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#2 osu! World Cup (Team vs) [Korea wins]

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Flanster
Bulgarian Team's captain here.In the team info two of my teammates's links are wrong and one is spelled incorrectly

r-Beatz (not with an "s") > http://osu.ppy.sh/u/472311
Orihara Izaya > http://osu.ppy.sh/u/513842
Neruell

Dangaard wrote:

Is there a reason for both of you giving up?
Don't know about "both" but my reason is pretty simple, I don't have enough time for the owc because of studying.
maal

Neruell wrote:

Dangaard wrote:

Is there a reason for both of you giving up?
Don't know about "both" but my reason is pretty simple, I don't have enough time for the owc because of studying.
neither do i. BUT FUCK STUYDING, WOOOOO!
Waryas
But your studies are more important that a circle clicking game
GladiOol
owc game takes about 20 min. max

How in the world can't you have tim-- oh never mind...
NatsumeRin
Froslass
Nice map choice.
theowest
Sweden would like to change m4w11's place with Hanyuu-chan.
NatsumeRin
Here's a proposed schedule for the teams. We decide to start the matches from this weekend (means round 1 is from Nov.19th to Nov.26th if there's no delay), sorry for any inconvenience caused by the date change. You could choose to delay this match by a week, or just ask your opponents and find a better time to play.

In the order of time:

Group G: Taiwan vs Sweden 19th, 18:00(GMT+8)/11:00(GMT+1)

Group B: Netherlands vs Philippines 19th, 13:00(GMT+1)/20:00(GMT+8)

Group C: Poland vs Norway 19th, 14:00(GMT+1)/14:00(GMT+1)

Group C: Ukarine vs Indonesia 19th, 15:00(GMT+1)/21:00(GMT+7)

Group F: Russian Federation vs Finland 19th, 18:00(GMT+2)/20:00(GMT+4)

Group A: Denmark vs German 19th, 20:00(GMT+1)/20:00(GMT+1)

Group B: Hungary vs New Zealands 19th, 21:00(GMT+1)/9:00 (GMT+13,20th)

Group H: Austria vs Argentina 19th, 20:00(GMT+1)/16:00(GMT-3)

Group G: Bulgaria vs Brazil 19th, 22:00(GMT+2)/17:00(GMT-3)

Group H: United States vs Thailand 20th, 9:00 (GMT+7)/22:00(GMT-4,19th)

Group F: Malaysia vs Uraguay 20th, 9:00 (GMT+8)/22:00(GMT-3,19th)

Group A: Japan vs Australia 20th, 19:00(GMT+9)/21:00(GMT+11)

Group D: Vietnam vs Hong Kong 20th, 18:00(GMT+7)/19:00(GMT+8)

Group D: Republic of Korea vs Canada 20th, 21:00(GMT+9)/9:00 (GMT-3)

Group E: Portugal vs Latvia 20th, 18:00(GMT+0)/20:00(GMT+2)

Group E: Chile vs France 20th, 16:00(GMT-3)/20:00(GMT+1)

The schedule is mainly arranged according to the idea "no 2 matches at the same time", so that players could watch more matches as they want (also we have live), and again, IT'S JUST A PROPOSED SCHEDULE, You could play whenever you want in the next week once you get an agreement with your opponents.
theowest

NatsumeRin wrote:

stuff
yo, when will Sweden play?
NatsumeRin

theowest wrote:

NatsumeRin wrote:

stuff
yo, when will Sweden play?
Editted. Tired, don't blame me.
thelewa

JesusYamato wrote:

But your studies are more important that a circle clicking game
lolno
GladiOol

NatsumeRin wrote:

Hana - Aerodynamics Girls and Boys Poem [Pook]
Why did you guys pick the ugly [Pook] diff. if there is a way sexier and more fun [Insane] ?¿?¿?
thelewa
because [Pook] has more jumps and there's a higher chance of missing in it I guess.
Shiro
Could you make a pack for the maps ? T.T
Lesjuh

Odaril wrote:

Could you make a pack for the maps ? T.T

OP wrote:

Download the MAPPACK.
Shiro

Lesjuh wrote:

Odaril wrote:

Could you make a pack for the maps ? T.T

OP wrote:

Download the MAPPACK.
I suck I didn't even check the OP. =(

also mendes is the perfect map to make me fail \:D/
CXu

Odaril wrote:

also mendes is the perfect map to make me fail \:D/
Let's fail together \:D/
Vmx
oh yeah I can get 70% accuracy in madnes will be fun...
Angeloid_Alpha
the beatmap pool it's great :)
Topic Starter
fartownik
You can view a less eye-painful version of the schedule here. Used Google Docs so everything is visible and clear now.
Vmx
Awesome, thanks for changing times now its much easier for me :)
KRZY
Update the player list plz
Topic Starter
fartownik

KRZY wrote:

Update the player list plz
Will be done tommorrow (going to bed right now) + the update of all of the team sheets after clicking the flag.
rockleejkooo

NatsumeRin wrote:

Ukarine

btw, nice maplist :3 much better than at owc 1
creativ_old
We would like to delay our match to the next saturday (November 26th) if possible.
FurukawaPan
The Cup will start in the day of 21st November.
The proposed hours of the matches will be posted, but the captains of both teams might change the date after the discussion.
So why is the schedule have matches on nov 18,19,20 ??

also I am *completely* unavailable that weekend. Though I am avail from Monday on. Canada will either have to play without me or delay our match if this schedule is correct, but you are conflicting with Post #1 (as I just pointed out).
NatsumeRin
Yep the date has changed, this is due to the reason "we'd better to start a round at a weekend and end at Friday so we have more time to prepare next round". This is a sudden change made by us so you could just choose to delay your match by a week (and your opponents should agree with this)

farto may edit the OP when he's online.
Rena-chan
Why did you mix in bad maps with good maps ?
Oh well.

thelewa
OAAAH Can we still change members or is it too late already?
JonnyThatJonny
I wanna congratulate the team behind the choice of maps. Of course like everyone there are some in there which I don't like but overall it's a great maplist. Pretty sure it will be pretty unpredictable who will pick what, unlike last year which there were 2 or 3 good maps that most teams picked.
Glass
waking up at 9AM on a sunday.....

hell it's gonna be freaking 6AM for those who live on the west coast LOL
YodaSnipe
That's just... pro 7am for me >.>
YodaSnipe
Btw are we allowed to substitute captains for backups as well?
Natteke
Don't forget that you can decide between your team and your appoint to play at a different time.
maal
I honestly still find it unreasonable that Blacky was allowed to play for Germany.
lazur2012
I can't see Russian Federation's team after click on their flag :/ (this isn't important for me personally)

Glazbom
shit maps everywhere
Shiro

YodaSnipe wrote:

Btw are we allowed to substitute captains for backups as well?
The rules last year were that the 4 regular players must play if they are online at the time of the match. It will probably be the same this year ?
kriers

Odaril wrote:

YodaSnipe wrote:

Btw are we allowed to substitute captains for backups as well?
The rules last year were that the 4 regular players must play if they are online at the time of the match. It will probably be the same this year ?
I read that you could swap players as much as you would like. Think that pretty much means all 6 players can be used as we please
Wishy
Well if the 4 main players are online and they want a backup one to play one of them can just log out and say gtg there's a zombie knocking my door gotta fight him
Froslass
#owc is there but I haven't seen anyone speak on it yet :[
Metro
Yeah that rule is stupid lol. All should be able to play.

Blue Dragon wrote:

#owc is there but I haven't seen anyone speak on it yet :[
It's now moderated. I spoke there today :P.
deadbeat

YodaSnipe wrote:

Btw are we allowed to substitute captains for backups as well?

fartownik wrote:

10. The players can freely change themselves between the maps.
i'm gonna say sure
rickyboi

theowest wrote:

Sweden would like to change m4w11's place with Hanyuu-chan.
Go hanyuu! so pro :D
Froslass
Fumi-chan can't play on this OWC because of tablet problems.

Please put k3nsh1n_h1mur4 instead.
thelewa
We'd like to switch IppE602 to ethox as a backup player
FurukawaPan
I'm pretty sure your backup players can be used as bench players. A captain may freely strategize which 4 players go into the match. If there are any limitations on how your backup players can be used, they should be stated in the rules, otherwise, imo, anything is fair game.

In fact, I think

10. The players can freely change themselves between the maps.
gives us express permission to do so.
Pizzicato
Netherlands.... D:
Topic Starter
fartownik

FurukawaPan wrote:

I'm pretty sure your backup players can be used as bench players. A captain may freely strategize which 4 players go into the match. If there are any limitations on how your backup players can be used, they should be stated in the rules, otherwise, imo, anything is fair game.

In fact, I think

10. The players can freely change themselves between the maps.
gives us express permission to do so.
There are no limitations about which players (backups or 1st squad) are gonna be used in the match. You can play with (for ex.) 2 players from 1st team and 2 players from backup in the first map, but change to 4 players from first team in the next map. It's all up to you.
Metro
Fumi-chan :(.

IppE :(.
IppE

Metro wrote:

IppE :(.
I am horribly terrible at this game and I don't want to hinder our otherwise awesome team in any way.

And I know where you live.
Topic Starter
fartownik
Updated all the team sheets (after clicking the flag + the thread squads).

Also a notice - when you want to change your match date, DON'T POST THAT WISH HERE. Talk to your opponent team's captain and then post the date agreed by both of you.
shaNk_old
released maps befor tourny TROLOLO
theowest
15. Sweden
Captain: theowest
Player1: Holmir
Player2: Hanyuu-chan < m4w11 should be here. Not Hanyuu-chan since he's already back-up player 1.
Player3: Gyuunyu
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: Hanyuu-chan
Back-up Player2: Failboat

Time-Zone: GMT+1
-Lennox-
32. Austria
Captain: -Lennox-
Player1: Snowball
Player2: Hanyuu
Player3: Rukarioman <- Plz remove him from the Player list. And put him to "Back-up Player1" And nova to Player3 thx :p
---------------
Back-up Player1: novaaa
Back-up Player2: M A R I O

Time-zone: GMT+1
Kitsunemimi
Oh dear lord Canada vs Korea first round. Also, I'm pretty sure nobody in Canada team is GMT-3, somebody get that checked.
YodaSnipe
yeah I'm pretty sure almost everyone is GMT-5, but I'm not 100% sure
DennisGG
Good Luck To All !
Wishy
I'm just here to say this mapset is made out of shit maps except for a few exceptions which are still crap because they use low AR on "high" BPM maps. Want me to make a mapset for every round? Believe me I'm gonna do a good job. :s

I mean really I'm sure I can do great mapsets for every round there are so many good maps out there but you still have to pick this kind of shit. I'll give you guys a tip about how to pick maps: use the search function and insert some cool mapper name like val0108 ot NatsumeRin you gonna get a lot of good maps. Seriously most of the maps you picked would be fine with DT or HR at least but nomod lol...
NatsumeRin

Well, people have different tastes about maps (Damn i hate to say this), this is true to both the community and the staff themselves. What i'm trying to do here is just set a very lenient standard and let the staff members choose freely to make sure they can pick some maps they like (To be honest i don't like some of them myself but what). They are, as you can see, decent mappers from different styles/genres, that's basically how a map pool was made, so don't expect a pool full of maps you love, because we don't want more guys shouting "hey this is just shit."

About the difficulty level:
It's me who suggest not to pick crazy insanes in the group phase, HR or DT are for experts, but now you can't make sure all participants are not skilled "enough" players. The difficulty will increase when the elimination starts i promise.
KRZY
If you find that you have time to complain about map choices,

go on osu! and play those maps once more. I'm sure it will benefit you more than what you are doing now.
deadbeat
quick team update, I'm going back to captain and jiantz is now backup instead
Wishy
I just raged after playing all of them and damn really there are lots of good maps why pick that. I got surprised when I saw pretty much every maps is AR 8 (just one AR 9 and it's a damn hard not even insane tbh), many AR 7 which is just a joke, and well some of those maps are just lol, I almost got asleep playing that ALIVE map (same with most maps anyways, except for the "fast ones"). You really can pick better maps, you know that, you just need to think aboiut how a map plays not about how they're mapped, and honestly if you think most of those maps play good, you are really lost, because even when some of them are good (Leia for example) most are just crap, and I'm damn sure half of those maps will be picked (for playing them) by... nobody.

Saying this mapset is not as bad as the one from OWC #1 is not good enough, I told you not to make MAPPERS pick MAPS, make PLAYERS pick MAPS, then you'll get a great list, because even when mappers see something and say "wow this is mapped so good", it can still play like shit or be some average crappy map which nobody cares about. I'm not only talking my mind, chatted with several players who're participating on this and they pretty much think the same as I do. Not giving names because they don't give a fuck about complaning because they think it's useless, and I know this mapset ain't gonna change but just think about the next one, get some PLAYERS to help you pick those next maps instead of getting 4 mappers who don't really play this game (at least "anymore"). If you want me to list you 100 maps which would be GREAT for this event, I won't really mind doing you the favor, believe me even when I hate a map if I know it's good I won't call it crap, but here lol I better shut up.

@KRZY, there's no way I can do that, Metro was specting me today while I tried every map and damn I couldn't even finish them because most of them were damn boring or just shitmaps. Plus I hate practicing maps, if it was up to me I'd like to get the mapset 5 minutes before my match so nobody can really practice them at all. Drilling is gay, first play's the way to go. :p
mochi

NatsumeRin wrote:

About the difficulty level:
It's me who suggest not to pick crazy insanes in the group phase, HR or DT are for experts, but now you can't make sure all participants are not skilled "enough" players. The difficulty will increase when the elimination starts i promise.
The difficulty range in the mapset is retarded.

There's an easy difficulty called "bad apple" and there's a only a few people can pull off consistently difficulty called "mendes".

The only way I can see anyone breaking their combo in bad apple is if it's their first time playing and they screw up on that random slider velocity increase near the middle of the song.
NatsumeRin
Bad Apple is just too easy i admit that, leave this to any team think they have better acc and need a all-FC situation. We'll try to avoid such difficulty range next time.
Wishy
Arg Vs. Aus Sunday 20th 5 PM GMT -3.
-Lennox-
^ Arg Vs. Aus sunday 20Th 9PM GMT+1 (9pm is our time for austria like 21:00) am i right? D:
Neruell
Oo I thought that teams were allowed to choose 2 maps from the map pool. It's not like all players must play all maps. I guess every team can freely choose any map they like. Don't like the map, don't play it. If you don't like any maps then I guess there is someone else from the team who doesn't mind playing instead.
creativ_old
Im here to say that i have spoke to _angel and we both agreed that both teams are playing in 26th November 18:00 gmt+0
Lesjuh

Wishy22 wrote:

bark
Shut up and practice. You can decide wich maps you want to play. Don't pick the ones you dislike and give the opponent a chance with the easier ones. It's a choice: Beat the opponent by accuracy on for example bad apple or beat the opponent by combo on the harder maps.
Lybydose
Ok let's make a deal:

I will pick all the maps.

You will hate all of them more than the current map set, despite being more difficult. Deal?
YodaSnipe
Due to circumstances Soulclenz will not be able to participate in the OWC. Canada has elected FurukawaPan to represent us as Captain.
Here is the new team for Team Canada:

20. Canada
Captain: FurukawaPan
Player1: shaNk
Player2: Glass
Player3: SilentWings
---------------
Back-up Player1: YodaSnipe
Back-up Player2: Satonaka
KanaRin
Maybe you can't see the list which I posted before , so I post it again.

Here's the final list~

Country name: Hong Kong
Captain: KanaRin
Player1: Miu Matsuoka
Player2: Kirito47
Player3: henry04213
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: -[L]ightz
Back-up Player2: Pokie
Time Zone:GMT+8
Nharox
owc2 - Now with more complaints and less fun.
GladiOol

Nharox wrote:

owc2 - Now with more complaints and less fun.
Sounds like regular osu! to me /o/
KRZY
If it is possible to change lineups still, I would like to replace Dungeon with Remilia-Scarlet. Unfortunately Dungeon's PC is no longer in a state to run osu, or any programs for that matter.
Natteke

Wishy22 wrote:

I also disagree with some of the choices, however there's no need to put it the way you did.
I promise that maps in the next round will be much better.
Hika

Nharox wrote:

owc2 - Now with more complaints and less fun.
We'll see how this goes.
inb4 country dispute
Wishy

Natteke wrote:

Wishy22 wrote:

I also disagree with some of the choices, however there's no need to put it the way you did.
I promise that maps in the next round will be much better.
Nobody would even care/react at all if I said something like "Well I think you could've chosen better maps XD! Some of them are boring or too easy or just bad maps hope you do better next time. XDXD". What matters is what I'm saying you shouldn't care how.

I even got told by _someone_ that some of those maps were picked with no real argument by some of the "judges" and even when some staff members disagreed with those maps they still got picked because someone just wanted them there with no real reason at all except "I like this song" or "A friend mapped this" probably.

Plus nobody's responsable for anything, you should just design someone as the God Leader Map Picker and get 5/6 guys to "suggest" what maps to play, doing what you're doing now is idiotic, having 6 guys with pretty much the same power choosing whatever they want and being unable to revoke each other picks.
Natteke

Wishy22 wrote:

I even got told by _someone_ that some of those maps were picked with no real argument by some of the "judges" and even when some staff members disagreed with those maps they still got picked because someone just wanted them there with no real reason at all except "I like this song" or "A friend mapped this" probably.
It is true that the choices were made without organization, however the "because someone just wanted them there with no real reason at all except "I like this song" or "A friend mapped this" probably" part is stupid. I personally picked maps that I thought would fit for OWC, not just any random map, don't make false assumptions, please. As Natsume already said, this is only the first round and maps will get harder/better, don't worry.

And stop being a douchebag.
NatsumeRin
Seriously i just put myself as a common map chooser not some super power you said, i guess this is the main point and, probably, we'll still have 5 people choosing maps independently. If you don't like the map by some certain memebers in the staff, plz just hope to get better results from the others.
KRZY
What the fuck is the matter with you

What kind of a player objects to this extent to the map selections of a competition?

If you don't like the map pool, fine. Quit. Nobody is forcing you to play. No one has to go through this bullshit.
Wishy
I don't give a shit about this you know but this guys are making the same exact mistake they did last time, which is what annoys me. And I know, I'm pretty much just presenting to the match and quitting if any really crappy map comes up, you don't need to tell me that.
akupp
Hei, i got an idea, it just a suggestion only.. So no flaming here.. >.<

If you guys play dota, in the match, they have "BAN PHASE", it mean that we can ban "a hero" for both team (can not use it).

So how about implant it here? Both team give 1 or 2 ban map, then only can choose.. XD
Metro

akupp wrote:

Hei, i got an idea, it just a suggestion only.. So no flaming here.. >.<

If you guys play dota, in the match, they have "BAN PHASE", it mean that we can ban "a hero" for both team (can not use it).

So how about implant it here? Both team give 1 or 2 ban map, then only can choose.. XD
Genius idea.
dNextGen

Wishy22 wrote:

Argentina

Captain: Wishy22 Confirmed
Player1: Metro Confirmed
Player2: Ever17 Confirmed
Player3: Darksonic Confirmed
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: Salvage Confirmed
Back-up Player2: Glazbom Confirmed

Time zone: GMT-3

Team's Pet

FullFr0z

Female Cheerleaders

Mikumiku97, agussdg, KaoruEvans, ReMx, Vandalika.

Male Cheerleaders

Posse, -batt0, demodemo001, Fullback, grisuh, Hazenkain, Hernan, Jougan, lota78, Luffy, Masha-, Mategas, nhazgul, Pwnt, RockNRolla, Stille, tenchology, theProdigy violentt, Wawix, xsaturosx.
Plus:

1- I still have to talk with pretty much every team member but I'm sure we all are able to play. (Edited already)
2- Even when I haven't talked with anyone but Metro from that roster (edit: look at the ones Confirmed), I'm sure nobody from this team's gonna play if we got to play those qually again like last year. Which besides the fact that they were a disaster and many players couldn't attend, it was all about people who can't even clear insanes wasting our time (no offense). The team's gonna be the one I posted for sure and if there is anyone else from our country willing to make a team, we would gladly play against them to see which team should represent our country.
quality post
_Angel

Mikutard wrote:

Im here to say that i have spoke to _angel and we both agreed that both teams are playing in 26th November 18:00 gmt+0
Yes, we agree to play 26 of nov, 18:00 gmt+0/20:00 gmt+2
laport
my virusscanner is keeping me from downloading that mappack.. its some kind of untrusted website with bad intentions. (it asks me to run an installer when I try to download the rar file..)
plz fix url (mediafire, puush, etc)?
maay

akupp wrote:

Hei, i got an idea, it just a suggestion only.. So no flaming here.. >.<

If you guys play dota, in the match, they have "BAN PHASE", it mean that we can ban "a hero" for both team (can not use it).

So how about implant it here? Both team give 1 or 2 ban map, then only can choose.. XD

lol what a coincidence I had the same idea (I had even discussed it further with my team). I wasn't going to post it here but I was going to suggest it directly to you so we could use it in our match. Sent you a PM with the details...
Wishy
I thought the same but you can also get some team banning every good map (you can actually do that with 2 or 3 bans having mapsets like this).
KRZY
That is unnecessary imo.
Revengexsoyah
the link of the hungary flag is the same at the brasil :(
fix it
Cyclohexane
So yeah
Tournament for fun
We're all eager for it
Joy and happiness
Happy to root for your own country
In the beautiful name of sport
Fair play and stuff
DerekMcD
As you see... Andrea (osuplayer111) could had take Lunah' place as a captain of the Italy team though...
Tanzklaue

kokoroanime wrote:

As you see... Andrea (osuplayer111) could had take Lunah' place as a captain of the Italy team though...
we are in the middle of another annoying discussion, please line up like the rest do.


and you're kinda late with bitching about this.
YodaSnipe

Mr Color wrote:

So yeah
Tournament for fun
We're all eager for it
Joy and happiness
Happy to root for your own country
In the beautiful name of sport
Fair play and stuff
BRING IT ON KOREA!

*teehee*
GladiOol
Only complaint I have is that we can only have 2 substitutes \o\
Dutch people are busy people and we are most likely going to play our match with 2 people, maybeee 3 \:D/

If we would've be able to have 4 substitues we wouldn't have this problem.
Neruell

GladiOol wrote:

Only complaint I have is that we can only have 2 substitutes \o\
Dutch people are busy people and we are most likely going to play our match with 2 people, maybeee 3 \:D/

If we would've be able to have 4 substitues we wouldn't have this problem.
+1
deadbeat
quick note about the Hungary v New Zealand match, the time will be changed, but we still trying to arrange a time. I'll update when we(Kuroi Mato and I) are both in agreement
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