What about this? http://osu.ppy.sh/b/55041&m=0 The bg on Easy is fine? o.o
D33d wrote:
The thing with explicit lyrics is that they can be kept to the player through the use of headphones. Backgrounds can't be hidden from other people, so anybody in a young person's family is able to see and be offended by a naked loli with a feather over her labia.
And from what I can see nobody is defending "naked loli with a feather over her labia" style backgrounds, rather one's where it's people in swimsuits, under bedcovers, wearing clothes that cover more than just the bare minimum but not enough for some people's standards etc. And again. Nightcore does have a relation to suggestive images. It has *always* been that way.Ephemeral wrote:
this is not a place to discuss issues of playing questionable beatmaps in the presence of others. such a thing is a personal choice and particularly things of this nature are extremely specific to the individual in question, and is not a topic that is particularly fruitful to pursue.
That moment when Ass Up used pictures of asses up. ggD33d wrote:
A vaguely sexual background could be fine if it fits the song's theme
C:\Program Files (x86)\osu!\Songs\11947 Nightcore - Ass Up!D33d wrote:
Backgrounds can't be hidden from other people
This is the truth. Loli with less clothes = nightcore. As long as it is not naked its fine.Cho wrote:
And from what I can see nobody is defending "naked loli with a feather over her labia" style backgrounds, rather one's where it's people in swimsuits, under bedcovers, wearing clothes that cover more than just the bare minimum but not enough for some people's standards etc. And again. Nightcore does have a relation to suggestive images. It has *always* been that way.
Altering files in beatmaps can get you banned in about 1-2 months. peppy is working on the thing that checks them now.JappyBabes wrote:
That moment when Ass Up used pictures of asses up. ggD33d wrote:
A vaguely sexual background could be fine if it fits the song's themeC:\Program Files (x86)\osu!\Songs\11947 Nightcore - Ass Up!D33d wrote:
Backgrounds can't be hidden from other people
What.
Also, what people under the age of 13 are even playing this game? Your entire post was focused on embarrassment which as Empheral said doesn't come into the argument. The fact is the argument was made that this is an all ages game, therefore NSFW music should not be permitted as it is not for all ages.
Actually I support this just as I told it before. I want this more than bg changes. ._.Mithost wrote:
...I know Nightcore = Loli, but most of you who are defending the BGs are also against a TOGGLE or a SECONDARY background of the mapper's choosing. That I don't understand completely.
Altering files. Lol'd at that point. Please, blindly follow what ppy thinks some more. It amuses me.Mithost wrote:
Altering files in beatmaps can get you banned
Yes, I am comfortable playing the game as is. osu's audience is primarily made up of 13-19. My mother has watched me play, what you would call an NSFW BG, http://osu.ppy.sh/s/34337 and she had no objection so I don't see why you're basing your personal opinion from a parent. And I haven't said in this thread that the original BGs should be the only thing. People can make less sexual BGs as alternatives for downloading if they want but with the main audience of osu it shouldn't be needed. If you can't handle some animu girls you should probably get off the internet.Mithost wrote:
I think someone should be as comfortable playing rockband in their home as they should be playing osu!. The games are supposed to target a similar age group, yet one of them (In the view of a parent) involves clicking circles on "borderline cartoon child porn". I've heard these words come from a parent's mouth before about this game, which is why I'm not supporting the BGs. I know Nightcore = Loli, but most of you who are defending the BGs are also against a TOGGLE or a SECONDARY background of the mapper's choosing. That I don't understand completely.
To date, I have not seen a single NSFW background on any map.Mithost wrote:
This is a video game, not porn. We shouldn't have to hide it the same way to the same people.
I'm just saying I'm reluctant to suggest this game to friends with younger siblings because I know for a fact they are going to run into these backgrounds, the kids are going to see it, and the parents could get pissed at my friend (and at me) for whatever reason regarding the backgrounds. I should be able to suggest these things to people without worrying about it, but as I've learned before, I can't. I've already gotten into some drama regarding other people's parents because of it.JappyBabes wrote:
Altering files. Lol'd at that point. Please, blindly follow what ppy thinks some more. It amuses me.Mithost wrote:
Altering files in beatmaps can get you bannedYes, I am comfortable playing the game as is. osu's audience is primarily made up of 13-19. My mother has watched me play, what you would call an NSFW BG, http://osu.ppy.sh/s/34337 and she had no objection so I don't see why you're basing your personal opinion from a parent. And I haven't said in this thread that the original BGs should be the only thing. People can make less sexual BGs as alternatives for downloading if they want but with the main audience of osu it shouldn't be needed. If you can't handle some animu girls you should probably get off the internet.Mithost wrote:
I think someone should be as comfortable playing rockband in their home as they should be playing osu!. The games are supposed to target a similar age group, yet one of them (In the view of a parent) involves clicking circles on "borderline cartoon child porn". I've heard these words come from a parent's mouth before about this game, which is why I'm not supporting the BGs. I know Nightcore = Loli, but most of you who are defending the BGs are also against a TOGGLE or a SECONDARY background of the mapper's choosing. That I don't understand completely.To date, I have not seen a single NSFW background on any map.Mithost wrote:
This is a video game, not porn. We shouldn't have to hide it the same way to the same people.
Did you not read Eph's post?Ephemeral wrote:
this is not a place to discuss issues of playing questionable beatmaps in the presence of others. such a thing is a personal choice and particularly things of this nature are extremely specific to the individual in question, and is not a topic that is particularly fruitful to pursue.
At least google has safe search. It would be nice to have a age control thing on osu, or something.Kurokami wrote:
I think the Google is even worst than osu!. I mean if the 12yo try to search after a pic, he/she eventually find a nude real life girl.
Alternate bg with a toggle, I guess. Well it is sounds good. But what about the "ecchi" songs?Mithost wrote:
It would be nice to have a age control thing on osu, or something.
Just rotate your monitor to face the wall.Mithost wrote:
Songs with "questionable" lyrics are usually more saturated with pre-teens already. Some of the new-age music is kinda out there.some Heavy Metal having lyrics that involve ripping off faces and raping people... *shudder*I feel oldIt's also a bit easier to conceal for the older player because they can use headphones when kids are in the room. There are no PC monitor sunglasses yet though, so we are stuck on the visual aspect of these songs.
If you are playing with other online games, like WoW, when your little brother/sister is come into your room you will turn off or what when you are in a middle of a boss fight which is a big spider or something? I guess, no.Mithost wrote:
Songs with "questionable" lyrics are usually more saturated with pre-teens already. Some of the new-age music is kinda out there.some Heavy Metal having lyrics that involve ripping off faces and raping people... *shudder*I feel oldIt's also a bit easier to conceal for the older player because they can use headphones when kids are in the room. There are no PC monitor sunglasses yet though, so we are stuck on the visual aspect of these songs.
Ephemeral wrote:
osu! is supposed to be all-ages and that is as much a part of the criteria as the more technical things
???JappyBabes wrote:
I would like to request an unranking for http://osu.ppy.sh/b/118380&m=0 and http://osu.ppy.sh/s/933 as it has explicit lyrics which clearly are not suitable for all ages.
You ever get the feeling only one side is being listened to ?JappyBabes wrote:
Ephemeral wrote:
osu! is supposed to be all-ages and that is as much a part of the criteria as the more technical things???JappyBabes wrote:
I would like to request an unranking for http://osu.ppy.sh/b/118380&m=0 and http://osu.ppy.sh/s/933 as it has explicit lyrics which clearly are not suitable for all ages.
Often it seems like suggestive map elements are given warning aswell, just curious as to what the considerable difference is assuming both have warnings ?Ephemeral wrote:
Songs with mature lyrics are fine as long as a proper warning is put in place (as is noted on the second map). There is a considerable difference between suggestive map elements and explicit lyrics.
I wonder why you think only Nightcore maps have this kind of bg. o.oMithost wrote:
Ass Up! went 1-2 years before a warning, iirc. I have seen some warnings around, but I've seen more maps without warnings than with them.
I'ma go search "Nightcore" and see what other maps I can locate.
are you serious, or whatziin wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/35878
Ephemeral wrote:
Songs with mature lyrics are fine as long as a proper warning is put in place
GG. Guess there's no need for the warning on Ass Up any more.ztrot wrote:
*Warning* some may be offended by this map's +16 content. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
Pretty much this. Most, if not all, of the images that have been changed so far are the types of things I find when surfing certain sites for fap material, and these types of images are almost always marked "NSFW" and typically require me to make an account and enable the "adult material flag" if they're found on a place that isn't solely a porn site.ziin wrote:
I don't think osu needs questionable material. Almost every site I found the image on has it marked that way.
Yes there's a need, the warning was for the lyrics to begin with i assume considering the lyrics mention ass all the time.JappyBabes wrote:
Ephemeral wrote:
Songs with mature lyrics are fine as long as a proper warning is put in placeGG. Guess there's no need for the warning on Ass Up any more.ztrot wrote:
*Warning* some may be offended by this map's +16 content. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
Ass is totally a word for 16+>Checks my profile.Sakura wrote:
Yes there's a need, the warning was for the lyrics to begin with i assume considering the lyrics mention ass all the time.
look down a little bit. You'll notice it's listed as NOT safe, eg... questionable.JappyBabes wrote:
@ziin/Ekaru
So let's check a rather large hentai image base, shall we?
It's even in the safe version of the site. gg
same here. e n elesslunatic wrote:
are you serious, or whatziin wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/35878SPOILERDelete every background that has a pink pixel, really.
This. ^^Ekaru wrote:
Pretty much this. Most, if not all, of the images that have been changed so far are the types of things I find when surfing certain sites for fap material, and these types of images are almost always marked "NSFW" and typically require me to make an account and enable the "adult material flag" if they're found on a place that isn't solely a porn site.ziin wrote:
I don't think osu needs questionable material. Almost every site I found the image on has it marked that way.
define: hentai "A work of anime or manga (or any similar medium) that contains sexual or pornographic art."Mithost wrote:
It's obviously not as bad as some of the stuff on Konachan, but it's still something you would find if you searched "Hentai" on an image site.
Bam!JappyBabes wrote:
define: hentai "A work of anime or manga (or any similar medium) that contains sexual or pornographic art."Mithost wrote:
It's obviously not as bad as some of the stuff on Konachan, but it's still something you would find if you searched "Hentai" on an image site.
I will not walk around in underwear, BUT in swimsuit, yes.ziin wrote:
I'm going to get arrested if I walk outside with nothing but a hoodie on. If I have on underwear, I could probably get away with it. The picture in question has already been changed anyway.
Would you walk around in public like that? Please no witty response; it's not needed.
This is also proving to be true and not addressed so far (Hah, surprise). If it's for all ages surely anything with even slightly suggestive lyrics aswell as images should be removed. Then we can all enjoy some instrumental touhou remixes with different colours of the dragonforce backgrounds, seems to be where this is headed at any rate.JappyBabes wrote:
I'm not sure if you actually read what has been said, but I'm saying that the BATs have said we want this game for all ages but they've only been removing the visual elements that make it unsuitable and not the audible that are inappropriate for an all ages game. Don't pick and choose what you're going to rerank and label suitable.
Seems like what we need to do is end the argument then and get both sides to agree to a feature request (I mean, I know that's the equivalent of changing nothing but it might eventually one day have some knock on effect that inspires a half-done idea that would solve some minor grievances)Mithost wrote:
Edit: And again, I support a use for the age feature that would "hide" maps from younger players, and a guideline/rule that makes mappers have to set a age group for the elements. It's a winwin.
Okay, yeah, I fully endorse an unrank of that. I'm fine with "Ass Up!" because "ass" isn't considered that bad of a word nowadays, and I'm only fine with BG unranks because those are extremely easy fixes and keep the scores intact, but that is, uh... No.JappyBabes wrote:
http://www.justsomelyrics.com/1895027/Stamper-6-In-A-Row-Lyrics http://osu.ppy.sh/s/933
Ekaru wrote:
Okay, yeah, I fully endorse an unrank of that. I'm fine with "Ass Up!" because "ass" isn't considered that bad of a word nowadays
07:33 Sakura: : what's more funny is that the map i linked doesn't even have a warning, and i was heavily opposed to it getting ranked, and it still gotWell apparently you're wrong, according to some people the lyrics for that are NSFW as well. BETTER HIT THE UNRANK BUTTON GUYS!!!@!@
07:33 Sakura: : ranked, and up till this day and i still can't figure out why
07:33 JappyBabes: : Well, Ass Up had a warning and I don't see why someone said it was because of the lyrics
07:34 Sakura: : "put your ass up, put your ass up, put your ass up in the air" \:D/
We should have something like this. A button where we can flag beatmaps for BAT/MAT attention. They can decide what needs to be revised/given a warning/nuked.JappyBabes wrote:
BETTER HIT THE UNRANK BUTTON GUYS!!!@!@
theMikeAG wrote:
You'd better watch out, JappyBabes. Someone might take your sarcastic suggestions seriously. Case in point...
Not really, they werent supposed to be ranked with those BGs in the first place, said guideline has existed longer than 3 years.Kyou-kun wrote:
This game's policies are becoming a joke.
Soon, not only will we be unable to remove backgrounds, but the backgrounds we're forced to look at will be boring censored versions of their originals just because some guy with Asperger's syndrome decided to complain.
Come on. Really? That's just rude.
I second this. [/unrelated]JappyBabes wrote:
none of the osu! community has the slightest clue about what autism is.
he should have complained sooner ): if a background "needs to be censored" I'd call into question what it was doing there in the first place.Kyou-kun wrote:
Soon, not only will we be unable to remove backgrounds, but the backgrounds we're forced to look at will be boring censored versions of their originals just because some guy with Asperger's syndrome decided to complain.