Well, with a Dethy setup it would be strange to not have any discrepancies ;P

DeathxShinigami wrote:

lolololol for me Lilac is Cop.

Also I didn't need to know Day 1 has started with 4 PM's :X

I didn't even know they were sent, I got an SQL error when I tried.

Hey guys...how about we just cop ourselves D2? That could tell a lot.

We are not allowed to investigate ourselves, it's in the PM.
Possible scumslip?

Oh right, it does say that...

...Crap. Shows how much I read. The other plan is for us to all cop the same person. It works the same way.

Also, GJ.

My investigation resulted in Luna being mafia.

Also, Lilac not knowing about investigating yourself isn't really a scum slip, as the cop role PM is posted in the OP.

I know, still pointing it out since the mafia won't have the "reminder" of actually recieving the PM.
I know there's always the possibility of people just not reading carefully, happens all the time ;P

Lilac wrote:

So far:-

1. Luna claims that Lilac is Mafia
2. DxS claims that Lilac is Cop
3. Lilac claims that NoHItter is Mafia
4. rust claims that Luna is Mafia

We're still waiting on NoHItter.

Lilac is Cop for me.

Cop Table:
Lilac - Sane, Insane, Naive, Paranoid
rust45 - Sane, Insane, Naive, Paranoid
Luna - Sane, Insane, Naive, Paranoid
NoHItter -Sane, Insane, Naive, Paranoid
DxS - Sane, Insane, Naive, Paranoid

Who targeted who:
Lilac - NoHItter is Mafia
rust45 - Luna is Mafia
Luna - Lilac is Mafia
NoHItter - Lilac is Cop
DxS - Lilac is Cop

Also guys, read this: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Dethy/Analysis

Edit since if I were to post again, it would be quad.
I'll be doing that analysis.

If Lilac is Mafia:
rust45 - Insane/Paranoid
Luna - Sane/Paranoid
NoHItter - Insane/Naive
DxS - Insane/Naive
Not clear

If rust45 is Mafia:
Lilac - Insane/Paranoid
Luna - Insane/Paranoid
NoHItter - Sane/Naive
DxS - Sane/Naive
Not clear

If Luna is Mafia:
Lilac - Insane/Paranoid
rust45 - Sane/Paranoid
NoHItter - Sane/Naive
DxS - Sane/Naive
Not clear

If NoHItter is Mafia:
Lilac - Sane/Paranoid
rust45 - Insane/Paranoid
Luna - Insane/Paranoid
DxS - Sane/Naive
Not clear

If DxS is Mafia:
Lilac - Insane/Paranoid
rust45 - Insane/Paranoid
Luna - Insane/Paranoid
NoHitter - Sane/Naive
Cleared

So basically, DxS is cleared because if he were scum, the set-up would be impossible. As there won't be either a naive/sane cop.

That would be all fine and dandy if only everyone told the truth.

Sadly, not everyone did.

Cops have no reason to lie.

On a sidenote I should explain the strategy in a less complex manner:
1) We assume someone is mafia.
2) If by assuming that someone is mafia, we can cross reference the results.
3) If we assume someone is mafia, and there are any lack in cop sanity (e.g. DxS' where it lacks a Sane/Naive cop as I could have only been Sane/Naive), that person is cleared as it would be impossible for that person to be mafia.

We No Lynch now due to not enough information or do we just hit one that we know is not cop?

Huh? DxS is confirmed cop, since he cannot be scum, because if he was scum it would contract the set-up.
And yes, we no lynch for more info until it's only 3 people left.

That's cool.

No Lynch

Lilac wrote:

hit one that we know is not cop?

I know that DxS is a cop.

Uhh that's a 1/4 chance, so I 'd rather not risk that.
Vote: No Lynch

I suppose we all target DxS during night then? Since he is confirmed~

I've also worked on quite a few thoughts of my own and while it's not 100% conclusive I still managed to get some nice reads on everyone that I should be able to confirm tomorrow. We should be able to win this (:
Not going to vote no lynch just yet because I don't want to end the day before everyone was able to add their thoughts (if any), but I don't see reson to vote someone atm.

Yes that's a nice idea.
We should investigate DxS to confirm our sanity.
Hopefully scum won't kill our Sane/Insane cop.

Vote: No Lynch

Then who should I target for night 1 then?

Anyone you think is suspicious.
There could be chance that you're the sane/insane cop.

No Lynch has been lynched!

Night 1 has started. Please send actions within 24 hours.

Everyone's actions have been sent in for Night 1, so Day 2 will begin early!

Well everyone except DxS, he didn't send in an action yet. It doesn't matter though, because DxS is DEAD.

DeathxShinigami (Mafia Jester Serial Killer Cop) - Killed Night 1.

Deadline is in 72 hours.

side note: I'm getting SQL errors when I send PMs. Last time this happened, they went through anyway and you all got a ton of PMs. I'll assume they all went through, and some of you may have received multiple PMs, but if you did not get a result and should have, send me a PM, don't post about it.

It's official.

I am paranoid. PARANOID I TELL YOU. THE WALLS ARE MELTING.

DxS is Mafia.
And I guess Lilac got a Mafia result as well?

I'm pretty dang sure rust is Maf.
But I'll doublecheck my logic before I post it here and potentially humiliate myself

So we all investigated DxS?
I got a Cop result on him, which means either I'm Sane or Naive.
Both Lilac and Luna got Maf results so they are Insane/Paranoid.
IDK about rust yet.

Waiting for his results.

Haha this is so frustrating.
I can prove that NoHItter and Lilac are Cops. And since I am a Cop, rust is Mafia. But I can't prove I'm a Cop xD

Anyway, this is how I came to my conclusions (some steps are completely useless, but I want to give a full recap of everything I did for completions sake):

First, I drew some conclusions from the results of N0. This did not yet factor in N1 results because I didn't have them at the time.
Now that I know Lilac's and my N1 results I can weed out the possibilities though and prove that rust is Mafia if I'm a Cop (Which I know I am).
Keep in mind that this is all from my point of view, so assuming I'm Cop. But don't worry, I also did some thought experiments that don't rely on me being Cop because I can't expect you to blindly believe that. Please read everything though, so you can follow my train of thoughth. It's quite long, I apologize~
Basically, what I did was analyze all the possibilities that could result from my N0 target being mafia or cop.

Luna - Sane/Insane/Paranoid
Lilac - Sane/Insane/Paranoid/Mafia
rust - Insane/Paranoid/Mafia
NoHItter - Sane/Insane/Naive/Mafia
DxS - Sane/Insane/Naive



Lilac Maf ->
Luna - Sane/Paranoid
rust - Insane/Paranoid
NoHItter - Insane/Naive
DxS - Insane/Naive
->
Luna - Sane
rust - Paranoid
NoHItter, DxS - Insane/Naive

CONTRADICTS N1 RESULTS (Luna Sane)

->

Lilac Cop ->
Luna - Insane/Paranoid
Lilac - Sane/Insane/Paranoid
rust - Insane/Paranoid/Mafia
NoHItter - Sane/Naive/Mafia
DxS - Sane/Naive

- Possibility 1 ->
NoHItter - Mafia
->
Luna, rust - Insane/Paranoid
Lilac - Sane
DxS - Naive

CONTRADICTS N1 RESULTS (Lilac Sane)


- Possibility 2 ->
rust - Mafia
->
Luna, Lilac - Insane/Paranoid
NoHItter, DxS - Sane/Naive

LINES UP

So as you can see, when I'm Cop it's 100% sure that rust is Mafia. At least assuming that all the Cops claimed their actual results, but anything different than that wouldn't make sense.

Next, I tried proving that I am Cop by repeating this process from the points of view of both Lilac and NoHItter. Since I already know they are Cop, it's safe for me to assume all of this.
Unfortunately I was unable to prove that I am a Cop. But Both Lilac and NoHItter can at least prove to themselves that neither of them is Mafia. Unfortunately the two different possibilities that can be analyzed from this just line up with no contradictions, so you can't prove anything further.
At least that only leaves rust and me as suspects, tho~

Here are the PoV-versions:

Lilac PoV after N1

Luna - Insane/Paranoid/Mafia
Lilac - Insane/Paranoid
rust - Sane/Insane/Paranoid/Mafia
NoHItter - Sane/Naive/Mafia
DxS - Sane/Naive



NoHItter Maf ->
Luna - Insane/Paranoid
Lilac - Paranoid
rust - Insane/Paranoid

DOESN'T LINE UP

->

NoHItter Cop

NoHItter PoV after N1 assuming he flipped Cop on DxS (which I know he does)

Luna - Sane/Insane/Paranoid/Mafia
Lilac - Insane/Paranoid/Mafia
rust - Sane/Insane/Paranoid/Mafia
NoHItter - Sane/Naive
DxS - Sane/Insane/Naive



Lilac Maf ->
Luna - Sane
rust - Insane/Paranoid
NoHItter - Naive
DxS - Insane/Naive

CONTRADICTS N1 RESULTS (Luna Sane)

->

Lilac Cop ->
Luna - Insane/Paranoid/Mafia
Lilac - Insane/Paranoid
rust - Sane/Insane/Paranoid/Mafia
NoHItter - Sane/Naive
DxS - Sane/Naive
->
NoHItter/DxS - Sane/Naive
->
rust - Insane/Paranoid/Mafia

Stupid situation is stupid.
I guess we'll have to wait for N2 results to prove rust Mafia xD

lol, ninja'd by NoHItter's result but it perfectly fits what I predicted.
So NoHItter can now be sure that Lilac is Cop and Lilac can be sure that NoHItter is Cop.
You two are now confirmed.

(Unless I majorly messed up somewhere, in that case please point it out. But I doubt it, really)

Let's do this but with D2 results we had so far:
Lilac on DxS - Guilty
Luna on DxS - Guilty
NoHitter on DxS - Cop

If Lilac is Mafia:
rust45 - Insane/Paranoid
Luna - Paranoid
NoHItter - Insane/Naive
DxS - Insane/Naive
Cleared. No sane at all even if we consider rust's result.

If rust45 is Mafia:
Lilac - Insane/Paranoid
Luna - Insane/Paranoid
NoHItter - Sane/Naive
DxS - Sane/Naive
Not clear. Nothing changes.

If Luna is Mafia:
Lilac - Insane/Paranoid
rust45 - Sane/Paranoid
NoHItter - Sane/Naive
DxS - Sane/Naive
Not clear. Nothing changes either.

If NoHItter is Mafia:
Lilac - Paranoid
rust45 - Insane/Paranoid
Luna - Insane/Paranoid
DxS - Sane/Naive
Cleared. No possible way sane/naive cop can exist since only DxS could have been it.

Therefore mafia is between Luna and rust45.
Lilac and me are clear.

Who do we go for then?

rust?

I'd love to go for rust, but from your point of view it would probably be cleverer to look at possible night targets that can prove who of us is actually a Cop. Because if you lynch the wrong one, after a NK it's 2 players and win for scum.
And while I know that rust is mafia, you can't be 100% sure about it.
Still, vote: rust because I have no reason not to

rust, please tell us results ASAP.
Also please don't no-lynch until I post after rust gives his results. I wanna read and post before we go into the Night.

No we wait for another day.
Either me or Lilac would be killed since we're confirmed.
The game would be down to either rust or Luna.

Lilac, if either one of us gets a different result (if Cop, you get Guilty. If Guilty, you get Cop.) on someone, it means that your Insane or I'm Sane. In that case vote for the guy who changed your result.

Ninja'd

We No-Lynch today.
Info tomorrow will be helpful in determining mafia.

Will do. ^_^

Okay, now we have to pray that
1. At least one of you is Sane/Insane
2. That Person targets the Mafia
3. That person isn't NK'd

Oh joy...

Sorry, the day started when I was asleep and I didn't get time to check it before going to school.

I investigated DxS as well and I got Cop. This means, that I am sane.

@ Luna, sure the only choice you have is vote me, but I'm not going to vote you for the very reason that a mis-lynch is probably the worst idea in this setup.

OK with rust45's Cop Result on DxS rest, let's see:
Lilac on DxS - Guilty
rust45 on DxS - Cop
Luna on DxS - Guilty
NoHitter on DxS - Cop

If Lilac is Mafia:
rust45 - Insane/Paranoid (Sane/Naive?) - Cannot be; Contradicts D1 Results
Luna - Paranoid
NoHItter - Insane/Naive
DxS - Insane/Naive
Cleared. No sane at all even if we consider rust's result.

If rust45 is Mafia:
Lilac - Insane/Paranoid
Luna - Insane/Paranoid
NoHItter - Sane/Naive
DxS - Sane/Naive
Not clear. Nothing changes.

If Luna is Mafia:
Lilac - Insane/Paranoid
rust45 - Sane
NoHItter - Sane/Naive
DxS - Sane/Naive
Cleared. No possible way Insane/Paranoid cop can exist since only Lilac could have been it.

If NoHItter is Mafia:
Lilac - Paranoid
rust45 - Insane/Paranoid (Sane/Naive?) - Cannot be; Contradicts D1 Results
Luna - Insane/Paranoid
DxS - Sane/Naive
Cleared. No possible way sane/naive cop can exist since only DxS could have been it.

So rust45 is Mafia.
Vote: rust45

EBWOP:
We need not NL anymore, since rust45 is sure Mafia.
Unless of course my analysis is wrong.
But I'm fairly sure it's correct, and Luna appears very townie either way.

votes:

rust45 (2) - NoHItter, Luna

*sigh*

I'm going to curse myself if rust isn't mafia. Vote: rust

rust45 has been lynched.

rust45 was the sole Mafia Goon.

Town wins!

Woot.

...What now? Cop party?

Lilac wrote:

Cop party?

donuts obviously

also

I thought I was insane...

...Why did I say I was paranoid? Oh geez.

DONUTS! KYAA~

So ironic that even if we did NL and either me or Lilac were targeted, we could still get opposite results

Phew, and I was afraid you were both Paranoid/Naive and it would come down to guessing xP

Oh damn it. I think thoroughly enough when I gave my results. I knew I did something wrong.