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Celebrity PYP Mafia (TOWN VICTORY!)

posted 2012-02-06T19:39:08+00:00

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Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T05:20:46+00:00

I have to agree that Jesus Christ is mafia is somewhat hilarious.

4 mafia is pretty ridiculous in a 12 player game if 2 for 1 is worth anything. It'd be way too easy to win as mafia. About framer, that's actually something I hadn't thought of but raises the question as to where did the other frames go? With the mass roleclaim and public announcements, it makes no sense why the framer hasn't turned up yet.

Assuming 3 mafia, with 6 people left we basically have 1 safe lynch left. Right now one of you is lying from my perspective because I can't think of a reason why the framer has just suddenly turned up.

Deflecting into a lurker is fairly suspicious though. I can understand your train of thought but... something isn't sitting right.

Worst case scenario though, lynching one of you confirms the other. Just contemplating the off chance of 4 mafia (and if there is I will rage at Mashley)

Always lurking.

Sync

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Joined April 2011

Sync 2012-02-18T05:22:18+00:00

Yes, thank you for sharing your thoughts Rantai. It's a nice breath of fresh air.

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:23:24+00:00

rantai don't you understand that it's not because nohitter is a lurker, it's because he's the only one who sync hasn't scanned

at the same time it's possible sync is just straight up lying, but unless there was 4 mafia it'd make no sense

it's possible nohitter was just waiting until a more crucial moment, no one would take anything sync said if he just decided to get someone randomly mislynched

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:24:14+00:00

Remember that I can still use my powers. Also, having an unlimited-shot bulletproof roleblocker and like 10 cops in one alignment is fucking retarded. The fact that Chris thought he could get away with it is ridiculous...

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:24:47+00:00

sync stop being desperate

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:26:44+00:00

Hey, don't call me desperate when you've posted hilarious things like

Chris wrote:
vote: sync

seriously I can't even believe that is the path you're trying to take sync

if I get lynched do you really expect not to be next

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:27:08+00:00

sounds like a post foulcoon would make

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:27:23+00:00

yeah because some 3rd town flavor cop saying "you're mafia" straight out and trying to rush a lynch makes total sense

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:29:22+00:00

What's the point in waiting? The results said you were mafia. You've been scummy the whole game. It's been logical. also, I'm not rushing the lynch this day. I'm already mad about rushing lynches the previous days because pieguy could have really made this a lot easier.

Also, notice how you became a lot less desperate after you "suddenly realized" that there is a framer in this game.

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:31:25+00:00

I feel like I need to go through and make a giant post as to why it makes no sense to not lynch nohitter/sync and put together all the points I've made over the entire thread

it seems like all the points I'm making are being ignored because the third "town" cop says I'm mafia and that's the only solution

also no one said there definitely was a framer, I said it was a real possibility

you're too terrible to imagine any alternatives and why there would be THREE TOWN COPS

three town cops

what the hell are you on to think that's normal

Backfire

Joined February 2010

Backfire 2012-02-18T05:34:04+00:00

Who was the third cop

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:34:19+00:00

salvage/pieguy/sync

all cops

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:34:30+00:00

why would I think that there would be not 3 cops, but even ONE COP with a bulletproof bodyguard in the same alignment

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:35:01+00:00

my role is just a nerfed version of doctor, why are you acting like it's so amazing

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T05:35:34+00:00

The easiest solution is to scan NoHItter tonight. The train of thought here is you have been 'confirmed' mafia by the rolecop. If the rolecop is lying then you flip town and we end it on Sync. If you turn out scum then Sync is town and he scans NoHItter and Jinxy tonight (unless there is someone else to scan?).

Setting aside that you don't like being lynched, your lynch will basically decide if Sync is mafia or not.

Always lurking.

Backfire

Joined February 2010

Backfire 2012-02-18T05:36:12+00:00

Im pretty sure Salvage said he was independent?

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:36:59+00:00

that still doesn't explain what happens if I wasn't framed, sync is mafia and sync says nohitter is a framer

then what, you're back in the same scenario

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:41:54+00:00

and how would it be more useful if you were kept around?

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T05:43:21+00:00

No, if you flip town I am going to disregard everything Sync says. At that point he's lied to get a doctor killed. If you flip mafia, yeah you already know. Unless on the off chance YOU both are mafia then this is really screwed up.

Also; a JOAT is 1 shot. Sure it's 3 cops but you can also say there are 2 doctors etc. (2 docs is pretty game changing). Taking that one with a little less weight.

Always lurking.

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:44:31+00:00

Rantai, Chris isn't a doctor. he even claimed he wasn't a doctor

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:45:03+00:00

why doesn't jinxy motivate rantai, possibly giving them bulletproof or something
rantai uses their ability, I'll protect them

then we can at least negate a NK for one night

6 - 1 = 5, no NK
5 - 1 = 4, NK 3

two town 1 mafia

simple right

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:45:12+00:00

He claimed he was a bulletproof bodyguard

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T05:45:42+00:00

He's effectively a doctor if his claim is true. It serves the same role except the doctor itself cannot die (which makes it insanely powerful). Unless he backpedaled his bodyguard claim somewhere that I missed.

Always lurking.

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:46:26+00:00

I just came up with the best plan ever it gives us 3 lynches

all 3 of us can get lynched and there is no reason to argue it now

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:47:48+00:00

I'm pretty sure I just won town this game jesus christ what a breakthrough

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:48:50+00:00

good plan; let's lynch you first and then win

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:49:13+00:00

yeah lynch the person who's going to protect rantai from the NK

why are you so bad

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:49:35+00:00

OH RIGHT SYNC DOESN'T WANT SOMETHING SMART TO HAPPEN CAUSE HES MAFIA LOLOLOL

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:50:55+00:00

dude I thought NoHItter was mafia? What the fuck?

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:51:10+00:00

Why do you keep changing your mind?

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:51:12+00:00

even though my plan sort of confirms me even if I was mafia and do nokill that's STILL better than me killing someone right

right it is

omggg I'm so good

sync stop being desperate my plan is perfect

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:51:48+00:00

lol just hammer chris already

Jinxy

Joined February 2009

Jinxy 2012-02-18T05:52:02+00:00

Rantai's a macho lightningrod, Chris's plan will fall through if my motivation doesn't net a BP

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T05:52:14+00:00

The only problem is that I'm macho, does a bodyguard work with that?

If I'm motivated I'm thinking I'll probably get something along the lines of not affecting town roles or something. Otherwise I could be motivated infinitely and deny every single night kill. Just by lightning rodding every night.

Always lurking.

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:52:19+00:00

I can still keep rantai from dying because I'm bulletproof

it doesn't matter as long as the NK is negated

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:53:29+00:00

jinxy motivations shouldn't get blocked by bulletproof

it's a pro town role

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T05:53:44+00:00

Macho. Unable to be protected.

THAT is the problem. No negation will happen.

Always lurking.

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:54:25+00:00

right. Chris is useless. It doesn't matter, he's a fake anyways...

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:54:54+00:00

the motivation could possibly remove the macho part

it's worth it trying

Jinxy

Joined February 2009

Jinxy 2012-02-18T05:55:06+00:00

Chris wrote:
I can still keep rantai from dying because I'm bulletproof

it doesn't matter as long as the NK is negated

The NK won't be negated
Rantai attracts all actions including my motivate, but your guard will not work

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:55:57+00:00

I didn't realize that's what macho meant but it's still the best chance we've got

I mean I can't think of any alternatives

Jinxy

Joined February 2009

Jinxy 2012-02-18T05:56:02+00:00

And if it fails, please do suggest another plan

and fuck all of you ninjas

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T05:56:56+00:00

My plan is to lynch chris

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T05:58:21+00:00

how can you not want sync to be lynched after the way he's posting

not contributing at all and basically just becoming an annoyance

I still suggest jinxy motivate rantai and hopefully that'll allow you some way of not dying

I'll protect you tonight regardless

if jinxy is going to motivate you I mean

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T05:59:01+00:00

If it fails then we hit my-lo with either Sync or Chris as the mafia (due to the situation at hand).

Currently how I see it is that that the whole plan hinges on me dropping macho (which would be broken as hell if used with doctor)

Always lurking.

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:00:00+00:00

I can still only protect you for one night regardless without dying

if nohitter doesn't flip mafia then sync definitely is

there is no way for me to talk myself out of that so I know I'll be next, but REGARDLESS this is the best plan there is right now

gives the possibility of all 3 of us being lynched and you know at least one of us is mafia

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:01:06+00:00

What is there to contribute? It's useless. The game will end tonight as soon as you are lynched Chris.

Need I remind you guys how scummy Chris has been the entire game?

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:03:38+00:00

pro tip: ignoring syncs posts is good for your brain

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:04:29+00:00

Oh my god

Bulletproof bodyguard with even ONE cop (there are 2, 3 including Salvage's one shit) DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:04:49+00:00

yes the bulletproof bodyguard is the part that doesn't make sense between 3 town cops and a bodyguard

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:06:03+00:00

Jinxyjem, Rantai. I'm going to ask you this question directly. Please answer.

Does a Bulletproof bodyguard with 2 cops make any sense at all? Even though he could just protect them over and over again? What the fuck! It would never ever happen.

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:06:26+00:00

sync why are you slow

do you really think bulletproof means infinite

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:06:59+00:00

I can't believe I've been arguing with you for the past 5 pages because you don't know bulletproof means one shot

oh my fucking god

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:08:16+00:00

then why weren't you killed?

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:08:51+00:00

BECAUSE I WASN'T TARGETED

wow

notice how there has been a kill every night?

do you want to guess why

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:09:49+00:00

why the fuck wouldn't they target a god damn doctor

why wouldn't they even try?

edit: I removed caps

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:11:50+00:00

because nohitter probably isn't retarded and realizes what I was doing

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:12:38+00:00

you mean making yourself look mafia?

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T06:12:59+00:00

Chris wrote:
I can still only protect you for one night regardless without dying

*sigh* again this means YOU won't die. But I will. Bringing it to my-lo and then town playing roulette with you two.

With the lynching of one of you two, we can guarantee we out a mafia.

Always lurking.

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:14:45+00:00

you still don't know what you being motivated would do

it's a possibility that it would probably remove your negative macho thing and allow you to be protected

you lynching me doesn't prove sync or nohitter isn't or isn't mafia

killing nohitter will at least let me know sync is mafia

I'm seriously doubting it now though considering their entire suspicion is because they thought I was invincible

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:16:06+00:00

Rantai please answer my question. Did you see it? I really want your opinion... I'm so sure that Chris is mafia. I regret that I let of my suspicions for even a second, even though his horrible gambit helped town out in the end.

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:18:40+00:00

You too Jinxy

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:19:46+00:00

Let me change that "I really feel Chris is mafia" to "I really know Chris is mafia"

for god's sake I scanned him last night

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T06:21:11+00:00

Oh sorry, Sync, I must've missed it.

I can't remember if I've ever seen a BP bodyguard before. When I played one I didn't have it. In relation to cops, have 2 dedicated cops is extremely powerful by itself, add a JOAT for clutch doctor support a dedicated 'doctor' sits along the lines of reasonable opposed to definite.

Always lurking.

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T06:21:48+00:00

Then again with it only being 1 shot it's much more believable.

Always lurking.

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:23:20+00:00

Having a doctor/bodyguard and a cop in the same game itself is almost never seen and completely OP on town's end

Jinxy

Joined February 2009

Jinxy 2012-02-18T06:24:23+00:00

Honestly, I wish NH would just post already. Chris's plan has much too many holes if Rantai dies, no matter who is lynched today. But I would make a much better decision if NH popped up.

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T06:24:56+00:00

Actually no, doc/cop is a standard bread and butter setup for a 12 player game. "3" cops and "2" doctors is something else though. Either drop one or the other or town is pretty much set to win.

Always lurking.

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:25:38+00:00

hold on, I keep missing one detail

if chris was only one shot, then why did he claim he was protecting me all of that time? He said he protected me multiple times...

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:25:58+00:00

Oh look, Chris lied once again

Jinxy

Joined February 2009

Jinxy 2012-02-18T06:26:25+00:00

Because shots are only taken if Chris was targeted for.a kill

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T06:28:12+00:00

1 shot bulletproof. Not one shot protection. He's effectively a 2-shot bodyguard assuming correct block.

According to his claim.

Edit: effective --> effectively

Last edited by Rantai 2012-02-18T06:28:37+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Always lurking.

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:28:23+00:00

Oh right

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:28:25+00:00

my mind is absolutely blown right now

I am completely convince nohitter is mafia now

there is no way sync is

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:28:54+00:00

please for the love of god just kill nohitter

lynch me tomorrow if he flips town

I will even vote myself

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:30:41+00:00

No, let's lynch you tonight. We lynched pieguy without him responding and he turned out to be a cop. It's shown to be a bad idea. Where as you, who has shown to be scummy and tentative the whole game is clearly mafia.Not to mention that I am a flavour cop and you scanned mafia.

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:31:36+00:00

you're the one who pushed for pieguys lynch how can you even say anything about that

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T06:31:46+00:00

Leaving Sync up in the air the next day. If you are truly town then you are a taking a huge risk on NoHItter, if he flips town.

As it stands I'm still confident one of you are mafia.

Always lurking.

Sync

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Joined April 2011

Sync 2012-02-18T06:32:24+00:00

Chris wrote:
you're the one who pushed for pieguys lynch how can you even say anything about that

I did the first time

and then you started acting all scummy again

so then I wanted to lynch you

and then you said to lynch pieguy and everybody agreed.

Jinxy

Joined February 2009

Jinxy 2012-02-18T06:32:35+00:00

...well, if Chris is willing to get lynched over Sync...

I can get by the plan now as long the lynch targets are possible to attain, ie. 2. Lynch NH, Rantai use your ability tonight

Does Sync have any objections?

Jinxy

Joined February 2009

Jinxy 2012-02-18T06:33:11+00:00

ninjas

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:34:00+00:00

No, I am not going to let myself get lynched if Chris is still in the game. It's no use.

Jinxy: you are falling for a scum's very last trap; "I'm willing to lynch myself!! Haha, he isn't! He must be scum! lynch him!"

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:34:40+00:00

how is it a trap if I'm going to be lynched if nohitter flips town

Jinxy

Joined February 2009

Jinxy 2012-02-18T06:35:44+00:00

I'm not going to lynch you

I said lynch NH and go with the Rantai plan. If NH flips town Chris is lynched

Jinxy

Joined February 2009

Jinxy 2012-02-18T06:36:50+00:00

If Chris flips town too and Rantai didn't get NK'd, THEN you get lynched

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:37:37+00:00

Why not lynch Chris who has shown to be more scummy instead of lynching NoHItter?

Why not lynch somebody who is more obviously scum than one who is less obvious?

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:38:07+00:00

I'm going to protect rantai tonight just in case

jinxy motivate rantai please

rantai you should be able to see what your motivate is before the night is over, then you can determine to use your skill or not

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:38:59+00:00

This is retarded

have you guys read Chris' posts? If you have, do you think they are scummy? If not, why? How have they shown to be pro-town, not anti-town? I'm talking about the whole game.

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T06:39:08+00:00

Oh does that happen? (I've never been motivated before ever)

Always lurking.

Jinxy

Joined February 2009

Jinxy 2012-02-18T06:39:45+00:00

Sync just stop. Chris will be lynched if NH is town. There is no difference. If Chris is lynched today, then we have no chance to save Rantai

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:41:06+00:00

Jinxy: You still didn't answer my question.

Also, are you still guys thinking that NoHItter is a Framer? (just to know what is going through your heads)

I'm not going to stop Jinxy. I will push for a Chris lynch until he is dead and town wins.

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:41:30+00:00

Sorry if I'm annoying you for whatever reason

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T06:43:11+00:00

Ok so this plan depends on Sync's integrity. If you are confident he is town then I am happy to go through with this.

Always lurking.

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:43:57+00:00

Yes, I am 100% sure Chris is mafia.

Jinxy

Joined February 2009

Jinxy 2012-02-18T06:45:22+00:00

What's going through my head is I am not discounting any possibility, and your need to lynch Chris will happen either way. If Chris was lynched today and flips town, a NK will have a 100% chance to happen tonight.

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T06:46:11+00:00

Everyone else? How confident are you in Sync being town?

Reasoning; if my motivation fails and someone gets killed tonight then we have to maximise our confidence on the next lynch or it's GG.

Always lurking.

Rantai

Joined July 2010

Rantai 2012-02-18T06:47:06+00:00

I'm not going to throw away this game due to being still unsure who is what out of those two.

Always lurking.

Jinxy

Joined February 2009

Jinxy 2012-02-18T06:48:05+00:00

I do mostly believe Sync is town. I'm only more unsure between NH and Chris

Sync

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Sync 2012-02-18T06:49:23+00:00

If you simply look at Chris' posts then how exactly could you be unsure? Didn't you recognize his desperate attitude at the start of D4? Didn't you see him all of the sudden go for a Sync lynch D3 after I've only been pro-town this whole game, scanning people, giving results...

Chris_old

Joined February 2008

Chris_old 2012-02-18T06:53:44+00:00

sync you're more anti town than anyone right now regardless of your role

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