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Rantai
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Rantai
Ok so that's basically everyone now.

Everyone can transfer as far as I can tell. I was thinking if everyone transfers tonight (except the analyser) we may be able to detect who the mafia is in the best case scenario. Doctor should still be able to protect.

How that works is the mafia only have 3 charges, presumably one will be to night kill. This leaves 2 to either role cop or sap. However if they do either then they aren't transferring and may be caught by the analysis bot. If they do choose to transfer then, at the very least, they cannot use their secondary roles.

Actually, Mod: does the sap count as a detectable transfer?

Something I was pondering just now, something to work on maybe?
DeathxShinigami
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Joined November 2008
DeathxShinigami
Yeah so... 2/3 of the players is basically everyone. I see what you did there Rantai.
Rantai
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Joined July 2010
Rantai
Majority, yeah?

Besides they can read a post that's not going anywhere.

Also: KRZY, I like your taste.
Dusty
870 posts
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Dusty
The mafia have shared charges, so we could also use that to trick them into lying.

First, we could all claim the number of charges we have, and then claim who we targeted for charge transfer. If someone targeted one of the mafia, they would gain a charge, but wouldn't know who got that charge, so there's a 50/50 chance that they'll make a mistake (Since they'd have to lie at first about each having 2 charges, one of them would have to claim 3 charges while the other claims 2).

But, one problem is that the rechargebot has no defined charges, and I don't know how to get around that we might lynch the rechargebot instead... so this plan needs some more work.
dkun
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dkun

Rantai wrote:

Also: KRZY, I like your taste.
/agree

@mod: So wait, then what does the recharger show in the morning for a charge count?

Vote: DxS
"Fluff" yourself, brah~
Sync
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Sync

Lilac wrote:

Moe avatar contest, go.
If this is the case, you win

Vote: DxS
Dusty
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Joined June 2009
Dusty
Unvote

:(
dkun
osu! Alumni
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dkun

Sync wrote:

Lilac wrote:

Moe avatar contest, go.
If this is the case, you win

Vote: DxS
p. sure dusty wins moe avatar contest
js
Sync
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Sync

dkun wrote:

Sync wrote:

If this is the case, you win

Vote: DxS
p. sure dusty wins moe avatar contest
js
Backfire
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Joined February 2010
Backfire
How many to hammer again?
Backfire
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Joined February 2010
Backfire
wait what the fuck, ignore me.
Backfire
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Joined February 2010
Backfire
Ohhh my god I am so fucking dumb, nevermind, please answer my question >>

Also Unvote
Sync
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Sync
wat
dkun
osu! Alumni
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dkun
9 players/50% hammer (?)
math
???
profit
Backfire
3,208 posts
Joined February 2010
Backfire
Sorry for posting like 700 times in a row, I seem to have chronic short term memory loss sporadically now.

Vote: DxS
DeathxShinigami
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Joined November 2008
DeathxShinigami
I'm humored to see already half of the other players voting for me.

Already noting that Sync and dkun could be buddying together which is why they would vote for me at the same time.

As for backfire?

Well, you know.

Unvote
Backfire
3,208 posts
Joined February 2010
Backfire
Bakfier u suk @ dis game
Yeah dude I got this for you dxs.
Jinxy
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Joined February 2009
Topic Starter
Jinxy
Alright, for Rantai's question, sapping falls under transferral for the Analyzer.

For dkun's question, I will simply give you the number of charge in all your QTs each beginning of day.

And it's 5 to lynch.


Also, charge transferral (sapping, recharging, donating) comes before other actions.
Jinxy
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Topic Starter
Jinxy
VOTECOUNT


Rantai – 0
Lilac – 1 (Rantai)
Backfire – 1 (KRZY)
KRZY – 0
DeathxShinigami – 4 (Dusty, dkun, Sync, Backfire)
No Lynch – 1 (Newbie)

Not voting - 2 (Lilac, DeathxShinigami)

Day ends in around 56 hours.
Dusty
870 posts
Joined June 2009
Dusty
I unvoted already, but Unvote: DeathxShinigami.
Rantai
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Joined July 2010
Rantai
Ahh damn it. Going to have to rethink that, they could easily just sap and transfer....
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
Unvote
Oswald
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Joined July 2010
Oswald
I was thinking of lynching someone...
But if turns out to be the recharger :(
Idk if that's good or bad

Anyways the deadline's on dec gmt+8?
Jinxy
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Topic Starter
Jinxy
It's easier to count using hours. Go to my Start of Day 1 Post, and time's up when it says "72 hours/3 days ago".
Sync
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Sync

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I'm humored to see already half of the other players voting for me.

Already noting that Sync and dkun could be buddying together which is why they would vote for me at the same time.

As for backfire?

Well, you know.

Unvote
Wow, as if somebody would be stupid enough to make it that obvious...

The first to point the blame is suspicious as fuck. Just saying
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
Like you've ever had anything positive to say about the game in general either Sync.

Nice try.
Sync
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Sync
Let's just end this now before it gets out of hand, ok?

Unvote
Backfire
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Backfire
Uhhh...Well anyways, how was everyones day? c:
Dusty
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Dusty
There have to be more things for the analyzer to do than just finding out who the sapper is, right?...

Mod: Can mafia transfer to their partner? Does the analyzer find out who their target's target was? Does the analyzer only learn about their target's actions, or also if people targeted their target?
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
Still trying to fully understand how this game works

difficult setup :S
Jinxy
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Topic Starter
Jinxy
The analyzer is a specified follower that receives two types of results, charge transferral and non-charge transferral. I won't tell you what goes under what, but it is possible for the analyzer to find other roles if they know how to infer from the results. And followers do not know who the target targeted, just what their actions were.

And yeah Mafia can self-transfer.
Backfire
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Backfire
I have no idea what any of that means.
Jinxy
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Jinxy
analyzer = follower with less specific results
Lilac
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Lilac
Follower already has very little specific results...

...Goddamn.
Rantai
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Rantai
Ohh.

So it can detect more than just charge transferal if I read right....

So it might be in our best interest for everyone to do nothing. Analyser does his thing on someone at random if a charge was transferred then the person is a mafia if a non-charge transfer was detected then the person is mafia and if nothing is detected then they are town.

Sure the mafia could do nothing too but that would mean no night kill/cop/sap.

I'm kind of dry to be honest, there doesn't seem to be a great way to use our roles.
Jinxy
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Jinxy
VOTECOUNT

Lilac – 1 (Rantai)
DeathxShinigami – 2 (dkun, Backfire)
No Lynch – 1 (Newbie)

Not voting - 2 (Lilac, DeathxShinigami, KRZY, Sync, Dusty)

Day ends in around 23 hours.
Rantai
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Rantai
Oh Unvote
Jinxy
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Topic Starter
Jinxy
:/
Oswald
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Oswald
hmmm...
Vote: DxS
Backfire
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Joined February 2010
Backfire
Are you suggesting we should No Lynch?
Cause I could see how that could help. There's nothing really to go off of right now.
Rantai
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Rantai
More - no one do a charge at all. Let the mafia be the only active people. But that means the doctor doesn't do anything which can be a problem...
dkun
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dkun

Backfire wrote:

Are you suggesting we should No Lynch?
Cause I could see how that could help. There's nothing really to go off of right now.
no lynch is the worst possible option in any game.
it just gives another kill to mafia.

but then again, that's a double edged sword if you target lynch wrong.

-Newbie- wrote:

hmmm...
Vote: DxS
nice reasoning, way to bandwagon
unvote
Vote: -Newbie-
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY

-Newbie- wrote:

hmmm...
Vote: DxS
Yeah this is very random.

Explain?
Backfire
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Backfire
No Lynch isn't always bad on day 1.
It then generates more discussion on day 2 and we learn some things about the mafia. Plus we don't risk the chance of mislynch.
But a No lynch on like day 3/4 would be horrible.
Rantai
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Rantai
Unless you're at 3-1 ly-lo.

Also yes newbie, why a nolynch vote then a DxS vote without any reasoning at all?
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
The fact is, deadline is about to come up...

...So what's it going to be? No lynch or a Newbie or DxS lynch?
Backfire
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Backfire
Gut says DxS.
Newbie might be just that.
a New player.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
I would still like to hear some sort of explanation.

Best way to do that: vote: -Newbie-
Lilac
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Lilac
Dusty's a new player too...

...What's your point, Backfire?
Backfire
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Backfire
Well you didn't say anything about him, silly.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
I just did before your previous post.

What do you think of Dusty?
Rantai
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Rantai
Vote: -Newbie-

Deadline coming up and still no answer. Can't wait too much longer.
Backfire
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Backfire
Dusty hasn't done anything else that Newbie hasn't.
Either are fine IMO but oh well.
Dusty
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Dusty

Backfire wrote:

Dusty hasn't done anything else that Newbie hasn't.
Either are fine IMO but oh well.
So, you're saying that you would be fine seeing either me or -Newbie- lynched? What do you mean by "Either are fine"?
Backfire
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Backfire
I meant as in, fine like, I have no suspicions of you. c:
Dusty
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Dusty

Backfire wrote:

I meant as in, fine like, I have no suspicions of you. c:
ah, ok then.

(Would it be scummy to say "That's good."? >_>)
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
I'm pretty sure what Backfire needs cleared up is that everyone basically had higher expectations for Dusty as a Mafia player.

I -may- be still up when newbie returns which will be in about 3-4 hours but no promises.

Otherwise at this rate it's looking pretty slim he'll get out of being lynched today.
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
Oh yeah Light prod: Sync

Doesn't really matter since there's not much to contribute (besides roleclaiming) on Day 1
Dusty
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Dusty

Backfire wrote:

I meant as in, fine like, I have no suspicions of you. c:
actually. Why do you have no suspicions of me? Personally, I think all y'all are mafia right now and could come up with reasons to vote any of you.

But especially you, since you said you'd be OK with a no lynch to get more information or whatever, even though the mafia have basically sap-fueled unlimited-charge rolecop and what amounts to a permanent roleblock (barring the recharger getting lucky). And there was also the part where you voted DxS and seem to be pretty open to jumping on wagons, although you haven't actually voted for Newbie. You also seem to post a lot, but most of them are useless posts.

So yeah, this isn't proof or anything, but my gut points to you. Vote: Backfire.

Although I wouldn't mind seeing DxS lynched, too, just to make my butthurt feel better. ( :( )

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I'm pretty sure what Backfire needs cleared up is that everyone basically had higher expectations for Dusty as a Mafia player.
like what. Just saying that makes me feel worse than if you'd tell me what those expectations are or how I don't meet them.
Dusty
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Dusty
edit: I wrote that while really irritated, so for all I know, my entire last post was stupid. Please tell me if it is.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
Don't worry, we all get irritated a lot. Especially from laughing clowns.

Anyway, my initial reaction to you, Dusty, joining, was that I didn't see you as the Mafia playing type. Also remember that "y'all" aren't Mafia. There's only 2 of them if you haven't noticed.

My thinking for the two is Newbie and DxS or Backfire. Then again, Sync hardly not saying anything doesn't really help him.
Oswald
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Oswald
The reason I chose DxS: 1/3 is the mafia, so there's 33% that we'll vote for a mafia.. And I also think it's him, that's all
Dusty
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Dusty

Lilac wrote:

Anyway, my initial reaction to you, Dusty, joining, was that I didn't see you as the Mafia playing type. Also remember that "y'all" aren't Mafia. There's only 2 of them if you haven't noticed.
Yeah, there are only 2 mafia. What I meant more was that y'all are like Schrodinger's townie, both mafia and town at the same time.

ah well, before night comes, is there a consensus on whether we should transfer at night or not? I still think it might be a good idea, because there should be something better than Rantai's plan, even if we don't know what it is...
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami

-Newbie- wrote:

The reason I chose DxS: 1/3 is the mafia, so there's 33% that we'll vote for a mafia.. And I also think it's him, that's all
But there's only 2 mafia in a group of 9?

I'm sorry that you're not any good with math and unfortunately it seems it's too late since you basically soft claimed you're town alignment.
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
Before I go to bed.

I'd just like to say I'm deeply disappointed in whatever backfire's up to. His clever way of hiding his intentions in posts and trying to shift attention away from him onto other players is quite obvious therefore I shall lock my vote on you.

Vote: Backfire

Everyone's making the wrong move on voting against Newbie by the way.
Lilac
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Lilac
Vote: Sync.

Fairly obvious.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
Actually, 3 hours left. No point...

Unvote. Let me think for a moment.
dkun
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dkun

Lilac wrote:

Vote: Sync.

Fairly obvious.
when there's nothing to contribute, that's a fair reason to vote?
that's just as shoddy as newbie's excuse
dkun
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dkun
plus

unvote
vote: DxS

backfire seems just as equally scum as you, but i'll take my chances
you're quite clever in drawing attention away from yourself as well, good sir
dkun
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dkun
mod: votecount pls
Lilac
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Lilac
DxS (3) - Newbie, dkun, Backfire
Backfire (2) - DxS, Dusty
Newbie (2) - KRZY, Rantai

Not Voting, everyone else. Takes 5 to lynch if I remember.
Lilac
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Lilac
I personally think the one's on who have been voted so far are potential mafia so if DxS turns town, then Backfire has to be mafia with Newbie. Unless something odd happens.

Vote: DxS.
Jinxy
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Jinxy
VOTECOUNT

DeathxShinigami – 4 (Newbie, dkun, Backfire, Lilac)
Newbie – 2 (KRZY, Rantai)
Backfire – 2 (Dusty, DeathxShinigami)

Not voting - 1 (Sync)


DeathxShinigami is on L-1.
Day ends in around 2 and a half hours.
Oswald
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Oswald
Sometimes it's for the team if u kill/expose yourself
Rantai
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Rantai
I hope for our sake DxS isn't town.

At least, I don't think he is atm.
Oswald
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Oswald
That's what I thought :)
Sync
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Sync
Vote: DxS

Why I haven't been contributing much: What the hell is there to contribute? also, what is light prodding since DxS didn't answer me before :(
Lilac
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Lilac
Prodding is for the mod to PM you telling you to post in thread.

Even though there's nothing to contribute (which is total bullshit) you still need to post in thread.
Rantai
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Rantai
And there's the hammer.
Rantai
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Rantai
Anyone got any last minute ideas for night actions?

Edit: I think the doctor should still protect regardless.
Jinxy
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Jinxy
Hammertime

Will post in a few minutes

You can still talk.
Lilac
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Lilac
Doc protects town.

Not sure if people can be overcharged but if they can, then recharger anyone he thinks he needs to.

Action Analysis bot analysis Backfire or Newbie.
Lilac
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Lilac
I wish I could be more specific but...

...there's nothing much to go on.
Rantai
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Rantai
Mm so in the end we're just going to have to sift through wifom.
Sync
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Sync

Lilac wrote:

Prodding is for the mod to PM you telling you to post in thread.

Even though there's nothing to contribute (which is total bullshit) you still need to post in thread.
I guess from now on when I have nothing to contribute, I will post "Hi, I have nothing to contribute" if that will keep people happy. soz, this is my first mafia game
Sync
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Sync
OT: Lily, post pics of your wide eyes plz
Oswald
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Oswald

Lilac wrote:

I wish I could be more specific but...

...there's nothing much to go on.

You'll probably find out more on the 2nd day
Lilac
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Lilac
brb, checking my phone to see if there are any pictures.

Probably aren't any though.
Sync
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Sync
Take one then :<
Lilac
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Lilac
I'll put it on my first post on D2.

Can't really take one right now.
Jinxy
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Jinxy
The robots discussed with each other for the first day, and as the discussion grew heated, people started suspecting a certain someone of being corrupted.
This robot speaks of Death and Death Gods often, despite them being human concepts mostly. He has always been weird, but when one of you could turn on everyone at any time, being weird doesn't help.

Five of you ganged up on him, and pushed him down the incinerator, but not before ripping his chip out of his head and taking it to a working scanner.

*Scanning... chip successfully scanned. Results:*
DeathxShinigami - Worker Robot - Vanilla Townie - Lynched Day 1 [2 Charges as of death]

Seeing the mistake, one of you quickly run to the incinerator, but it was too late.

On the bright side, some power is getting back on... Just at the wrong places.

All of you decide to go and have some rest, perhaps things will be clearer tomorrow.

=================================================================================

It is now Night 1. Day 2 will begin in 24 hours.
All actions must be sent in through the specified quicktopics. BTW, I don't accept night actions sent in during the day. You know who you are. >_>
Last edited by Jinxy , edited 1 time in total.
Sync
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Sync
ugh
Jinxy
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Jinxy

Lilac wrote:

Not sure if people can be overcharged but if they can, then recharger anyone he thinks he needs to.
I just noticed this post. To clarify for everyone, there is no limit as to how many charges you have at once. Appended into the information.
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
Brilliant.
Sync
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Sync
This is a boring night.
Lilac
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Lilac
You're not suppose to talk at night.

Silence, fool.
Oswald
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Oswald
Goes to sleep mode ;)
Jinxy
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Jinxy
That better be the last post I see for the Night.

Stop posting to say you will stop posting
Jinxy
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Jinxy
Sorry, but Night will be extended by an hour or two as I'm not at home right now.

Please don't comment about it until Day 2
Jinxy
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Jinxy
November 30, 2030.

After a rather peaceful night, everyone met up beside the scanner. Well, everyone except Rantai.
You found him near the trash compactor which had power returned during the night. What's left of him, anyway. Fortunately, his chip was not destroyed.

*Scanning... chip successfully scanned. Results:*
Rantai - Worker Robot - Vanilla Townie - Killed Night 1 [2 Charges as of death]

Funny how only the destructive devices are turning on.

=====================================================================

It is now Day 2. Day 2 will end in 72 hours.
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