More of I'm curious what your role actually is.
If it really is an investigative role, then the doc should be on you.
If it really is an investigative role, then the doc should be on you.
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A follow the cop trend.
Go figure.
Go figure.
Mara that was hilarious, 10/10 would read again. I reckon animask's claim is believable, it fits his *ahem* unique character.
From the first 27 pages, I'd say my biggest FOS is Swiftwolf Yellowtail. Just the things he posts and the way he says them seem scummy, and his roleclaim is a little too convenient.
From the first 27 pages, I'd say my biggest FOS is Swiftwolf Yellowtail. Just the things he posts and the way he says them seem scummy, and his roleclaim is a little too convenient.
I think trying to lynch swiftwolf day 1 is what is a little too convenientMashley wrote:
From the first 27 pages, I'd say my biggest FOS is Swiftwolf Yellowtail. Just the things he posts and the way he says them seem scummy, and his roleclaim is a little too convenient.
especially because of the interaction with salvage
With work to do, I'm not about to read 20+ pages when I have two other games that have a page or two of updates.Two wrote:
what I find hilarious is how KRZY can post in the other mafia thread while this is his current post history
search.php?author_id=114017&sr=posts&t=67143
just look at that
Read the thread now. Mara surely is well represented.
Also lots of roles I never heard of (channeler? librarian?), got some researching to do.
This is also my first game where it seems like a third party exists. Just putting it out there.
Swiftwolf might be fake claiming, like I said.
I don't think LS would give both of us the same role.
Unless I'm confused as to what he has, as far as I know, my role is completely random.
Did I read SY's role claim wrong? He said his was randomized. Mine said it was random too.
I don't think LS would give both of us the same role.
Unless I'm confused as to what he has, as far as I know, my role is completely random.
Did I read SY's role claim wrong? He said his was randomized. Mine said it was random too.
how does one use a role that is "completely random"
more than that, how would swiftwolf have just made that up if he didn't have the same role as you (there's always the chance you're the one fake claiming)
more than that, how would swiftwolf have just made that up if he didn't have the same role as you (there's always the chance you're the one fake claiming)
Im saying he might have gotten a role that gave him something he could fake claim.
I was told I don't have direct control over my abilities.
Meaning, different things can happen to me/I can do different things each night, I would guess.
I looked the role up on mafia wiki and it was not there in any shape or form, so i'm pretty sure LS made it up.
You have no reason to trust either of us, I know, but I can try to explain more on what I was told, and try to interpret the role.
But look at it this way, the game so far has been so fucking random and cryptic, I don't know what to think at this point.
I was told I don't have direct control over my abilities.
Meaning, different things can happen to me/I can do different things each night, I would guess.
I looked the role up on mafia wiki and it was not there in any shape or form, so i'm pretty sure LS made it up.
You have no reason to trust either of us, I know, but I can try to explain more on what I was told, and try to interpret the role.
But look at it this way, the game so far has been so fucking random and cryptic, I don't know what to think at this point.
I actually had to ask what the fuck was my role even talking about, since it was so weird and I could find nothing on it.
No offence. But I don't think Backfire has the capacity to lie as much as he would be, I believe him on this. Also seems way too premature to be counterclaiming this early in the game, a mafia would benefit very little from it (at worst a mislynch, 1:1 at 22 players)
Also;
Edit: 2 randomised roles are possible though but I have my doubts.
Also;
Also, lemme restate what I said earlier, in another way: My intentions are to screw with people's minds. Even if I'm scum, I can still screw you up in some way, shape, or form. Acting suspicious as town, however, is another thing I tend to do, and apparently, I'm getting somewhere with that, thanks to you. :3Looks like an excuse to play as scummy as wanted. Never liked that kind of stuff.
Edit: 2 randomised roles are possible though but I have my doubts.
If you take a look at my previous games, you'll understand what I mean. Especially Two's Mafia Game and Less Experimental Mafia 2. Also, guess I managed to fool more than one person. Go me, I guess.Rantai wrote:
Also, lemme restate what I said earlier, in another way: My intentions are to screw with people's minds. Even if I'm scum, I can still screw you up in some way, shape, or form. Acting suspicious as town, however, is another thing I tend to do, and apparently, I'm getting somewhere with that, thanks to you. :3Looks like an excuse to play as scummy as wanted. Never liked that kind of stuff.
Edit: 2 randomised roles are possible though but I have my doubts.I don't think Backfire is a JOAT like I am, actually. However, I'm not 100% sure if my role is randomized. All I know is that I get a random ability each night, and I don't think I get to pick the abilities.
I need to be going for now. Be back later.
SY, im not a JOAT.
JOAT is someone that has all roles, right?
My pm says I get something different every night, sometimes even day, and even why I die I have the chance of something else happening.
JOAT is someone that has all roles, right?
My pm says I get something different every night, sometimes even day, and even why I die I have the chance of something else happening.
More or less, it said that good things will happen to me while Im alive, meaning random roles, from what LS told me.
But seriously I have to go >>
See you guys later.
See you guys later.
It still seems like Backfire and Swiftwolf have somewhat identical roles...
Two's game wasn't a good example, I didn't believe you were mafia if I recall. This time I have a suspicion you might be.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
If you take a look at my previous games, you'll understand what I mean. Especially Two's Mafia Game and Less Experimental Mafia 2. Also, guess I managed to fool more than one person. Go me, I guess.
I was mafia in Less Experiment 2 so no matter what you were doing I knew you weren't. Kind of bias but you haven't fooled me just yet if those were your two most scummy games.
All in all you clinging to that fact to excuse your behaviour is suspicious and not your actual behaviour (if that makes any sense).
Animask: Yeah, I have a feeling that we have similar roles.
Rantai: Actually, this IS my actual behavior.
Rantai: Actually, this IS my actual behavior.
Not from my perspective.
Acting suspicious and justifying it are somewhat different to me.
Acting suspicious and justifying it are somewhat different to me.
To be honest, I never actually revealed it from my previous games. I wanted it kept a secret until a certain point in time, such as this game.
Convenient I guess.
so after animask dies we're gonna kill adam unless animask is mafia then swiftwolf
good to know
good to know
I mean mashley in place of adam if animask is mafia then swiftwolf
why Mashley again?
cause he believes animask is a doctor and ignored the fact they claimed miller
I don't think he ignored the miller claim:
Pretty sure that's referring to the miller part, not the doctor part.Mashley wrote:
it fits his *ahem* unique character.
inb4 lynch 0_o after Swift if animask and Mashley are mafia
Actually, I think he's referring to both, but okay.
Also, millers come out guilty on a cop result, (I believe, unless they're insane/paranoid) so being a miller isn't as bad as being scum, but it's more confusing than being scum.
...If that makes any sense to you.
Also, millers come out guilty on a cop result, (I believe, unless they're insane/paranoid) so being a miller isn't as bad as being scum, but it's more confusing than being scum.
...If that makes any sense to you.
I think there are two cults in this game and no mafia
If that's true then unless they are cultafia we are in for a really long game.
Do you think that just because of something in your PM or is there something else?
cause of what LunaticMara said0_o wrote:
Do you think that just because of something in your PM is there something else?
The Dark Brotherhood is a organization who murders people for money.2 groups 2 cults
The Black Sacrament is a thing where you put candles around and pray for an assassin to come to fulfill your murder request.
maybe I read too much into it though
Oh. I dunno, it would be a little weird if the entire game was based around Skyrim.
LS really likes skyrim and cults, so I wouldn't be that surprised.
Actually, I don't think it's ALL based around Skyrim. Remember, this is how LS sees the players from their previous mafia games.
I think if there is cult then it would only be one cult. Doesn't make sense to have the Black Sacrement as a cult, its more of a ceremony, right?
Why would you say that? Unless your role is also related to Skyrim, but I know mine certainly isn't.0_o wrote:
Oh. I dunno, it would be a little weird if the entire game was based around Skyrim.
And I was referring to animask's claim as a whole by the way.
2 groups 2 cultsChris wrote:
The Dark Brotherhood is a organization who murders people for money.
The Black Sacrament is a thing where you put candles around and pray for an assassin to come to fulfill your murder request.
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The Black Sacrament is not a group, it's a ritual (yeah, thingasdsda) to ask for help from an assassin from The Dark Brotherhood.
Oh well, that quote got fucked up, but who gives a shit.
I think you misread my post. I'm saying I don't think the game's theme revolves around Skyrim.Mashley wrote:
Why would you say that? Unless your role is also related to Skyrim, but I know mine certainly isn't.0_o wrote:
Oh. I dunno, it would be a little weird if the entire game was based around Skyrim.
And I was referring to animask's claim as a whole by the way.
My bad, didn't read it properly.
Anyway, I don't think Mara is part of a cult, it seems more likely to me that he is something else entirely. But whatever his role, it's clear that he is very dangerous to keep around so I suggest lynching him today. Vote LunaticMara.
Anyway, I don't think Mara is part of a cult, it seems more likely to me that he is something else entirely. But whatever his role, it's clear that he is very dangerous to keep around so I suggest lynching him today. Vote LunaticMara.
Mara's role revolves around Skyrim. Why would you think the entire game?
There could be a cult, but so far I don't see any signs of there being one. There could be a mason group or something similar. Who else here besides Two would qualify for a role like that? (Unless he dies on Day 1 automatically lol)
There could be a cult, but so far I don't see any signs of there being one. There could be a mason group or something similar. Who else here besides Two would qualify for a role like that? (Unless he dies on Day 1 automatically lol)
BY THE DIVINES!
I HAVE FOUND THE NEW CURE FOR THIS HORRIBLE DOOM!
EVERYONE SHOULD QUIT THEIR JOBS AND MEET ME AT THE CHURCH, I HAVE STUFF TO TELL YOU ABOUT!
I HAVE FOUND THE NEW CURE FOR THIS HORRIBLE DOOM!
EVERYONE SHOULD QUIT THEIR JOBS AND MEET ME AT THE CHURCH, I HAVE STUFF TO TELL YOU ABOUT!
last person who voted for LunaticMara after he went crazy ended up dead
Hmm.. sounds like he's unlynchable. I highly suggest you unvote, Mashley.
Any reasons why, Wojjan?
because two makes the most convincing point in the thread so far since "state the role you'd give people" against him and he counters by "yeah but WE'RE SICK OF YOU WOO SPRING BREAK"
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE AMULET OF LIGHT?
SOMEONE HAS IT
THE PERSON WHO CARRIES IT NEEDS TO GET LYNCHED - THIS PERSON WHO HAS THE AMULET OF LIGHT IS ALSO A PERSON WITH AN EVIL AURA
ALSO, MY CHILD, WOJJAN, THE WORDS "FUS RO" MEANS "FORCE" AND "BALANCE".
SOMEONE HAS IT
THE PERSON WHO CARRIES IT NEEDS TO GET LYNCHED - THIS PERSON WHO HAS THE AMULET OF LIGHT IS ALSO A PERSON WITH AN EVIL AURA
ALSO, MY CHILD, WOJJAN, THE WORDS "FUS RO" MEANS "FORCE" AND "BALANCE".
Mara if you can actually use force words use BAH MIR ZUL please I wanna see what it does
so lunaticmara is a psycho who can kill until whoever has the amulet of light dies which is probably the dark brotherhood leader
so lunaticmara is essentially a compulsive vigilante lyncher with a post restriction
so lunaticmara is essentially a compulsive vigilante lyncher with a post restriction
oh okay that makes sense too
vote mara to see if it kills me and if not vote lilac again
vote mara to see if it kills me and if not vote lilac again
Tell me something boys and Wojjan
Generally, does Town want cults walking around in a game?
Generally, does Town want cults walking around in a game?
Unless you're recruited, no.KRZY wrote:
Tell me something boys and Wojjan
Generally, does Town want cults walking around in a game?
Well then, we seem to agree on the idea that Mara isn't town but some sort of third party, most likely a cult. Why aren't we voting for him then?
vote: LunaticMara
vote: LunaticMara
because he killed someone who might have been mafia and hes providing some sort of comic relief at this point
Which means he can just as easily kill town. We don't even know if Salvage was mafia, he turned up "Mafia?" which LS would NOT have implemented if Salvage was indeed mafia imo.
I think mara is hilarious in this thing.
I would be highly dissappointed if he gets lynched and we have no one making skyrim jokes in all caps anymore.
I would be highly dissappointed if he gets lynched and we have no one making skyrim jokes in all caps anymore.
For whatever reason this makes me think of a lyncher, even though it's obvious Mara is a dayvig of some sort o.oLunaticMara wrote:
THE PERSON WHO CARRIES IT NEEDS TO GET LYNCHED
IMO, it's more likely there's a Skyrim cult or something and LunaticMara is out to kill them all (which fits with "Mafia?" being the name of the cult when revealed). Either way, LunaticMara is confusing the hell out of me, so I don't know what to think >.<
Swiftwolf always ends up looking like mafia but he has good intentions, so I think he's town. I'm inclined to say that Lilac is town due to meta. As I said before, I still think bmin11 is a godfather or something, but this is just a gut feeling.
I'm not voting him yet because I'd prefer an animask lynch 
adam already said animask was mafia, and given that it was one line in a whole wall of text, I'd think that LS told him to post that and it's true.
adam already said animask was mafia, and given that it was one line in a whole wall of text, I'd think that LS told him to post that and it's true.
why couldn't adam's ability have been subject to animask being a miller?
while I do think that animask is inherently anti town in these games, bmin seems like someone I'd give mafia to if I were ladysuburu
while I do think that animask is inherently anti town in these games, bmin seems like someone I'd give mafia to if I were ladysuburu
WOJJAN, MY CHILD, I WONDER WHAT KIND OF POWER SHALL I GET IF I SHOUT THAT, SINCE "WRATH ALLEGIANCE VOICE" SOUNDS ODD TO ME.
OF COURSE, I AM NOT A DOVAHKIIN AS YOU MAY THINK - I AM A PRIEST LOCATED IN RIFTEN. THERE IS THIS PLACE CALLED "TEMPLE OF MARA". OF COURSE I DO NOT PRAY FOR MYSELF, BUT GODNESS OF LOVE, WHO LOVES EVERY TOWNIE IN WORLD.
YOU SHOULD GO ASK FOR A BLESS FROM MARA.
OF COURSE, I AM NOT A DOVAHKIIN AS YOU MAY THINK - I AM A PRIEST LOCATED IN RIFTEN. THERE IS THIS PLACE CALLED "TEMPLE OF MARA". OF COURSE I DO NOT PRAY FOR MYSELF, BUT GODNESS OF LOVE, WHO LOVES EVERY TOWNIE IN WORLD.
YOU SHOULD GO ASK FOR A BLESS FROM MARA.
AND LET ME FIX -
LADY MARA.
LADY MARA.
MY CHILD, TWO, IT DOESN'T MATTER IN RELIGION.
BUT YOU NEVER SHALL THINK THAT YOU CAN TOUCH THAT THING. GODS DON'T LIKE THAT.
BUT YOU NEVER SHALL THINK THAT YOU CAN TOUCH THAT THING. GODS DON'T LIKE THAT.
I think mara is a priest day vig?
Uhh.
Do those exist?
Uhh.
Do those exist?
Scratch that.
all knowing priest day vig.
all knowing priest day vig.
@Two: It could be, but I'm not even sure what adam's role is supposed to be. In other words I don't know if that was an investigation (either mafia or miller) or if that was a piece of information LS gave out, in which case I'd expect animask to be mafia and not miller.
There's no reason why it couldn't exist, pretty much any combination of regular roles (as well as made-up ones) should be up for grabs I think.Backfire wrote:
I think mara is a priest day vig?
Uhh.
Do those exist?
Though given the rest of his flavour text, I'm thinking he doesn't mean "priest" in the traditional sense.
I mean a priest who protects only townies? Ah poop I dont know.
I have no idea whats going on anymore.
I have no idea whats going on anymore.
my role is made up0_o wrote:
There's no reason why it couldn't exist, pretty much any combination of regular roles (as well as made-up ones) should be up for grabs I think
I'm still far from understanding Mara's role, but he certainly did helped us and he has his limits on using his ability, which I doubt an anti-town would get as an restriction.
I could not catch up with Two & Lilac case yet. I must have misread some posts. I'll get to my reading.
I could not catch up with Two & Lilac case yet. I must have misread some posts. I'll get to my reading.
just based on role potential alone, I'd like to lynch 0_o or bmin today
unless you all can offer me solid logic behind them not having anti town roles
unless you all can offer me solid logic behind them not having anti town roles
Mara may be possessed with a dragon soul, then forgets it after a certain # of posts
as a dragon, he is battling in the way of the dragons: using words.
Obviously he uses CAPS LOCK as a shout,
oh, idk what I'm saying, I just thought of connecting dragon battling using words
as a dragon, he is battling in the way of the dragons: using words.
Obviously he uses CAPS LOCK as a shout,
oh, idk what I'm saying, I just thought of connecting dragon battling using words
I can tell you that LS isn't happy with my flavor and my ability very much. I can't provide any solid logic for it, since the flavor and the story I received from LS does not make much indications toward me.
EDIT: in other word, I would have given myself an anti-town role if I was the mod, LS just chose not to for some reason. Maybe balance issue I guess.
EDIT: in other word, I would have given myself an anti-town role if I was the mod, LS just chose not to for some reason. Maybe balance issue I guess.
I don't see why you would think I'd be anti-town?Two wrote:
just based on role potential alone, I'd like to lynch 0_o or bmin today
unless you all can offer me solid logic behind them not having anti town roles
-I've never been incorrectly lynched as town. Hell, I hardly ever even get serious votes against me. People generally don't see me as scummy.
-Here are all of the recent games where I've been mafia:
1) Paska (pretty much my only really good mafia game)
2) TF2 (won, but it was dead easy with the general lack in participation as well a pyro (cop) safeclaim)
3) Less Experimental (pretty much an utter failure)
Besides Paska I really don't see any reason for LS to give me an anti-town role.
Anyway, I don't think LS would give Mara an independent role that draws so much attention to himself, as that would make it really hard for him to win. Though I guess WIFOMWIFOMWIFOM etc.
Ive been trying to figure out maras role and I think I might have it now.
Role name is probably Lunatic or something
Day vig, maybe priest, with one of the most ridiculous post restrictions ever.
Loses memory after day kill, picks it back up when someone votes him?
This guy is either going to make or break us, in my eyes.
He killed either a cult member or mafia, but we dont know yet if thats all he can get.
I say keep him around one more day just to see what happens. If he kills a townie then we lynch. But theres a whole possibility that im entirely wrong and mara had one day kill and is making everything else up.
So far this game has seriously been one of the most weird, surreal, and awesome things ever btw.
Top tier mafia game.
Role name is probably Lunatic or something
Day vig, maybe priest, with one of the most ridiculous post restrictions ever.
Loses memory after day kill, picks it back up when someone votes him?
This guy is either going to make or break us, in my eyes.
He killed either a cult member or mafia, but we dont know yet if thats all he can get.
I say keep him around one more day just to see what happens. If he kills a townie then we lynch. But theres a whole possibility that im entirely wrong and mara had one day kill and is making everything else up.
So far this game has seriously been one of the most weird, surreal, and awesome things ever btw.
Top tier mafia game.
that is exactly why I think you and bmin are potentially mafia0_o wrote:
-I've never been incorrectly lynched as town. Hell, I hardly ever even get serious votes against me. People generally don't see me as scummy.
our roles are based on how we play not what we've been
for example, the reason why I'm not anti-town is because I generate discussion (there is no way for making people talk and exposing alignments to be a good trait for someone who isn't town)
with you and bmin, playing in a way as to not be suspected is exactly why you are prime candidates for mafia
animask is always lurky, often doesn't make sense, and is just obstructive in general which is why him being a miller makes sense
I actually believe what bmin said about his role, but I still believe lynching you is a good idea at this point 0_o
you would want to lynch one of the more active people who help generate discussion like yourself why
if you're talking to me you have a very warped idea of how 0_o plays
Flavors are based on LS's view on people, correct? Than if LS thinks the person's behavior seems like townie, then the person's alignment is likely to be town. The motive behind person's play style shouldn't influence how LS thinks about the person, unless the person has a history of back stabbing townie a lot, which is not the case for 0_o. Of course the last bit is just my opinion on 0_o's history.
P.S. I was lynched as a (bullet-proof) townie on Two-for-One mafia
P.S. I was lynched as a (bullet-proof) townie on Two-for-One mafia
Yes, if someone's playstyle gives off the appearance of town then they have potential to be a successful mafia. But it's not about what players have qualities that make a good mafia, it's about how LS generally views the players in games. And the fact that I am often viewed as town, and only have an average mafia success rate, I think makes it pretty clear that I'm town.LS wrote:
Every player's role is themselves, as I see them in the mafia games.
The difference between me and bmin is that, while he also generally has a town "aura", he has a reputation of being a tricky mafia.
IT'S TIME, MY CHILDREN
LET'S BLESS TOGETHER, SO THE EVIL WILL ESCAPE FROM OUR LAND!
LET'S BLESS TOGETHER, SO THE EVIL WILL ESCAPE FROM OUR LAND!
I'm going to ask for a blessing from Lady Mara.
Calling this now!
Just in case this kills me or removes my role. Code #1a9d8e: There are no jesters in this game.
Calling this now!
Just in case this kills me or removes my role. Code #1a9d8e: There are no jesters in this game.
Also Mash, you're an independent, aren't you?
unvote i guess
also
I humbly request your blessing, Lady Mara. Please help us to vanquish evil from our land.
that came out so much gayer than I thought
also
I humbly request your blessing, Lady Mara. Please help us to vanquish evil from our land.
that came out so much gayer than I thought
YOU HAVE BEEN BLESSED, MY CHILD.
WITH A BLESSING OF MARA.
WITH A BLESSING OF MARA.
AND BY CHILD I MEAN CHILDREN (LILAC, FOULCOON)
Nope, why?Lilac wrote:
Also Mash, you're an independent, aren't you?
you were just independent for like the last couple games and thats all anyone remembers, right?Mashley wrote:
Nope, why?Lilac wrote:
Also Mash, you're an independent, aren't you?
jester, then before that lyncher?
Okay, cool.
Unvote, Vote: Mashley.
Unvote, Vote: Mashley.
NOW TELL ME CHILDREN, WHO SHALL I VOTE?
WHO DO YOU THINK WHO HAS THE MOST EVIL AURA?
WHO DO YOU THINK WHO HAS THE MOST EVIL AURA?
idk? I kinda find KRZY suspicious at this point but I don't have a whole lot to go on.
also animask, but people seem to believe he could actually be a miller so, whatever
LunaticMara use your powers to persuade your god to expose someone with an evil aura
thx
thx
If his power worked like that we would have like 2 or 3 "jack of all trades" players running around, which seems rather unrealistic. Also nothing happened with that blessing so either we wait til LS sees it or it does absolutely nothing but make Mara laugh at us.
THE GOD GAVE ME A NEW TASK AND THEREFORE I CAN'T DO ANYTHING AT THE MOMENT
BUT I ALREADY PRAYED FOR IT SO I AM WAITING FOR THE GOD TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER
BUT I ALREADY PRAYED FOR IT SO I AM WAITING FOR THE GOD TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER