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I'm not a vigilante per-se
the reason why I know about the setup is because I'm a bulletproof serial killer who loses bulletproof and turns town after I double kill any faction type
the reason why I know about the setup is because I'm a bulletproof serial killer who loses bulletproof and turns town after I double kill any faction type
that sounds like an incredibly believable claim
who is your little girl
who is your little girl
as in no sarcasm bulletproof SK is exactly the shit Lilac would pull
but I'm doubting the turns town bit. how does that work with flavor because my role is basically exactly my girl's touhou role
well, if I don't double kill a faction type and instead kill 1 of each, I win
so there's no turning town after I've won
so there's no turning town after I've won
this would be the second time two claims an anti town role and doesnt get lynched, its actually pretty funny how u guys fear him
Uh Parsee, the jealousy girl?
I don't really see how that turns town after 2 kills. Then again I don't know her character too well outside she attacks you in SA.
I don't really see how that turns town after 2 kills. Then again I don't know her character too well outside she attacks you in SA.
salvage why would you ever say anyone is scared of two
that's just like a bad reverse psychology attempt
that's just like a bad reverse psychology attempt
cause its true, you know he just claimed serial killer and nobody votes him
vote: Two
vote: Two
well
vote: Two
fuck
I mean I was gonna just kill him but I missed the bulletproof part
vote: Two
fuck
I mean I was gonna just kill him but I missed the bulletproof part
that's like saying you should lynch cult because oh my god they're cult
pro tip: cult is just empowered town and should be kept alive to assist town in winning
pro tip: cult is just empowered town and should be kept alive to assist town in winning
Deja vu.Salvage wrote:
this would be the second time two claims an anti town role and doesnt get lynched, its actually pretty funny how u guys fear him
Anyway I feel conflicted above this claim. It's so simple yet I cannot fathom the reason why he would out it so early. Also no on turning town, it just doesn't fit if my reading is worth anything.
@cult - That is until they become bigger than town. Then you're screwed.
no, even when cult is bigger than town you still achieve your goal of beating the mafia
not to mention the cult is comprised almost entirely of town members
you lose in name only, and even then only if you died before being assimilated
not to mention the cult is comprised almost entirely of town members
you lose in name only, and even then only if you died before being assimilated
1 claimed serial killer
or 1 mafia/confirmed town
logic pls
or 1 mafia/confirmed town
logic pls
this is hillarous
anyways im going to work people i'll see if i can post there, just lynch the claimed anti town member please and dont take everything people say as a fact, try to analyze it logically first cause everything two's saying doesnt make sense thx.
anyways im going to work people i'll see if i can post there, just lynch the claimed anti town member please and dont take everything people say as a fact, try to analyze it logically first cause everything two's saying doesnt make sense thx.
serial killer is independent
therefor serial killer isn't anti town
in this case it's actually anti-mafia which is why you want him gone
therefor serial killer isn't anti town
in this case it's actually anti-mafia which is why you want him gone
Sounds kind of crappy really. It's like getting 100% on every assessment but failing the final exam and failing the entire course anyway (yes that's the best I could think of, sue me). Sure you did great during the duration but in the end a fail is still a fail.Two wrote:
no, even when cult is bigger than town you still achieve your goal of beating the mafia
not to mention the cult is comprised almost entirely of town members
you lose in name only, and even then only if you died before being assimilated
"Serial killer isn't anti-town" - Wow I have been enlightened beyond my most vivid dreams.
Seriously though, let's say he is telling the truth about his win con, then he is very much anti-town as it requires town death to achieve (not to mention is very easy to achieve given some luck).
exactlyChris wrote:
in this case it's actually anti-mafia which is why you want him gone
if wojjan was truly a town vigilante, they'd be worried about being night killed
if you claim night vigilante day 1, guess who the mafia are going to target?
but wait, someone else claimed something that is effectively the same
"let's lynch him so that the target is definitely on me"
except there was never a target on wojjan to begin with because wojjan dictates where that target is
don't forget they backed out of their "vote who you want me to shoot" with "don't want 3 kills in 1 night"
my win condition can be the same as town's if I simply hit 2 mafia at any point in the game, or 2 independentRantai wrote:
Seriously though, let's say he is telling the truth about his win con, then he is very much anti-town as it requires town death to achieve (not to mention is very easy to achieve given some luck).
even if I hit 2 town I become town, so really your apprehension is illogical
Chris wrote:
don't forget they backed out of their "vote who you want me to shoot" with "don't want 3 kills in 1 night"
The other way round, ChrisWojjan wrote:
or do you not want three kills in one night that's cool too.
no it's exactly how I said itJInxyjem wrote:
Chris wrote:
don't forget they backed out of their "vote who you want me to shoot" with "don't want 3 kills in 1 night"The other way round, ChrisWojjan wrote:
or do you not want three kills in one night that's cool too.
You are more likely to hit one of two different types, and when that happens you win independent from us.Two wrote:
my win condition can be the same as town's if I simply hit 2 mafia at any point in the game, or 2 independentRantai wrote:
Seriously though, let's say he is telling the truth about his win con, then he is very much anti-town as it requires town death to achieve (not to mention is very easy to achieve given some luck).
even if I hit 2 town I become town, so really your apprehension is illogical
And if you hit 2 town, we still lose a town
And if you hit 1 mafia, 1 town that's a win right there. Or did I misread it?
dammit rantai i was doing a grammar edit
look since I want to lol when salvage flips mafia here's how it's going to work
you're all going to vote salvage
if you don't I'm going to reverse time until you do
if salvage isn't mafia I'll reverse time
if he is, two kill wojjan
simple enough right
you're all going to vote salvage
if you don't I'm going to reverse time until you do
if salvage isn't mafia I'll reverse time
if he is, two kill wojjan
simple enough right
no, like I said there's an approximately even divide of alignmentsJInxyjem wrote:
You are more likely to hit one of two types, and when that happens you win independent from us.
And if you hit 2 town, we still lose a town
I assume that means 5/5/6
I'm not good at math but I'm 100% sure that means I'm more likely to become town, and regardless of that I just told you how I can win
are you all unable to lynch me if I come close to winning?
Oh look a sakuya whoopChris wrote:
look since I want to lol when salvage flips mafia here's how it's going to work
you're all going to vote salvage
if you don't I'm going to reverse time until you do
if salvage isn't mafia I'll reverse time
if he is, two kill wojjan
simple enough right
Except you need 2 kills. For example, you kill a town, you can claim you're going to aim a town and then you shoot down an independent or maf.Two wrote:
no, like I said there's an approximately even divide of alignmentsJInxyjem wrote:
You are more likely to hit one of two types, and when that happens you win independent from us.
And if you hit 2 town, we still lose a town
I assume that means 5/5/6
I'm not good at math but I'm 100% sure that means I'm more likely to become town, and regardless of that I just told you how I can win
are you all unable to lynch me if I come close to winning?
I have lost all faith in this ever happening.Two wrote:
are you all unable to lynch me if I come close to winning?
no I need 3 kills to win and 2 kills to turn town
to be more clear
1 independent, 1 mafia, 1 town = win
2 of any type = town conversion
to be more clear
1 independent, 1 mafia, 1 town = win
2 of any type = town conversion
I don't know what you said is jinxy but I'm Keine Kamishirasawa if you want to reference
Ohh right independent. That slipped my mind.
so can all the cool people vote salvage so I can demonstrate my ability if he's town
even salvage shouldn't have a problem with that
or wojjan
even salvage shouldn't have a problem with that
or wojjan
Keine.... can rewrite history right?
Makes some sort of sense then I guess.
Makes some sort of sense then I guess.
I have no idea I just picked stuff that looked overpoweredRantai wrote:
Keine.... can rewrite history right?
Makes some sort of sense then I guess.
also notice wojjan left the same time salvage did
didn't want to be the only mafia defending him
didn't want to be the only mafia defending him
I've been duped before but I trust Chris much more than you, Two.
Then again confirming Salvage would be nice too, especially on a day 1 lynch.
Vote: Salvage
Then again confirming Salvage would be nice too, especially on a day 1 lynch.
Vote: Salvage
lol roleblock two
didn't you mean that for mafia chat
didn't you mean that for mafia chat
the only thing that is stopping me from automatically wanting to kill you wojjan is that you aren't gravitating towards power in this game
if salvage flips mafia you need to kill them to earn our trustTwo wrote:
the only thing that is stopping me from automatically wanting to kill you wojjan is that you aren't gravitating towards power in this game
also I'm definitely dead tonight since I can reverse time and two's bulletproof
if someone wants to be cool you should watch me and get another mafia
if someone wants to be cool you should watch me and get another mafia
no I mean roleblock two exactly as roleblock two if anyone has a roleblock because he is an independent serial killer and we don't want people dying.
people = youWojjan wrote:
no I mean roleblock two exactly as roleblock two if anyone has a roleblock because he is an independent serial killer and we don't want people dying.
I sacrificed myself for you to die I would be disappointed if you didn'tWojjan wrote:
exactly
why would you want to die
Wait, how does this reverse time thing work, does it only affect Day?
Jinxyjem: not voting for salvage, wants more information about a pro-town ability
I'm tallying the votes so I don't end up doing a hammer or something before everyone's been online, and I assumed reverse time would change Night too or something. This is a new role to me.
...ok, votes are fine, vote: Salvage
Rantai - 1 (Dafydd)
dkun - 1 (Sync)
Salvage - 5 (Two, Chris, Rantai, Wojjan, JInxyjem)
Two - 1 (Salvage)
8 to lynch
...ok, votes are fine, vote: Salvage
Rantai - 1 (Dafydd)
dkun - 1 (Sync)
Salvage - 5 (Two, Chris, Rantai, Wojjan, JInxyjem)
Two - 1 (Salvage)
8 to lynch
Just for completions sake: Chris, could you please elaborate on the exact abilities of your role?
While Time Reverser or something like that makes lots of sense for Keine, according to your post where you "claimed" the role, you softclaimed that you could use it multiple times?
And what exactly does your ability do, reset the game state to the beginning of the day that just passed?
I assume night actions would be canceled out as well, but does your ability take priority over being roleblocked or something? This is pretty much the only problem I have with lynching Salvage - if he flips Town and you get roleblocked, we have basically wasted our lynch after all. Sure, we get a confirmed townie for 2 days, but still...
Or is it a dusk role or something? But then we wouldn't get the lynch results, right?
Two claims crazy stuff as usual and I really don't like the prospect of keeping a claimed SK with minor odds of helping town alive, but in case his "setup information" of about 1/3 town 1/3 indy 1/3 scum is true (which would be a wonky setup btw) that would lessen his chance to kill 2 town before eliminating at least something anti-town.
It still means that we have only a few mislynches before town is in a significant minority.
While Time Reverser or something like that makes lots of sense for Keine, according to your post where you "claimed" the role, you softclaimed that you could use it multiple times?
if you don't I'm going to reverse time until you doWas that a bluff or do you have multiple shots?
And what exactly does your ability do, reset the game state to the beginning of the day that just passed?
I assume night actions would be canceled out as well, but does your ability take priority over being roleblocked or something? This is pretty much the only problem I have with lynching Salvage - if he flips Town and you get roleblocked, we have basically wasted our lynch after all. Sure, we get a confirmed townie for 2 days, but still...
Or is it a dusk role or something? But then we wouldn't get the lynch results, right?
Two claims crazy stuff as usual and I really don't like the prospect of keeping a claimed SK with minor odds of helping town alive, but in case his "setup information" of about 1/3 town 1/3 indy 1/3 scum is true (which would be a wonky setup btw) that would lessen his chance to kill 2 town before eliminating at least something anti-town.
It still means that we have only a few mislynches before town is in a significant minority.
it's not in towns best interest for me to elaborate
Okay, fine then
I just hope you know what you're doing
vote: Salvage
I just hope you know what you're doing
vote: Salvage
unvote
I don't understand completely what's going on but,
vote Salvage
I don't understand completely what's going on but,
vote Salvage
And Salvage is on L-1
Dafydd I honestly hope you at least tried to read the thread. Could you say what you don't understand?
Dafydd I honestly hope you at least tried to read the thread. Could you say what you don't understand?
Chris wrote:
look since I want to lol when salvage flips mafia here's how it's going to work
you're all going to vote salvage
if you don't I'm going to reverse time until you do
if salvage isn't mafia I'll reverse time
if he is, two kill wojjan
simple enough right
im cool with this, if he doesnt revert time lynch two followed by chris or the other way arround
I like how a quarter of the players just missed the whole of Day 1
... holy crap pages
So in summary:
a) Two claimed SK who "needs" to kill three factions to win.
b) Salvage claimed restless spirit.
c) We're lynching Salvage to confirm him, even though he'll day in two days, but...
d) Chris claimed Time Reverser, so it's fine?
Mod: When do flips occur? Do they occur at the end
So in summary:
a) Two claimed SK who "needs" to kill three factions to win.
b) Salvage claimed restless spirit.
c) We're lynching Salvage to confirm him, even though he'll day in two days, but...
d) Chris claimed Time Reverser, so it's fine?
Mod: When do flips occur? Do they occur at the end
EBWOP:
of the Day?
of the Day?
It's time to play Mafia. You have 5 days. It takes 9 to lynch.
Last time I added a Time Reverser, I delayed the flip to the next day.
Just confirming it, or else we would possibly be wasting this lynch trying to confirm someone who may never flip in the first place.
Just confirming it, or else we would possibly be wasting this lynch trying to confirm someone who may never flip in the first place.
EBWOP:
I did this in PyP Video Game Mafia as the mod.
I did this in PyP Video Game Mafia as the mod.
what kind of terrible role only lets you reverse before the flip
Oh right derp votes need to be over 50% not smack on it pardon me, L-2Two wrote:
It's time to play Mafia. You have 5 days. It takes 9 to lynch.
That's what I want to confirm first.Chris wrote:
what kind of terrible role only lets you reverse before the flip
I'm all up for the plan, since it'll confirm two people if it does occur (you and Salvage), but if Lilac did follow my scheme of flipping then this lynch would be useless.
I can see how it could be useful in a 2 town v 1 scum endgame scenario. Other than that it'd be mostly annoying I guessChris wrote:
what kind of terrible role only lets you reverse before the flip
something tells me I wont need to be using it considering salvage wont vote for himself
holy shit 10 pages while I was sleeping
going to catch up
going to catch up
too sick to care about all of this silly banter between the two love couples
Vote: Salvage because if he's a restless ghost then it doesn't even matter other than a wasted lynch
Vote: Salvage because if he's a restless ghost then it doesn't even matter other than a wasted lynch
We're still at L-1.
Wojjan already voted Salvage earlier.
Wojjan already voted Salvage earlier.
they were trying to be slickNoHItter wrote:
We're still at L-1.
Wojjan already voted Salvage earlier.
so mafia~
I'm still waiting on Lilac to confirm the specifics, but if you really want the day to end that badly Chris, I'll vote him.
But it's your role ability that could be wasted.
But it's your role ability that could be wasted.
I do want to see the flip but I am curious if it's gonna happen today or tomorrowNoHItter wrote:
I'm still waiting on Lilac to confirm the specifics, but if you really want the day to end that badly Chris, I'll vote him.
But it's your role ability that could be wasted.
Hello everyone, Verizon's service has been down so I had no access to internet till this hour at school.
Sorry about that.
Sorry about that.
Chris wrote:
noWojjan wrote:
please reroll time Chris
whats that about
what a waste oh my god.
im hammered i think
just in case
vote: salvage
of course once you realize the votes aren't moving
you were probably hammered to begin with, too lazy to count but I bet you did
you were probably hammered to begin with, too lazy to count but I bet you did
ok this is how this works:
if chris doesn't reverse time lynch him.
lynch two first tommorrow either way, it doesnt matter what he says just fucking lynch him if you want to win the game (to everyone who is town and wants to win, if not then dont sing up)
thats all i guess?
if chris doesn't reverse time lynch him.
lynch two first tommorrow either way, it doesnt matter what he says just fucking lynch him if you want to win the game (to everyone who is town and wants to win, if not then dont sing up)
thats all i guess?
he's got a strong point here.Salvage wrote:
ok this is how this works:
if chris doesn't reverse time lynch him.
lynch two first tommorrow either way, it doesnt matter what he says just fucking lynch him if you want to win the game (to everyone who is town and wants to win, if not then dont sing up)
thats all i guess?
that makes no sense salvage
I can't win until I have 3 kills, or until all mafia/independents are dead (if I become town)
it only is sensible to lynch me day 3, and even then I could just hold off on killing until someone was confirmed as something (I'm guaranteed town with coordination)
I can't win until I have 3 kills, or until all mafia/independents are dead (if I become town)
it only is sensible to lynch me day 3, and even then I could just hold off on killing until someone was confirmed as something (I'm guaranteed town with coordination)
i dont believe anything you say after claiming SK and i think town doing the same is what should happen
you claiming serial killer is enough to lynch you, the rest is crap you make up to survive/complete your win conditions
with that said next lynch will be Two regardless of what he says, don't be stupid and lynch anyone else
you claiming serial killer is enough to lynch you, the rest is crap you make up to survive/complete your win conditions
with that said next lynch will be Two regardless of what he says, don't be stupid and lynch anyone else
we definitely have to lynch Two tomorrow though no side benefits from leaving a serial killer around no matter what bullshit Two or Chris spout
if you are reading this and think "well I don't know" then think harder. You are advocating that a serial killer stays in the game.
if you are reading this and think "well I don't know" then think harder. You are advocating that a serial killer stays in the game.
Topic Starter
That's the hammer. It is currently dusk phase. 12 hours.
Everyone has received their role except one person. Said person must respond in 10 hours
Everyone has received their role except one person. Said person must respond in 10 hours