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Touhou PyP II - [Game end. Just incompetence by me.]

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Jinxy
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Jinxy

Chris wrote:

JInxyjem <- Town
Wojjan < - Mafia
NoHItter < - Town
Luna <- Town
Rantai <- Mafia
animask <- Town
pieguy <- Mafia
Sync <- Town
Salvage <- Town
Backfire <- Town
dkun <- Town
LadySuburu <- Mafia
Dafydd <- Town
Ivalset <- Town

vote: Wojjan
My, that was fast. What do you think their roles are, though?

pieguy is totally Remi, Flan or someone from the SDM, and vampires are bad, therefore Vote: pieguy
Dafydd
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Dafydd
I don't know much about people's favorites...
Anyway...

vote: Rantai
Sync
osu! Alumni
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Sync
vote: dkun

we all know you hate touhou with a passion
Salvage
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Salvage
Sync i dont want any of ur joke votes or rvs votes here
Salvage
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Salvage
also i dont get ur expeculations chris if u dont know anything about touhou
Two_old
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Two_old

Chris wrote:

JInxyjem <- Town
Wojjan < - Mafia
NoHItter < - Town
Luna <- Town
Rantai <- Mafia
animask <- Town
pieguy <- Mafia
Sync <- Town
Salvage <- Town
Backfire <- Town
dkun <- Town
LadySuburu <- Mafia
Dafydd <- Town
Ivalset <- Town

vote: Wojjan
wrong

let's not beat around the bush here

there is an almost entirely equal divide between "3" factions in this game, those factions being town mafia and independent

any one person has a higher chance of not being town than town, and based on salvage's incredibly and uncharacteristically weak posts, I'd say salvage is one of them

vote salvage
Salvage
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Salvage
thats one hell of a shitty argument you have there two
Two_old
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Two_old
and yet it's more compelling than anything you have or will post this game

beautifully illustrating my point
Salvage
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Salvage
are u saying that while im not saying anything you can say something .. that even when it doesnt make sense like at all, its enough to tell im mafia?



u disappoint me two :(
Salvage
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Salvage
its funny to the point you're post is even worse than a random one cause the reason of it its horrible
Two_old
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Two_old
salvage, do you even realize that the motivation behind defensively double posting is almost always the attacker being accurate?
Chris_old
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Chris_old

Two wrote:

salvage, do you even realize that the motivation behind defensively double posting is almost always the attacker being accurate?
ohhh snap
Salvage
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Salvage
two, do you even realize that your arguments are extremely ridiculous?
Salvage
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Salvage
really
Chris_old
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Chris_old
wow he did it again
Salvage
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Salvage
hey two is that the way you think you can lynch me d1? cause its pretty bad im sorry :(
Jinxy
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Jinxy

Salvage wrote:

two, do you even realize that your arguments are extremely ridiculous?

Salvage wrote:

really
The "really" post seems like Salvage purposely wanted to double post after Two made that... interesting... accusation. Not sure what it means but I am sorta getting weird vibes.
Rantai
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Rantai
Oh it's the volatile combination of players again. Rollercoaster time.

Did anyone else miss the fact that Chris didn't mention Two at all? /wild theories ahoy
Chris_old
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Chris_old

Rantai wrote:

Oh it's the volatile combination of players again. Rollercoaster time.

Did anyone else miss the fact that Chris didn't mention Two at all? /wild theories ahoy
they weren't added to the members list when I made that
Dafydd
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Dafydd
I thought I was the last guy in the list...
Rantai
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Rantai
Hrm can't exactly prove that either way but alright then.
Two_old
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Two_old

Dafydd wrote:

I thought I was the last guy in the list...
you were

then lilac added ivalset, and then later they added me

now vote for salvage
Salvage
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Salvage
how much did we bet again two?


lmao



see nohitter how rvs sucks
Two_old
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Two_old
editing your post to avoid double posting

another admission of guilt
Wojjan
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Wojjan
hahaha
wow
vote: Two
try harder to lynch my waifu day one
like
get an argument first
Chris_old
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Chris_old
wow I was right wojjan really is mafia
Two_old
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Two_old
your argument is qualitatively the same as salvage's

as in, you are ironically not making an argument while trying to say I should have one (which I do)
Salvage
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Salvage
you don't, the funny part is you just throw stuff without sense hoping for people to believe them as true (like the two post thing which i allways do lmao)



get over it two u lost the bet
Wojjan
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Wojjan
Two your argument was Salvage makes weak posts. If you're gonna call it that, at least admit it's a poor one and not one that's gonna wrist out a lynch anytime soon. You were hoping that Salvage was going to trip, and when he didn't you started imagining a trip for the sake of it.

I don't want to lynch Two Chris or Salvage because they are all cool but god damn that was a dumb move. You're out of it Two.
Two_old
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Two_old
wojjan, I sincerely felt his posts were uncharacteristic of a town salvage

then, when he reacted to my accusations in a way that mafia would react, I pointed it out

please tell me how that is baseless
Wojjan
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Wojjan
Because the alleged reactions you read are entirely nulltells.
Salvage
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Salvage
i laughed at ur accusation, cause it was horrible


please tell me how that is "a way mafia would react"
Wojjan
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Wojjan
I made like five posts after one another in secret santa mafia and you know my alignment.
Two_old
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Two_old
so you're going to tell me that you thoughtfully considered my motivations for calling out salvage, but that salvage's motivations for reacting the way he did were "null"?
Wojjan
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Wojjan
yes
Two_old
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Two_old
well, I completely disagree

and I have a better track record so I trust my intuition more
Chris_old
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Chris_old
wojjan salvage pieguy rantai

that's my new mafia list
Two_old
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Two_old
16/3 = 5.33

probably a 5th
Salvage
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Salvage
hi rantai
Chris_old
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Chris_old
unvote vote salvage

that's the most mafia post you've made yet
Wojjan
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Wojjan

Two wrote:

well, I completely disagree

and I have a better track record so I trust my intuition more
alright

unvote
Salvage
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Salvage
ok thx



u guys are seriously sucking or being mafia, being persuaded of that horrible argument two gave is so stupid




also


roleclaim : restless spirit



go ahead waste a lynch
Wojjan
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Wojjan
who is your little magical girl
Two_old
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Two_old
I lol'd
Chris_old
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Chris_old
doesn't restless spirit mean you can vote after you die

pretty sure that's not going to effect anything then
Salvage
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Salvage
yes, i survive the lynch/nk and can do 1 post per day and vote anytime i want


im soga no tonijo
Salvage
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Salvage
tojiko*
Chris_old
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Chris_old
I wonder if this game has daychat for mafia

also then there is no harm in testing it

everyone lynch salvage
Wojjan
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Wojjan
Soga no Tojiko for those who care
Wojjan
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Wojjan
also salvage if you are a vanilla townie beyond that we aren't losing much in lynching you anyway
Rantai
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Rantai
Good god overreactions anyone?

You know only 1 person followed Two and it was Chris (surprise surprise). Honestly I cannot follow this spat with any amount of reasoning.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
except for a wasted lynch I guess
Chris_old
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Chris_old

Rantai wrote:

Good god overreactions anyone?

You know only 1 person followed Two and it was Chris (surprise surprise). Honestly I cannot follow this spat with any amount of reasoning.
he can still play after he's lynched so there is no point in not voting to confirm a town

gogogo
Wojjan
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Wojjan
yeah that's another thing having a confirmed town around would be cool.
Vote: salvage
and having that confirmed town be good at mafia is even better
Chris_old
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Chris_old
also I follow logic

coincidentally that is always found in two's posts
Salvage
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Salvage
yes, except for a wasted lynch



and its not an overreaction rantai, it was an incredible bad reasoning and the worse thing was people would go follow it, and im going to work in 15 minutes, i rather not be lynched tho cause i betted two he couldn't lynch me d1 and i dont want loosing bets :(



lets test it d2 thx
Chris_old
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Chris_old
you seem really confident he's town wojjan

can't wait to see your fake surprised post when he flips
Salvage
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Salvage
also my restless spirit only works for 2 days, i mean i actually die die after 2 days
Wojjan
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Wojjan
do you have a night action
Salvage
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Salvage
no i dont, vanilla townie restless spirit for 2 days
Two_old
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Two_old
salvage, you wouldn't survive the night anyway because I will kill you myself if you aren't lynched

well then, let's play a game

you may all vote for someone in blue, like this:

vote: Wojjan

whoever has the most blue votes is who I will kill, assuming salvage is lynched of course
Chris_old
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Chris_old
do it tomorrow and kill wojjan if salvage flips mafia
Wojjan
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Wojjan
coincidentially, I also have a oneshot vigkill.
vote: Two in green for my target please.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
vote wojjan

kill yourself mafia
Wojjan
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Wojjan
or do you not want three kills in one night that's cool too.
Salvage
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Salvage
i would survive the night
Rantai
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Rantai
Also holy 4 way ninja.

If Two's setup prediction is right then wasting any lynch is not a good way to go. I guess the only thing making me hesitant about it is if the restless spirit is deactivated via night kill. If so then I'm definitely up for his lynch to get that guarenteed town. Otherwise I don't really have a clear read on him yet.

The problem trying to sift through you 4 is that everything goes to hell in terms of perception.
Two_old
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Two_old
if you're a day vigilante you should just shoot salvage

if he's mafia we can lynch rantai for defending him
Rantai
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Rantai
Wow and another 4 way ninja.
Salvage
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Salvage
vote two
Wojjan
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Wojjan
I'm a night vigilante. oneshot. are you a permanent vig Two?
Chris_old
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Chris_old
cool we're all gonna die tonight

wojjan kills two
two kills wojjan
salvage gets lynched
I get NK'd

gogogo
Wojjan
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Wojjan
fuck yes
Two_old
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Two_old
I'm not a vigilante per-se

the reason why I know about the setup is because I'm a bulletproof serial killer who loses bulletproof and turns town after I double kill any faction type
Wojjan
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Wojjan
that sounds like an incredibly believable claim
who is your little girl
Chris_old
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Chris_old
why don't I ever get to be a serial killer
Wojjan
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Wojjan
as in no sarcasm bulletproof SK is exactly the shit Lilac would pull
Two_old
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Two_old
Parsee Mizuhashi
Wojjan
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Wojjan
but I'm doubting the turns town bit. how does that work with flavor because my role is basically exactly my girl's touhou role
Two_old
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Two_old
well, if I don't double kill a faction type and instead kill 1 of each, I win

so there's no turning town after I've won
Salvage
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Salvage
why donty we lynch the serial killer i wonder?
Wojjan
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Wojjan
oh
ohhh
alright
Salvage
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Salvage
this would be the second time two claims an anti town role and doesnt get lynched, its actually pretty funny how u guys fear him
Rantai
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Rantai
Uh Parsee, the jealousy girl?

I don't really see how that turns town after 2 kills. Then again I don't know her character too well outside she attacks you in SA.
Two_old
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Two_old
someone's desperate
Salvage
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Salvage
am i
Chris_old
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Chris_old
salvage why would you ever say anyone is scared of two

that's just like a bad reverse psychology attempt
Salvage
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Salvage
cause its true, you know he just claimed serial killer and nobody votes him



vote: Two
Wojjan
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Wojjan
well
vote: Two
fuck

I mean I was gonna just kill him but I missed the bulletproof part
Chris_old
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Chris_old
mafia is far more important than an independent
Two_old
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Two_old
that's like saying you should lynch cult because oh my god they're cult

pro tip: cult is just empowered town and should be kept alive to assist town in winning
Rantai
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Rantai

Salvage wrote:

this would be the second time two claims an anti town role and doesnt get lynched, its actually pretty funny how u guys fear him
Deja vu.

Anyway I feel conflicted above this claim. It's so simple yet I cannot fathom the reason why he would out it so early. Also no on turning town, it just doesn't fit if my reading is worth anything.

@cult - That is until they become bigger than town. Then you're screwed.
Two_old
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Two_old
no, even when cult is bigger than town you still achieve your goal of beating the mafia

not to mention the cult is comprised almost entirely of town members

you lose in name only, and even then only if you died before being assimilated
Chris_old
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Chris_old
1 claimed serial killer

or 1 mafia/confirmed town

logic pls
Salvage
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Salvage
this is hillarous



anyways im going to work people i'll see if i can post there, just lynch the claimed anti town member please and dont take everything people say as a fact, try to analyze it logically first cause everything two's saying doesnt make sense thx.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
independent doesn't equal anti town
Wojjan
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Wojjan
serial killer however does
vote two
Chris_old
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Chris_old
serial killer is independent

therefor serial killer isn't anti town

in this case it's actually anti-mafia which is why you want him gone
Rantai
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Rantai

Two wrote:

no, even when cult is bigger than town you still achieve your goal of beating the mafia

not to mention the cult is comprised almost entirely of town members

you lose in name only, and even then only if you died before being assimilated
Sounds kind of crappy really. It's like getting 100% on every assessment but failing the final exam and failing the entire course anyway (yes that's the best I could think of, sue me). Sure you did great during the duration but in the end a fail is still a fail.

"Serial killer isn't anti-town" - Wow I have been enlightened beyond my most vivid dreams.

Seriously though, let's say he is telling the truth about his win con, then he is very much anti-town as it requires town death to achieve (not to mention is very easy to achieve given some luck).
Two_old
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Two_old

Chris wrote:

in this case it's actually anti-mafia which is why you want him gone
exactly

if wojjan was truly a town vigilante, they'd be worried about being night killed

if you claim night vigilante day 1, guess who the mafia are going to target?

but wait, someone else claimed something that is effectively the same

"let's lynch him so that the target is definitely on me"

except there was never a target on wojjan to begin with because wojjan dictates where that target is
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