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chat through qt actions through pms
why is this even up for debate
you should never let people chat through pms
why is this even up for debate
you should never let people chat through pms
Okay I died in one other game so now I can /in
Chat through QTs, mafia actions through the same QT (including "personal" abilities like roleblocking etc). Actions through PMs for anyone else.
Also none of this 48 hour night bullshit.
Also none of this 48 hour night bullshit.
Same here.Lybydose wrote:
Chat through QTs, mafia actions through the same QT (including "personal" abilities like roleblocking etc). Actions through PMs for anyone else.
Also none of this 48 hour night bullshit.
Also, what do you mean about 48 hour nights
it's tooooooooooo long. I want to see what happens!NoHItter wrote:
Same here.Lybydose wrote:
Chat through QTs, mafia actions through the same QT (including "personal" abilities like roleblocking etc). Actions through PMs for anyone else.
Also none of this 48 hour night bullshit.
Also, what do you mean about 48 hour nights
alternatively: 48 hours for first couple nights, then 24 later when there are less players (and thus less possible actions that the mafia need to debate over amongst themselves)
48 hours is a fair amount of time to wait. We are all impatient little... 
agreedLybydose wrote:
Also none of this 48 hour night bullshit.
it never takes me 2 days to send in night pms
Yeah but from my experience, Mafia take longer to decide.
Assuming they have daychat QTs, they should be discussing it during the day anyway.
on one hand, 24 hours might not be enough time for some people
on the other, 48 hour nights can kill interest/discussion
I like 24 obviously but I think wojjan got burned by 24 in my game
on the other, 48 hour nights can kill interest/discussion
I like 24 obviously but I think wojjan got burned by 24 in my game
Topic Starter
I'm going for 48-hour nights, because from my mafia experience you have a lot to discuss as mafs, especially on the first night. After 24 hours, I'll send out PMs to whoever hasn't sent in their action yet to let them know. If you want the night to end faster, then send in your PM sooner, so we definitely don't have to wait for you especially. Sorry, but being a townie means having to not do stuff at night.
Alongside a QT for discussion from masons/mafia/cult/whatever, I've decided to give everyone a separate quicktopic for their own use (posting theories, asking about night action specifics, listing suspicious behavior for posterity) so if you've got nothing to do overnight you can always reread the thread and overanalyse the living shit out of the other players.
The spread for night actions seems to be quite even between QT and PM, so I'm not going to differentiate either way. You can pick the medium you're most comfortable with, and I'll dutifully check both every night to receive actions. YAY EVERYONE WINS!
Alongside a QT for discussion from masons/mafia/cult/whatever, I've decided to give everyone a separate quicktopic for their own use (posting theories, asking about night action specifics, listing suspicious behavior for posterity) so if you've got nothing to do overnight you can always reread the thread and overanalyse the living shit out of the other players.
The spread for night actions seems to be quite even between QT and PM, so I'm not going to differentiate either way. You can pick the medium you're most comfortable with, and I'll dutifully check both every night to receive actions. YAY EVERYONE WINS!
36 hour nights ftw.
so if everyone sends they're night actions the night ends? cause it's not like that in every game and i think it should.
Actually, it's SUPPOSED to end when everyone sends in their night actions. But not every mod pops up right when the last action gets sent in.
??? it's not normal to end night prematurely
you can confirm people as mafia/town that way
you can confirm people as mafia/town that way
well then not end it just when someone sends it, but shorten it for a lot if everyone sent their actiosn early.
um the point is knowing that everyone sent in their actions
whether that makes night end immediately or faster is irrelevant
whether that makes night end immediately or faster is irrelevant
i dont get your point, u shorten the night from 48 hours to let's say 15 for example if everyone sent them on 10 hours or so .. also a rule for preventing giving info on if u sent your action or not could work too idk, it's jusit that waiting 48 hours for a night it's zzz.
ok I'm going to make a really obvious example
5 players alive
night ends prematurely
2 players haven't logged on osu in the past 48 hours
those 2 players are confirmed town
5 players alive
night ends prematurely
2 players haven't logged on osu in the past 48 hours
those 2 players are confirmed town
that's also why actions should be required to be sent in through pms
Actually, that's confirming nothing. They could be VT or MG.
Townies and goons do nothing. Of course, if they were the last two mafia, that's different.
Also, this could be a role madness game, meaning that pretty much NO ONE is gonna be confirmed town.
Townies and goons do nothing. Of course, if they were the last two mafia, that's different.
Also, this could be a role madness game, meaning that pretty much NO ONE is gonna be confirmed town.
and that's an extreme case that i highly doubt it'll happen here.
but yeah idk.
but yeah idk.
Step 1: Allow people to queue actions (say have mafia send in kill with "don't execute until X time") [Example: Deadline.] This is also doable just by the mafia not sending in their action until right before deadline.Two wrote:
??? it's not normal to end night prematurely
you can confirm people as mafia/town that way
Optional Step 2: Allow people to send in actions for that night during the day.
Done, no more problems.
Then any confirming of mafia or town is entirely the fault of those who sent in actions.
These rules are secretly always in effect in my games but I don't really announce them just because I'm too lazy to add them to my rule list.
Unneccisarilly long nights are pointless and annoying. (To me.)
and it could be also a strategic, i remember on Werewolf game when i told LS to send my kill action whenever Ivalset logged in the day before, i think i ended not doing it but it was an idea.
Deadlines like that aren't allowed in my game anyway, since it requires me to do work.Salvage wrote:
and it could be also a strategic, i remember on Werewolf game when i told LS to send my kill action whenever Ivalset logged in the day before, i think i ended not doing it but it was an idea.
Though, another host could if they wanted. I don't reccomend it.
well shorten the night lenght on cases like when everyone sends they're night actions early .. assuming the mafia cna daytalk usually the actions are already decided on d3 or more, even maybe on d2 ..
it's not like im gonna die waiting 48 hours, but i think that's sometimes useless.
it's not like im gonna die waiting 48 hours, but i think that's sometimes useless.
The scummiest man alive, ladies and gentlemenSalvage wrote:
and it could be also a strategic, i remember on Werewolf game when i told LS to send my kill action whenever Ivalset logged in the day before, i think i ended not doing it but it was an idea.
Also, I'm always logged on anyway, so that never would have worked
what? u ended saying the other day "the day ended and salvage just logged in" .. and that was easy to manipulate against you so yeah.
^__^.
edit: and i meant, the moment Ivalset posts something, but i realized it wouldn't work so that's why i didnt' do it and that leads to the above thing i just said .. was easier that way.
also i don't think this is even needed to be discused, just pointed that out as a situation regarding what two said.
^__^.
edit: and i meant, the moment Ivalset posts something, but i realized it wouldn't work so that's why i didnt' do it and that leads to the above thing i just said .. was easier that way.
also i don't think this is even needed to be discused, just pointed that out as a situation regarding what two said.
I apologize but what's a QT?
QT = Quicktopic
Thank you, voted on "chat through QTs and actions through PMs"Luna wrote:
QT = Quicktopic
QT = Cutie
/in
Topic Starter
Twenty-two people should be well enough. Processing roles, please hold.
Topic Starter
Writing role PMs.
EDIT: 11/22 roles done. These'll probably fly tomorrow evening.
EDIT: 11/22 roles done. These'll probably fly tomorrow evening.
Let's play the waiting game!
Topic Starter
Unexpected delay. We should still be good for the 11th.
Of course we should.
...and if we aren't?
...and if we aren't?
roleeeees please
i'm the most impacient guy on earth, really.
i'm the most impacient guy on earth, really.
It starts on 11/11/11.
No matter how fast you get your PM's, it won't speed up the game start...
No matter how fast you get your PM's, it won't speed up the game start...
Salvage needs to start cooking up his mafia strats ahead of time, you see.
Topic Starter
All roles are finished. Oh, how you're gonna love all this.
I'm going to bed now (3 AM) but when I wake up, I will start sending out roles. Please confirm in this thread the moment you receive your role.
I'm going to bed now (3 AM) but when I wake up, I will start sending out roles. Please confirm in this thread the moment you receive your role.
Your role will be "Whatever I fakeclaim this time will turn out to be my actual role"
=DLuna wrote:
Your role will be "Whatever I fakeclaim this time will turn out to be my actual role"
Topic Starter
Two I got your PM and lived by it. No survivors/jesters/cult in this game. There may be a killer. There may be something even better.
Roles start now!
Roles start now!
oh boy oh boy
Salvage so hype
Still waiting for PM.
boy wojjan you must have been tired because you gave me LadySuburu's quicktopic which included his role... re-do?
oh dear
lol xDfoulcoon wrote:
boy wojjan you must have been tired because you gave me LadySuburu's quicktopic which included his role... re-do?
I think the standard procedure would just be to replace foulcoon, but I dunno if that would be fair...
that's weird cause I was thinking that would happen to me like 5 minutes ago
Restarting would be an issue since anyone claiming a role that someone else used to have would be confirmed by them.
faceman obviously wants to keep the role he got
vote 0_o
vote 0_o
Topic Starter
well fuck
well I shouldn't have been kidding when I said 12/12/12
well I shouldn't have been kidding when I said 12/12/12
i didn't evne get mine and unless i get "Salvage: ruler of the world (NOT A SCHIZOPHRENIC GUY)" and the thing about foulcoon was really a mistake then go re lol
you can still make itWojjan wrote:
well fuck
well I shouldn't have been kidding when I said 12/12/12
it's only 11/10/11
Topic Starter
:rolleyes:
scrambling roles. Since I have my anti-massclaim measure in place, getting confirmed by someone else having had the role won't be that much of an issue.
scrambling roles. Since I have my anti-massclaim measure in place, getting confirmed by someone else having had the role won't be that much of an issue.
if that wasn't a mistake then town already won
If the topic title is correct and you've only sent 5 roles, you could just change & scramble the roles you've already sent out.
how are you gonna keep track of 22 quicktopics
that seems hard
that seems hard
Topic Starter
I sent 8 by now, but it still won't be much of an issue. Please hold is back in issue.
This is so dramatic, /popcorn.
Can you guys just keep quiet.
Withhold any info you have gotten so far.
Blurting out things that imply something makes it worse for damage control.
(In fact if you hadn't posted it in the thread and just PM'd Wojjan foulcoon, we wouldn't even be in such a big mess as now)
Withhold any info you have gotten so far.
Blurting out things that imply something makes it worse for damage control.
(In fact if you hadn't posted it in the thread and just PM'd Wojjan foulcoon, we wouldn't even be in such a big mess as now)
Not really, the roles would have had to been scrambled either way.NoHItter wrote:
In fact if you hadn't posted it in the thread and just PM'd Wojjan foulcoon, we wouldn't even be in such a big mess as now)
whoever got roles already has an advantage if you don't remove foulcoon or make those roles public
Topic Starter
Yes but the advantage only wheighs slightly against the fun we all have if I don't have to boot players or reveal roles.
Don't worry guys I can handle this
Don't worry guys I can handle this
Will the anti-massclaiming measure be revealed when the game starts, or do we have to find out on our own?
Topic Starter
LISTEN UP Y'ALL
I'm dumb. I screwed up bad. This is how I'll fix it.
All the roles that I sent out by accident might be reused. Those that I replace with different roles shall be given to the mafia as fakeclaims. I won't disclose what happened to which roles, and the nature of the roles that have been sent so far were of such that it's hard to prove them being town or mafia. As such, a confirmation from a player having previously had the role only confirms the flavor and the role itself, not which faction it belongs to.
I'm dumb. I screwed up bad. This is how I'll fix it.
All the roles that I sent out by accident might be reused. Those that I replace with different roles shall be given to the mafia as fakeclaims. I won't disclose what happened to which roles, and the nature of the roles that have been sent so far were of such that it's hard to prove them being town or mafia. As such, a confirmation from a player having previously had the role only confirms the flavor and the role itself, not which faction it belongs to.
Alright.
Sounds good.
Confirm.
Confirm.
Confirm I guess?
[5/22 Roles Sent] and [Please Confirm] in the same line @_@
But I've received my role, so Confirm I guess.
But I've received my role, so Confirm I guess.
/confirm
Confirming.
This is a confirmation.
Confirming a nicely flavored role PM.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Confirming a nicely flavored role PM.
This would be a confirmation.
Confirm'd
confirmed