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Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Hasn't even started yet and people are already suspicious of each other? o.O

Oh well, I suppose that'll make Day 1 voting even easier.

Confirmations updated. Still waiting on 3 people as far as I am aware.
Derekku

Ace Of Hearts wrote:

Hasn't even started yet and people are already suspicious of each other? o.O
Oh you have NO idea X3
Cuddlebun

Derekku Chan wrote:

Ace Of Hearts wrote:

Hasn't even started yet and people are already suspicious of each other? o.O
Oh you have NO idea X3
:3
anonymous_old
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Topic Starter
AceOfArrows

Derekku Chan wrote:

X3

Todesengal wrote:

:3
:p

Also: Status updated with YellowYoshi's confirmation.

2 confirms left, then we can get started!

For clarification: We will start the moment I get the last 2 confirmations and update the Status post with them.
kuwarudo
Can we discuss now
Azure_Kite
*looks suspiciously*

hmm......

hmm......

I'll be wary of you all!
Pasonia
Zzz, can't we get on and get over and GET DOWN with anything yet?! -_-+
Rolled
Any deadline to confirmation?
Derekku
Rabid hasn't posted in ~2 weeks, and Wojjan hasn't been around for a few days either I think. =/
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Kuu: You can discuss, it's just that since the game hasn't started yet, you can't vote yet.

Rolled: In WWG1 and 2, there was no need for a discrete deadline, as everyone confirmed their roles; this is the first time it's taken this long for everyone to confirm. As this is a precedent for me, I'll give this serious consideration.

Derekku: Every Role ID distributed is important, even Civvies, as it helps keep the balance; therefore, if those two don't confirm and I decide to start anyway, I MUST redistribute any Alien or Aux Roles those players may possess to people who are currently ordinary Civilians (a policy I've actually had for a while, but never had to mention).

(If several people - enough to upset the overall approximate Human to Alien ratio - were to not reply, I would then have to do a complete scrap-and-redistribute of all Role IDs, but I don't believe that is warranted in this case.)
Yuukari-Banteki
Wojjan was afk for like 10 days recently, but i know he came back at some point. i wouldnt rule him out just yet.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
I wouldn't either: he just sent me his confirmation.

Status is updated with it.

Now we just need Mr. Wombat to send me a PM...
0_o
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anonymous_old

0_o wrote:

Why would a vigilante shoot someone who just shot them? That would be killing a confirmed innocent.
Well, maybe two Vigs could shoot each other before A<3 has a chance to confirm. One may be fake, after all.

0_o wrote:

..unless Aliens can become vigilantes via the Mad Scientist?
Maybe? How would drinking a vial give you a gun? Or, wait ... The Aliens probably have ray guns already...

I think anyone can gain the power of Vig, actually. Somehow a gun falls into their lap, and they know how to use it.
kuwarudo
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anonymous_old

kuwarudo wrote:

Can a Vigilante have more than one gun? Or bullet? Or plasma pack lol
Probably not. Otherwise they'd be like lone Aliens. The Town would lose quickly.
Azure_Kite

kuwarudo wrote:

So you mean there is more than one vigilante? Can a Vigilante have more than one gun? Or bullet? Or plasma pack lol

I'd be guessing that yes, a player could have a second gun, If the gun was found by a vigilante who hadn't fired theirs yet.
Two_old
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Rolled
losing interest :(
Azure_Kite

Rolled wrote:

losing interest :(

OH GOD NO! WE NEED ROLLED! *c'mon rabid, hayaku and get online already ;P
kuwarudo

Rolled wrote:

losing interest :(

Why do I feel unmoved
nardii
Here is my current suspicion list, brought to you by random.org:

1. kuwarudo
2. YellowYoshi1
3. oyeah1988
4. Lucidity
5. Doom
6. Agent
7. YoshiKart
8. Rabid
9. strager
10. foulcoon
11. Pasonia
12. thepianist
13. adam2046
14. Wojjan
15. Lilyko
16. 0_o
17. Saturos-fangirl
18. nardi11011
19. Rolled
20. rust45
21. Derekku
22. Azure_Kyte
23. Two
24. Todesengal
25. neo@lex
Azure_Kite

nardi11011 wrote:

Here is my current suspicion list, brought to you by random.org:
20. rust45
21. Derekku
22. Azure_Kyte
23. Two
24. Todesengal
25. neo@lex
:( I'm not trusted? I don't trust you either. ;P

I Don't Trust anyone <_<, >_>, ^_^,v_v,o.o,X.X
nardii

Azure_Kyte wrote:

nardi11011 wrote:

Here is my current suspicion list, brought to you by random.org:
20. rust45
21. Derekku
22. Azure_Kyte
23. Two
24. Todesengal
25. neo@lex
:( I'm not trusted? I don't trust you either. ;P

I Don't Trust anyone <_<, >_>, ^_^,v_v,o.o,X.X
Actually, according to the list I trust you more than I trust myself.
Azure_Kite
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kuwarudo
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Lucidity

nardi11011 wrote:

Here is my current suspicion list, brought to you by random.org:

1. kuwarudo
2. YellowYoshi1
3. oyeah1988
4. Lucidity
5. Doom
6. Agent
7. YoshiKart
8. Rabid
9. strager
10. foulcoon
11. Pasonia
12. thepianist
13. adam2046
14. Wojjan
15. Lilyko
16. 0_o
17. Saturos-fangirl
18. nardi11011
19. Rolled
20. rust45
21. Derekku
22. Azure_Kyte
23. Two
24. Todesengal
25. neo@lex
What a coincidence, that random list got all 5 of the Aliens at the top there ;o Mod must've used the same generator and it must not truly be random D:
anonymous_old

Lucidity wrote:

What a coincidence, that random list got all 5 of the Aliens at the top there ;o Mod must've used the same generator and it must not truly be random D:
Wait, I'm not in the top five... =[
LadySuburu
Against my better judgement, I offer to replace in for that guy who hasn't confirmed.
0_o
^yay
Two_old
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Wojjan

nardi11011 wrote:

Here is my current suspicion list, brought to you by random.org:

1. kuwarudo
2. YellowYoshi1
3. oyeah1988
4. Lucidity
5. Doom
6. Agent
7. YoshiKart
8. Rabid
9. strager
10. foulcoon
11. Pasonia
12. thepianist
13. adam2046
14. Wojjan
15. Lilyko
16. 0_o
17. Saturos-fangirl
18. nardi11011
19. Rolled
20. rust45
21. Derekku
22. Azure_Kyte
23. Two
24. Todesengal
25. neo@lex
Why are you less suspicious of certain people than yourself?
Also, the irony of Kuu being on top is too much to bear
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows

LadySuburu wrote:

Against my better judgement, I offer to replace in for that guy who hasn't confirmed.
o.o O rly?

In that case, I has an ultimatum for Rabid Wombat.

If he does not confirm within the next 24 hours (5:19 PM EST on July 31st), he shall be replaced by our good Lady Suburu, and Suburu shall receive Wombat's role.

A<3 has spoken.
Cuddlebun
oh thank GOD let's get this show on the road so we can lynch kuu decide who to vote.
Azure_Kite

Ace Of Hearts wrote:

A<3 has spoken.
Dun Dun DAAAN!

let's get this fragfest started ;p
kuwarudo

Todesengal wrote:

oh thank GOD let's get this show on the road so we can lynch kuu decide who to vote.
Oh sure lynch me again

You saw what happened in Game 2
Azure_Kite

kuwarudo wrote:

Oh sure lynch me again
isn't that kuu bullying?

or is he the vote puller?
0_o

Azure_Kyte wrote:

kuwarudo wrote:

Oh sure lynch me again
isn't that kuu bullying?

or is he the vote puller?
He just had a history of being annoying :P

I think he's over that now though...
Azure_Kite
I see. well good luck to everybody! :D
Two_old

Azure_Kyte wrote:

I see. well good luck to everybody! :D
alien

humans aren't that nice
Azure_Kite

Two wrote:

Azure_Kyte wrote:

humans aren't that nice
oh really? I've always believed in the milk of human kindness. Now I'm classified as an alien because of that...?
kuwarudo

Azure_Kyte wrote:

Two wrote:

Azure_Kyte wrote:

humans aren't that nice
oh really? I've always believed in the milk of human kindness. Now I'm classified as an alien because of that...?

Strange circumstances may occur to make that statement true
Cuddlebun
what is the milk of human kindness
Azure_Kite

Todesengal wrote:

what is the milk of human kindness?
Is that sarcasm? It's an expression describing the kindness in every person's heart.
YoshiKart
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Azure_Kite

YoshiKart wrote:

Humans --> Milk --> Cows --> Abduction --> Aliens

Huh...

Talk about taking it way out of context. XD
Rolled
Can we just pretend it is D1 and get this going :(
Lucidity

Azure_Kyte wrote:

Todesengal wrote:

what is the milk of human kindness?
Is that sarcasm? It's an expression describing the kindness in every person's heart.
How is milk related to a person's heart? I'm on to you.
RemixRave

Rolled wrote:

Can we just pretend it is D1 and get this going :(
Yeah srsly this is taking way way way too long.
Just give Rabid Wombat's role to LadySuburu.
We all know s/he will take this seriously
EDIT Misspelled "suburu"
Derekku

Rolled wrote:

Can we just pretend it is D1 and get this going :(
Some people are already interrogating others like it's D1, so feel free to go ahead and start :P
nardii

Rolled wrote:

Can we just pretend it is D1 and get this going :(
Vote Rolled for being impatient
0_o
it's only 4 more hours guys :P

we can start playing now, we just can't place official votes yet.
Neo@lex
Uhh, I'm sorry, but I kinda forgot I'm going on holiday for a few weeks...
If possible, I'd like to remain in the game, but if it can't be helped I'll quit.
nardii

neo@lex wrote:

Uhh, I'm sorry, but I kinda forgot I'm going on holiday for a few weeks...
If possible, I'd like to remain in the game, but if it can't be helped I'll quit.
Well now we need ANOTHER replacement or role transfer :|
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
*sits down with his tea* Okay guys, here's what going on at the moment.

I am now just as impatient as you all are, and it's been several days with no response from Rabid Wombat, and when I woke up (at 1 in the afternoon) and saw no response in my PM box from him, I became ready.

I'm gonna go ahead and declare that LadySuburu is going to get Rabid Wombat's role.

Once I send the role and Suburu confirms, we'll kick things off.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Okay, the Role ID is sent.

Rabid Wombat is now bereft of his place; as soon as I can get a confirm from Suburu, I will declare the start of Day 1.

Edit-in: For those curious about the order of my list: I thought you all knew? The list is in order of when I received your signups.
Two_old
hallelujah
anonymous_old

Ace Of Hearts wrote:

Edit-in: For those curious about the order of my list: I thought you all knew? The list is in order of when I received your signups.
Duh?
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Shit. Guys, we have a problem.

And it's my fault (I think so anyway).

Rabid Wombat just confirmed, but so did LadySuburu.

Suburu's came first, but I did tell Wombat 5:something today, and I did not wait as promised.

*thinks hard for a few moments* Wombat, and Suburu, please get in touch with each other and decide who is playing. It is my understanding that Suburu made her offer reluctantly, and seeing as Rabid did reply before my ultimatum was technically up, I should give him a chance to play if he really wants it.
RemixRave

neo@lex wrote:

Uhh, I'm sorry, but I kinda forgot I'm going on holiday for a few weeks...
If possible, I'd like to remain in the game, but if it can't be helped I'll quit.
There's our answer. Give Suburu Neo@lex's role
Cuddlebun
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Two_old
no, he didn't reply before it was up

you ended it before ladysuburu was even on afaik, since I saw her/his username on the bottom of the forum about 16 minutes after you posted it

it's ridiculous to waste more time
kuwarudo
I'd like to see Rabid Wombat, with his verbose answers
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
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Yuukari-Banteki
we could just lynch neo D1 ;o
Rolled

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

we could just lynch neo D1 ;o
Not going to happen.
Yuukari-Banteki

Rolled wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

we could just lynch neo D1 ;o
Not going to happen.
pay attention to emoticons plz

Edit: also #mafia
Rolled
Alright, I'm aware the game didn't start yet, etc. However I wanted to make sure I was the first to voice my beliefs in this thread (can't risk the chance of being AFK). This vote will most likely not be official (however, I don't mind if it is official. I will not be changing my vote) but on day 1 my vote will be towards SFG.

Everybody who has been paying attention to this game knows that there has been plenty of behind-the-scenes work going on right after confirmation PMs were sent out. Almost immediately, I talked to SFG because let's face it; she is a good player. I would have loved for her to be on the human side, and if she was a wolf, I knew she would be a huge threat (which has been proven true thus far. I am aware SFG has talked to a handful of you, and if you haven't talked to me, it's pretty likely that you believe she has an Aux role.)Anyways, I have ample ample ample information to back up that she is a wolf. If you are interested in this information, please PM me. I'm not going to make it public, and will only tell you the information if you give me reason to believe you are human.

Also, if it wasn't clear by now, role claim: Vanilla Civilian

note to A<3: I don't believe I'm violating any rules because as I've said I don't consider my vote being official. It's just a heads-up to the other players of what I plan on doing at the start of day 1.
Azure_Kite

Lucidity wrote:

I'm on to you.
The feeling's completely mutual.
anonymous_old

Azure_Kyte wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

I'm on to you.
The feeling's completely mutual.
So you're onto yourself?
Azure_Kite

strager wrote:

So you're onto yourself?
...yes, that's exactly it.

*sigh* Ima be the first lynched now for being unintentionally unclear in all my statements.
anonymous_old

Azure_Kyte wrote:

*sigh* Ima be the first lynched now for being unintentionally unclear in all my statements.
;P
Cuddlebun
way to completely ignore Rolled you guys now his feelings will be hurt
anonymous_old

Todesengal wrote:

way to completely ignore Rolled you guys now his feelings will be hurt
He's ignoring my PM's or is busy.
Yuukari-Banteki
I'm sorry Rolled, I still don't see why not being a civilian and claiming a civilian for the safety it offers makes me automatically a wolf. I also don't understand how you can be so sure that I'm a wolf - there is no evidence yet to confirm or deny ANY SINGLE ROLE. That evidence will come either when vigs shoot, when the priest rez's, or when information is received from night actions. You know as well as I am that we are both strong players. I make it a policy when I play to keep the strong players alive as best I can until I know for sure which side they fall on.

You, however, seem perfectly eager to lynch someone who is both a strong player and an aux on Day 1. So far the reasons you have given that I know of are 1. that i didnt know your "civilian code" (something which as far as I can tell, no one understands but you) and 2. You grilled me until I lost my head. You forget that pounding someone will get a result whether they are guilty or not.

taking control and being unchallenged tends to benefit the mafia rather than the town, also. Which is what Rolled was doing.

Care to explain yourself, Rolled?
Yuukari-Banteki

Todesengal wrote:

way to completely ignore Rolled you guys now his feelings will be hurt
i was afk for five hours what do you expect
Rolled
SFG, you only started claiming aux when I busted you after claiming vanilla. I guess your reasoning could be some-what valid, saying you didn't want to reveal you had an aux role to a potential wolf. However I've proven myself to you that I am not a wolf, and I'm sure you could tell just from my conversation with you alone that I am just a human trying to gather up the rest.

It disappointed you when you realized that I had numerous other vanillas with me right off the bat. Because you thought the questioning I was feeding you was BS. Hence, you insisted on still claiming vanilla because one of the strongest strategies to go on in these games is to lynch all liars (which you are, and have lied.) However, when you were questioned from another angle you realized that claiming vanilla would not work. Therefore you claimed a defensive Aux role. Which I told you, claiming an aux to me was the only way I'd believe you however you were too deep in the hole to dig yourself out any time soon.

There has been holes in your stories left and right and you know it. I will glady fill you in on any you may have missed once the game is over.

You know you crack under pressure SFG. You've said it yourself, and I have cracked you. The rest of the wolves will fall shortly after you, keep no doubt in your mind.

edit: let me just throw in here that you never wanted to claim aux to me because you thought I was a werewolf? You just publicly claimed an aux role SFG, for all the wolves to hear. Lets break this down:
Okay, let's say you are a human. You just now announced you have an aux role and believe you are a valuable player. Hell, you played a huge part in Pasonia's WWG an caused the wolves to cry. The last thing the wolves would want to do is keep you around in this game.

The above example isn't a problem at all though. Because the REAL reasoning you just claimed an aux is to keep you from getting lynched by civilians. You know damn well that you have no consequences from claiming an aux role because your pack of wolves will not kill you off for claiming such a thing. Hopefully the other civilians will see this in your post and do the right thing on day 1.

Your originally reasoning of claiming vanilla to me via PM is because you didn't want me, who you "thought" is a wolf to kill you off for having an aux.. Now you just confessed to every single player that you have an aux role? I think not.

What was that.. you mentioned it to me earlier...
<SFG|Rh> self-preservation is scumtell

Oh, yeah.

SFG is a wolf


edit: typos.
anonymous_old

Rolled wrote:

Which I told you, claiming an aux to me was the only way I'd believe you
Rolehunting? Although this benefits either site, it helps the Aliens more than it does the Humans.

I don't have much to comment on the rest at the moment.
kuwarudo
Walls of text bore me D:
adam2046
He said by that point he already believed that SFG was a wolf, he was asking her to claim to observe her or something along those lines.
anonymous_old

adam2046 wrote:

He said by that point he already believed that SFG was a wolf, he was asking her to claim to observe her or something along those lines.
He said she already claimed.

I think.
Rolled
tldr:
SFG did not want to claim an aux role to me because she thought I was a wolf. She claimed vanilla, and I proved to her that I knew she was not vanilla.
I brought my suspicion towards SFG to this thread
SFG then claimed Aux PUBLICLY, which was against her original reasoning for not claiming it to me.

SFG had nothing to be worried about claiming Aux in the thread, because wolves are not a threat to her as she is a wolf. The only effect she planned on receiving from claiming Aux is to get some human lynch-votes off of her back.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
There's nothing in my PMBox. Suburu, Wombat, one of you needs to PM me and tell me you two talked! I can't start things until someone says there's been a discussion and a decision!!!
Two_old
why don't you freaking make a decision yourself

my god
Yuukari-Banteki
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Two_old
that was a pretty big waste of time, sfg

his arguments against you were made of steel
Yuukari-Banteki

Two wrote:

that was a pretty big waste of time, sfg

his arguments against you were made of steel
so you're perfectly willing to kill an aux right on D1. welp, i wish you guys best of luck in defeating the wolves or aliens or whatever the fuck they are.
Two_old
actually yes, I am

I had already planned to vote for you in the next game immediately after pasonia's game, regardless of what happened. You just talk too much to be worth keeping alive; too risky if you're a wolf. The fact that you have a giant pile of evidence against you is just icing on the cake.
0_o
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anonymous_old

Two wrote:

I had already planned to vote for you in the next game immediately after pasonia's game, regardless of what happened.
What the fuck.

That's not playing the game.

Two wrote:

You just talk too much to be worth keeping alive
???

So a game full of lurkers is the best strategy? We'll never win that way.

Two wrote:

The fact that you have a giant pile of evidence against you is just icing on the cake.

Two wrote:

his arguments against you were made of steel
I see only one argument against SFG, and it has holes, which have clearly been pointed out by SFG.
anonymous_old
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Two_old
oh cool, strager's an alien too
anonymous_old
diaf 0_o
foulcoon
Ace is an alien, keel him.
Echo

Two wrote:

I had already planned to vote for you in the next game immediately after pasonia's game, regardless of what happened.
You're voting her because she "talks too much", in other words not because she's likely a wolf/mafia/whatever, but just because you're biased against her for reasons outside the game? W. T. F.

SFG wrote:

There has been holes in your stories left and right and you know it. I will glady fill you in on any you may have missed once the game is over.
Holes that you made, yes. It's called "scumpainting."
Actually, it's called "setting up a straw man" - not quite the same thing imo


(mod: the game hasn't started yet, so I guess it's still ok for me to post? if you think i said too much or if it's just not ok just ask me or a mod to delete this)
adam2046
Geez guys...
You vote Kuu all the time and were prepared to lynch him "cause he's annoying"
Echo
that's different

kuu is (no offense) a very inattentive player
sfg is a good player
adam2046
Good at being a wolf?
I feel it's like "I think it's too dangerous to have her alive this game no matter what." or something
Echo
All "good" players are good as both town and scum. If you go by that thinking, then by all means kill all the "good" players, then this game can rot like BM1 since there'll only be lurkers left.

Does "lynch [someone] because he is good" even sound remotely right to you?
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