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Rantai
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Rantai

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

If you take a look at my previous games, you'll understand what I mean. Especially Two's Mafia Game and Less Experimental Mafia 2. Also, guess I managed to fool more than one person. Go me, I guess.
Two's game wasn't a good example, I didn't believe you were mafia if I recall. This time I have a suspicion you might be.

I was mafia in Less Experiment 2 so no matter what you were doing I knew you weren't. Kind of bias but you haven't fooled me just yet if those were your two most scummy games.

All in all you clinging to that fact to excuse your behaviour is suspicious and not your actual behaviour (if that makes any sense).
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Animask: Yeah, I have a feeling that we have similar roles.

Rantai: Actually, this IS my actual behavior.
Rantai
1,000 posts
Joined July 2010
Rantai
Not from my perspective.

Acting suspicious and justifying it are somewhat different to me.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
To be honest, I never actually revealed it from my previous games. I wanted it kept a secret until a certain point in time, such as this game.
Rantai
1,000 posts
Joined July 2010
Rantai
Convenient I guess.
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old
so after animask dies we're gonna kill adam unless animask is mafia then swiftwolf

good to know
Chris_old
0 posts
Joined February 2008
Chris_old
I mean mashley in place of adam if animask is mafia then swiftwolf
0_o
2,155 posts
Joined December 2008
0_o
why Mashley again?
Chris_old
0 posts
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Chris_old
cause he believes animask is a doctor and ignored the fact they claimed miller
0_o
2,155 posts
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0_o
I don't think he ignored the miller claim:

Mashley wrote:

it fits his *ahem* unique character.
Pretty sure that's referring to the miller part, not the doctor part.
0_o
2,155 posts
Joined December 2008
0_o
inb4 lynch 0_o after Swift if animask and Mashley are mafia
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Actually, I think he's referring to both, but okay.

Also, millers come out guilty on a cop result, (I believe, unless they're insane/paranoid) so being a miller isn't as bad as being scum, but it's more confusing than being scum.


...If that makes any sense to you.
Chris_old
0 posts
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Chris_old
I think there are two cults in this game and no mafia
0_o
2,155 posts
Joined December 2008
0_o
If that's true then unless they are cultafia we are in for a really long game.
0_o
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0_o
Do you think that just because of something in your PM or is there something else?
Chris_old
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Chris_old

0_o wrote:

Do you think that just because of something in your PM is there something else?
cause of what LunaticMara said

The Dark Brotherhood is a organization who murders people for money.

The Black Sacrament is a thing where you put candles around and pray for an assassin to come to fulfill your murder request.
2 groups 2 cults

maybe I read too much into it though
0_o
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0_o
Oh. I dunno, it would be a little weird if the entire game was based around Skyrim.
Ivalset
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Ivalset
LS really likes skyrim and cults, so I wouldn't be that surprised.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
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Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Actually, I don't think it's ALL based around Skyrim. Remember, this is how LS sees the players from their previous mafia games.
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
I think if there is cult then it would only be one cult. Doesn't make sense to have the Black Sacrement as a cult, its more of a ceremony, right?
Mashley
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Joined September 2008
Mashley

0_o wrote:

Oh. I dunno, it would be a little weird if the entire game was based around Skyrim.
Why would you say that? Unless your role is also related to Skyrim, but I know mine certainly isn't.
And I was referring to animask's claim as a whole by the way.
Mara
4,907 posts
Joined November 2009
Mara

Chris wrote:

The Dark Brotherhood is a organization who murders people for money.

The Black Sacrament is a thing where you put candles around and pray for an assassin to come to fulfill your murder request.
2 groups 2 cults
[/quote]

The Black Sacrament is not a group, it's a ritual (yeah, thingasdsda) to ask for help from an assassin from The Dark Brotherhood.
Mara
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Mara
Oh well, that quote got fucked up, but who gives a shit.
0_o
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0_o

Mashley wrote:

0_o wrote:

Oh. I dunno, it would be a little weird if the entire game was based around Skyrim.
Why would you say that? Unless your role is also related to Skyrim, but I know mine certainly isn't.
And I was referring to animask's claim as a whole by the way.
I think you misread my post. I'm saying I don't think the game's theme revolves around Skyrim.
Mashley
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Mashley
My bad, didn't read it properly.
Anyway, I don't think Mara is part of a cult, it seems more likely to me that he is something else entirely. But whatever his role, it's clear that he is very dangerous to keep around so I suggest lynching him today. Vote LunaticMara.
Sleep Powder
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Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
Mara's role revolves around Skyrim. Why would you think the entire game?

There could be a cult, but so far I don't see any signs of there being one. There could be a mason group or something similar. Who else here besides Two would qualify for a role like that? (Unless he dies on Day 1 automatically lol)
Mara
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Joined November 2009
Mara
BY THE DIVINES!

I HAVE FOUND THE NEW CURE FOR THIS HORRIBLE DOOM!

EVERYONE SHOULD QUIT THEIR JOBS AND MEET ME AT THE CHURCH, I HAVE STUFF TO TELL YOU ABOUT!
Chris_old
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Chris_old
last person who voted for LunaticMara after he went crazy ended up dead
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Hmm.. sounds like he's unlynchable. I highly suggest you unvote, Mashley.
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
OH MY GOD VOTE LILAC
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
mara can you FUS RO STRONGLYNCH lilac please
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
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Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Any reasons why, Wojjan?
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
because two makes the most convincing point in the thread so far since "state the role you'd give people" against him and he counters by "yeah but WE'RE SICK OF YOU WOO SPRING BREAK"
Mara
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Mara
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE AMULET OF LIGHT?

SOMEONE HAS IT

THE PERSON WHO CARRIES IT NEEDS TO GET LYNCHED - THIS PERSON WHO HAS THE AMULET OF LIGHT IS ALSO A PERSON WITH AN EVIL AURA

ALSO, MY CHILD, WOJJAN, THE WORDS "FUS RO" MEANS "FORCE" AND "BALANCE".
Wojjan
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Wojjan
Mara if you can actually use force words use BAH MIR ZUL please I wanna see what it does
Chris_old
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Chris_old
so lunaticmara is a psycho who can kill until whoever has the amulet of light dies which is probably the dark brotherhood leader

so lunaticmara is essentially a compulsive vigilante lyncher with a post restriction
Wojjan
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Wojjan
oh okay that makes sense too

vote mara to see if it kills me and if not vote lilac again
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old
I already voted for him and didn't die
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
Tell me something boys and Wojjan

Generally, does Town want cults walking around in a game?
0_o
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Joined December 2008
0_o

KRZY wrote:

Tell me something boys and Wojjan

Generally, does Town want cults walking around in a game?
Unless you're recruited, no.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
Well then, we seem to agree on the idea that Mara isn't town but some sort of third party, most likely a cult. Why aren't we voting for him then?

vote: LunaticMara
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
because he killed someone who might have been mafia and hes providing some sort of comic relief at this point
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
Which means he can just as easily kill town. We don't even know if Salvage was mafia, he turned up "Mafia?" which LS would NOT have implemented if Salvage was indeed mafia imo.
Backfire
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Joined February 2010
Backfire
I think mara is hilarious in this thing.
I would be highly dissappointed if he gets lynched and we have no one making skyrim jokes in all caps anymore.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn

LunaticMara wrote:

THE PERSON WHO CARRIES IT NEEDS TO GET LYNCHED
For whatever reason this makes me think of a lyncher, even though it's obvious Mara is a dayvig of some sort o.o

IMO, it's more likely there's a Skyrim cult or something and LunaticMara is out to kill them all (which fits with "Mafia?" being the name of the cult when revealed). Either way, LunaticMara is confusing the hell out of me, so I don't know what to think >.<

Swiftwolf always ends up looking like mafia but he has good intentions, so I think he's town. I'm inclined to say that Lilac is town due to meta. As I said before, I still think bmin11 is a godfather or something, but this is just a gut feeling.
Two_old
620 posts
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Two_old
if you vote for bmin pieguy I'll vote for him too
pieguyn
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Joined May 2009
pieguyn
I'm not voting him yet because I'd prefer an animask lynch :?

adam already said animask was mafia, and given that it was one line in a whole wall of text, I'd think that LS told him to post that and it's true.
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old
why couldn't adam's ability have been subject to animask being a miller?

while I do think that animask is inherently anti town in these games, bmin seems like someone I'd give mafia to if I were ladysuburu
Mara
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Mara
WOJJAN, MY CHILD, I WONDER WHAT KIND OF POWER SHALL I GET IF I SHOUT THAT, SINCE "WRATH ALLEGIANCE VOICE" SOUNDS ODD TO ME.

OF COURSE, I AM NOT A DOVAHKIIN AS YOU MAY THINK - I AM A PRIEST LOCATED IN RIFTEN. THERE IS THIS PLACE CALLED "TEMPLE OF MARA". OF COURSE I DO NOT PRAY FOR MYSELF, BUT GODNESS OF LOVE, WHO LOVES EVERY TOWNIE IN WORLD.

YOU SHOULD GO ASK FOR A BLESS FROM MARA.
Mara
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Mara
AND LET ME FIX -

LADY MARA.
Two_old
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Two_old
how is mara a lady when it's a penis
Mara
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Mara
MY CHILD, TWO, IT DOESN'T MATTER IN RELIGION.

BUT YOU NEVER SHALL THINK THAT YOU CAN TOUCH THAT THING. GODS DON'T LIKE THAT.
Backfire
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Joined February 2010
Backfire
I think mara is a priest day vig?
Uhh.
Do those exist?
Backfire
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Backfire
Scratch that.

all knowing priest day vig.
pieguyn
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Joined May 2009
pieguyn
@Two: It could be, but I'm not even sure what adam's role is supposed to be. In other words I don't know if that was an investigation (either mafia or miller) or if that was a piece of information LS gave out, in which case I'd expect animask to be mafia and not miller.
0_o
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Joined December 2008
0_o

Backfire wrote:

I think mara is a priest day vig?
Uhh.
Do those exist?
There's no reason why it couldn't exist, pretty much any combination of regular roles (as well as made-up ones) should be up for grabs I think.

Though given the rest of his flavour text, I'm thinking he doesn't mean "priest" in the traditional sense.
Backfire
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Backfire
I mean a priest who protects only townies? Ah poop I dont know.
I have no idea whats going on anymore.
Two_old
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Two_old

0_o wrote:

There's no reason why it couldn't exist, pretty much any combination of regular roles (as well as made-up ones) should be up for grabs I think
my role is made up
bmin11
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bmin11
I'm still far from understanding Mara's role, but he certainly did helped us and he has his limits on using his ability, which I doubt an anti-town would get as an restriction.

I could not catch up with Two & Lilac case yet. I must have misread some posts. I'll get to my reading.
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old
just based on role potential alone, I'd like to lynch 0_o or bmin today

unless you all can offer me solid logic behind them not having anti town roles
MDuh
529 posts
Joined February 2011
MDuh
Mara may be possessed with a dragon soul, then forgets it after a certain # of posts

as a dragon, he is battling in the way of the dragons: using words.
Obviously he uses CAPS LOCK as a shout,

oh, idk what I'm saying, I just thought of connecting dragon battling using words
bmin11
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bmin11
I can tell you that LS isn't happy with my flavor and my ability very much. I can't provide any solid logic for it, since the flavor and the story I received from LS does not make much indications toward me.


EDIT: in other word, I would have given myself an anti-town role if I was the mod, LS just chose not to for some reason. Maybe balance issue I guess.
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0_o
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0_o

Two wrote:

just based on role potential alone, I'd like to lynch 0_o or bmin today

unless you all can offer me solid logic behind them not having anti town roles
I don't see why you would think I'd be anti-town?

-I've never been incorrectly lynched as town. Hell, I hardly ever even get serious votes against me. People generally don't see me as scummy.

-Here are all of the recent games where I've been mafia:
1) Paska (pretty much my only really good mafia game)
2) TF2 (won, but it was dead easy with the general lack in participation as well a pyro (cop) safeclaim)
3) Less Experimental (pretty much an utter failure)

Besides Paska I really don't see any reason for LS to give me an anti-town role.

Anyway, I don't think LS would give Mara an independent role that draws so much attention to himself, as that would make it really hard for him to win. Though I guess WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM etc.
Backfire
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Joined February 2010
Backfire
Ive been trying to figure out maras role and I think I might have it now.

Role name is probably Lunatic or something
Day vig, maybe priest, with one of the most ridiculous post restrictions ever.
Loses memory after day kill, picks it back up when someone votes him?
This guy is either going to make or break us, in my eyes.
He killed either a cult member or mafia, but we dont know yet if thats all he can get.
I say keep him around one more day just to see what happens. If he kills a townie then we lynch. But theres a whole possibility that im entirely wrong and mara had one day kill and is making everything else up.

So far this game has seriously been one of the most weird, surreal, and awesome things ever btw.
Top tier mafia game.
Two_old
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Two_old

0_o wrote:

-I've never been incorrectly lynched as town. Hell, I hardly ever even get serious votes against me. People generally don't see me as scummy.
that is exactly why I think you and bmin are potentially mafia

our roles are based on how we play not what we've been

for example, the reason why I'm not anti-town is because I generate discussion (there is no way for making people talk and exposing alignments to be a good trait for someone who isn't town)

with you and bmin, playing in a way as to not be suspected is exactly why you are prime candidates for mafia

animask is always lurky, often doesn't make sense, and is just obstructive in general which is why him being a miller makes sense

I actually believe what bmin said about his role, but I still believe lynching you is a good idea at this point 0_o
Chris_old
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Chris_old
you would want to lynch one of the more active people who help generate discussion like yourself why
Two_old
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Two_old
if you're talking to me you have a very warped idea of how 0_o plays
bmin11
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bmin11
Flavors are based on LS's view on people, correct? Than if LS thinks the person's behavior seems like townie, then the person's alignment is likely to be town. The motive behind person's play style shouldn't influence how LS thinks about the person, unless the person has a history of back stabbing townie a lot, which is not the case for 0_o. Of course the last bit is just my opinion on 0_o's history.





P.S. I was lynched as a (bullet-proof) townie on Two-for-One mafia
0_o
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0_o

LS wrote:

Every player's role is themselves, as I see them in the mafia games.
Yes, if someone's playstyle gives off the appearance of town then they have potential to be a successful mafia. But it's not about what players have qualities that make a good mafia, it's about how LS generally views the players in games. And the fact that I am often viewed as town, and only have an average mafia success rate, I think makes it pretty clear that I'm town.

The difference between me and bmin is that, while he also generally has a town "aura", he has a reputation of being a tricky mafia.
Mara
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Mara
IT'S TIME, MY CHILDREN

LET'S BLESS TOGETHER, SO THE EVIL WILL ESCAPE FROM OUR LAND!
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
I'm going to ask for a blessing from Lady Mara.

Calling this now!

Just in case this kills me or removes my role. Code #1a9d8e: There are no jesters in this game.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
Also Mash, you're an independent, aren't you?
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
unvote i guess

also

I humbly request your blessing, Lady Mara. Please help us to vanquish evil from our land.

that came out so much gayer than I thought
Mara
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Mara
YOU HAVE BEEN BLESSED, MY CHILD.

WITH A BLESSING OF MARA.
Mara
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Mara
AND BY CHILD I MEAN CHILDREN (LILAC, FOULCOON)
Mashley
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Mashley

Lilac wrote:

Also Mash, you're an independent, aren't you?
Nope, why?
foulcoon
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foulcoon

Mashley wrote:

Lilac wrote:

Also Mash, you're an independent, aren't you?
Nope, why?
you were just independent for like the last couple games and thats all anyone remembers, right?

jester, then before that lyncher?
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
Okay, cool.

Unvote, Vote: Mashley.
Mara
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Mara
NOW TELL ME CHILDREN, WHO SHALL I VOTE?

WHO DO YOU THINK WHO HAS THE MOST EVIL AURA?
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
idk? I kinda find KRZY suspicious at this point but I don't have a whole lot to go on.
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
also animask, but people seem to believe he could actually be a miller so, whatever
Chris_old
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Chris_old
LunaticMara use your powers to persuade your god to expose someone with an evil aura

thx
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
If his power worked like that we would have like 2 or 3 "jack of all trades" players running around, which seems rather unrealistic. Also nothing happened with that blessing so either we wait til LS sees it or it does absolutely nothing but make Mara laugh at us.
Mara
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Mara
THE GOD GAVE ME A NEW TASK AND THEREFORE I CAN'T DO ANYTHING AT THE MOMENT

BUT I ALREADY PRAYED FOR IT SO I AM WAITING FOR THE GOD TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER
Chris_old
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Chris_old
what is your task Mara? besides getting the amulet of light
Mara
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Mara
I NEED TO STEAL NOHITTER'S LITTLE SISTERS UNDERWEAR.

THAT IS MY TASK.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
is nohitter a mason or does Mara have humor
foulcoon
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foulcoon
can you steal the underwear if we lynch him?
Mara
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Mara
I AM NOT SURE IF I CAN DO THAT THEN

PLEASE DO NOT LYNCH HIM, I NEED DEM UNDERWEAR - LADY MARA NEEDS THEM ASAP
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
Now I'm kinda questioning if Mara killed Salvage or the death scene was complete flavour and current posting related...

...Regardless, I think 0_o, bmin and Mashley are Mafia because 0_o is good at it, bmin makes a great Godfather and since Mashley isn't independent, there's no way in hell he's town with that little posting.
Mara
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Mara
THOUGH I DON'T CARE WHAT DO YOU DO TO HIM AFTER I WILL FINISH MY TASK
bmin11
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bmin11
I give up on understanding Mara's role.






And I'm not a Godfather.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
LunaticMara do you have any interest in having a certain person dying
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
i dont really understand the 0_o part because from what I've seen hes been town a lot and plays pretty pro-town. I also don't think bmin would be a godfather, but he has been SK like a bajillion times so I can see him as anti-town or possible mafia.

I can kind of agree with your reasoning on Mashley. kinda.
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
that post was directed at lilac
bmin11
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bmin11
I've been SK once
foulcoon
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foulcoon
shut up
Mara
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Mara
MY CHILD, CHRIS, I DON'T. I DON'T SENSE ANY EVIL AURA AT THE MOMENT. BUT I DON'T SENSE ANY GOOD AURA EITHER.

WITH THE AMULET OF LIGHT I WILL SENSE AURAS BETTER.

ANYWAYS, I WILL VOTE FOR THE GODS, IF YOU TELL ME WHY PERSON X NEEDS TO GET OUT FROM LANDS OF MORTAL
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
I think I get it...

...I think he needs someone lynched in order to use another role of his... but still, why the Gods?
foulcoon
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foulcoon
he just worded that poorly. pretty sure hes saying he will vote for whoever we want him to as long as theres a good reason
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