Nanael wrote:

That was actually the point, also the reason why you don't hear Kalafina's Magia (a badass yet totally eerie negative song) till Mami gets beheaded at episode 3. The reason why there aren't many "sad magical girl series" is because that isn't really the point of that kind of show, silly fanservice is. Also, people crying and the show being depressing doesn't automatically makes it deep. Anyway, all this I mentioned nothing has to do with the original topic (deepness, was it?) If you take into account that the creator of Madoka also wrote Saya no Uta, he could have done more "deep" than this.

With all this said, I really really liked it, I just try to be objective.

The Ribbon Red wrote:

But really, can you find a Magical Girl on that same level? (If you could, then I've missed something. )

Nanael wrote:

The Ribbon Red wrote:

But really, can you find a Magical Girl on that same level? (If you could, then I've missed something. )

As I said earlier, no, Madoka was a first. And they played with that fact (The opening being misleading, not showing the ending till everything is messed up)
And big part of its success is due to that (Sweet art direction and music help) The plot wasn't particulary original (Homura pulling a Furude Rika, etc) but was unique to the genre. In short, no, there are none.

Nanael wrote:

I notice I wrote a lot, I apologize for that really.
In topic, my favorite anime was probably Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, it had a terrible animation studio (DEEEEN!) yet it didn't matter one bit in the end, since the story was completely daunting. I liked many more, but that one stands out.

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Nanael wrote:

I notice I wrote a lot, I apologize for that really.
In topic, my favorite anime was probably Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, it had a terrible animation studio (DEEEEN!) yet it didn't matter one bit in the end, since the story was completely daunting. I liked many more, but that one stands out.

Why didn't you say that earlier?

Welcome to the club, my friend. To the 07th Expansion fan club, that is.

Nanael wrote:

Since Higurashi I've read most of Ryukishi07 stuff, currently reading Higanbana no Saku Yoru Ni and liking it. That also made me sort of fan of dai's music among others. That's how I ended here actually.

Accelerator-kun wrote:

Welcome to the club Nanael.

Anyway, Madoka is the best magical girl cause it's not a simple magical girl, it's more like a seinen.

Accelerator-kun wrote:

...Anyway, Madoka is the best magical girl cause it's not a simple magical girl, it's more like a seinen...

The Ribbon Red wrote:

...it really changed the Magical Girl genre...

Accelerator-kun wrote:

^ Is strange to be said by one with those avatar/sig combination.

Bakario wrote:

New shit has been added : Phantom ~Requiem for the Phantom~, Casshern Sins, Baccano!.

Specially Phantom, such deep plot.

Nanael wrote:

The Ribbon Red wrote:

...it really changed the Magical Girl genre...

You think? To me it is still the same fanservice+power of friendship formula, as always

Accelerator-kun wrote:

The point here is that I DON'T like too much magical girls, but I really liked Madoka. So something must be different from others! I will focus again on the dark viewpoint. Madoka got me at the ending of episode 3. I think I've said all.

Bakario wrote:

New shit has been added : Phantom ~Requiem for the Phantom~, Casshern Sins, Baccano!.

Specially Phantom, such deep plot.

Yuri-lowell wrote:

Mirai Nikki, Yumekui Merry, Seikon no Qwaser~

Yuri-lowell wrote:

Seikon no Qwaser~

Yuri-lowell wrote:

Mirai Nikki

Yuri-lowell wrote:

Seikon no Qwaser

palinus wrote:

Forever it is Higurashi no Naku Koro ni :V

Accelerator-kun wrote:

oh Yeah!

Accelerator-kun wrote:

Yuri-lowell wrote:

Seikon no Qwaser

oh Yeah!

palinus wrote:

Forever it is Higurashi no Naku Koro ni :V

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Oh you...

Accelerator-kun wrote:

Don't look at me with that dark look, I watch it for the story (I like it, seriously) and for the action scenes. Characters are also appreciable. Ecchi too.

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Accelerator-kun wrote:

Don't look at me with that dark look, I watch it for the story (I like it, seriously) and for the action scenes. Characters are also appreciable. Ecchi too.

Actually, I meant it in a friendship-lol-you-know-what-I-mean-glare look.

Do you really watch it for the story?

SPOILER

trollolololololololol

Accelerator-kun wrote:

why not? I'm not that superficial.

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Accelerator-kun wrote:

why not? I'm not that superficial.

Seems nice, no? Able to understand the plot, that is.

I wonder why they made that part so important...?

Accelerator-kun wrote:

business is business

Seriously, if you read the author notes in the manga you will know that the author is a crazy person

iEatzCooKieeZ wrote:

Not sure if i can say i have a favorite but
YuruYuri was pretty funny so yea

The Ribbon Red wrote:

iEatzCooKieeZ wrote:

Not sure if i can say i have a favorite but
YuruYuri was pretty funny so yea

Hmm...

Decent.

Accelerator-kun wrote:

I enjoyed it, waiting for season 2 this summer ^^

Bakario wrote:

New shit has been added : Phantom ~Requiem for the Phantom~, Casshern Sins, Baccano!.

Specially Phantom, such deep plot.

Bakario wrote:

Bakario wrote:

But Baccano? Seriously? The "immortality" doesn't get much from me at all. Especially those 2 morons who're always running around and talking to themselves.

Noob.

JeSsYkA wrote:

Umineko no Karu Ni :33333333

Accelerator-kun wrote:

Both Naruto and One Piece suck.

Accelerator-kun wrote:

Both Naruto and One Piece suck.

The Ribbon Red wrote:

JeSsYkA wrote:

Umineko no Karu Ni :33333333

Umineko was nice because of Ryukishi-san and the rest of 07th Expansion team. The animation isn't that well done (So as Higurashi), but Ryukishi-san made it into an awesome one just by providing the story

The Ribbon Red wrote:

The animation isn't that well done (So as Higurashi)

Accelerator-kun wrote:

I left Bleach because bleach ROCKS.

Nanael wrote:

Accelerator-kun wrote:

I left Bleach because bleach ROCKS.

ahaha_hi_delay.wav

Kubo would be glad to hear someone doesn't hate his work.

Nanael wrote:

Kubo would be glad to hear someone doesn't hate his work.

Elfuun wrote:

Nanael wrote:

Kubo would be glad to hear someone doesn't hate his work.

I don't. In fact, I really appreciate Bleach.

Nanael wrote:

There's a big difference between liking something and claiming it is great.
Liking something does not magically turn it good, despite you trying to make a difference out of Naruto/Bleach, they are broadly put in the same bag for having under-developed characters and plot-deadness. This is a broadly accepted opinion among readers, hence me wondering why you left out Bleach from a prior sentence.

Don't take me wrong, I don't dislike Bleach, somehow I keep reading it, but I'm well aware it isn't great at all.

Accelerator-kun wrote:

Well, first: we have a username, so we aren't anonymous, that's why EVERYTHING we say has always a big "IMO" on his face.
Second: Bleach, between Naruto and One Piece, has better characters, better style, better plot and a more mature story... so yeah, at least in the mainstream area, Bleach is GREAT.

Better characters

Better plot

More mature story

Nanael wrote:

I agree on art style, mostly because to me One Piece art is particulary horrible and I can't fathom the mind of someone who could find it appealing. Too bad better character artstyle came to the price of leaving 90% of the backgrounds blank.

Nanael wrote:

...the fact I try to see things for what they are doesn't mean that I don't like them, nor that I can't understand people liking them (unless it's One Piece art, because, wow).

Nanael wrote:

I'm also curious about Bleach's ending, and I'm still reading it regardless of my opinion about its quality.

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Still Higurashi due to story.

Umineko as well; though the art level has degraded a bit.

I'd wish Higanbana to join the anime ranks. The previous work of Ryukishi-san was great. Higanbana's manga is quite good as well.

Valentiino wrote:

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Still Higurashi due to story.

Umineko as well; though the art level has degraded a bit.

I'd wish Higanbana to join the anime ranks. The previous work of Ryukishi-san was great. Higanbana's manga is quite good as well.

But the Umineko anime hasn't even ended yet.

Valentiino wrote:

But considering that, I don't think we shall see Higanbana as an anime quite soon (or ever)

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Valentiino wrote:

But considering that, I don't think we shall see Higanbana as an anime quite soon (or ever)

Like I said:

"I wish Higanbana to join the anime ranks."

Notice the "wish" word on the sentence. It's a mere fan's dream.

Valentiino wrote:

But dreaming forever is sad

The Ribbon Red wrote:

Valentiino wrote:

But dreaming forever is sad

Do we have a choice?

It's not like all of Ryukishi-sama's fans can afford to pay some big-time studio to animate Higanbana at an instant...

Cowtao wrote:

This question sucks as there is really no favorite anime out there in the anime world because there is so much Animu, but I can list it down to two.

Accelerator-kun wrote:

Cowtao wrote:

This question sucks as there is really no favorite anime out there in the anime world because there is so much Animu, but I can list it down to two.

You always have an anime that you feel strongly bonded with.

DeScarlett wrote:

nicely said

but, i believe the fan would love to see Higanbana animu

Akimari wrote:

Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica and Cardcaptor Sakura

[Yue] wrote:

Akimari wrote:

Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica and Cardcaptor Sakura

I love these animes <3 x3