19:44 <Odaril> : let's go for a IRC mod.
19:44 <Haneii> : hai
19:44 <Odaril> : add ed to the tags ?
19:44 <Odaril> : for "ending"
19:44 <Odaril> : and for short XD
19:44 <Haneii> : it does have ending in tags
19:45 <Odaril> : but not "ed" !
19:45 <Haneii> : if i searched ed in search i wouldn't get results
19:45 <Haneii> : its too generic
19:45 <Odaril> : okay, as you wish
19:45 <Haneii> : actully 16 is too...wow gotta remove that
19:46 <Odaril> : huh, why does Insane start earlier ?
19:48 <Haneii> : which one
19:48 <Haneii> : oh mine. why not?
19:48 <Odaril> : The question to ask is... "why ?"
19:48 <Odaril> : It's not consistant to have several starting points in a map
19:49 <Haneii> : it's only that diff though
19:49 <Haneii> : the others match
19:49 <Haneii> : right, not consistent...ummm
19:50 <Haneii> : I guess I like inconsistency
19:50 <Odaril> : ;~;
19:51 <Odaril> : why you refuse everything
19:51 <Haneii> : naw, I just don't want to change that/like it the way it is
19:51 <Haneii> : lol Odaril, and it kills me inside with every no
19:51 *Odaril shrugs
19:51 <Odaril> : you're free to
19:51 <Haneii> : The other diff actually did start at the same time as insane (normal and hard)
19:51 <Odaril> : yeah, that's why it bugged me
19:52 <Odaril> : well, for Normal
19:52 <Odaril> : use the biggest circle size ?
19:52 <Odaril> : Also I think you should reduce the difficulty settings, that's quite big for the easiest diff of the mapset
19:52 <Odaril> : imo
19:52 <Haneii> : lol you my 0.9 spacing huh
19:53 <Odaril> : nono
19:53 <Odaril> : the difficulty settings
19:53 <Odaril> : AR, OD, HP drain
19:53 <Haneii> : yeah i know
19:54 <Haneii> : i mean, i always get suggested to use a higher circle size because of my spacing on easier diffs
19:54 <Odaril> : not because of spacing
19:54 <Odaril> : but I tend to advice people to use the biggest circle size for the easiest diff
19:55 <Haneii> : okay i'll use the highest circle size
19:55 <Odaril> : yay
19:55 <Haneii> : diff settings stay the same though, sorry :p
19:55 <Odaril> :
19:56 <Odaril> : nuke è_é
19:56 <Haneii> : lol
19:56 <Haneii> : D:
19:56 <Haneii> : lol that would be great
19:56 <Haneii> : ztrot: Haneii what's your progress on mayonaka
19:56 <Haneii> : me: I GOT IT NUKED HAHAHAHAHS
19:56 <Odaril> : XD
19:58 <Odaril> : 00:02:260 (2,3) - these surprised me because they start on red ticks
19:58 <Odaril> : so you could like
19:58 <Odaril> : nudge them to the next tick
19:59 <Haneii> : lol nearly everything in that sections is on red....I'd have to do a lot more nudging
19:59 <Odaril> : no
19:59 <Haneii> : i'll try it out though
19:59 <Odaril> : the others are fine
19:59 <Odaril> : because they clearly match the lyrics so they aren't surprising
20:00 <Odaril> : but for these two sliders the lyrics are mainly on white ticks
20:00 <Haneii> : okay ^_^
20:00 <Haneii> : done
20:00 <Odaril> : ah
20:00 <Odaril> : actually, it needs more than just nudging forward
20:00 <Odaril> : you gotta kill the repeat and add a circle >< I'm sorry
20:01 <Haneii> : I don't see why that would be necessary
20:02 <Odaril> : because the last repeat doesn't match the vocals if you nudge forward
20:02 <Odaril> : ;~;
20:02 <Haneii> : 00:04:337 (3) - this one?
20:02 <Odaril> : both
20:03 <Haneii> : well when I moved them both I already accepted the fact that they wouldn't be following the vocals anymore....well working on it now,
20:03 <Haneii> : mainly rearranging things at this poin to make it fit
20:03 <Odaril> : tell me when done !
20:06 <Haneii> : done, update diff
20:06 <Odaril> : ah, don't update yet !
20:06 <Odaril> : 00:12:893 (1) - too soon after the spinner ><
20:06 <Haneii> : too late for that lol
20:06 <Odaril> : XD
20:06 <Haneii> : no it isn't
20:07 <Haneii> : it's a whole note away!
20:07 <Haneii> : sucks for me though since i spin so close to the center
20:07 <Odaril> : That's too close !
20:07 <Odaril> : like
20:07 <Odaril> : remember how new players spin
20:07 <Odaril> : they need some time for their aim to rea-okay fine
20:07 <Odaril> :
20:08 <Haneii> : this a normal not an easy - if they can't do it they need to practice until they can
20:08 <Odaril> :
20:08 <Haneii> : that sounded terrible
20:08 <Haneii> : ;_;
20:08 <Odaril> : well nothing else
20:10 <Haneii> : for the mapset or this diff?
20:10 <Odaril> : diff
20:11 <Odaril> : Hard
20:11 <Odaril> : 00:03:644 (4) - is this following the lyrics ?
20:11 <Odaril> : if yes should be 1/6 later
20:12 <Odaril> : nevermind
20:12 <Odaril> : the singer sucks
20:12 <Haneii> : yeah..this song was a mess to time/map too because of the singing
20:13 <Odaril> : okay my only concern is
20:13 <Odaril> : 00:12:674 (1) - this note is too far from the center of the screen
20:13 <Odaril> : so soon after the spinner
20:16 <Haneii> : okay, moved it closer to the center
20:16 <Odaril> : 00:19:681 - feels weird
20:16 <Odaril> : add notes like
20:17 <Odaril> : here and 00:19:900 - with a clap
20:18 <Odaril> : 00:34:353 (2) - clap on last beat ?
20:18 <Odaril> : 00:32:163 (2) - clap ?
20:18 <Haneii> : debating on it since I recently deleted the note there since my hard was too similar to my insane
20:18 <Odaril> : 00:35:667 (1) - clap ?
20:18 <Odaril> : oh
20:19 <Odaril> : you're free not to
20:19 <Odaril> : 00:37:419 (2) - clap ? ;~;
20:20 <Haneii> : lol added all those claps except 00:32:163 (2) -
20:20 <Odaril> : why not ?
20:21 <Haneii> :
20:21 <Odaril> :
isn't an answer è_é
20:23 <Haneii> : although this sounds empty 00:32:820 (4) - would a finish on the end sound too oddÉ
20:23 <Haneii> : and when did my keyboard switch to french ._'
20:23 <Haneii> : i can`t emoticon anymore D:
20:23 <Haneii> :
thats better - so yeah, your opinion on a finish there?
20:23 <Odaril> : sounds fine
20:23 <Odaril> : though this timing is fubreiogberiurh
20:23 <Haneii> : lol
20:24 <Odaril> : I get terrible accuracy on ztrot's Insane
20:24 <Odaril> : OD9 on your Insane D:
20:24 <Odaril> : no no no
20:24 <Haneii> : looooooooooool
20:24 <Haneii> : damit - someone noticed
20:24 <Odaril> : first off the OD is higher than the AR which makes no sense
20:24 <Haneii> : ar used to be 9
20:24 <Odaril> : because AR's supposed to help time the hits
20:24 <Haneii> : then got yelled at
20:24 <Odaril> : Reduce OD to 8 ><
20:24 <Haneii> : so tried to make it harder with od
20:25 <Haneii> : lol sure
20:25 <Odaril> : hey that was ztrot's Insane
20:25 <Odaril> : reduce the OD to 8 in both diffs
20:25 <Haneii> : well mine had a od 9 so i reduced to 8 now
20:26 <Haneii> : umm I'll tell ztrot about his diff
20:27 <Haneii> : sigh now my inssane is easy (why can't i have a crzy ar 9 od 9 diff - no im not trying to make a ctb difficulty/find a loop hole by making a
20:27 <Haneii> : standard map)
20:27 <Odaril> : Insane isn't that easy
20:27 <Odaril> : some of these jumps are troll
20:28 <Haneii> : well it was mapped for ctb not standard
20:28 <Odaril> : play okayish in standard
20:28 <Odaril> : 00:04:106 (8) - make it symmetrical ?
20:28 <Haneii> : yeah i spent a couple weeks trying to make it "standardable"
20:29 <Haneii> : umm odaril...that's my best at making it symmetrical
20:29 <Odaril> :
20:29 <Odaril> : let me help you
20:29 <Haneii> : mm even made me a screenshot to follow and I still fail
20:29 <Odaril> : alright
20:29 <Odaril> : first of all
20:29 <Haneii> : shiirn gave me a lesson and it still isn't symmetrical >_<
20:29 *Haneii sucks
20:29 <Odaril> : click the slider
20:29 <Odaril> : ANd hit ctrl+H
20:30 <Odaril> : see how the two points on the circles don't match ?
20:30 <Odaril> : Move the point at the end of the slider so they do
20:30 <Haneii> : what points?
20:30 <Haneii> : @_@
20:31 <Odaril> : click the slider D:
20:31 <Haneii> : oh
20:31 <Odaril> : there are 5 sliderpoints
20:31 <Haneii> : sorry didn't have it clicked loooooooooool
20:31 <Haneii> : okay, so try and make them match
20:31 <Odaril> : okay
20:31 <Odaril> : use ctrl+H to see if they match
20:32 <Odaril> : ztrot lets you choose for the OD on his diff
20:33 <Odaril> :
why
20:33 <Odaril> : lower it ;~;
20:33 <Haneii> : nope
20:33 <Odaril> : not bubbling
20:33 <Haneii> : anyways...I killed the slider
20:33 <Odaril> : >_<
20:33 <Odaril> : not yet !
20:33 <Haneii> : awwwww
20:33 <Odaril> : Are the first and 5th points perfectly symmetrical ?
20:34 <Haneii> : I can't get them to move where I want them...
20:34 <Odaril> : you can
20:34 <Odaril> : is grid snap enabled ?
20:34 <Haneii> : yes
20:34 <Odaril> : lock notes ?
20:34 <Haneii> : no
20:34 <Odaril> : also you should be moving the 5th point
20:34 <Haneii> : 5th one isn't the problem
20:34 <Odaril> : Check with ctrl+H regularly
20:34 <Odaril> : oh
20:34 <Odaril> : Just follow my steps ><
20:34 <Haneii> : aww i wasn't suppose to touch the 1st one?
20:34 <Odaril> : Nope
20:34 <Odaril> : ctrl+z go !
20:35 <Haneii> : lol
20:35 <Odaril> : Is the slider back to its first state ?
20:35 <Haneii> : yes
20:36 <Odaril> : okay
20:36 <Odaril> : move the 5th point
20:36 <Odaril> : so it's symmetrical to the 1st one
20:36 <Odaril> : check with ctrl+H
20:36 <Odaril> : done ?
20:36 <Haneii> : im sorry brb
20:36 <Odaril> : ;~;
20:37 <Haneii> : back, sorry about that phonecall
20:37 <Odaril> : dw
20:37 <Odaril> : are the first and 5th points symmetrical ?
20:38 <Haneii> : i think
20:38 <Odaril> : check with ctrl+H
20:38 <Haneii> : but the slider itself isn't...
20:38 <Odaril> : not yet !
20:39 <Odaril> : okay
20:39 <Odaril> : then
20:39 <Odaril> : move the second sliderpoint so it is symmetrical with the 4th
20:39 <Odaril> : the same way
20:39 <Haneii> : waaait
20:39 <Haneii> : they're not symmetrical
20:39 <Odaril> : >_<
20:40 <Haneii> : okay i think they are now
20:41 <Odaril> : 5th and 1st ?
20:41 <Haneii> : yeah
20:41 <Odaril> : did you move the second as well ?
20:41 <Haneii> : nope doing that now
20:41 <Haneii> : match it with 4th right?
20:41 <Odaril> : yes
20:41 <Haneii> : done
20:41 <Odaril> : now
20:41 <Odaril> : keeping the 3rd ON THE VERTICAL AXIS
20:42 <Odaril> : move it so that when you move it by 1 grid down
20:42 <Odaril> : the slider shortens
20:42 <Haneii> : okay slider shortened
20:43 <Odaril> : now move the point one grid higher
20:43 <Odaril> : your slider should be symmetrical !
20:43 <Odaril> : well, not perfectly, but enough !
20:43 <Haneii> : which point am i moving?
20:44 <Odaril> : 3rd
20:44 <Haneii> : k
20:45 <Odaril> : done ?
20:45 <Haneii> : well, when I ctrl+h it still not identical...
20:45 <Odaril> : .-.
20:45 <Odaril> : well, we'll see about it later !
20:45 <Odaril> : did you lower the OD in ztrot's diff ?
20:45 <Haneii> : but the points look symmetrical
20:45 <Haneii> : okay
20:45 <Haneii> : are we done with this diff for now?
20:45 <Odaril> : not yet
20:46 <Odaril> : 00:53:842 (1,1) - remove new combo
20:46 <Haneii> : you don't think the sudden jumps need it? okay
20:47 <Odaril> : 01:09:170 (1,2) - move them higher so the spacing with (3) is consitent ?
20:47 <Odaril> : consistent
20:47 <Odaril> : 01:12:017 (1) - clap on end ?
20:48 <Odaril> : update the map so I can check that one slider
20:49 *Odaril pokes
20:50 <Haneii> : im having troubles with 01:10:026 -
20:50 <Odaril> : oh
20:50 <Odaril> : why
20:50 <Haneii> : this whole combo
20:50 <Odaril> : you just need to move (1,2) up
20:50 <Odaril> : and place (3) on the Y axis
20:51 <Haneii> : how does that make spacing consistent
20:51 <Odaril> : 1.00
20:51 <Haneii> : 3's still close
20:52 <Haneii> : okay done
20:52 <Odaril> : update
20:52 <Haneii> : wait, clap next
20:52 <Haneii> : updated
20:53 <Odaril> : let's see
20:53 <Odaril> : lower ztrot's OD D:
20:53 <Haneii> : lool kk give me a sec
20:54 <Odaril> : 00:04:106 (8) - if you want it to look more symmetrical
20:54 <Odaril> : move 2nd and 4th points one grid closer to the vertical axis
20:54 <Odaril> : or 2 even
20:57 <Haneii> : yay it works \o/
20:57 <Haneii> : pretty slider is pretty <3
20:57 <Haneii> : so OD on ztrots diff
20:57 <Odaril> : changed ?
20:57 <Haneii> : can you please tell him your reasoning why like you did me (acc thing when you played it)
20:57 <Odaril> : oh... why
20:57 <Haneii> : I guess I don't feel comfortable just changing it when he likes it the way it is
20:58 <Odaril> : well he said you were free to change however you wanted
20:58 <Odaril> : he obviously doesn't care much about it
20:59 <Haneii> : okay - give me a sec
21:01 <Odaril> : tell me when you have updated
21:02 <Haneii> : udated
21:02 <Haneii> : sorry i took so long - seems like freedoms broken >_<
21:03 <Odaril> : yeah
21:05 <Odaril> : ok
21:05 <Odaril> : bubbled
~ Sure, I'll map out something less lazy ...okay I fail at making things interesting, but at least its 2 sliders now! ^_^;
(I don 't want to stack it or remove the stack on the following slider either >_<)
