don't know how this is related to me being cautious of single vote lynch, but I'll try to think of one. Actually, everyone else should as well for the better good of town.
12 Hours left?
I don't have any idea to vote whom. The best idea still random vote in first day.
Well, maybe bmin really like to analyze every single kind of vote (and post) that coming trough which make him cautious. A good player, isn't he?
I don't have any idea to vote whom. The best idea still random vote in first day.
Well, maybe bmin really like to analyze every single kind of vote (and post) that coming trough which make him cautious. A good player, isn't he?
Not really an option anymore, as a reactionary guage will no longer work at this point.Lincolm wrote:
I don't have any idea to vote whom. The best idea still random vote in first day.
Kanye where the hell are you we haven't seen you in 2 pages along with Jayel (but he has internet problems?).
And my point still stands that bmin called off kanye's random vote way too early. Being "cautious" has its limits.
Sorry for the inactivity, guys.
Well, I do not have any idea whom I should vote, either.
Maybe Sync is the only one I have doubt on.
Well, I do not have any idea whom I should vote, either.
Maybe Sync is the only one I have doubt on.
Topic Starter
I'm extending the deadline by 24 hours.
This will be your only extension for this day.
This will be your only extension for this day.
Cool, thanks for the extension; I was out of town yesterday. Sure we could lynch lurkers, but no one's really lurking anymore, are they? I guess my RV still stands for now anyway. I don't really want to vote bmin unless town reaches a solid consensus. Being cautious =/= mafia.
Vote : No-Lynch
Sorry, just don't want pick anyone without reason even I like using random.
Sorry, just don't want pick anyone without reason even I like using random.
@Lincolm - Well, if we go no-lynch, that gives us a 0% chance of hitting mafia while they have 100% chance of hitting town tonight. And when we start up tomorrow, we'll be in the same place as today not knowing who to lynch, and be down one person. Meanwhile, if we do lynch someone, even if it's town we'll have a record of who was willing to lynch that person and who abstained, which is useful information as we move on. For that reason, no-lynch day 1 is usually a bad idea.
@Kanye- Are you really comfortable lynching Sync with your 1 random vote? Because that's the way things are looking so far.
@Kanye- Are you really comfortable lynching Sync with your 1 random vote? Because that's the way things are looking so far.
Don't point your finger without telling us why.Jayel wrote:
Sorry for the inactivity, guys.
Well, I do not have any idea whom I should vote, either.
Maybe Sync is the only one I have doubt on.
vote: Jayel
Basically parroting, added nothing with his post and simply posted so he wouldn't be deemed as a lurker in aims that the spotlight wouldn't be on him. Unless you guys want to lynch a lurker or somebody random, Jayel is probably the best bet in terms of a D1 lynch.
What do you guys think?
I was attributing that to being new (mainly because I haven't seen him play enough to know better).
Sorry for slight inactivity, schoolwork and stuff the past few days
Rantai wrote:
I was attributing that to being new (mainly because I haven't seen him play enough to know better).
Honestly, I wouldn't dismiss him that easily, considering he claims to have played before.Jayel wrote:
It is sort of complicated.... since I'm a newbie here, though I've played Mafia games in many other places... :/
I was thinking of no-lynch, but the chance of having no pro-town roles has just made the plan to sound even worse then it was.
Well... I hate how scummy this is going to sound like, but if akro doesn't unvote me (even though I have made a post how his reasoning does not make sense), I'll be voting someone else just to save myself. I know lynching me is going to be a town lynch with a chance of 100%, so I would rathershoot for the 1/4 chance now.
Well... I hate how scummy this is going to sound like, but if akro doesn't unvote me (even though I have made a post how his reasoning does not make sense), I'll be voting someone else just to save myself. I know lynching me is going to be a town lynch with a chance of 100%, so I would rathershoot for the 1/4 chance now.
The reason I doubted Sync was sort of simple: he was silently waiting while others are talking -- (it was solely based on my prejudice, but)
Now I've got to have my decision.
Vote: Sync
I think he is being aggressive on me after I said I have doubt on him.
Now I've got to have my decision.
Vote: Sync
I think he is being aggressive on me after I said I have doubt on him.
@akro : Thought of that also. I just thinking for the save search also. Maybe with more people we get more informations. Although I agree with yours also. I will thinking of that but I still on my option.
4 hours left
4 hours left
Are you calling my "aggressiveness" unjustified?
Again, you're not explaining anything -- you're typing a load of crap which is why I'm voting for you in the first place.
Again, you're not explaining anything -- you're typing a load of crap which is why I'm voting for you in the first place.
Man, I have never said that your aggressiveness is unjustifiable.Sync wrote:
Are you calling my "aggressiveness" unjustified?
The word I just said before I voted you was that "I had doubt on you" but, you know, I was not going to absolutely vote you at that time.
What I call unjustifiable is, so to speak, that you became sensitive right after the moment I said "I had doubt on you"
and shortly put a vote on me. This one finally motivated me to decide to vote you.
On the light of your thesis, I think the reason of yours of voting me does not make sense, either.
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
Sync (2) - Kanye West, Jayel
bmin11 (1) - akrolsmir
Jayel (1) - Sync
No Lynch (1) - Lincolm
Not Voting (4) - JInxyjem, Rantai, bmin11, Nyquill
You all decide to lynch Sync.
After doing so, you find a gun in his pocket and some a paper containing orders from the Mafia.
Sync - Mafia Goon - Lynched Day 1
IT IS NOW NIGHT 1.
DEADLINE IS IN 24 HOURS.
Sync (2) - Kanye West, Jayel
bmin11 (1) - akrolsmir
Jayel (1) - Sync
No Lynch (1) - Lincolm
Not Voting (4) - JInxyjem, Rantai, bmin11, Nyquill
You all decide to lynch Sync.
After doing so, you find a gun in his pocket and some a paper containing orders from the Mafia.
Sync - Mafia Goon - Lynched Day 1
IT IS NOW NIGHT 1.
DEADLINE IS IN 24 HOURS.
Topic Starter
It was a peaceful night. No one died at all.
IT IS NOW DAY 2. WITH 8 ALIVE, IT TAKES 5 TO HAMMER.
DEADLINE IS IN 96 HOURS.
IT IS NOW DAY 2. WITH 8 ALIVE, IT TAKES 5 TO HAMMER.
DEADLINE IS IN 96 HOURS.
... If it weren't a semi-open setup I would have screamed cult like anime mafia
There's no decent motive I can imagine for mafia to not kill, so I'm assuming the guy was inactive or inattentive.
There's no decent motive I can imagine for mafia to not kill, so I'm assuming the guy was inactive or inattentive.
Doctor?
Not sure why you would rule that out...
Not sure why you would rule that out...
...OH.
derp, the fact how much the lynch/kill events were so close to anime just made me forget
derp, the fact how much the lynch/kill events were so close to anime just made me forget
this game is flavorless though...JInxyjem wrote:
...OH.
derp, the fact how much the lynch/kill events were so close to anime just made me forget
Assuming mafia is actually playing to win and that the doctor got the right person, we can also confirm the existance of a cop.
Like always, in case its one of the new people, claim only if you got mafia.
I don't think I'm getting this. There is also a setup that only has a doctor.Nyquill wrote:
Assuming mafia is actually playing to win and that the doctor got the right person, we can also confirm the existance of a cop.
I think we are pretty safe to assume we have a doctor with us, who was able to save last night (I guess it's still possible that we might be having another Themeless Mafia >_> <_< >_> <_<)
Oh and I'm having my FoS (finger of suspicion) towards Lincolm for his/her vote. Akro made a decent enough post for why no lynch was a bad idea, and a bit of add ups from myself as well. I'm going to take this as a possible attempt to save Sync from getting lynched. I'll be expecting a post from you about this.
The only part that makes me hesitate is that Sync hasn't voted for No Lynch. Maybe Sync was worried that the tied between himself and Lincolm would become too obvious with his lynch? I don't know.
The only part that makes me hesitate is that Sync hasn't voted for No Lynch. Maybe Sync was worried that the tied between himself and Lincolm would become too obvious with his lynch? I don't know.
At least we know that we have a doctor.
It almost not possible the last mafia got inactive in the first night with akrolsmir already asked to proded all of us before the end time.
It almost not possible the last mafia got inactive in the first night with akrolsmir already asked to proded all of us before the end time.
Looks like a scum slip- Nyquill's the remaining roleblocker and thus knows that the existence of a doctor confirms a cop. Vote: Nyquillbmin11 wrote:
I don't think I'm getting this. There is also a setup that only has a doctor.Nyquill wrote:
Assuming mafia is actually playing to win and that the doctor got the right person, we can also confirm the existance of a cop.
Say what you like in denial, I'm not changing my vote for today.
Lincolm wrote:
At least we know that we have a doctor.
It almost not possible the last mafia got inactive in the first night with akrolsmir already asked to proded all of us before the end time.
bmin11 wrote:
Oh and I'm having my FoS (finger of suspicion) towards Lincolm for his/her vote. Akro made a decent enough post for why no lynch was a bad idea, and a bit of add ups from myself as well. I'm going to take this as a possible attempt to save Sync from getting lynched. I'll be expecting a post from you about this.
The only part that makes me hesitate is that Sync hasn't voted for No Lynch. Maybe Sync was worried that the tied between himself and Lincolm would become too obvious with his lynch? I don't know.
And I'll also be waiting for Nyquill's post.
WELL MASSIVE DERP I was remembering the two setups mentioned of having either 2 or none because of that discussion earlier and I completely forgot about the existance of the other two.
Third time I'll be slapping myself here.
Third time I'll be slapping myself here.
Haha, no. Try harder.
Actually, don't, and let us lynch you
.
Actually, don't, and let us lynch you
.Why are you pushing so hard for his lynch? he derped.
This probably sounds hypocritical coming from a guy who derped posts earlier, but akro's push is completely valid, and Nyquill's reason for his derp doesn't make any sense to me, because I didn't see any discussion that fit what Nyquill was talking about. In fact, I even quoted all 4 setups at the start of D1.Kanye West wrote:
Why are you pushing so hard for his lynch? he derped.
Another thing why he might be fixed on the all or nothing is because these are the only setups with a roleblocker too, just saying
Vote: Nyquill
Well, I don't get anything. I'll hold my vote for a while this time ...
I'm either happy for Nyquil or Lincolm lynch for today
JInxyjem wrote:
Kanye West wrote:
because I didn't see any discussion that fit what Nyquill was talking about.
Kanye West wrote:
why is there a need for a mafia roleblocker if there's 7 vanilla townies
First page signups.akrolsmir wrote:
Presumably to make scum think that there is a cop and doctor to watch out for.
Actually, that's a good point.JInxyjem wrote:
Another thing why he might be fixed on the all or nothing is because these are the only setups with a roleblocker too, just saying
Though the focus was on roleblockers earlier (as shown) so he could be genuinely be mixing it up. But right now I'm more inclined to believe the former.
Nyquill wrote:
JInxyjem wrote:
because I didn't see any discussion that fit what Nyquill was talking about.Kanye West wrote:
why is there a need for a mafia roleblocker if there's 7 vanilla towniesFirst page signups.akrolsmir wrote:
Presumably to make scum think that there is a cop and doctor to watch out for.
Which was after signups.JInxyjem wrote:
In fact, I even quoted all 4 setups at the start of D1.
I'm just giving my analyze. I said almost because there is a change that the mafia inactive. Surely I'm not explain that, but I mention it. That just an analyze, but you can also analyze my post too, so I know how should make better word next time.bmin11 wrote:
Oh and I'm having my FoS (finger of suspicion) towards Lincolm for his/her vote. Akro made a decent enough post for why no lynch was a bad idea, and a bit of add ups from myself as well. I'm going to take this as a possible attempt to save Sync from getting lynched. I'll be expecting a post from you about this.
The only part that makes me hesitate is that Sync hasn't voted for No Lynch. Maybe Sync was worried that the tied between himself and Lincolm would become too obvious with his lynch? I don't know.
Well, maybe Nyquill derped maybe not. I want to see more (probably).
I think bmin have a suspicious think. Because of random vote to Sync (also Kanye but unvote) made him overcautious. Maybe he want to save Sync from the vote because he know Sync is his friend. Just another analyze. Hey, this is not a revenge, I'm just giving my opinion, because I don't see anything suspicious in the other, sorry for that.
The reason why its such a massive derp is because I missed everything after that.JInxyjem wrote:
Which was after signups.JInxyjem wrote:
In fact, I even quoted all 4 setups at the start of D1.
I think bmin have a suspicious think. Because of random vote to Sync (also Kanye but unvote) made him overcautious. Maybe he want to save Sync from the vote because he know Sync is his friend. Just another analyze. Hey, this is not a revenge, I'm just giving my opinion, because I don't see anything suspicious in the other, sorry for that.(I'm not gonna lie, this is pretty good analyze). I don't have a defense for this. I'm sad with myself for having such bad luck. This happened to me for Touhou Mafia, where I defended KRZY, the mafia.
Prod : Akrolsmir and Kanye West
Nah, just trying to prodding when there is a change.
Is my prodding right?
Nah, just trying to prodding when there is a change.
Is my prodding right?
bmin sounds like he's going for a meta grab. Bad luck is a little too watery for my taste.
Topic Starter
Prodded akrolsmir and Kanye West.
VOTE COUNT:
Nyquill (2) - akrolsmir, JInxyjem
Not Voting (6) - Rantai, bmin11, Nyquill, Lincolm, Kanye West, Jayel
VOTE COUNT:
Nyquill (2) - akrolsmir, JInxyjem
Not Voting (6) - Rantai, bmin11, Nyquill, Lincolm, Kanye West, Jayel
Not Voting (6) - Rantai, bmin11, Nyquill, Lincolm, Kanye West, JayelThis is pretty ridiculous. I really don't see the point of being prodded when no one's actually doing anything.
Everyone, go vote for Nyquill or come up with a very convincing reason why you aren't.
Gah, I wanted to play ;_;
Oh well. Have fun guys
Go scum!
Oh well. Have fun guys
Go scum!
I'm not voting for him because he probably pulled a TBTE #superconvincingreasonsakrolsmir wrote:
Not Voting (6) - Rantai, bmin11, Nyquill, Lincolm, Kanye West, JayelThis is pretty ridiculous. I really don't see the point of being prodded when no one's actually doing anything.
Everyone, go vote for Nyquill or come up with a very convincing reason why you aren't.
Well, I don't have a decent enough reason to not vote for Nyquil. Though, his excuse makes sense and seems believable at some point. I'll still vote for Nyquil at the end if I don't find anything else.akro wrote:
a very convincing reason why you aren't
I can't easily vote Nyquil 'cause I'm not really sure if he is the most suspicious one.
I'm still holding my vote.
I'm still holding my vote.
There isn't enough on the table for me to make a confident vote. All I've got is a slight lean on Nyquil and bmin.
I'm just learning it.akrolsmir wrote:
Not Voting (6) - Rantai, bmin11, Nyquill, Lincolm, Kanye West, JayelThis is pretty ridiculous. I really don't see the point of being prodded when no one's actually doing anything.
Everyone, go vote for Nyquill or come up with a very convincing reason why you aren't.
Sorry fot that.
Well I have the reason, but not very convincing one. I thought the last mafia would be very very very caution with their words so he could stand longer in this game. In the case, the innocent would not think about that and make extra careless word which make him fishy, but there is possibility the mafia slipped.
I'm not voting because I fell so sorry for voting someone.
Ah, the beauty of WIFOM
I just learned WIFOM meaning. Thanks for the info. Thanks to MafiaWiki too.
Well, if you want to know I really suspicious almost everyone cause of my own analyze... And I oppressed with this.
Well, if you want to know I really suspicious almost everyone cause of my own analyze... And I oppressed with this.
vote: Nyquil
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
Nyquill (5) - akrolsmir, JInxyjem, bmin11, Jayel, Lincolm
Not Voting (3) - Rantai, Nyquill, Kanye West
This time a small "slip" would decide the fate of Nyquill.
After you hang him, and check his pockets, you realize that the slip WAS a genuine one.
There was a gun inside Nyquill's pocket.
Nyquill- Mafia Roleblocker - Lynched Day 2
So at the end of the day, no member of the town died.
A very surprising, yet happy ending to the story.
Nyquill (5) - akrolsmir, JInxyjem, bmin11, Jayel, Lincolm
Not Voting (3) - Rantai, Nyquill, Kanye West
This time a small "slip" would decide the fate of Nyquill.
After you hang him, and check his pockets, you realize that the slip WAS a genuine one.
There was a gun inside Nyquill's pocket.
Nyquill- Mafia Roleblocker - Lynched Day 2
So at the end of the day, no member of the town died.
A very surprising, yet happy ending to the story.
Topic Starter
Roles:
1. JInxyjem - Vanilla Townie
2. Rantai - Vanilla Townie
3. bmin11 - Doctor
4. Sync - Mafia Goon
5. akrolsmir - Cop
6. Nyquill - Mafia Roleblocker
7. Lincolm - Vanilla Townie
8. Kanye West - Vanilla Townie
9. Jayel - Vanilla Townie
Actions:
Night 1:
- akrolsmir investigates Nyquill.
- bmin11 protects Jayel.
- Nyquill kills Jayel.
- Nyquill roleblocks akrolsmir.
Comments:
- Well I didn't think it could be possible, but Town won with no casualties at all.
- Also, those night actions... They perfectly converged with one another...
1. JInxyjem - Vanilla Townie
2. Rantai - Vanilla Townie
3. bmin11 - Doctor
4. Sync - Mafia Goon
5. akrolsmir - Cop
6. Nyquill - Mafia Roleblocker
7. Lincolm - Vanilla Townie
8. Kanye West - Vanilla Townie
9. Jayel - Vanilla Townie
Actions:
Night 1:
- akrolsmir investigates Nyquill.
- bmin11 protects Jayel.
- Nyquill kills Jayel.
- Nyquill roleblocks akrolsmir.
Comments:
- Well I didn't think it could be possible, but Town won with no casualties at all.
- Also, those night actions... They perfectly converged with one another...
Well, atleast I didn't mess up during the night.
holy wowNoHitter wrote:
Actions:
Night 1:
- akrolsmir investigates Nyquill.
- bmin11 protects Jayel.
- Nyquill kills Jayel.
- Nyquill roleblocks akrolsmir.
Comments:
- Well I didn't think it could be possible, but Town won with no casualties at all.
- Also, those night actions... They perfectly converged with one another...
also surprised that akro didn't investigated me, considering his position and the lynch result during D1 maybe I was that bad
Well... uh.
Da faq.
Da faq.
Wow... Nice townie.NoHitter wrote:
Actions:
Night 1:
- akrolsmir investigates Nyquill.
- bmin11 protects Jayel.
- Nyquill kills Jayel.
- Nyquill roleblocks akrolsmir.
Comments:
- Well I didn't think it could be possible, but Town won with no casualties at all.
- Also, those night actions... They perfectly converged with one another...
@bmin- I'd tend to investigate those who I have weaker reads on, so the more I would think you'd be scum, the less likely I'd be to investigate you.
(Also, this was payback for Nyquill scanning me N1 in Anime Mafia)
I'm curious though, Nyquill, why'd you roleblock me?
(Also, this was payback for Nyquill scanning me N1 in Anime Mafia
)I'm curious though, Nyquill, why'd you roleblock me?
Rather than knowing that you were cop, I figured that you were the most likely to scan me if you were one. Turns out gut instinct was right.akrolsmir wrote:
@bmin- I'd tend to investigate those who I have weaker reads on, so the more I would think you'd be scum, the less likely I'd be to investigate you.
(Also, this was payback for Nyquill scanning me N1 in Anime Mafia
I'm curious though, Nyquill, why'd you roleblock me?
For the record, 2 things:
Sync got lynched for wtf no reason lmao
I wasn't lying when I said that I forgot the other two setups.
in the future this is a good reason why random voting on D1 is better than doing nothing
In the fut-
WOAH RED SYNC
WOAH RED SYNC
fix'dNyquill wrote:
In the fut-
WOAHREDORANGE SYNC