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Topic Starter
It is now twilight 0. There will be no actions taken this twilight, but you can post.
Vote: LadySuburu
Role Claim: Host
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Role Claim: Host
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PS: !confirm
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Confoim.
Vote: Derekku Chan
Do lynches occur in Twilight? Are there Twilight kills or something? I've never played a Nightless game... Lemme look at the rules.
Nope, I don't see anything regarding the Twilight.
Vote: Derekku Chan
Do lynches occur in Twilight? Are there Twilight kills or something? I've never played a Nightless game... Lemme look at the rules.
Nope, I don't see anything regarding the Twilight.
oh right i want this discussion started fast so
Claim: Cop
whoevers doctor protect me please ^_^ but dont tell me who you are~
Claim: Cop
whoevers doctor protect me please ^_^ but dont tell me who you are~
Hey, I'm also the Cop...Saturos-fangirl wrote:
oh right i want this discussion started fast so
Claim: Cop
whoevers doctor protect me please ^_^ but dont tell me who you are~
Claim: Day Cop
All the cops in the house put your hands up!
All the cops in the house scan yourself today/night!
All the mafia in the house put your hands up!
Everyone else put your hands down!
All the cops in the house put your hands up!
All the cops in the house scan yourself today/night!
All the mafia in the house put your hands up!
Everyone else put your hands down!
/me stretches strager's hands strait forward.
"Like this?"
"Like this?"
*raises something other than his hand*
My leg you perverts fffff
Role Claim: Sibling
jkjk
My leg you perverts fffff
Role Claim: Sibling
jkjk
I keep reading this topic as "shirtless mafia."
I vote: rename.
I vote: rename.
Vote rename depending on who the mafia are. ^_^
SFG and strager for mafia!
SFG and strager for mafia!
*takes off shirt* =<
K I am leaving this game.Derekku Chan wrote:
*takes off shirt* =<
Requesting replacement.
You're just jealous because you're a butterfly and thus A) Can't have a shirt and B) can't have a sexy body <3
why are there three cops
inb4 one of us turns out not to be
inb4 one of us turns out not to be
Or there's another cop.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
why are there three cops
inb4 one of us turns out not to be
Confirmed
Role Claim: Twilight Townie
wooo
Role Claim: Twilight Townie
wooo
aren't we just joking around since it's not Day 1 yet? 
Vote: Re-claim day 1 if you're actually srs xd
Vote: Re-claim day 1 if you're actually srs xd
What the hell does that do?
I'm with adam here.adam2046 wrote:
What the hell does that do?
Unless it's an eccentric role, or if you are a Cop and you know there's a Doctor or something, there's no reason to claim.
I mean what the hell does that role do?
Uh, which?adam2046 wrote:
I mean what the hell does that role do?
Cop??
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I'm not special, I do nothing
Twilight Townie is just what LS called vanilla townies in this I guess
Twilight Townie is just what LS called vanilla townies in this I guess
Oh, I musta missed that.adam2046 wrote:
0_o wrote:
Confirmed
Role Claim: Twilight Townie
wooo
Yeah, I guess so? Maybe you're like a warewolf and you're only a Townie during the Twilight. ;P
But what about the rest of the day? Can they eat the other players?strager wrote:
Oh, I musta missed that.adam2046 wrote:
0_o wrote:
Confirmed
Role Claim: Twilight Townie
wooo
Yeah, I guess so? Maybe you're like a warewolf and you're only a Townie during the Twilight. ;P
You guess or you know?0_o wrote:
Twilight Townie is just what LS called vanilla townies in this I guess
Topic Starter
Game start, Day 1 go!
Deadline end of monday, central. Remember that even when it's twilight, you can post.
7 Alive, 4 to lynch.
Deadline end of monday, central. Remember that even when it's twilight, you can post.
7 Alive, 4 to lynch.
So um...
Can we disregard at everything said up to this point and say it again if necessary?
Can we disregard at everything said up to this point and say it again if necessary?
Eheheh veeery funny Lucy.
...Vote Lucidity
...Vote Lucidity
vote: Lucidity
This all feels very familiar somehow.
This all feels very familiar somehow.
inb4jester
Uh... Vote: adam2046 for jumping on Lucidity? (ps this is a random vote hehe)
Uh... Vote: adam2046 for jumping on Lucidity? (ps this is a random vote hehe)
Meh, I'd rather not.
So this game is like a normal Mafia game (with Night), except you can talk during the Night and it's called Twilight?
So this game is like a normal Mafia game (with Night), except you can talk during the Night and it's called Twilight?
That's how I understand it Oostrager wrote:
So this game is like a normal Mafia game (with Night), except you can talk during the Night and it's called Twilight?
Also, Unvote.
I had no mention of abilities in my PM, so I'm pretty sure I'm just a vanilla, unless there is something else LadySuburu isn't telling me >_>Echo wrote:
You guess or you know?0_o wrote:
Twilight Townie is just what LS called vanilla townies in this I guess
oh i actually meant to claim cop
i dont think there are four of us this time because it IS "Sane" Mafia after all, and using insane/naive/paranoid cops would be oxymoronic
i am pretty sure theres a doctor somewhere who can protect me though
i dont think there are four of us this time because it IS "Sane" Mafia after all, and using insane/naive/paranoid cops would be oxymoronic
i am pretty sure theres a doctor somewhere who can protect me though
You couldn't investigate T0, could you?
Role Claim: Twilight Brownie
I'm delicious <3
I'm delicious <3
strager wrote:
You couldn't investigate T0, could you?
no, or if i could i didn't realize it. Subi said nothing and i didn't actually try...
Saturos-fangirl wrote:
strager wrote:
You couldn't investigate T0, could you?
no, or if i could i didn't realize it. Subi said nothing and i didn't actually try...
=.=LadySuburu wrote:
It is now twilight 0. There will be no actions taken this twilight, but you can post.
I thought that was just lynching. Oh well.Lucidity wrote:
Saturos-fangirl wrote:
strager wrote:
You couldn't investigate T0, could you?
no, or if i could i didn't realize it. Subi said nothing and i didn't actually try...=.=LadySuburu wrote:
It is now twilight 0. There will be no actions taken this twilight, but you can post.
Derekku Chan wrote:
Role Claim: Twilight Brownie
I'm delicious <3
wait this just struck me
brownie == cop?
or are you just joking around o0
No, I'm not a cop. But I have the power of baking brownies for everyone =) (except for mafia, they don't get any)Saturos-fangirl wrote:
Derekku Chan wrote:
Role Claim: Twilight Brownie
I'm delicious <3
wait this just struck me
brownie == cop?
or are you just joking around o0
So uh... Who's not getting brownies? ;PDerekku Chan wrote:
(except for mafia, they don't get any)
Derekku isnt getting brownies cus hes totally the mafia
(random) vote: Derekku
(random) vote: Derekku
So all we have to do is find out who didn't get a brownie? Sweet. LITERALLYDerekku Chan wrote:
No, I'm not a cop. But I have the power of baking brownies for everyone =) (except for mafia, they don't get any)
Unvote
SFG I asked LadySuburu as soon as I found out there was another cop and he said that Sane mafia is justa name, apparently it's only called sane mafia because crazy mafia was taken...
So we don't actually know if there are sanities or not.
SFG I asked LadySuburu as soon as I found out there was another cop and he said that Sane mafia is justa name, apparently it's only called sane mafia because crazy mafia was taken...
So we don't actually know if there are sanities or not.
Does this mean that my brownies might be "special" brownies? X3adam2046 wrote:
Unvote
SFG I asked LadySuburu as soon as I found out there was another cop and he said that Sane mafia is justa name, apparently it's only called sane mafia because crazy mafia was taken...
So we don't actually know if there are sanities or not.
I would be surprised if there wasn't different sanities this game, having multiple sane cops seems unlikely...
It was renamed from "Nightless Crazy Mafia" because I didn't want LS's series mixed up with my CM series.
With two Cop claims, I doubt one of them will survive to tell his or her tale for Day 2, unless one is lying (WIFOM: Mafia know this and don't kill a claimed Cop, making them both suspicious (how many Mafia are there anyway?)) or we have a Doctor (or two? xD) and some luck.
I'm inclined to believe 0_o on his role because he mentioned "Twilight Townie" instead of "Vanilla Townie." I don't think anyone but a Twilight Townie would know the name of the Vanilla Townie role except by a wild guess and a boat load of luck, or some knowledgeable Mafia or aux role (or cheating...).
With two Cop claims, I doubt one of them will survive to tell his or her tale for Day 2, unless one is lying (WIFOM: Mafia know this and don't kill a claimed Cop, making them both suspicious (how many Mafia are there anyway?)) or we have a Doctor (or two? xD) and some luck.
I'm inclined to believe 0_o on his role because he mentioned "Twilight Townie" instead of "Vanilla Townie." I don't think anyone but a Twilight Townie would know the name of the Vanilla Townie role except by a wild guess and a boat load of luck, or some knowledgeable Mafia or aux role (or cheating...).
These unkown role games just have too many possibilities :/ I think it's best to stick to assuming that everyone was assigned a common/basic role. Yes, someone could be a Mafia Cop that shows up as innocent to other cops and also has 2 votes, but we'll never guess that right and I'm sure LadySuburu is aware of that fact. Speculation will never amount to more than pure guess work. There's also only 7 players in this game, which means that having too many aux roles or special abilities would make the game imbalanced.
There could be two Mafia and five Doctors? xD That seems pretty balanced.Lucidity wrote:
There's also only 7 players in this game, which means that having too many aux roles or special abilities would make the game imbalanced.
Anyway, there is a chance there are two Cops running around, at least one Vanilla Townie (aka Twilight Townie), and, of course, one or more Mafia (probably one or two for a game this small; perhaps two if we really do have two Cops).
Actually, with a bit of thinking, that means D2 is LyLo assuming two Mafia. That's either one or two investigations with two Cops. Assuming one (Mafia kills one of the two Cops), that's a 1/5 chance of winning past D2 (if a Townie is lynched D1) based on the living Cop's result (and even then the Cop could be insane, screwing that all up). Unless there are more, highly helpful or protective Townie roles, two Mafia is much too imbalanced. So I think it's safe to say there's only one Mafia. Perhaps the Mafia is a role blocker to counter the two Cops?
So here's what I suspect:
1 Mafia Goon or Mafia Roleblocker
1 Sane Cop (adam or SFG)
1 Insane Cop (adam or SFG)
1 Vanilla Townie (0_o)
3 Unknown Townies, probably Vanilla Townies
Remaining players: Derekku Chan, Echo, Lucidity, strager
This assumes all serious claims thus far are true. I'm not so sure there are two Cops unless the Mafia is a Roleblocker. We'll have to wait until Day 2 to figure that out ("no result" from one of the Cops).
Comments?
Mod: Will LyLo be announced? Will roles be revealed upon death?
Topic Starter
Yes Yes.strager wrote:
Mod: Will LyLo be announced? Will roles be revealed upon death?
i move that the topic be renamed "Nightless Mafia" then cus thats both different and doesnt imply that we're all sane here.
On a different note, i wouldnt put it past Subi to have all sorts of crazy "imbalanced" roles in here to balance things out.
inb4 unknown shadow lol
also i still think theres a doctor around...somewhere...maybe adam fake-claimed cop because he was actually the doctor or maybe one of the other people who havent claimed
imma cool cop~
On a different note, i wouldnt put it past Subi to have all sorts of crazy "imbalanced" roles in here to balance things out.
inb4 unknown shadow lol
also i still think theres a doctor around...somewhere...maybe adam fake-claimed cop because he was actually the doctor or maybe one of the other people who havent claimed
imma cool cop~oh also its kinda stupid to speculate on setup just based on what i know of Subi. i mean theres gonna be some super-crazy role or two or four in here anyways, and 0_o might magically morph into a knowledgeable townie or smth.
Lucidity, Echo, adam, i want you guys to start talking so i can scumpaint people
EDIT: oh and i need to bash strager for editing his post to make it correct ... *bash*
Lucidity, Echo, adam, i want you guys to start talking so i can scumpaint people
EDIT: oh and i need to bash strager for editing his post to make it correct ... *bash*
That'd be very stupid, unless Doctors can protect themselves during the Night.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
maybe adam fake-claimed cop because he was actually the doctor
Mod: Can a Doctor protect himself in this game?
Topic Starter
Nope. As you can see, I follow a general trend in my games.strager wrote:
Mod: Can a Doctor protect himself in this game?
LyLo announced.
Roles revealed upon death.
Doctors cannot protect themselves.
:3
Topic Starter
Also, did anyone bother to read the first sentence of the intro(First post)? lol
*back to playing games*
*back to playing games*
Having any idea on the setup (even just a guess which you can discard later) is better than having no idea on the setup, especially for certain roles like the Doctor (so he knows who to protect) and the Cop (so he knows if he'll get a Guilty on a Townie due to their role).Saturos-fangirl wrote:
oh also its kinda stupid to speculate on setup
You're implying that roles have extra abilities only during the Twilight? I can't think of anything other than Night action-style abilities, but there may be some...LadySuburu wrote:
Also, did anyone bother to read the first sentence of the intro(First post)? lol
Still, this "proves" there are at least some aux roles.
Topic Starter
Not that one. This one.strager wrote:
You're implying that roles have extra abilities only during the Twilight? I can't think of anything other than Night action-style abilities, but there may be some...LadySuburu wrote:
Also, did anyone bother to read the first sentence of the intro(First post)? lol
Still, this "proves" there are at least some aux roles.
"(Also, the title is a lie... somewhat.)"
Though... I'm not saying there aren't roles that have actions in the twilight. :3
i think he means the "this title is a lie...somewhat" thing
Hmm, do you think it is wise for both Cops to investigate themselves? On one hand, we can discredit two possible sanities. On the other, the Mafia could pick both off Cops before they come up with anything conclusive about another player. In that other hand we see the chance of a Doctor who protects one of the Cops long enough to get two investigations (self and another person) and hopefully discover who the Mafia is. Or, the Cop could be the Mafia and win D2 (D2 has 7-2*2 = 3 players) by framing someone else in the same way.
You could also both scan the person who is lynched D1. Pretty much the same as investigating yourself, I think.
Or you can both target different players and hope for the best. I'm hoping for a Doctor so we can at least get two investigations.
Mod: Can a Cop investigate a dead person?
At the above to posts: blah.
Are there any Day actions? xD
You could also both scan the person who is lynched D1. Pretty much the same as investigating yourself, I think.
Or you can both target different players and hope for the best. I'm hoping for a Doctor so we can at least get two investigations.
Mod: Can a Cop investigate a dead person?
At the above to posts: blah.
Are there any Day actions? xD
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Mod: can a cop investigate a dying person
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*talk*
Nothing to say at this point in time.
Nothing to say at this point in time.
Good news, everyone! The brownies just came out of the oven and will be cool and ready to eat in just a few minutes ^_^
EDIT: They're also heart shaped like in my avatar :3
EDIT: They're also heart shaped like in my avatar :3
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Vote: Derekku
That's quite enough of that.
That's quite enough of that.
Topic Starter
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ffs it's not like I'm disrupting any "discussion"adam2046 wrote:
Vote: Derekku
That's quite enough of that.
That's what LS named me so that's that. I'll shut up now
Then...Derekku Chan wrote:
ffs it's not like I'm disrupting any "discussion"adam2046 wrote:
Vote: Derekku
That's quite enough of that.
That's what LS named me so that's that.
You say LS is your mother? Now THAT'S a twist in the plot.Derekku Chan, after edit wrote:
ffs it's not like I'm disrupting any "discussion"adam2046 wrote:
Vote: Derekku
That's quite enough of that.
That's what LS named me so that's that. I'll shut up now
strager wrote:
Then...Derekku Chan wrote:
ffs it's not like I'm disrupting any "discussion"adam2046 wrote:
Vote: Derekku
That's quite enough of that.
That's what LS named me so that's that.You say LS is your mother? Now THAT'S a twist in the plot.Derekku Chan, after edit wrote:
ffs it's not like I'm disrupting any "discussion"adam2046 wrote:
Vote: Derekku
That's quite enough of that.
That's what LS named me so that's that. I'll shut up now
EDIT: wait that kinda looks like a nodding motion uhhh oh fuck it *leaves*
unvote
vote strager
vote strager
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lolololololol.0_o wrote:
Wait.. so you are actually a "Twilight Brownie"?Derekku Chan wrote:
That's what LS named me so that's that. I'll shut up now
I didn't know Derekku was black.
He sounds much too white. =<
Maybe he's a white brownie? Oxymoronic...
(Can't believe I missed that meaning ... Thought Derekku was saying LS was her mother.)
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You're the one gaying it up, strager >_>
Anyway, regardless of what I'm named, I'm a "townie". So... for clarification
Role Claim: Townie
Anyway, regardless of what I'm named, I'm a "townie". So... for clarification
Role Claim: TownieYou're the one stretching open your hole.Derekku Chan wrote:
You're the one gaying it up, strager >_>
(Your mouth that is.)
((That doesn't make it any less sick.))
Not Twilight Townie?Derekku Chan wrote:
Anyway, regardless of what I'm named, I'm a "townie". So... for clarification
knowing the setup helps mafia more than townstrager wrote:
Having any idea on the setup (even just a guess which you can discard later) is better than having no idea on the setup, especially for certain roles like the Doctor (so he knows who to protect) and the Cop (so he knows if he'll get a Guilty on a Townie due to their role).Saturos-fangirl wrote:
oh also its kinda stupid to speculate on setup
i skimmed the last ~4 pages or so, someone please summarise any role claims
oh, mod vote count ty
i claimed cop about three times now
adam also claimed cop and Derekku and i think 0_o claimed townie
adam also claimed cop and Derekku and i think 0_o claimed townie
How so? I think you tried explaining in another game (BM1? where YOU were Mafia?) but I couldn't really understand why, I think. I'll reread that discussion.Echo wrote:
knowing the setup helps mafia more than townstrager wrote:
Having any idea on the setup (even just a guess which you can discard later) is better than having no idea on the setup, especially for certain roles like the Doctor (so he knows who to protect) and the Cop (so he knows if he'll get a Guilty on a Townie due to their role).Saturos-fangirl wrote:
oh also its kinda stupid to speculate on setup
By memory:Echo wrote:
i skimmed the last ~4 pages or so, someone please summarise any role claims
SFG claims Cop
adam claims Cop
0_o claims Twilight Townie
Derekku claims Townie
Topic Starter
adam - 1 (Derekku)
Derekku - 1 (adam)
strager - 1 (SFG)
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What good is it to the town if we know that there is, for example, a doctor or a cop? But if the mafia know that they exist, they can start looking for tells because they *know* the role exists. When they don't know the role exists, they'll need to resort to guessing, which increases the chances of survival of the PRs.
Also rolefishing is a scumtell because there is no benefit for town to know who has what role (unless you're the doctor and trying to find the cop(s) or something), whereas the mafia will love to know who has what role so they can plan the NKs
seeing as strager's only on 1 vote, there's no harm in vote: strager for rolefishing
seeing as strager's only on 1 vote, there's no harm in vote: strager for rolefishing
DAY COP
DAAAAAAAAAAY COOOOOOOOOP
Sheesh
It was clearly bolded.
DAAAAAAAAAAY COOOOOOOOOP
Sheesh
It was clearly bolded.
I still don't see how that works, but you're entitled to your own logic and I don't have to agree, really. However, you did say the same thing in BM1, where you were a Mafia, so I'm kind of suspicious about that.
I wouldn't say I'm rolefishing. I'm not asking people to claim. I'm just looking at what information we have from claims to see what's possible and what is the better action to take given this information. For example, see my post about who/how the Cops should investigate.
I do have to agree that rolefishing is probably suspicious, though I haven't seen it applied in a game I've played/followed (unless I'm that blind), so I can't say if it's reliable. I'm sure you've the experience, and it does sound like a possible tell, so that's why I'm agreeing on this point.
I wouldn't say I'm rolefishing. I'm not asking people to claim. I'm just looking at what information we have from claims to see what's possible and what is the better action to take given this information. For example, see my post about who/how the Cops should investigate.
I do have to agree that rolefishing is probably suspicious, though I haven't seen it applied in a game I've played/followed (unless I'm that blind), so I can't say if it's reliable. I'm sure you've the experience, and it does sound like a possible tell, so that's why I'm agreeing on this point.
Care to clarify?adam2046 wrote:
DAY COP
DAAAAAAAAAAY COOOOOOOOOP
Sheesh
It was clearly bolded.
You can investigate during the Day and have results by the Twilight?
In that case, that's pretty useful. Have the Doctor protect you so we get two investigations by Twilight 2. Some WIFOM: Mafia sees this and kills the other Cop, but the Doctor sees this and protects that other Cop, but the Mafia sees THAT and ... The least-risk scenario is to protect adam because he is more valuable than SFG (investigations are a turn earlier, before the Twilight kill) (also, sorry SFG =X). Of course, the Doctor should keep quiet about who he's going to protect. =]
However, I fear adam being Naive or Paranoid, and SFG being Sane (or Insane), to balance this.
First sentence:
End of last sentence:strager wrote:
I still don't see how that works, but you're entitled to your own logic and I don't have to agree, really.
That was quick?strager wrote:
it does sound like a possible tell, so that's why I'm agreeing on this point.
First was about how Echo feels information about roles (how roles work, and what roles are in the game) helps the Mafia and not the Town.0_o wrote:
First sentence:End of last sentence:strager wrote:
I still don't see how that works, but you're entitled to your own logic and I don't have to agree, really.That was quick?strager wrote:
it does sound like a possible tell, so that's why I'm agreeing on this point.
Second was about how collecting roles (trying to get people to claim) helps the Mafia and not the Town.
I get results right away.
So I assume you haven't investigated anyone?adam2046 wrote:
I get results right away.
I might have.
Hmm...
Mod: Do Twilight actions (in particular, a Twilight kill by the Mafia) take place immediately, or are all actions queued to the end of the Twilight like in other Mafia games?
I ask because if adam doesn't investigate speak his result during Day 1, and Twilight actions are taken immediately, he may be killed before we know his results.
Mod: Do Twilight actions (in particular, a Twilight kill by the Mafia) take place immediately, or are all actions queued to the end of the Twilight like in other Mafia games?
I ask because if adam doesn't investigate speak his result during Day 1, and Twilight actions are taken immediately, he may be killed before we know his results.
Topic Starter
At my own choice, I will tell you all this piece of information.strager wrote:
Hmm...
Mod: Do Twilight actions (in particular, a Twilight kill by the Mafia) take place immediately, or are all actions queued to the end of the Twilight like in other Mafia games?
I ask because if adam doesn't investigate speak his result during Day 1, and Twilight actions are taken immediately, he may be killed before we know his results.
In this game (and this game only), unless a role can be blocked by another, the actions will take place intantly. Therefore, for example, if a cop does his action and gets results almost immediately, then there isn't a role that can block the cop during that phase. Other than that, I will not give any info on this subject.