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Celebrity PYP Mafia (TOWN VICTORY!)

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Chris_old
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Chris_old
unvote vote nohitter

k I'm fully convinced, if he doesn't flip mafia tomorrow feel free to lynch me

nohitter lurking has from what I've seen meant mafia, not to mention he's posted in salvages game

I can't see there being 4 mafia in a 12 person game
Chris_old
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Chris_old
also sync gj if you're actually mafia though, you're annoying as hell to argue with
Sync
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Sync
i'm not mafia tho soz

I'm still not unvoting you. you've been way too tentative; you've been way too scummy. not to mention that if you did flip town then you've done a terrible job
Chris_old
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Chris_old
your vote doesn't matter thankfully

I don't care if you unvote me or not, you're obviously way passed being logical
Rantai
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Rantai
I have to agree that Jesus Christ is mafia is somewhat hilarious.

4 mafia is pretty ridiculous in a 12 player game if 2 for 1 is worth anything. It'd be way too easy to win as mafia. About framer, that's actually something I hadn't thought of but raises the question as to where did the other frames go? With the mass roleclaim and public announcements, it makes no sense why the framer hasn't turned up yet.

Assuming 3 mafia, with 6 people left we basically have 1 safe lynch left. Right now one of you is lying from my perspective because I can't think of a reason why the framer has just suddenly turned up.

Deflecting into a lurker is fairly suspicious though. I can understand your train of thought but... something isn't sitting right.

Worst case scenario though, lynching one of you confirms the other. Just contemplating the off chance of 4 mafia (and if there is I will rage at Mashley)
Sync
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Sync
Yes, thank you for sharing your thoughts Rantai. It's a nice breath of fresh air.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
rantai don't you understand that it's not because nohitter is a lurker, it's because he's the only one who sync hasn't scanned

at the same time it's possible sync is just straight up lying, but unless there was 4 mafia it'd make no sense

it's possible nohitter was just waiting until a more crucial moment, no one would take anything sync said if he just decided to get someone randomly mislynched
Sync
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Sync
Remember that I can still use my powers. Also, having an unlimited-shot bulletproof roleblocker and like 10 cops in one alignment is fucking retarded. The fact that Chris thought he could get away with it is ridiculous...
Chris_old
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Chris_old
sync stop being desperate
Sync
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Sync
Hey, don't call me desperate when you've posted hilarious things like

Chris wrote:

vote: sync

seriously I can't even believe that is the path you're trying to take sync

if I get lynched do you really expect not to be next
Sync
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Sync
sounds like a post foulcoon would make
Chris_old
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Chris_old
yeah because some 3rd town flavor cop saying "you're mafia" straight out and trying to rush a lynch makes total sense
Sync
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Sync
What's the point in waiting? The results said you were mafia. You've been scummy the whole game. It's been logical. also, I'm not rushing the lynch this day. I'm already mad about rushing lynches the previous days because pieguy could have really made this a lot easier.

Also, notice how you became a lot less desperate after you "suddenly realized" that there is a framer in this game.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
I feel like I need to go through and make a giant post as to why it makes no sense to not lynch nohitter/sync and put together all the points I've made over the entire thread

it seems like all the points I'm making are being ignored because the third "town" cop says I'm mafia and that's the only solution

also no one said there definitely was a framer, I said it was a real possibility

you're too terrible to imagine any alternatives and why there would be THREE TOWN COPS

three town cops

what the hell are you on to think that's normal
Backfire
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Backfire
Who was the third cop
Chris_old
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Chris_old
salvage/pieguy/sync

all cops
Sync
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Sync
why would I think that there would be not 3 cops, but even ONE COP with a bulletproof bodyguard in the same alignment
Chris_old
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Chris_old
my role is just a nerfed version of doctor, why are you acting like it's so amazing
Rantai
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Rantai
The easiest solution is to scan NoHItter tonight. The train of thought here is you have been 'confirmed' mafia by the rolecop. If the rolecop is lying then you flip town and we end it on Sync. If you turn out scum then Sync is town and he scans NoHItter and Jinxy tonight (unless there is someone else to scan?).

Setting aside that you don't like being lynched, your lynch will basically decide if Sync is mafia or not.
Backfire
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Backfire
Im pretty sure Salvage said he was independent?
Chris_old
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Chris_old
that still doesn't explain what happens if I wasn't framed, sync is mafia and sync says nohitter is a framer

then what, you're back in the same scenario
Sync
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Sync
and how would it be more useful if you were kept around?
Rantai
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Rantai
No, if you flip town I am going to disregard everything Sync says. At that point he's lied to get a doctor killed. If you flip mafia, yeah you already know. Unless on the off chance YOU both are mafia then this is really screwed up.

Also; a JOAT is 1 shot. Sure it's 3 cops but you can also say there are 2 doctors etc. (2 docs is pretty game changing). Taking that one with a little less weight.
Sync
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Sync
Rantai, Chris isn't a doctor. he even claimed he wasn't a doctor
Chris_old
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Chris_old
why doesn't jinxy motivate rantai, possibly giving them bulletproof or something
rantai uses their ability, I'll protect them

then we can at least negate a NK for one night

6 - 1 = 5, no NK
5 - 1 = 4, NK 3

two town 1 mafia

simple right
Sync
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Sync
He claimed he was a bulletproof bodyguard
Rantai
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Rantai
He's effectively a doctor if his claim is true. It serves the same role except the doctor itself cannot die (which makes it insanely powerful). Unless he backpedaled his bodyguard claim somewhere that I missed.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
I just came up with the best plan ever it gives us 3 lynches

all 3 of us can get lynched and there is no reason to argue it now
Chris_old
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Chris_old
I'm pretty sure I just won town this game jesus christ what a breakthrough
Sync
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Sync
good plan; let's lynch you first and then win
Chris_old
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Chris_old
yeah lynch the person who's going to protect rantai from the NK

why are you so bad
Chris_old
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Chris_old
OH RIGHT SYNC DOESN'T WANT SOMETHING SMART TO HAPPEN CAUSE HES MAFIA LOLOLOL
Sync
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Sync
dude I thought NoHItter was mafia? What the fuck?
Sync
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Sync
Why do you keep changing your mind?
Chris_old
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Chris_old
even though my plan sort of confirms me even if I was mafia and do nokill that's STILL better than me killing someone right

right it is

omggg I'm so good

sync stop being desperate my plan is perfect
Sync
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Sync
lol just hammer chris already
Jinxy
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Jinxy
Rantai's a macho lightningrod, Chris's plan will fall through if my motivation doesn't net a BP
Rantai
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Rantai
The only problem is that I'm macho, does a bodyguard work with that?

If I'm motivated I'm thinking I'll probably get something along the lines of not affecting town roles or something. Otherwise I could be motivated infinitely and deny every single night kill. Just by lightning rodding every night.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
I can still keep rantai from dying because I'm bulletproof

it doesn't matter as long as the NK is negated
Chris_old
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Chris_old
jinxy motivations shouldn't get blocked by bulletproof

it's a pro town role
Rantai
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Rantai
Macho. Unable to be protected.

THAT is the problem. No negation will happen.
Sync
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Sync
right. Chris is useless. It doesn't matter, he's a fake anyways...
Chris_old
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Chris_old
the motivation could possibly remove the macho part

it's worth it trying
Jinxy
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Jinxy

Chris wrote:

I can still keep rantai from dying because I'm bulletproof

it doesn't matter as long as the NK is negated
The NK won't be negated
Rantai attracts all actions including my motivate, but your guard will not work
Chris_old
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Chris_old
I didn't realize that's what macho meant but it's still the best chance we've got

I mean I can't think of any alternatives
Jinxy
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Jinxy
And if it fails, please do suggest another plan

and fuck all of you ninjas
Sync
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Sync
My plan is to lynch chris
Chris_old
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Chris_old
how can you not want sync to be lynched after the way he's posting

not contributing at all and basically just becoming an annoyance

I still suggest jinxy motivate rantai and hopefully that'll allow you some way of not dying

I'll protect you tonight regardless

if jinxy is going to motivate you I mean
Rantai
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Rantai
If it fails then we hit my-lo with either Sync or Chris as the mafia (due to the situation at hand).

Currently how I see it is that that the whole plan hinges on me dropping macho (which would be broken as hell if used with doctor)
Chris_old
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Chris_old
I can still only protect you for one night regardless without dying

if nohitter doesn't flip mafia then sync definitely is

there is no way for me to talk myself out of that so I know I'll be next, but REGARDLESS this is the best plan there is right now

gives the possibility of all 3 of us being lynched and you know at least one of us is mafia
Sync
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Sync
What is there to contribute? It's useless. The game will end tonight as soon as you are lynched Chris.

Need I remind you guys how scummy Chris has been the entire game?
Chris_old
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Chris_old
pro tip: ignoring syncs posts is good for your brain
Sync
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Sync
Oh my god

Bulletproof bodyguard with even ONE cop (there are 2, 3 including Salvage's one shit) DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!
Chris_old
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Chris_old
yes the bulletproof bodyguard is the part that doesn't make sense between 3 town cops and a bodyguard
Sync
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Sync
Jinxyjem, Rantai. I'm going to ask you this question directly. Please answer.

Does a Bulletproof bodyguard with 2 cops make any sense at all? Even though he could just protect them over and over again? What the fuck! It would never ever happen.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
sync why are you slow

do you really think bulletproof means infinite
Chris_old
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Chris_old
I can't believe I've been arguing with you for the past 5 pages because you don't know bulletproof means one shot

oh my fucking god
Sync
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Sync
then why weren't you killed?
Chris_old
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Chris_old
BECAUSE I WASN'T TARGETED

wow

notice how there has been a kill every night?

do you want to guess why
Sync
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Sync
why the fuck wouldn't they target a god damn doctor

why wouldn't they even try?

edit: I removed caps
Chris_old
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Chris_old
because nohitter probably isn't retarded and realizes what I was doing
Sync
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Sync
you mean making yourself look mafia?
Rantai
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Rantai

Chris wrote:

I can still only protect you for one night regardless without dying
*sigh* again this means YOU won't die. But I will. Bringing it to my-lo and then town playing roulette with you two.

With the lynching of one of you two, we can guarantee we out a mafia.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
you still don't know what you being motivated would do

it's a possibility that it would probably remove your negative macho thing and allow you to be protected

you lynching me doesn't prove sync or nohitter isn't or isn't mafia

killing nohitter will at least let me know sync is mafia

I'm seriously doubting it now though considering their entire suspicion is because they thought I was invincible
Sync
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Sync
Rantai please answer my question. Did you see it? I really want your opinion... I'm so sure that Chris is mafia. I regret that I let of my suspicions for even a second, even though his horrible gambit helped town out in the end.
Sync
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Sync
You too Jinxy
Sync
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Sync
Let me change that "I really feel Chris is mafia" to "I really know Chris is mafia"

for god's sake I scanned him last night
Rantai
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Oh sorry, Sync, I must've missed it.

I can't remember if I've ever seen a BP bodyguard before. When I played one I didn't have it. In relation to cops, have 2 dedicated cops is extremely powerful by itself, add a JOAT for clutch doctor support a dedicated 'doctor' sits along the lines of reasonable opposed to definite.
Rantai
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Rantai
Then again with it only being 1 shot it's much more believable.
Sync
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Sync
Having a doctor/bodyguard and a cop in the same game itself is almost never seen and completely OP on town's end
Jinxy
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Jinxy
Honestly, I wish NH would just post already. Chris's plan has much too many holes if Rantai dies, no matter who is lynched today. But I would make a much better decision if NH popped up.
Rantai
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Rantai
Actually no, doc/cop is a standard bread and butter setup for a 12 player game. "3" cops and "2" doctors is something else though. Either drop one or the other or town is pretty much set to win.
Sync
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hold on, I keep missing one detail

if chris was only one shot, then why did he claim he was protecting me all of that time? He said he protected me multiple times...
Sync
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Sync
Oh look, Chris lied once again
Jinxy
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Jinxy
Because shots are only taken if Chris was targeted for.a kill
Rantai
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Rantai
1 shot bulletproof. Not one shot protection. He's effectively a 2-shot bodyguard assuming correct block.

According to his claim.

Edit: effective --> effectively
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Sync
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Sync
Oh right
Chris_old
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Chris_old
my mind is absolutely blown right now

I am completely convince nohitter is mafia now

there is no way sync is
Chris_old
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Chris_old
please for the love of god just kill nohitter

lynch me tomorrow if he flips town

I will even vote myself
Sync
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Sync
No, let's lynch you tonight. We lynched pieguy without him responding and he turned out to be a cop. It's shown to be a bad idea. Where as you, who has shown to be scummy and tentative the whole game is clearly mafia.Not to mention that I am a flavour cop and you scanned mafia.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
you're the one who pushed for pieguys lynch how can you even say anything about that
Rantai
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Leaving Sync up in the air the next day. If you are truly town then you are a taking a huge risk on NoHItter, if he flips town.

As it stands I'm still confident one of you are mafia.
Sync
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Sync

Chris wrote:

you're the one who pushed for pieguys lynch how can you even say anything about that
I did the first time

and then you started acting all scummy again

so then I wanted to lynch you

and then you said to lynch pieguy and everybody agreed.
Jinxy
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...well, if Chris is willing to get lynched over Sync...

I can get by the plan now as long the lynch targets are possible to attain, ie. 2. Lynch NH, Rantai use your ability tonight

Does Sync have any objections?
Jinxy
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ninjas
Sync
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Sync
No, I am not going to let myself get lynched if Chris is still in the game. It's no use.

Jinxy: you are falling for a scum's very last trap; "I'm willing to lynch myself!! Haha, he isn't! He must be scum! lynch him!"
Chris_old
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Chris_old
how is it a trap if I'm going to be lynched if nohitter flips town
Jinxy
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Jinxy
I'm not going to lynch you

I said lynch NH and go with the Rantai plan. If NH flips town Chris is lynched
Jinxy
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Jinxy
If Chris flips town too and Rantai didn't get NK'd, THEN you get lynched
Sync
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Sync
Why not lynch Chris who has shown to be more scummy instead of lynching NoHItter?

Why not lynch somebody who is more obviously scum than one who is less obvious?
Chris_old
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Chris_old
I'm going to protect rantai tonight just in case

jinxy motivate rantai please

rantai you should be able to see what your motivate is before the night is over, then you can determine to use your skill or not
Sync
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Sync
This is retarded

have you guys read Chris' posts? If you have, do you think they are scummy? If not, why? How have they shown to be pro-town, not anti-town? I'm talking about the whole game.
Rantai
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Rantai
Oh does that happen? (I've never been motivated before ever)
Jinxy
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Jinxy
Sync just stop. Chris will be lynched if NH is town. There is no difference. If Chris is lynched today, then we have no chance to save Rantai
Sync
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Sync
Jinxy: You still didn't answer my question.

Also, are you still guys thinking that NoHItter is a Framer? (just to know what is going through your heads)

I'm not going to stop Jinxy. I will push for a Chris lynch until he is dead and town wins.
Sync
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Sync
Sorry if I'm annoying you for whatever reason
Rantai
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Rantai
Ok so this plan depends on Sync's integrity. If you are confident he is town then I am happy to go through with this.
Sync
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Sync
Yes, I am 100% sure Chris is mafia.
Jinxy
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Jinxy
What's going through my head is I am not discounting any possibility, and your need to lynch Chris will happen either way. If Chris was lynched today and flips town, a NK will have a 100% chance to happen tonight.
Rantai
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Rantai
Everyone else? How confident are you in Sync being town?

Reasoning; if my motivation fails and someone gets killed tonight then we have to maximise our confidence on the next lynch or it's GG.
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