Confirmed
Role Claim: Twilight Townie
wooo
Role Claim: Twilight Townie
wooo
I'm with adam here.adam2046 wrote:
What the hell does that do?
Uh, which?adam2046 wrote:
I mean what the hell does that role do?
Oh, I musta missed that.adam2046 wrote:
0_o wrote:
Confirmed
Role Claim: Twilight Townie
wooo
But what about the rest of the day? Can they eat the other players?strager wrote:
Oh, I musta missed that.adam2046 wrote:
0_o wrote:
Confirmed
Role Claim: Twilight Townie
wooo
Yeah, I guess so? Maybe you're like a warewolf and you're only a Townie during the Twilight. ;P
You guess or you know?0_o wrote:
Twilight Townie is just what LS called vanilla townies in this I guess
That's how I understand it Oostrager wrote:
So this game is like a normal Mafia game (with Night), except you can talk during the Night and it's called Twilight?
I had no mention of abilities in my PM, so I'm pretty sure I'm just a vanilla, unless there is something else LadySuburu isn't telling me >_>Echo wrote:
You guess or you know?0_o wrote:
Twilight Townie is just what LS called vanilla townies in this I guess
strager wrote:
You couldn't investigate T0, could you?
Saturos-fangirl wrote:
strager wrote:
You couldn't investigate T0, could you?
no, or if i could i didn't realize it. Subi said nothing and i didn't actually try...
=.=LadySuburu wrote:
It is now twilight 0. There will be no actions taken this twilight, but you can post.
I thought that was just lynching. Oh well.Lucidity wrote:
Saturos-fangirl wrote:
strager wrote:
You couldn't investigate T0, could you?
no, or if i could i didn't realize it. Subi said nothing and i didn't actually try...=.=LadySuburu wrote:
It is now twilight 0. There will be no actions taken this twilight, but you can post.
Derekku Chan wrote:
Role Claim: Twilight Brownie
I'm delicious <3
No, I'm not a cop. But I have the power of baking brownies for everyone =) (except for mafia, they don't get any)Saturos-fangirl wrote:
Derekku Chan wrote:
Role Claim: Twilight Brownie
I'm delicious <3
wait this just struck me
brownie == cop?
or are you just joking around o0
So uh... Who's not getting brownies? ;PDerekku Chan wrote:
(except for mafia, they don't get any)
So all we have to do is find out who didn't get a brownie? Sweet. LITERALLYDerekku Chan wrote:
No, I'm not a cop. But I have the power of baking brownies for everyone =) (except for mafia, they don't get any)
Does this mean that my brownies might be "special" brownies? X3adam2046 wrote:
Unvote
SFG I asked LadySuburu as soon as I found out there was another cop and he said that Sane mafia is justa name, apparently it's only called sane mafia because crazy mafia was taken...
So we don't actually know if there are sanities or not.
There could be two Mafia and five Doctors? xD That seems pretty balanced.Lucidity wrote:
There's also only 7 players in this game, which means that having too many aux roles or special abilities would make the game imbalanced.
Yes Yes.strager wrote:
Mod: Will LyLo be announced? Will roles be revealed upon death?
That'd be very stupid, unless Doctors can protect themselves during the Night.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
maybe adam fake-claimed cop because he was actually the doctor
Nope. As you can see, I follow a general trend in my games.strager wrote:
Mod: Can a Doctor protect himself in this game?
Having any idea on the setup (even just a guess which you can discard later) is better than having no idea on the setup, especially for certain roles like the Doctor (so he knows who to protect) and the Cop (so he knows if he'll get a Guilty on a Townie due to their role).Saturos-fangirl wrote:
oh also its kinda stupid to speculate on setup
You're implying that roles have extra abilities only during the Twilight? I can't think of anything other than Night action-style abilities, but there may be some...LadySuburu wrote:
Also, did anyone bother to read the first sentence of the intro(First post)? lol
Not that one. This one.strager wrote:
You're implying that roles have extra abilities only during the Twilight? I can't think of anything other than Night action-style abilities, but there may be some...LadySuburu wrote:
Also, did anyone bother to read the first sentence of the intro(First post)? lol
Still, this "proves" there are at least some aux roles.
ffs it's not like I'm disrupting any "discussion"adam2046 wrote:
Vote: Derekku
That's quite enough of that.
Then...Derekku Chan wrote:
ffs it's not like I'm disrupting any "discussion"adam2046 wrote:
Vote: Derekku
That's quite enough of that.
That's what LS named me so that's that.
You say LS is your mother? Now THAT'S a twist in the plot.Derekku Chan, after edit wrote:
ffs it's not like I'm disrupting any "discussion"adam2046 wrote:
Vote: Derekku
That's quite enough of that.
That's what LS named me so that's that. I'll shut up now
strager wrote:
Then...Derekku Chan wrote:
ffs it's not like I'm disrupting any "discussion"adam2046 wrote:
Vote: Derekku
That's quite enough of that.
That's what LS named me so that's that.You say LS is your mother? Now THAT'S a twist in the plot.Derekku Chan, after edit wrote:
ffs it's not like I'm disrupting any "discussion"adam2046 wrote:
Vote: Derekku
That's quite enough of that.
That's what LS named me so that's that. I'll shut up now
lolololololol.0_o wrote:
Wait.. so you are actually a "Twilight Brownie"?Derekku Chan wrote:
That's what LS named me so that's that. I'll shut up now
You're the one stretching open your hole.Derekku Chan wrote:
You're the one gaying it up, strager >_>
Not Twilight Townie?Derekku Chan wrote:
Anyway, regardless of what I'm named, I'm a "townie". So... for clarificationRole Claim: Townie
knowing the setup helps mafia more than townstrager wrote:
Having any idea on the setup (even just a guess which you can discard later) is better than having no idea on the setup, especially for certain roles like the Doctor (so he knows who to protect) and the Cop (so he knows if he'll get a Guilty on a Townie due to their role).Saturos-fangirl wrote:
oh also its kinda stupid to speculate on setup
How so? I think you tried explaining in another game (BM1? where YOU were Mafia?) but I couldn't really understand why, I think. I'll reread that discussion.Echo wrote:
knowing the setup helps mafia more than townstrager wrote:
Having any idea on the setup (even just a guess which you can discard later) is better than having no idea on the setup, especially for certain roles like the Doctor (so he knows who to protect) and the Cop (so he knows if he'll get a Guilty on a Townie due to their role).Saturos-fangirl wrote:
oh also its kinda stupid to speculate on setup
By memory:Echo wrote:
i skimmed the last ~4 pages or so, someone please summarise any role claims
Care to clarify?adam2046 wrote:
DAY COP
DAAAAAAAAAAY COOOOOOOOOP
Sheesh
It was clearly bolded.
End of last sentence:strager wrote:
I still don't see how that works, but you're entitled to your own logic and I don't have to agree, really.
That was quick?strager wrote:
it does sound like a possible tell, so that's why I'm agreeing on this point.
First was about how Echo feels information about roles (how roles work, and what roles are in the game) helps the Mafia and not the Town.0_o wrote:
First sentence:End of last sentence:strager wrote:
I still don't see how that works, but you're entitled to your own logic and I don't have to agree, really.That was quick?strager wrote:
it does sound like a possible tell, so that's why I'm agreeing on this point.
So I assume you haven't investigated anyone?adam2046 wrote:
I get results right away.
At my own choice, I will tell you all this piece of information.strager wrote:
Hmm...
Mod: Do Twilight actions (in particular, a Twilight kill by the Mafia) take place immediately, or are all actions queued to the end of the Twilight like in other Mafia games?
I ask because if adam doesn't investigate speak his result during Day 1, and Twilight actions are taken immediately, he may be killed before we know his results.
Does a kill count as a block for Cops?LadySuburu wrote:
In this game (and this game only), unless a role can be blocked by another, the actions will take place intantly. Therefore, for example, if a cop does his action and gets results almost immediately, then there isn't a role that can block the cop during that phase. Other than that, I will not give any info on this subject.
S1, if he doesn't get killed immediately as it happens.strager wrote:
Does a kill count as a block for Cops?LadySuburu wrote:
In this game (and this game only), unless a role can be blocked by another, the actions will take place intantly. Therefore, for example, if a cop does his action and gets results almost immediately, then there isn't a role that can block the cop during that phase. Other than that, I will not give any info on this subject.
Scenario one: Cop investigates, tells results. Then is killed.
Scenario two: Cop killed. Then, investigates. Can't tell results.
Which scenario will take place?
Well, I kinda usually do that. I like to know every detail about every role I can so I can see how things can play out, and make a decision (and encourage others to) which is most benefitial for the Town.Echo wrote:
strager is definitely digging too deeply into roles for my comfort
BM1, Echo was Mafia and I was a Townie. Echo used the same argument there as he is here, which makes me suspicious of him. Not really something solid, but it's something.Lucidity wrote:
I have to agree with Echo about strager. Rolefishing benefits the Mafia the most. Apparently Echo explained this to him in BM1 and he still persisted in doing it in this game. After Echo pointed it out to him again he brushed it off and continued.
Maybe I should add the quotes I was referring to in the post with my alleged inconsistency, to hopefully clarify better.Lucidity wrote:
Not to mention the inconsistency in his post pointed out by 0_o. Did he type the post and then decided to throw in an "I agree" to make sure he doesn't ruffle too many feathers? He might have just thought about the idea while typing the post and by the end of it realised that Echo was making sense. The problem with this theory is that he tried to make a (bad) excuse for his inconsistency in his next post. (Which means he did not have an epiphany halfway through the post) He also carries on throwing information out into the public domain, completely disregarding Echo's warning, which he claims to understand.
I was agreeing with one argument and disagreeing with the other. The one I disagreed to I later changed my mind on.strager wrote:
I still don't see how that works, but you're entitled to your own logic and I don't have to agree, really. However, you did say the same thing in BM1, where you were a Mafia, so I'm kind of suspicious about that.Echo wrote:
What good is it to the town if we know that there is, for example, a doctor or a cop? But if the mafia know that they exist, they can start looking for tells because they *know* the role exists. When they don't know the role exists, they'll need to resort to guessing, which increases the chances of survival of the PRs.I wouldn't say I'm rolefishing. I'm not asking people to claim. I'm just looking at what information we have from claims to see what's possible and what is the better action to take given this information. For example, see my post about who/how the Cops should investigate.Echo wrote:
Also rolefishing is a scumtell because there is no benefit for town to know who has what role (unless you're the doctor and trying to find the cop(s) or something), whereas the mafia will love to know who has what role so they can plan the NKs
I do have to agree that rolefishing is probably suspicious, though I haven't seen it applied in a game I've played/followed (unless I'm that blind), so I can't say if it's reliable. I'm sure you've the experience, and it does sound like a possible tell, so that's why I'm agreeing on this point.
Of course; if it hurts the Town (by helping the Mafia), I obviously shouldn't do it.Lucidity wrote:
(Hopefully?) he has stopped now, by acknowledging Echo for the second time.
Yup, and this is what I saw in my last post too.Lucidity wrote:
strager, you're on the top of my suspicion list at the moment for trying to get all the information you possibly can into the open. The best course of action is surely to trust that the aux roles do their jobs to the best of their ability with the information that they've managed to obtain. If you throw all roles into the open and devise (incomplete) strategies publicly it only benefits the Mafia. They will know exactly what to do in order to stop the strategy from working, wouldn't they? The only time you should try to implement a strategy publicly is if it is guaranteed to work, no matter what the Mafia do.
Kinda as I said before: I saw this in my last post.Lucidity wrote:
Finally, what is the point of speculating about possible roles? Especially on Day 1. LS has admitted that she uses basic rules, which might apply to roles too. But any guesswork is just as bad (or worse) as not guessing at all. If your guess is wrong (and let's face it. you have nothing to base your guesses on yet) then it is to the detriment to the town. Could you explain how guessing roles and devising (public) strategies around them benefits the Town?
OP wrote:
Night never comes. There's only twilight. This is also a precursor to BM2. (Night actions take place during twilight, and during twilight you can post.)
Night actions take place during twilightgood job
It doesn't say anything about Day actions, only Night actions (which are routed into Twilight actions in this game).Saturos-fangirl wrote:
and about the daycop thing, adam, i guess you're bad at being mafia cus you didn't read the opening post well enough.OP wrote:
Night never comes. There's only twilight. This is also a precursor to BM2. (Night actions take place during twilight, and during twilight you can post.)Night actions take place during twilightgood job
vote adam
I don't think a Day Cop is.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
yeah but Cop is a night-based role
oh well its RVS anywaysstrager wrote:
I don't think a Day Cop is.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
yeah but Cop is a night-based role