Oh and ignore the "the first time I've seen a role that wasn't on my given list of gifts" bit. I forgot Mara claimed Encryptor.
I gave it to Akro and those were my choices.
I gave it to Akro and those were my choices.
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...I would have assumed akro.
And I didn't have to send three options as well, but for some reason, I thought I had to (probably messed up with other mafia games and stuff).
EDIT: for extra o I had
EDIT: for extra o I had
alright. Can any one of you who gave their role to a dead guy chime in on having had to pick one or three roles?
I think we could just be on to something
mod: any comment? Did you screw up?
I think we could just be on to something
mod: any comment? Did you screw up?
come to think of it bmin why did you claim this all of a sudden
LEERY EYES
LEERY EYES
No no no it was only me. I've even said it out for you on my first post ;_;
hold on I screwed up. You wrote "I thought", I read "though"
entirely different context, don't mind me.
entirely different context, don't mind me.
Because of this post. Everyone knows it was me who I gave the role for Akro. However, the thing I found it weird is that I didn't give out Tracker at all.bmin11 wrote:
Dafydd
No
I was rather surprised Sync himself was a role cop. If Ival wasn't a role cop, I would have just voted pieguy thinking there can't be possibly another town role cop. Well, it was disapproved right away >_>...
I'm guessing you are going to explain why you asked that question...?
I figured if akro is not what you chose him to be you would be what you chose him to be maybe?
Interesting thought, but I can't see how that would be the case.
We originally thought mafia would be killing off the people they have gave it to. However, that has stopped (atleast on my point of view). I can't see there would be only 3 mafias left, so akro's death is hard for me to understand at this point.
We originally thought mafia would be killing off the people they have gave it to. However, that has stopped (atleast on my point of view). I can't see there would be only 3 mafias left, so akro's death is hard for me to understand at this point.
By the way, I think I saw Wojjan's post originally saying "I also didn't have Tracker on my list" or something like that. I could be day dreaming but arghhhh this is painful why do I feel like I'm missing out something...
It could be that Two just altered the role to balance something since there were too many rolecops?
I was thinking of that as well, but speculating town roles could only benefit mafia, so I think we should just stop at a conclusion that gift choices aren't absolute. Any other information are welcomed though.
SPOILER
there was no tracker in my list eitherRedirector (may target themselves once per game)
Vigilante (1 bullet, accuracy reduced to 50% if 2 vigilantes, 33% if 3, 25% if 4, -5% per additonal)
Bodyguard
Bus Driver (can't self-target)
Vanilla
1-shot Bulletproof (applies to vigilante kills as well)
Odd Night Commuter
1-shot targetable Encryptor (1-shot as in)
Nurse (same ability as a doctor, only 33% chance to work)
Rolecop
1-shot Paranoid Gun Owner (1-shot as in only active for the night it is triggered)
Vigilante (1 bullet, accuracy reduced to 50% if 2 vigilantes, 33% if 3, 25% if 4, -5% per additonal)
Bodyguard
Bus Driver (can't self-target)
Vanilla
1-shot Bulletproof (applies to vigilante kills as well)
Odd Night Commuter
1-shot targetable Encryptor (1-shot as in)
Nurse (same ability as a doctor, only 33% chance to work)
Rolecop
1-shot Paranoid Gun Owner (1-shot as in only active for the night it is triggered)
oh my god, I didn't have a chance to rolecop anyone >_< (And if Two didn't end it an hour early I would have been in just in time.)
Why the hell did we lynch animask? Also, I think Two said somewhere he might change a few roles for balance reasons, so I don't think that's a reason to vote anyone.
I'm not sure what to think anymore, but I think we should still lynch dkun. I'm also kind of suspicious of JInxyjem for some reason, but I don't know why. o.o
Why the hell did we lynch animask? Also, I think Two said somewhere he might change a few roles for balance reasons, so I don't think that's a reason to vote anyone.
I'm not sure what to think anymore, but I think we should still lynch dkun. I'm also kind of suspicious of JInxyjem for some reason, but I don't know why. o.o
Vote dkun
Yeah seriously guys wtf?
And if it's relevant there was no tracker on my list.
Yeah seriously guys wtf?
And if it's relevant there was no tracker on my list.
I don't think ANYONE had Tracker on their list. That's what we're getting at.
makes me think that perhaps Two gave the mafia's gifts different than what they actually chose as to balance the game?
like bmin could be mafia and the role that he thinks he gave to his target is different?
FoS: bmin
like bmin could be mafia and the role that he thinks he gave to his target is different?
FoS: bmin
just checked and there is no tracker on my list either
I think it's safe to say that I've already claimed town, Mashley. But if you want to persist with trying to get me lynched and get another townie dead, then please, go right ahead.
I would understand if pieguy voted for me, but you're just as scum Mashley.
Vote: Mashley
I would understand if pieguy voted for me, but you're just as scum Mashley.
Vote: Mashley
also, I think foulcoon has got the right ideafoulcoon wrote:
makes me think that perhaps Two gave the mafia's gifts different than what they actually chose as to balance the game?
like bmin could be mafia and the role that he thinks he gave to his target is different?
FoS: bmin
Claiming town.dkun wrote:
I think it's safe to say that I've already claimed town
CLAIMING TOWN.
Being town is already implied, why the hell would you claim otherwise?
Mod: please replace me, I have no idea what is going on with this game anymore and don't want to be a burden.
i'm sorry, are you mad?Mashley wrote:
Claiming town.dkun wrote:
I think it's safe to say that I've already claimed town
CLAIMING TOWN.
Being town is already implied, why the hell would you claim otherwise?
if you want details, then i'm an odd-night commuter
happy?
Now that I'm back...Lilac wrote:
I don't think ANYONE had Tracker on their list. That's what we're getting at.
Tracker was on the person who I replaced's list. He did not choose it to gift.
Chris's list looks exactally like mine, in the same order. Except, I had tracker instead of Paranoid.
I doubt that two altered a role that someone chose purposefully. That would mess with the balance and setup, and mess with the players.
...I see the problem here.
Daffydd was replaced by LS, not akro.
Daffydd was replaced by LS, not akro.
NOOOOOOOOOOOWojjan wrote:
Mod: please replace me, I have no idea what is going on with this game anymore and don't want to be a burden.
DON'T GO WOJJAN. T__T
No I'm not mad. Why would someone claim town? It's already implied that you are town, to state otherwise would be unhelpful no matter what your alignment. All roles in this game can be had by either town or scum, therefore all roleclaims are meaningless unless you have something helpful to back them up with.dkun wrote:
i'm sorry, are you mad?Mashley wrote:
Claiming town.
CLAIMING TOWN.
Being town is already implied, why the hell would you claim otherwise?
if you want details, then i'm an odd-night commuter
happy?
also woj </3
Also, I'm pretty sure with every list, the bottom most role is a unique one. My bottom one had Deputy (Basically a cop with 33% chance.)
i'm retaliating towards your vote
I don't get why you're up on my ass so much, why don't you check yourself before you wreck yourself
you seem more and more scum with every post
I don't get why you're up on my ass so much, why don't you check yourself before you wreck yourself
you seem more and more scum with every post
Can't be that specific, since Tracker is on my list, and is my bottommost role. Someone else had tracker obviously, as akro was one.Lilac wrote:
Also, I'm pretty sure with every list, the bottom most role is a unique one. My bottom one had Deputy (Basically a cop with 33% chance.)
noo Wojjan ;;
I have no idea what's going on either and I'm not dropping out.
I have no idea what's going on either and I'm not dropping out.
my bottom role is watcher and thats the role i gave, no more information.
now that i think of watcher its kind of useless anyways and its not helping anything
if you guys have no idea do you want to hear me yet or we're still not doing it
now that i think of watcher its kind of useless anyways and its not helping anything
if you guys have no idea do you want to hear me yet or we're still not doing it
idea pls sirSalvage wrote:
my bottom role is watcher and thats the role i gave, no more information.
now that i think of watcher its kind of useless anyways and its not helping anything
if you guys have no idea do you want to hear me yet or we're still not doing it
i'd rather hear you rather than mashley's scummy ranting
Yes, by all means state your idea/opinion, Salvage...
...Meanwhile, JInxyjem actually posts something!
...Meanwhile, JInxyjem actually posts something!
dkun you're omgusing like hell, and 'claiming town' does not help you. Either you really don't understand the game or you're desperately clutching at straws. Or both. But I'll assume you do understand the game which makes all your responses so very scummy.
And now you're trying to belittle me, in some ridiculous attempt to protect yourself by making my arguments seem less valid. Also very very scummy.dkun wrote:
i'd rather hear you rather than mashley's scummy ranting
I really don't understand the game? that's a low blow asswipe. why would it seem like i'm desperately clutching at straws when you're the one instigating me?Mashley wrote:
dkun you're omgusing like hell, and 'claiming town' does not help you. Either you really don't understand the game or you're desperately clutching at straws. Or both. But I'll assume you do understand the game which makes all your responses so very scummy.And now you're trying to belittle me, in some ridiculous attempt to protect yourself by making my arguments seem less valid. Also very very scummy.dkun wrote:
i'd rather hear you rather than mashley's scummy ranting
protect myself? maybe you're just looking for someone town to scapegoat
If you understand the game why would you claim town?dkun wrote:
I really don't understand the game? that's a low blow asswipe. why would it seem like i'm desperately clutching at straws when you're the one instigating me?
protect myself? maybe you're just looking for someone town to scapegoat
Oh and once again stop taking things personally. It's a game, get over it.
as I said again, because i'm defending myself from your useless instigationsMashley wrote:
If you understand the game why would you claim town?dkun wrote:
I really don't understand the game? that's a low blow asswipe. why would it seem like i'm desperately clutching at straws when you're the one instigating me?
protect myself? maybe you're just looking for someone town to scapegoat
Oh and once again stop taking things personally. It's a game, get over it.
I like to create emphasis. also perhaps you don't understand how vulgar and blunt I am as an individual.
it's the internet, get over it.
I'm pretty sure he understands that... He just likes to not treat it like a game sometimes though!Mashley wrote:
It's a game, get over it.
Now, JInx will post!
you'll allways rather hear me cause im the best player in the entire world
people possible mafia in my eyes: dkun, Mashley, Mara and foulcoon
i think mashley its just being bad but the other 3 players are painfully scummy.
from my point of view bmin and wojjan are confirmed town, lilac and chris are neutral and i dont know about the rest since they're lurking way too much
we could go lynch lurkers with a higher possibility of hitting mafia or lynch the best mafia targets
people possible mafia in my eyes: dkun, Mashley, Mara and foulcoon
i think mashley its just being bad but the other 3 players are painfully scummy.
from my point of view bmin and wojjan are confirmed town, lilac and chris are neutral and i dont know about the rest since they're lurking way too much
we could go lynch lurkers with a higher possibility of hitting mafia or lynch the best mafia targets
or we could let the lurkers post or die, thats way better imo.
either way they're going against they're alignment if they don't post, and gathering information from every point of view will lower our chances of misslynch (that are already really low)
either way they're going against they're alignment if they don't post, and gathering information from every point of view will lower our chances of misslynch (that are already really low)
Well, we did lynch animask. Lurker somewhat, no?
yes
i dont see your point
also im going to sleep for an hour or two im tired as fuck, back a bit later
i dont see your point
also im going to sleep for an hour or two im tired as fuck, back a bit later
yeah, but I think salvage's point is that we don't really have anything else to go on. (on a safe route, that is)
dkun and Mash, I don't know anymore. One's def maf but I'm not sure who Mara's lost case, even if he comes back he'll just post more crap. I've already said I don't think foul's that scummy to me as of yet.
I'm not sure it's really useless, but at the same time I don't know if it's really worth revealing the watcher to learn his results.Salvage wrote:
my bottom role is watcher and thats the role i gave, no more information.
now that i think of watcher its kind of useless anyways and its not helping anything
At the same time, we started with 18 players, we have 12 now.
If I were host, I'dve given at least 5 mafia. That makes today or tomorrow LyLo. Information may be the most important thing right now.
Again, assuming I were host.LadySuburu wrote:
That makes today or tomorrow LyLo.
So, thoughts?
Do we hold back and wait another night, or should we reveal what information we know now, since we have hit 0 mafia in any lynches?
it's hard to imagine there being 5 mafia and not hit one yet
I'm thinking 4 but two's last game did have only 3 mafia
that would explain why only town are dying
I'm thinking 4 but two's last game did have only 3 mafia
that would explain why only town are dying
16/3, Yeah, assuming that sort of ratio 4 might actually be closer.Chris wrote:
I'm thinking 4 but two's last game did have only 3 mafia
Of course, power roles are really random in this game, so who knows?
Might be better to hold of then, though.
Meaning distribution within alignments. Hard to balance without altering the number after roles are chosen.LadySuburu wrote:
Of course, power roles are really random in this game, so who knows?
You know, when LunaticMara was mafia in VG mafia I don't recall him posting so much shit. For that reason, I think he's more likely to be town, though he isn't really helping.
Aside from that, I'm not really too sure about anything.
Aside from that, I'm not really too sure about anything.
I think his video was his attempt at helping Town though...
...A hilarious way at doing it.
...A hilarious way at doing it.
Yeah Mara I think just got a crappy role. Though of course we shouldn't eliminate him, he could be mafia.
Wojjan said foulcoons role was important and wanted him lynched before they quit
foulcoon said their role wasn't
nothing more to go on
vote: foulcoon
foulcoon said their role wasn't
nothing more to go on
vote: foulcoon
And then dead game
Lilac - 1 (Wojjan)
dkun - 1 (Mash)
Mashley - 1 (dkun)
foulcoom -1 (Chris)
Lilac - 1 (Wojjan)
dkun - 1 (Mash)
Mashley - 1 (dkun)
foulcoom -1 (Chris)
Wojjan's vote on Lilac... I assume that's because of his vote on animask D3, but why Lilac over anyone else?
thread music for you guys
Thanks for your charming input Mara.
alright since it's been a day and for some reason two is a jerk and doesn't let me quit or something for better or worse I am still around
vote: foulcoon
can we finally fucking get this lynch over with I told you to mynch him a day ago and then you let maf rerail you into animask
hence my previous vote on lilac btw
vote: foulcoon
can we finally fucking get this lynch over with I told you to mynch him a day ago and then you let maf rerail you into animask
hence my previous vote on lilac btw
foulcoon and lilac are scum
tied between Chris or Mashley for the third but maybe they're both town if any cop wants to check them OH WAIT we don't have a cop because you lynched them all
gg
tied between Chris or Mashley for the third but maybe they're both town if any cop wants to check them OH WAIT we don't have a cop because you lynched them all
gg
well, unless someone has a better explanation to anything...
unvote
vote: foulcoon
unvote
vote: foulcoon
Right now I think the mafia is dkun, foul, Lilac and JInxy. Jinxy because his iso gives off scum vibes to me, the way he just sort of states the obvious without really discussing much or giving his opinion, but that's only really a tentative fos.
foulcoon is definitely a good lynch but imo dkun is scummier so my vote isn't moving.
foulcoon is definitely a good lynch but imo dkun is scummier so my vote isn't moving.
we're gonna lynch foulcoon today mashley dont make it harder.
I don't intend to
such an innesesary way of trying to be rebel while doing whatever you do we're gonna end lynching the same person
it's kinda sad actually.
it's kinda sad actually.
What?
vote: foulcoon
not supporting townSalvage wrote:
such an innesesary way of trying to be rebel while doing whatever you do we're gonna end lynching the same person
it's kinda sad actually.
obv mafia duh
Mashley wrote:
What?
vote foulcoon and stop the crap, not agreeing with me/wojjan wont make u look smarter
I'm voting on who I think is the most suitable lynch. That's kind of the idea.
Also I don't want to hammer foulcoon already, at least let him speak. I agree that he is likely mafia but it's a terrible idea to rush into a lynch when we are possibly at lylo.
Also I don't want to hammer foulcoon already, at least let him speak. I agree that he is likely mafia but it's a terrible idea to rush into a lynch when we are possibly at lylo.
he already spoke yesterday when he was about to get lynched
stop stalling for time because all it's gonna accomplish is someone swooping in with more bullshit and then you lynch animask again
stop stalling for time because all it's gonna accomplish is someone swooping in with more bullshit and then you lynch animask again
fair enoughWojjan wrote:
he already spoke yesterday when he was about to get lynched
vote foulcoon
Topic Starter
Vote Count
foulcoon (4): Chris, Salvage, dkun, bmin11
Lilac (1): Wojjan
dkun (1): Mashley
foulcoon (4): Chris, Salvage, dkun, bmin11
Lilac (1): Wojjan
dkun (1): Mashley
what a jerk u are two
unvote before voting another one guys.
unvote before voting another one guys.
Don't be a dick 2 
Unvote Vote foulcoon
Unvote Vote foulcoon
unvote, vote foulcoon
Topic Starter
Vote Count
foulcoon (6): Chris, Salvage, dkun, bmin11, Mashley, pieguy1372
Lilac (1): Wojjan
foulcoon (6): Chris, Salvage, dkun, bmin11, Mashley, pieguy1372
Lilac (1): Wojjan
Wow okay fine.
Roleclaim: Bodyguard
that is all. you're lynching the wrong person.
Roleclaim: Bodyguard
that is all. you're lynching the wrong person.
Anyone who sent foulcoon's gift?
bmin11 wrote:
Anyone who sent foulcoon's gift?
Wojjan wrote:
please explainfoulcoon wrote:
okay now i really think dkun is mafia too.
also you do have an important role, I gave you yours.
zzzz
fuck this
vote: foulcoon
vote: foulcoon
Topic Starter
Vote Count
foulcoon (7): Chris, Salvage, dkun, bmin11, Mashley, pieguy1372, LunaticMara
Lilac (1): Wojjan
foulcoon - Employee (Town) - Bodyguard has been lynched.
You have 24 hours until Day 5.
foulcoon (7): Chris, Salvage, dkun, bmin11, Mashley, pieguy1372, LunaticMara
Lilac (1): Wojjan
foulcoon - Employee (Town) - Bodyguard has been lynched.
You have 24 hours until Day 5.
bad town is bad, go mafia
Topic Starter
hi everyone
LadySuburu - Employee (Town) - Role Cop has been killed.
It's now Day 5. You have 72 hours until Night 5. It takes 6 votes to lynch.
LadySuburu - Employee (Town) - Role Cop has been killed.
It's now Day 5. You have 72 hours until Night 5. It takes 6 votes to lynch.