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ampzz
At least FFX-2 was a completely different style which worked out completely fine and made it unique.

FFXII-2 feels like a copy paste with a few added bits which just screams that the content was originally planned for the original version but axed so they could quickly send the game out to make revenue.

The only thing I don't particularly mind is the random encounters of enemies without knowing who they will be in comparison to 13's styling.

Needless to say I will still probably (like 13)) play it and not finish it with it assisting in dust absorption.
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Seibei4211
Yeah, Asura's Wrath was pretty awesome. I think they were assholes about how they ended the Chapter 11 demo though. That game isn't even really a game though. It's like a movie where you occasionally press buttons, but it's awesome.

The FFXIII-2 demo was one of the few demos I've played where I couldn't even finish it because of how boring it was. And I've beaten that fucking hour-long Darksiders demo before. I got to the point in there where you have to choose to go for the boss or find some switch or some bullshit. I fucking hated the random encounters though. I really liked how it was in FFXIII. I could always see them and I could always ignore them if I wanted to. If they're going to force you into a random encounter, just fucking put me into the encounter instantly instead of wasting a few seconds trying to hit the stupid enemy. Although now that I know more about the monster thing, I do think it's pretty cool how each monster is a certain role (commando, ravager, etc).
Ivalset

Seibei4211 wrote:

Although now that I know more about the monster thing, I do think it's pretty cool how each monster is a certain role (commando, ravager, etc).
This is the thing that excites me the most about 13-2.
Dieathan
Man, so many games coming out this February.
Binary Domain, Asura's Wrath, Soul Calibur V, Final Fantasy XIII-2. When did February become November number 2?
Rantai
Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk-2 too

:D
Mafiamaster

Rantai wrote:

Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk-2 too

:D
Looking forward to this :3
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Seibei4211
Well, I played Bodycount. I had fun with that demo, but the game doesn't hold up as well. Really fucking short, too. 17 levels and I beat it in a day. The stupid Target enemies are bullshit, too. One of those guys can go completely invincible for way too long and you can't tell when they're not invincible anymore unless you shoot at them, which is dangerous since they have rocket launchers. Also, it's so hard to tell when you're almost gonna die in that game. Being slightly damaged looks just like being almost dead. Anyway, Red Faction: Armageddon's next.
Dieathan

Mafiamaster wrote:

Rantai wrote:

Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk-2 too

:D
Looking forward to this :3
Same here. First one was okay, though.
awp
I'm hearing word that Final Fantasy 13-2 is not super terrible.

Considering Final Fantasy 13 was terrible and I still enjoyed the ride, I'll be a bit optimistic.
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Seibei4211
Is anyone else looking at Kingdoms of Amalur? I tried that demo (which is super long, by the way) and that was really fun. It's basically like a single-player WoW with Fable combat. It's got a hybrid class system that's determined by how you allocate your skill points. It's got a nice amount of weapon types, sneak attacks/assassinations, a quick select that pauses the game for once, deteriorating equipment, Mass Effect dialogue wheel, and a way to mark inventory items as Junk. I just hope the main game doesn't have as much of a frame rate issue as the demo, but even if it does, the game looks fun enough for me to wanna ignore those problems, just like Fallout.

Also, The Darkness II demo was super fun. That was such a hoot. And there's co-op in that game, too. And no competitive. Double jackpot.
Ivalset
I will probably wait until Amalur gets cheap to buy it.

I enjoyed what I played but I wouldn't consider myself really invested into it.

I do like how feasible multi-classing is, though.
Ivalset


Chocolina is the fucking best.
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Seibei4211
She was one of the reasons I hated the demo. Listening to her talk made me want to rip my ears off.
Ivalset
She owns.

superminor spoiler:
apparently she's the chocobo chick.
DawnII
CHOCO-BOCO-LINAAAAAAAAAAA

She's so hard she permeates through time.
Ivalset
Also, moogle throwing is the other best thing. Should have been in every FF.
awp

Ivalset wrote:



Chocolina is the fucking best.
...

she's wearing a dead chocobo head as a hat

...what
Ivalset
I didn't even notice she was wearing a hat.
awp
comically oversized breasts
Ivalset
"Welcome to my shop! Take a breather and survey Chocolina's charmingly cheap chest of charity!"

Oh, Chocolina, you don't have to ask me to look at your charming chest of charity.

Edit: Finished FF13-2, all I have to say is "Fuck."

Fuck.
Mafiamaster
I find it hard even on easy mode. I must be doing something wrong.
Ivalset
Mm, are you having trouble with anything in particular?

Most of my general strategies from 13 work about the same, except for synergists sucking in general now.
adam2046
Nothing to do, so I play a Master System game from a Mega Drive compilation on my PS3.
...I feel like I'm doing something horribly wrong. It's not like Phantasy Star 1 is even particularly good.
Mafiamaster
I'm on the last boss, I think. Or close around there where there's like a chain of battles. (I only tried it once)
It may have to do with my set up.

Serah: Lvl 68 Rav / 50 Com (246 Atk / 390 Mag)
Noel: Lvl 70 Com / 60 Rav / 50 Syn (382 Atk / 287 Mag)
Flanitor (Med): Lvl 12
Flanbanero (Rav): Lvl 28

I don't use Saboteur or Sentinel at all.
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Seibei4211
You don't use Saboteur? So you don't debuff strong enemies? Jeez. I was always using Saboteur in FFXIII. I think I used Com/Rav/Sab a lot. Sentinel's mostly just good for triple Sentinel, but man, that does work and is necessary for some attacks.
Ivalset
Saboteurs are kind of nerfed a bit, but still really nice if you do it right.

I would really advise having at least a double sentinel paradigm if you don't want to bring in a monster for triple sentinel. That way you can switch to it to mitigate the damage from serious attacks that might oneshot you otherwise.
Mafiamaster
Interesting. So I'm not underleveled or anything?
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Seibei4211
Wait, so they nerfed Synergists AND Saboteurs? What the hell, man? It's not like they were even overpowered to begin with. Hope and Fang were the only overpowered things in that game.
Ivalset
Yeah, none of the two main characters are exceptional synergists (no offensive buffs), and they're both missing some saboteur skills like curse, fog and pain. Saboteurs are still great to use and effective, you're just kind of forced to use monsters in those roles if you want to do it completely right. And since you can only have three monsters active at a time, and you probably want to use other roles etc...
DawnII
I haven't ever used a double SEN paradigm. Especially with some boss SEN monsters, you don't need more than one. I usually SEN when I need to switch to MED or SYN/SAB so I can keep the chain going.
Mafiamaster
Okay, I beat the game. Med/Med/Med helped a lot along with an OP Chichu.

Ivalset wrote:

Fuck.
This is true.
Ivalset



For some reason, Oerba always has the best music.

I actually like the normal version of Ruined Hometown much more than the aggressive mix, but you never get to hear the aggressive mix in its entirety unless you do something weird like visit the menu when a mob shows up.
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Seibei4211
Well here's a good one. I went to Gamestop just now to get Darkness II, Kingdoms of Amalur, and the guide for the latter since that's probably a huge game. I was looking around and I didn't see the guide for KoA, so I asked if they had it and he said they got an email saying it had been delayed. What the fuck? So the guide is coming out in two weeks instead. By then the internet will probably have whipped up some stuff and I won't want the guide. I don't think I've ever seen that happen before.
Ivalset
Mm, I don't think Kingdoms of Amalur is the kind of game I'd really want a guide for personally, though I'm not really one to buy guides in the first place. Seemed like a simple enough game with not much going on behind the scenes.
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Seibei4211
I like maps, and I wanna know about any time-sensitive sidequests with awesome rewards or something. I wanna know if there are any special super awesome weapons to get that I might miss out on normally. Like in FFXII, you'd be screwed if you didn't know how to get that Zodiac Spear from the beginning of the game. But if I play the game and it turns out to be pretty simple to follow, then I'll just use the money I would've used to buy the guide and put it towards Asura's Wrath.
Ivalset
Where's the mystique, Selphie? That sense of discovering the unknown when venturing into a new game in which you know nothing about?
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Seibei4211
Nope. That's just not how I play games.
adam2046
Finally finished Katamari Forever, so I guess I should probably get around to finishing off Valkyria Chronicles and Nier too.
...I need to stop playing games halfway through.

Downloaded a bunch of demos to the xbox since they don't count towards my internet quota.
Played Amalur and made a dark elf guy with a fabulous moustache and played with some rogue/fighter skills with bonuses to mana. It's fun, but it seems to really need a lock on button because I kept harpooning the wrong guys. Stopped playing a little while into the timed part of the demo because I was pretty much sold on buying the game already.
Asura's Wrath is hilarious and I might just buy it when it's a bit cheaper. I was really expecting some sort of God of War clone, but it's good that it's its own thing.
Topic Starter
Seibei4211

adam2046 wrote:

Finally finished Katamari Forever, so I guess I should probably get around to finishing off Valkyria Chronicles and Nier too.
...I need to stop playing games halfway through.

Downloaded a bunch of demos to the xbox since they don't count towards my internet quota.
Played Amalur and made a dark elf guy with a fabulous moustache and played with some rogue/fighter skills with bonuses to mana. It's fun, but it seems to really need a lock on button because I kept harpooning the wrong guys. Stopped playing a little while into the timed part of the demo because I was pretty much sold on buying the game already.
Asura's Wrath is hilarious and I might just buy it when it's a bit cheaper. I was really expecting some sort of God of War clone, but it's good that it's its own thing.
You played Nier and haven't finished it? Did you not like it? When I played that game, I couldn't stop myself from playing until I was 100% done. I love that game.

Yeah, I wish it had a lock-on button, too. Even for non-projectile stuff, it'd be nice to circle strafe dudes.

That Asura's Wrath demo is what made me go from wanting to buy it eventually to wanting to pre-order it and get it on day one. That shit is outrageous. The chapter 11 one was crazy. That fucking sword, man. Awesome.
adam2046

Seibei4211 wrote:

You played Nier and haven't finished it? Did you not like it? When I played that game, I couldn't stop myself from playing until I was 100% done. I love that game.
I'm actually just incredibly bad at finishing games, I usually stop playing at the halfway mark and start playing something completely different. I still haven't finished Persona 3 and a bunch of other PS2 games thanks to this.
DawnII
Sinful.
Ivalset

adam2046 wrote:

I still haven't finished Persona 3 and a bunch of other PS2 games thanks to this.
I...don't even know you anymore.
awp
I haven't finished P3 either but I only started playing it a month and change ago. I'm probably going to finish it in a couple weeks. Oh, plus The Answer.
DawnII
Man I stuck a Sazh afro on my Chichu and it is the bossest thing in the world.
Also Chocolina, WTF.
Ivalset
Chocolina the best.
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Seibei4211
Just started playing a bit of Amalur. Got a few quests under my belt now. Fuck, this game is fun. Chakrams? Fuckin'...forget about it. They're awesome. And Hammers beat the shit out of people (and bears) so well. I love this shit. Although I fucking hate how they have white text with a white shadow underneath it. It just makes me feel like I have blurry vision. So annoying to read that. And I don't know why they called this Hard mode, because you could've fooled me.
DawnII
Sazh DLC. 5 bucks. Shit, I think I'm obligated to throw that money down.
Ivalset
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you have to.

Honestly, I should get that DLC free, but whatever.

I hope he repeatedly asks people if they're afraid of him, while reminding people that they are nothing.
awp
Sazh costs money? Bulllllshit

don't justify charging money for a good character by making all the other characters insufferably angsty twats
Mafiamaster
Asura's Wrath? ... meh

What I liked:
Pretty good amount of awesome cut scenes.
Very good kick-assery during actual "gameplay"
Does get better half-way through the game.

What I didn't like:
A few buttons pressed, you've completed an episode. (Is what it felt like to me)
Preview shows up, spoils the episode pretty much.
Really high volume level on the preview when I have a normal volume setting throughout the game.
Having to look at "credits" on every cut scene. Can't count how many times I've seen "Cyber Connect2" pop up in my face.
90% movie and 10% gameplay.
Couldn't really enjoy the movie since I'm constantly on the lookout for upcoming buttons.
Short. Beaten in two sittings. (Less than 10 hours)

Yeah, that's pretty much it!

6/10

Now to redo the whole game on hard...
Ivalset
That sounds awful. Did you pay sixty bucks for a slightly long movie?
adam2046
That's honestly pretty much what I was expecting from the game.
Mafiamaster
Of course!

Hopefully HDN mk2 is better...
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Seibei4211
Sounds perfect to me. Those cutscenes are the reason I got the game, so it's good that there's a lot. The gameplay itself is so-so, but still pretty cool. Also, they did something different and outrageous, which is more than I can say for 98% of games these days. Creativity should definitely be rewarded. In any case, I can't play that game anyway until I beat Kingdoms of Amalur in a decade or so.
Ivalset
Making a game that is mostly cutscenes is not something I'd classify as good creativity.
Dieathan
Since the game isn't really much of a "game" than it is an anime box set with interactive segments inserted, I might wait a while for the price to drop before I pick it up.
Might as well see how Binary Domain holds up.
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Seibei4211
So, what, Heavy Rain wasn't a good game? That game was awesome and it is nothing but an interactive movie. So I guess Asura's Wrath isn't that creative, since it just took what Heavy Rain did, cut out the bullshit, and made the interactive sections more fun. How horrible.
Ivalset
Of course it wasn't a good game. It was a good movie.
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Seibei4211
That's true. LA Noire and Phoenix Wright don't have great gameplay aspects, yet they're still great. God of War has good gameplay, but the cutscenes were more brutal than ridiculous. Bayonetta's the only game I can think of that has great gameplay and a lot of truly ridiculous cutscenes. The only thing that sucked about those cutscenes was the fact that there was a button press you had to do in a handful of cutscenes that would kill you if you missed it. They were random and stupid. At least in Asura's Wrath and God of War, you'd be stupid to not expect them.
Dieathan
Its not that I find the game bad (I was actually rather hyped when I watched the trailers). I just feel it would be justified for me to buy it when its cheaper since it can be finished within a weekend and there's not much replay value from what I hear. I mean, I live in Australia, prices for games can be ridiculous up to $89.99. Not to mention there's tons of other games I want to check out as well which recently came out. I'm still going to play it...just not at the moment.
Ivalset
Just call it bad. It's a movie.
Dieathan

Ivalset wrote:

Just call it bad. It's a movie.
Just wait for once I feel the price is good enough until I can give my final verdict.
Ivalset
It's going to take a while for it to fall to around/below movie ticket prices.
Dieathan
Once it reaches about $60.00 or so it should be fine. I've been meaning to get my hands on Catherine, Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk2, Binary Domain and even The Last Story for Wii anyway.
-Athena-

Dieathan wrote:

I've been meaning to get my hands on Catherine
one of the reasons why i totally regret getting an xbox... the exclusives just don't match up
Dieathan

-A t H e N a- wrote:

one of the reasons why i totally regret getting an xbox... the exclusives just don't match up
What do you mean? I thought Catherine came out on Xbox 360. Is it the different box art?
Roddie
Well, the Killzone 3 multiplayer is going to be free on the Playstation Store and I'm definitely going to get it! Sure, there is going to be a certain level ranking limit but I'll deal with it. :D

Edit: Damn... I just found out that once you reach the ranking limit, you either have to pay or quit. It's kind of like a demo.... Well, this sucks. :/
YodaSnipe
oh cool thread /discovered it just now.
my ID is AvatarIsMyLife

games I own:
Record of Agarest War Zero LE
Valkyria Chronicles
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIII-2 (HUGE improvement, highly recommend this)
Resonance of Fate (zomg awesome game)
Transformers War for Cybertron (best FPS ever CoD what? BF what?)
Dynasty Warriors 7
Metal Gear Solid 4

I should be getting my copy of Hyperdimension Neptunia MK2 LE in the mail soon! Super pumped for that!
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Seibei4211
I never noticed this before, but awp's been updating his list of games on the first page.

Anyway, after a solid 18 days of nonstop playing, Kingdoms of Amalur is finally done. I'll probably never play a better western RPG than that, but that's not saying much. Also, for such a huge fucking game, it never froze once. And it never got old for me. I've moved onto Fear 2 cause I wanna see if it is, in fact, a scary game. So far, there's been too much boring FPS crap.
awp

Seibei4211 wrote:

I never noticed this before, but awp's been updating his list of games on the first page.
damn straight
YodaSnipe
Anyone here into JRPGs?
-Athena-

Dieathan wrote:

-A t H e N a- wrote:

one of the reasons why i totally regret getting an xbox... the exclusives just don't match up
What do you mean? I thought Catherine came out on Xbox 360. Is it the different box art?
Region locking... I'm stuck playing the Japanese version which I can't even find at where I live but I guess I used the word exclusive wrongly (box art is also a big factor though, runs~)
-Athena-

Seibei4211 wrote:

I never noticed this before, but awp's been updating his list of games on the first page.

Anyway, after a solid 18 days of nonstop playing, Kingdoms of Amalur is finally done. I'll probably never play a better western RPG than that, but that's not saying much. Also, for such a huge fucking game, it never froze once. And it never got old for me. I've moved onto Fear 2 cause I wanna see if it is, in fact, a scary game. So far, there's been too much boring FPS crap.
I got the game, exams are keeping me from it though orz... And I like jrpg's yoda ( I like all sorts of RPGs in general) edit: I didn't realize I double posted sorry D:
YodaSnipe
drop some names yo, what kinda jrpgs u played before?
-Athena-
A lot of FF, grandia, some Zelda, resonance of fate, castlevania, golden sun all randomly popped up. Kill me for not havin played persona or dragon quest yet( I think we're going a little of topic XD)
YodaSnipe
FF and resonance of fate!!! persona is awesome. Zelda is not an rpg
DawnII

Seibei4211 wrote:

I never noticed this before, but awp's been updating his list of games on the first page.
Word, I should join the party.
Topic Starter
Seibei4211

YodaSnipe wrote:

Anyone here into JRPGs?
Talk to Mafiamaster and Ivalset. But I think most of the people who frequent this thread play at least some JRPGs.
Rantai
Speaking of JRPG's my MK-2 is being shipped to me this very minute.

Uni? I don't even care right now.
Ivalset

Seibei4211 wrote:

YodaSnipe wrote:

Anyone here into JRPGs?
Talk to Mafiamaster and Ivalset. But I think most of the people who frequent this thread play at least some JRPGs.
Let me just state that my anime tolerance is not very high.

I can't play something like Ar Tonelico 3 or any hyperdimension neptunia games.

Games I enjoyed that are either JRPGs or similar enough in gameplay
Atelier Rorona/Totori
Resonance of Fate
White Knight Chronicles 2 (online component)
Final Fantasy 8, 9, 13/13-2

Star Ocean 3
Breath of Fire 3/4/5
Shadow Hearts series
Dark Cloud series
Dragon Quest 8/9
Mana Khemia
Persona 3/4
Ar Tonelico 2
Grandia 1/2/3/Xtreme
Eternal Poison
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Soul Nomad and the World Eaters
Odin Sphere
Valkyrie Profile 1/2
Hexyz Force
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 1/2

I've played a lot more snes/psx era games but my sense of nostalgia isn't strong enough for me to care about most of them.
YodaSnipe
Hey man, anime isn't for everyone, personally I'm a HUGE fan of the Ar Tonelico series, and to quote Rantai, my MK2 is being shipped now too! college wut nao?

I think FF13 was ok cool story, and looks pretty wasn't all that though. FF13-2 on the other hand is one of my favourite games in my inventory, same with Resonance of Fate damn that game is just so awesome.

I never played any of the star ocean series, but i thought that was more anime style? same with persona or at least that's how it felt to me when I played p3.
Ivalset
Star Ocean 3 isn't anime enough to bother me, neither is Persona 3/4. If a game is difficult enough and/or enjoyable enough I can overlook a lot of things.

I think I liked 13 more than I liked 13-2, even though 13 was certainly a flawed game. 13-2 is also criminally short; it's hard for me to justify the purchase of a game that lasts less than 30 hours, especially considering my wkc2 save file has recently surpassed 2000 hours.
YodaSnipe

Ivalset wrote:

especially considering my wkc2 save file has recently surpassed 2000 hours.
w-wow.... i don't even... wow is it that good? I've not played it, it didn't seem that good but then again looks can be deceiving amiright?
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Seibei4211
Did you play any Tales games, Ival?

Also, Ival and I are big Resonance of Fate fans, Yoda.
-Athena-
My record time spent on a game other than maple story and osu! Is 2000 hours on FFX (international) lol
YodaSnipe
jesus you people and your 2000+ only game I've got 2000+ is osu XD

ummm aren't like all the tales games on other systems not ps3? and if for ps3 JP only? ie. I've not played any
-Athena-
Anyone played dark souls or demon souls? (starts drooling uncontollably)
YodaSnipe
my close friend is completely addicted to those two games
-Athena-
osu! Cured my addiction to dark souls... And demon souls is ps3 exclusive FFFFFUUUUU
YodaSnipe

-A t H e N a- wrote:

osu! Cured my addiction to dark souls... And demon souls is ps3 exclusive FFFFFUUUUU
osu is great, and so what if it's ps3 excl.
-Athena-

YodaSnipe wrote:

-A t H e N a- wrote:

osu! Cured my addiction to dark souls... And demon souls is ps3 exclusive FFFFFUUUUU
osu is great, and so what if it's ps3 excl.
It mean I don't get to play it since I don't have one D:
YodaSnipe
and you're chilling in the ps3 club? xD
Ivalset

YodaSnipe wrote:

w-wow.... i don't even... wow is it that good? I've not played it, it didn't seem that good but then again looks can be deceiving amiright?
No, not really, it's another heavily flawed game. It's very focused on grind.

Seibei4211 wrote:

Did you play any Tales games, Ival?

Also, Ival and I are big Resonance of Fate fans, Yoda.
Abyss, Symphonia, and a little bit of some others.

Oh, fuck, I just realized Tales of Graces F comes out in like two weeks. Fuck.
-Athena-

YodaSnipe wrote:

and you're chilling in the ps3 club? xD
I like the ps3, hope you have no problems with that D:
YodaSnipe
I heard somewhere that the ps3 release of graces F was coming to NA (ie. TLed) is this true or just a rumour? Just so you know Ivalset, I realllllly enjoy grinding, don't know why don't really care, but I love it XD]

and nope np with it :D
Ivalset
Yeah, the NA release is what's due out on March 13th.

Not sure if I'll get it immediately, I will likely be consumed by Mass Effect 3 for a while.
-Athena-
Ps3 is completely region free (starts burning with envy), and much fewer games this gen require the grinding of old, you must be very disappointed XD. Yea I'm weird... For some reason I just can't bring myself to love ME like others, I played through disc 1 of ME2 only
YodaSnipe
ME 1 was cool, 2 was.... anyways since I think everyone I know of at least doesn't hate Tales series, I'll probably pick up Graces F!!!
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Seibei4211

Ivalset wrote:

Oh, fuck, I just realized Tales of Graces F comes out in like two weeks. Fuck.
Yeah, it's coming out at a bit of a bad time. I've been waiting for a US PS3 Tales game forever, but there are a lot of other games I wanna play this month.
YodaSnipe
lol yeah, true, still great to hear games like these are getting over to NA. Can't wait for the day I can speak/read JP T_T
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