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Since arken is slacking off~
(this is totally going to bleed into my own style when I map my own Easy/Normal/Hard, you just watch)
[Easy]
This should be on slider tick rate 2, since some of your sliders land on places that sound awkward with slider tick rate 1, such as 00:03:958 (2). (it also looks nicer in terms of symmetry)
00:42:208 (3) - How about replacing this with a 1-repeat 1/1 slider, like you had earlier?
00:43:408 (1) - Really cool effect.
00:50:608 (1,2) - Whether you use tick rate 1 or 2, this part still sounds awkward...
[Normal]
00:03:058 (1,2) - I felt that these landed in weird places.
00:09:508 - Adding a note here sounds better, though I agree it might be a bit hard for Normal. Your call.
00:09:808 (1) - End this 1/2 earlier?
00:27:658 (1) - I'd recommend not stacking this, since having it spaced gives more cues for how soon the next slider will come.
00:38:608 (1,2,3) - 2 and 3 should be switched, to form slider-note-slider instead of slider-slider-note, follows the music better, imo.
00:41:008 (2,3,4) - Same for 3 and 4 here.
00:52:408 (2) - I recommend changing all the sliders to the 1-repeat variety, just because of how awkward that tick placement is.
00:56:608 (1) - Starting here, I lose track of your combo scheme; please explain it to me because I'm dumb~
00:58:408 (5,6) - Doesn't follow the music that well.
01:05:158 (1) - Add a note on the major white tick before this? Starting a pattern 1/2 after a major white tick is a bit rough on Normal.
01:14:308 (4) - Here's something you could do here; use a custom section where the slider whistle sound is silenced. Start the section right on the 4, but end it and go back to normal at the repeat. Then if you add a whistle to this slider body, it'll become audible after the repeat, and sound cool along with the slider whistles that are after this.
01:21:808 (1,2,3) - I recommend swapping 2 and 3 again. This just puts the slider head on the major white tick, which is musically better.
[Hard]
00:03:958 - This space is a bit awkward.
00:05:308 - Add a note here? This gap is hard to read since it's stacked.
00:27:358 (2) - Lands in a weird place, the lyric doesn't start until 1/2 after.
00:38:308 (1) - Add a note where this is, start it 1/1 later, so that it lands on the big white tick. Plays better.
00:40:708 (1) - Weird place for a slider end and a gap; I'd put notes on the two white ticks after this too; it's a Hard anyways, sounds much better.
00:43:408 (2) - Slider ends in a weird place. Ironically it's a big white tick, but nothing happens on this big white tick.
00:45:808 - Something does happen on this one though, which is missed...
00:46:408 (4) - Nothing happens on this white tick.
00:48:508 (7) - This is good.
No problems with this slider here.
00:55:408 (1) - Don't understand this kiai combo scheme either. The note placement is fine though.
01:24:208 (1) - Really hard to predict when this one ends, so 2 is a frequent miss.
[Insane]
Some parts of this are hard to read with the video.
00:03:958 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Concerned about how messy this combo is; it's quite cluttered together. I could read it on my first try, but it didn't look very good.
00:38:608 (2) - These claps are a bit weird.
00:43:408 (1) - Doesn't follow the music, and that one 1/2 triplet is hard to read. Why is this all 1/1s?
00:50:608 (1) - Using the slider to introduce the 3/4 section is definitely good. -thumbs up-
00:57:808 - The lack of a note on this major white tick is very hard to expect since the notes occur in separate places, so it could be easily mistaken as a jump.
01:02:608 (6) - I don't recommend having these even-number repeat sliders with a note after, which you have a lot of, because it would make just as much sense to have an extra repeat on the slider, so it's hard to predict the note.
01:14:608 (1) - Too pointy, make them a bit rounder?
01:25:558 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Same as before about this pattern.
[Extra]
00:09:808 (1) - Could look better, probably.
00:12:508 (1) - Manually change this combo to a different colour please. http://puu.sh/4Dp6
00:27:658 (6) - Could be made perfectly symmetrical by pushing the top point up a bit and then moving the center point right until one more grid would cause the slider to shorten. http://puu.sh/4Dpj
00:29:008 (9) - Misses the last "raaahh" but that's okay.
00:32:758 (1) - I would've started this stream on the big white tick; a bit more intuitive to play and the music starts on the blue tick in between anyways.
00:38:608 (1) - I don't think this was a good place to double the number of claps.
00:50:608 (1) - How about combos of 6 instead of 3 here? With your AR, the jumps should be obvious enough, and it would make your combos symmetric and consistent with the ending 7-note combo.
01:00:208 (1) - It seems like you put a new combo with every second stanza (whenever the girl comes in), so a new combo isn't necessary here.
01:08:008 (1) - ^
01:09:808 (1) - ^ (do you change to having a new combo on the guy's lines too here? It might be better to make them consistent. Look over the kiai section's combos please)
01:14:608 (1) - A bit of a weird place to put a stream; I personally have an anti-stream here (jumpy long sliders). XD Your style though.
01:19:408 (1) - Completely random and unpredictable speed up, and looks like you designed it purposefully so that you can't hold your mouse in the middle. While I'm okay with the stream, I'm not okay with this.
Okay, to be honest, I think this needs more modding, so I'm removing the popped bubble icon.
(this is totally going to bleed into my own style when I map my own Easy/Normal/Hard, you just watch)
[Easy]
This should be on slider tick rate 2, since some of your sliders land on places that sound awkward with slider tick rate 1, such as 00:03:958 (2). (it also looks nicer in terms of symmetry)
00:42:208 (3) - How about replacing this with a 1-repeat 1/1 slider, like you had earlier?
00:43:408 (1) - Really cool effect.
00:50:608 (1,2) - Whether you use tick rate 1 or 2, this part still sounds awkward...
[Normal]
00:03:058 (1,2) - I felt that these landed in weird places.
00:09:508 - Adding a note here sounds better, though I agree it might be a bit hard for Normal. Your call.
00:09:808 (1) - End this 1/2 earlier?
00:27:658 (1) - I'd recommend not stacking this, since having it spaced gives more cues for how soon the next slider will come.
00:38:608 (1,2,3) - 2 and 3 should be switched, to form slider-note-slider instead of slider-slider-note, follows the music better, imo.
00:41:008 (2,3,4) - Same for 3 and 4 here.
00:52:408 (2) - I recommend changing all the sliders to the 1-repeat variety, just because of how awkward that tick placement is.
00:56:608 (1) - Starting here, I lose track of your combo scheme; please explain it to me because I'm dumb~
00:58:408 (5,6) - Doesn't follow the music that well.
01:05:158 (1) - Add a note on the major white tick before this? Starting a pattern 1/2 after a major white tick is a bit rough on Normal.
01:14:308 (4) - Here's something you could do here; use a custom section where the slider whistle sound is silenced. Start the section right on the 4, but end it and go back to normal at the repeat. Then if you add a whistle to this slider body, it'll become audible after the repeat, and sound cool along with the slider whistles that are after this.
01:21:808 (1,2,3) - I recommend swapping 2 and 3 again. This just puts the slider head on the major white tick, which is musically better.
[Hard]
00:03:958 - This space is a bit awkward.
00:05:308 - Add a note here? This gap is hard to read since it's stacked.
00:27:358 (2) - Lands in a weird place, the lyric doesn't start until 1/2 after.
00:38:308 (1) - Add a note where this is, start it 1/1 later, so that it lands on the big white tick. Plays better.
00:40:708 (1) - Weird place for a slider end and a gap; I'd put notes on the two white ticks after this too; it's a Hard anyways, sounds much better.
00:43:408 (2) - Slider ends in a weird place. Ironically it's a big white tick, but nothing happens on this big white tick.
00:45:808 - Something does happen on this one though, which is missed...
00:46:408 (4) - Nothing happens on this white tick.
00:48:508 (7) - This is good.
No problems with this slider here.00:55:408 (1) - Don't understand this kiai combo scheme either. The note placement is fine though.
01:24:208 (1) - Really hard to predict when this one ends, so 2 is a frequent miss.
[Insane]
Some parts of this are hard to read with the video.
00:03:958 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Concerned about how messy this combo is; it's quite cluttered together. I could read it on my first try, but it didn't look very good.
00:38:608 (2) - These claps are a bit weird.
00:43:408 (1) - Doesn't follow the music, and that one 1/2 triplet is hard to read. Why is this all 1/1s?
00:50:608 (1) - Using the slider to introduce the 3/4 section is definitely good. -thumbs up-
00:57:808 - The lack of a note on this major white tick is very hard to expect since the notes occur in separate places, so it could be easily mistaken as a jump.
01:02:608 (6) - I don't recommend having these even-number repeat sliders with a note after, which you have a lot of, because it would make just as much sense to have an extra repeat on the slider, so it's hard to predict the note.
01:14:608 (1) - Too pointy, make them a bit rounder?
01:25:558 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Same as before about this pattern.
[Extra]
00:09:808 (1) - Could look better, probably.
00:12:508 (1) - Manually change this combo to a different colour please. http://puu.sh/4Dp6
00:27:658 (6) - Could be made perfectly symmetrical by pushing the top point up a bit and then moving the center point right until one more grid would cause the slider to shorten. http://puu.sh/4Dpj
00:29:008 (9) - Misses the last "raaahh" but that's okay.
00:32:758 (1) - I would've started this stream on the big white tick; a bit more intuitive to play and the music starts on the blue tick in between anyways.
00:38:608 (1) - I don't think this was a good place to double the number of claps.
00:50:608 (1) - How about combos of 6 instead of 3 here? With your AR, the jumps should be obvious enough, and it would make your combos symmetric and consistent with the ending 7-note combo.
01:00:208 (1) - It seems like you put a new combo with every second stanza (whenever the girl comes in), so a new combo isn't necessary here.
01:08:008 (1) - ^
01:09:808 (1) - ^ (do you change to having a new combo on the guy's lines too here? It might be better to make them consistent. Look over the kiai section's combos please)
01:14:608 (1) - A bit of a weird place to put a stream; I personally have an anti-stream here (jumpy long sliders). XD Your style though.
01:19:408 (1) - Completely random and unpredictable speed up, and looks like you designed it purposefully so that you can't hold your mouse in the middle. While I'm okay with the stream, I'm not okay with this.
Okay, to be honest, I think this needs more modding, so I'm removing the popped bubble icon.
Thank Sorry my poor english and fixedKytoxid wrote:
[Normal]
00:03:058 (1,2) - I felt that these landed in weird places. No I play i feeling this fine
00:09:508 - Adding a note here sounds better, though I agree it might be a bit hard for Normal. Your call.I didn't add note i just change spinner start here
00:09:808 (1) - End this 1/2 earlier? yes
00:27:658 (1) - I'd recommend not stacking this, since having it spaced gives more cues for how soon the next slider will come. No I like better stack
00:38:608 (1,2,3) - 2 and 3 should be switched, to form slider-note-slider instead of slider-slider-note, follows the music better, imo. No I like slider-slider-note is fine
00:41:008 (2,3,4) - Same for 3 and 4 here.No ^
00:52:408 (2) - I recommend changing all the sliders to the 1-repeat variety, just because of how awkward that tick placement is.No I Guess this is follow lyrics 1/3
00:56:608 (1) - Starting here, I lose track of your combo scheme; please explain it to me because I'm dumb~huh i don't understand so no
00:58:408 (5,6) - Doesn't follow the music that well.Are you sure ? I try put 50% slow song and i listen 5 time i think is fine
01:05:158 (1) - Add a note on the major white tick before this? Starting a pattern 1/2 after a major white tick is a bit rough on Normal.No is too hard play
01:14:308 (4) - Here's something you could do here; use a custom section where the slider whistle sound is silenced. Start the section right on the 4, but end it and go back to normal at the repeat. Then if you add a whistle to this slider body, it'll become audible after the repeat, and sound cool along with the slider whistles that are after this.yes
01:21:808 (1,2,3) - I recommend swapping 2 and 3 again. This just puts the slider head on the major white tick, which is musically better.No I like this more
Download: Hyadain - Hyadain no Joujou Yuujou (TV Size) (Makar8000) [Pereira's Normal].osu
Ele quis dizer que não entendeu o jeito que você colocou os new combos e quer que você explique.Pereira006 wrote:
00:56:608 (1) - Starting here, I lose track of your combo scheme; please explain it to me because I'm dumb~huh i don't understand so no]
00:55:408 ate 00:56:608 ai é longe. 00:56:608 Time kiai e lyrics senhora canta forte e musica forte logo ponho new comboBlue Dragon wrote:
Ele quis dizer que não entendeu o jeito que você colocou os new combos e quer que você explique.Pereira006 wrote:
00:56:608 (1) - Starting here, I lose track of your combo scheme; please explain it to me because I'm dumb~huh i don't understand so no]
Topic Starter
Thanks for the mod. Extra + Hard will be looked at laterKytoxid wrote:
Since arken is slacking off~
(this is totally going to bleed into my own style when I map my own Easy/Normal/Hard, you just watch)
[Easy]
This should be on slider tick rate 2, since some of your sliders land on places that sound awkward with slider tick rate 1, such as 00:03:958 (2). (it also looks nicer in terms of symmetry) Done
00:42:208 (3) - How about replacing this with a 1-repeat 1/1 slider, like you had earlier? I don't really like it because of the silence
00:43:408 (1) - Really cool effect. Thanks, some people don't like though
00:50:608 (1,2) - Whether you use tick rate 1 or 2, this part still sounds awkward... The slider start and ends follow the timpani in the background (you could also think of it as just doing the downbeat instead of triplets). It sounds weird in tick rate 2 because the tick is on the upbeat instead of on a triplet beat. It sounds fine to me with tick rate 1 though. I will still keep the change from tick rate 1 to 2
[Normal]
Updated
[Insane]
Some parts of this are hard to read with the video.
00:03:958 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Concerned about how messy this combo is; it's quite cluttered together. I could read it on my first try, but it didn't look very good. It seems cluttered because its in the corner like that. I could move things around but I still like this pattern.
00:38:608 (2) - These claps are a bit weird. It follows the background claps
00:43:408 (1) - Doesn't follow the music, and that one 1/2 triplet is hard to read. Why is this all 1/1s? I did it like this simply because that is how I feel when this part is playing. I can't really explain it but I can tell you that I did NOT do this because I was lazy and couldn't think of what to do.
00:50:608 (1) - Using the slider to introduce the 3/4 section is definitely good. -thumbs up-
00:57:808 - The lack of a note on this major white tick is very hard to expect since the notes occur in separate places, so it could be easily mistaken as a jump. Fixed
01:02:608 (6) - I don't recommend having these even-number repeat sliders with a note after, which you have a lot of, because it would make just as much sense to have an extra repeat on the slider, so it's hard to predict the note. I agree. Fixed
01:14:608 (1) - Too pointy, make them a bit rounder? I think this is fine
01:25:558 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Same as before about this pattern. As said before, I like this pattern and just seems cluttered because of where it is.
Okay, to be honest, I think this needs more modding, so I'm removing the popped bubble icon.
EDIT: Extra all ignored except a change in combo color
Sorry to pop in, but the huge stream at the end of [Extra] was much better before imo. Now it's slightly confusing to read since there is sudden spacing change between some combos. Together with the fast slider this stream is my fav part of the map, so it would be nice if you could change it back.
Well, you see, I love you Dangaard, so it will be done.
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Topic Starter
Dangaard wrote:
Sorry to pop in, but the huge stream at the end of [Extra] was much better before imo. Now it's slightly confusing to read since there is sudden spacing change between some combos. Together with the fast slider this stream is my fav part of the map, so it would be nice if you could change it back.
DoneOzzyOzrock wrote:
Well, you see, I love you Dangaard, so it will be done.
YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Thanks ^^Kytoxid wrote:
[Hard]
00:03:958 - This space is a bit awkward. Some changes in this part.
00:05:308 - Add a note here? This gap is hard to read since it's stacked. Ok
00:27:358 (2) - Lands in a weird place, the lyric doesn't start until 1/2 after. It's fine.
00:38:308 (1) - Add a note where this is, start it 1/1 later, so that it lands on the big white tick. Plays better. Ok
00:40:708 (1) - Weird place for a slider end and a gap; I'd put notes on the two white ticks after this too; it's a Hard anyways, sounds much better. Nope, I prefer to leave it.
00:43:408 (2) - Slider ends in a weird place. Ironically it's a big white tick, but nothing happens on this big white tick. Reduce 1/2 the slider.
00:45:808 - Something does happen on this one though, which is missed... that's sounds good for me.
00:46:408 (4) - Nothing happens on this white tick. The voice lol
00:48:508 (7) - This is good.
00:55:408 (1) - Don't understand this kiai combo scheme either. The note placement is fine though.? x_x
01:24:208 (1) - Really hard to predict when this one ends, so 2 is a frequent miss. lulz I move (4) due hidden repeat.
Download: Hyadain - Hyadain no Joujou Yuujou (TV Size) (Makar8000) [eldnL's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
Updated...
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Hi~
General
Make your slider tick rate the same on all difficulties.
Make combo colour 4 a little bit lighter.
01:17:008 - end Kiai here?
Ozzy's Extra
OD+1/2
00:36:208 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make spacing better or use some new combos
00:41:608 (1) - end this here 00:41:908 - then 00:42:208 - add note 00:42:508 - add note 00:42:808 - add note
00:43:108 (2) - new combo
00:45:208 (3) - shorten by 1 reverse arrow
00:47:608 (6) - ^
that stream ~_~
Insane
OD in this difficulty is higher than in Extra.
00:42:508 (3,4,5) - make spacing even
Hard
This difficulty is good
00:03:958 (1) - shorten by 1 reverse arrow then 00:05:008 - add note stacked on 00:05:308 (2) -
Normal
00:09:658 (1) - remove clap
00:14:308 (3) - change clap to whistle
00:17:008 - add whistle
00:26:608 - ^
00:33:808 - change this points volume to 70%
00:43:108 - maybe put a delayed break till here 00:43:408 -
01:27:658 - lol whistle
Good luck~
General
Make your slider tick rate the same on all difficulties.
Make combo colour 4 a little bit lighter.
01:17:008 - end Kiai here?
Ozzy's Extra
OD+1/2
00:36:208 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make spacing better or use some new combos
00:41:608 (1) - end this here 00:41:908 - then 00:42:208 - add note 00:42:508 - add note 00:42:808 - add note
00:43:108 (2) - new combo
00:45:208 (3) - shorten by 1 reverse arrow
00:47:608 (6) - ^
that stream ~_~
Insane
OD in this difficulty is higher than in Extra.
00:42:508 (3,4,5) - make spacing even
Hard
This difficulty is good
00:03:958 (1) - shorten by 1 reverse arrow then 00:05:008 - add note stacked on 00:05:308 (2) -
Normal
00:09:658 (1) - remove clap
00:14:308 (3) - change clap to whistle
00:17:008 - add whistle
00:26:608 - ^
00:33:808 - change this points volume to 70%
00:43:108 - maybe put a delayed break till here 00:43:408 -
01:27:658 - lol whistle
Good luck~
Topic Starter
Thanks for the mod. Ozzy and eldnl will look at theirs laterKiiwa wrote:
Hi~
General
Make your slider tick rate the same on all difficulties. Changed is most diffs, waiting on Ozzy's approval
Make combo colour 4 a little bit lighter. It's fine
01:17:008 - end Kiai here? Changed in most diffs, waiting on Ozzy's approval
Insane
OD in this difficulty is higher than in Extra. Changed to OD 6
00:42:508 (3,4,5) - make spacing even Moved (4) one grid to the left)
Normal
Normal all ignored
Good luck~
The one blue slider goes with the hand, the repeats aaahnooo
Download: Hyadain - Hyadain no Joujou Yuujou (TV Size) (Makar8000) [Ozzy's Extra].osu
Topic Starter
Updated
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ohoho thanks anywaysKiiwa wrote:
Hard
This difficulty is good
00:03:958 (1) - shorten by 1 reverse arrow then 00:05:008 - add note stacked on 00:05:308 (2) - It's fine...
I'm too lazy to check through all the mods to see if anything was suggested and rejected, so sorry if you see some repeats.
[Easy]
I woud like to spend more time on the insane diff, but I took a quick look through this. Looks good ^^
[Peireira's Normal]
00:33:808 - Have the inheriting section that starts here start at 00:33:508
[eldnL's Hard]
00:28:558 (4) - Reverse slider? =D
[Insane]
00:02:608 (1,2,3,4,6) - Delete (2,4,6) and make (1,3) reverse sliders.
00:05:608 (1) - Reverse slider?
00:08:008 (2) - ^?
00:09:358 (6,7,8,9) Would be nicer if you made it like 00:06:958 (5,6,7,1)
00:10:108 (2,3) - Do something similar to this?
00:15:358 (3) - Make this a reverse slider?
00:17:608 (3) - ^
00:25:108 (3) - ^ (As an explaination, the jump is completely achievable and makes it sound better)
00:32:308 (8) - Flip this slider horizontally and place it back.
00:37:708 (2,3,1) - Swap (2) and (3) and make (1) 2 quarter beats earlier and make it a reverse slider?
00:44:458 (5) - You had a note here, makes sense to have a note at 00:46:858 too.
00:57:358 (1,2) - Delete (2) and make (1) a reverse slider.
01:05:158 - Try this ^^
01:22:708 (3,4) - Yeah, I am loving reverse sliders today.
01:24:208 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
[Ozzy's Extra]
This is just amazing.
00:33:808 (1) - Remove NC? Its literally just one note.
01:19:408 (1) - Sole reason why I failed this diff LOL.
[Easy]
I woud like to spend more time on the insane diff, but I took a quick look through this. Looks good ^^
[Peireira's Normal]
00:33:808 - Have the inheriting section that starts here start at 00:33:508
[eldnL's Hard]
00:28:558 (4) - Reverse slider? =D
[Insane]
00:02:608 (1,2,3,4,6) - Delete (2,4,6) and make (1,3) reverse sliders.
00:05:608 (1) - Reverse slider?
00:08:008 (2) - ^?
00:09:358 (6,7,8,9) Would be nicer if you made it like 00:06:958 (5,6,7,1)
00:10:108 (2,3) - Do something similar to this?
00:15:358 (3) - Make this a reverse slider?
00:17:608 (3) - ^
00:25:108 (3) - ^ (As an explaination, the jump is completely achievable and makes it sound better)
00:32:308 (8) - Flip this slider horizontally and place it back.
00:37:708 (2,3,1) - Swap (2) and (3) and make (1) 2 quarter beats earlier and make it a reverse slider?
00:44:458 (5) - You had a note here, makes sense to have a note at 00:46:858 too.
00:57:358 (1,2) - Delete (2) and make (1) a reverse slider.
01:05:158 - Try this ^^
01:22:708 (3,4) - Yeah, I am loving reverse sliders today.
01:24:208 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
[Ozzy's Extra]
This is just amazing.
00:33:808 (1) - Remove NC? Its literally just one note.
01:19:408 (1) - Sole reason why I failed this diff LOL.
Topic Starter
Thanks for modding ^^Nyquill wrote:
[Easy]
I woud like to spend more time on the insane diff, but I took a quick look through this. Looks good ^^ Thanks
[Peireira's Normal]
00:33:808 - Have the inheriting section that starts here start at 00:33:508 Pereira says ignore
[Insane]
00:02:608 (1,2,3,4,6) - Delete (2,4,6) and make (1,3) reverse sliders. Done
00:05:608 (1) - Reverse slider? Fixed the pattern here
00:08:008 (2) - ^? I'll keep it the way it is
00:09:358 (6,7,8,9) Would be nicer if you made it like 00:06:958 (5,6,7,1)
00:10:108 (2,3) - Do something similar to this? Uhh changed something else
00:15:358 (3) - Make this a reverse slider? No thanks
00:17:608 (3) - ^ Same ^
00:25:108 (3) - ^ (As an explaination, the jump is completely achievable and makes it sound better) Same ^
00:32:308 (8) - Flip this slider horizontally and place it back. Because of all the circular slider movement patterns I have after this I want to keep this how it is.
00:37:708 (2,3,1) - Swap (2) and (3) and make (1) 2 quarter beats earlier and make it a reverse slider? o.o good idea
00:44:458 (5) - You had a note here, makes sense to have a note at 00:46:858 too. Doesn't fit the background (which is why this note is here in the first place)
00:57:358 (1,2) - Delete (2) and make (1) a reverse slider. Nah it used to be like this but others suggested a change because of the large number of repeat sliders in Kiai
01:05:158 - Try this ^^ Seems a little confusing imo :s
01:22:708 (3,4) - Yeah, I am loving reverse sliders today. Changed so it matched the beginning
01:24:208 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ Changed so it matched the beginning
[Ozzy's Extra]
This is just amazing.
00:33:808 (1) - Remove NC? Its literally just one note. http://puu.sh/54Rk
01:19:408 (1) - Sole reason why I failed this diff LOL
just checking~♪
Ozzy's Extra
00:32:683 - Add a note here, probably would need to re-arrange it if you add it.
01:19:408 (1) - and yeah, so many repeats lol
Ozzy's Extra
00:32:683 - Add a note here, probably would need to re-arrange it if you add it.
01:19:408 (1) - and yeah, so many repeats lol
Glad someone sees what I mean LOL xDSaten-san wrote:
just checking~♪
Ozzy's Extra
01:19:408 (1) - and yeah, so many repeats lol
I feel bad being so picky on a map with 100 stars 
. Make sure you really like my suggestion(s) before you apply it. I'm more pointing out strange parts/inconsistencies in the maps.
[easy]
00:05:608 (1,4) - these were awkward because it sounds like they should end on beat 4.5 (red tick before long white tick)
00:19:408 (1) - you did it here, which sounds good.
00:22:408 (3) - you didn't here.
00:25:408 (3,4,5) - again awkward because of bass this time on 1/2 tick. It sounds like they should be 1/2 earlier.
00:43:408 (1,2,3,4) - wtf are you doing with the volume?
00:50:608 (1,2) - slider ticks don't match here. You can either change the BPM (Unsure of rankability, you'll want to change BPM to 133.33 or exactly 450 ms/beat in the osu file) or don't use sliders in this section.
[normal]
00:08:008 (3,4,5) - you mapped this on the 1/2, but you mapped the notes before on 1/1. Pick 1 and map to that.
00:09:508 - felt like a note was needed here. Maybe extend 5 out 1/2?
00:09:658 (1) - end 1/2 earlier
00:28:258 (2) - extend 1/2
00:50:608 (1) - actually decreasing volume helps the awkward slider ticks here too. But I would still recommend not using sliders or change the BPM.
[eldnl]
00:01:408 (3) - I don't like repeating sliders like this (and through the rest of the song). You can't tell when they are going to end, and you could map it just as well by using circles and sliders. Please avoid them in the future, and change them if it's not too much trouble.
00:47:458 (6) - move the 2nd and 2nd to last nodes in 1 grid and it will be a little bit more symmetrical
[insane]
00:05:008 (8) - make this and similar ones after this a new combo and 1/1 slider?
01:19:408 (1) - LAZY LAZY LAZY. Put in a jumpstream or something.
[ozzy's extra]
00:27:133 (3) - this isn't taiko. You can't just make up notes.
00:32:608 - add 2 notes
00:56:608 (1-14) - this isn't taiko. You can't just make up notes.
01:14:608 (1) - this isn't taik-- ah fuck it do what you want.
01:19:408 (1) - all of my hate.
01:26:008 (4) - new combo, should probably re-arrange. (cha chara) (chara cha cha-n) works better than (cha chara cha)(ra cha cha-n)
. Make sure you really like my suggestion(s) before you apply it. I'm more pointing out strange parts/inconsistencies in the maps.[easy]
00:05:608 (1,4) - these were awkward because it sounds like they should end on beat 4.5 (red tick before long white tick)
00:19:408 (1) - you did it here, which sounds good.
00:22:408 (3) - you didn't here.
00:25:408 (3,4,5) - again awkward because of bass this time on 1/2 tick. It sounds like they should be 1/2 earlier.
00:43:408 (1,2,3,4) - wtf are you doing with the volume?
00:50:608 (1,2) - slider ticks don't match here. You can either change the BPM (Unsure of rankability, you'll want to change BPM to 133.33 or exactly 450 ms/beat in the osu file) or don't use sliders in this section.
[normal]
00:08:008 (3,4,5) - you mapped this on the 1/2, but you mapped the notes before on 1/1. Pick 1 and map to that.
00:09:508 - felt like a note was needed here. Maybe extend 5 out 1/2?
00:09:658 (1) - end 1/2 earlier
00:28:258 (2) - extend 1/2
00:50:608 (1) - actually decreasing volume helps the awkward slider ticks here too. But I would still recommend not using sliders or change the BPM.
[eldnl]
00:01:408 (3) - I don't like repeating sliders like this (and through the rest of the song). You can't tell when they are going to end, and you could map it just as well by using circles and sliders. Please avoid them in the future, and change them if it's not too much trouble.
00:47:458 (6) - move the 2nd and 2nd to last nodes in 1 grid and it will be a little bit more symmetrical
[insane]
00:05:008 (8) - make this and similar ones after this a new combo and 1/1 slider?
01:19:408 (1) - LAZY LAZY LAZY. Put in a jumpstream or something.
[ozzy's extra]
00:27:133 (3) - this isn't taiko. You can't just make up notes.
00:32:608 - add 2 notes
00:56:608 (1-14) - this isn't taiko. You can't just make up notes.
01:14:608 (1) - this isn't taik-- ah fuck it do what you want.
01:19:408 (1) - all of my hate.
01:26:008 (4) - new combo, should probably re-arrange. (cha chara) (chara cha cha-n) works better than (cha chara cha)(ra cha cha-n)
Thank ziinziin wrote:
[normal]
00:08:008 (3,4,5) - you mapped this on the 1/2, but you mapped the notes before on 1/1. Pick 1 and map to that. fix
00:09:508 - felt like a note was needed here. Maybe extend 5 out 1/2? Spinner will start here 00:09:508
00:09:658 (1) - end 1/2 earlier ^
00:28:258 (2) - extend 1/2fix
00:50:608 (1) - actually decreasing volume helps the awkward slider ticks here too. But I would still recommend not using sliders or change the BPM.Sorry no change
Download: Hyadain - Hyadain no Joujou Yuujou (TV Size) (Makar8000) [Pereira's Normal].osu
Thanks /o/ziin wrote:
[eldnl]
00:01:408 (3) - I don't like repeating sliders like this (and through the rest of the song). You can't tell when they are going to end, and you could map it just as well by using circles and sliders. Please avoid them in the future, and change them if it's not too much trouble. Fixed, I try to avoid them in the future
00:47:458 (6) - move the 2nd and 2nd to last nodes in 1 grid and it will be a little bit more symmetrical Ok
Download: Hyadain - Hyadain no Joujou Yuujou (TV Size) (Makar8000) [eldnL's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
Thanks for modding, ziin.ziin wrote:
I feel bad being so picky on a map with 100 stars
[easy]
00:05:608 (1,4) - these were awkward because it sounds like they should end on beat 4.5 (red tick before long white tick) Done
00:19:408 (1) - you did it here, which sounds good. Woo
00:22:408 (3) - you didn't here. Fixed
00:25:408 (3,4,5) - again awkward because of bass this time on 1/2 tick. It sounds like they should be 1/2 earlier. Done
00:43:408 (1,2,3,4) - wtf are you doing with the volume? Making it softer to fit the background? ._.
00:50:608 (1,2) - slider ticks don't match here. You can either change the BPM (Unsure of rankability, you'll want to change BPM to 133.33 or exactly 450 ms/beat in the osu file) or don't use sliders in this section. Why can't editor allow use to change tick rate and use 1/3 orz. I'll ask around about rankability before changing this.
[insane]
00:05:008 (8) - make this and similar ones after this a new combo and 1/1 slider? Done
01:19:408 (1) - LAZY LAZY LAZY. Put in a jumpstream or something. But I like this orz
Ozzy hasn't been on in the past couple days so when he does come on I'll be sure to make him check yours and Saten's mods.
You should really spoilerbox your updates xD.Makar8000 wrote:
Updates:SPOILERFrom newest to oldest
Sept 4th - ziin's Mod
Sept 1st - Nyquill's Mod
Aug 29th - Kiiwa's Mod
Aug 21st - Kytoxid's Mod
Aug 21st - Shiirn's Mod
Aug 19th - Raging Bull's mod
Aug 17th - vivere's Mod
Aug 17th - Wiinter's Mod
Aug 17th - HakuNoKaemi's Mod
Aug 17th - arien666's Mod
Aug 12th - Deif's Mod
Aug 9th - tutuhaha's Mod
Aug 4th - Megurine Luka's Mod
Aug 4th - L_P's Mod
Jul 27th - Zelos's Mod
Jul 26th - Leorda's Mod
Jul 25th - Nymph_'s Mod
Jul 25th - Updated BG
Jul 24th - wcx19911123's Mod
Jul 24th - [Shalon]'s Mod
Jul 22nd - Sallad4ever's Mod
Jul 21st - Keyboard's Mod
Jul 21st - Fixed CTB possibility in Extra
Jul 21st - Added Ozzy's Extra
Jul 19th - wmfchris's Mod
Jul 18th - Weezy's Mod
Jul 18th - Moved to pending
Jul 17th - lovhin456's Mod
Jul 17th - _Gezo_'s Mod
Jul 16th - theowest's Mod
Jul 15th - Keilara's Mod
Jul 15th - Magical Pokie's Mod
Jul 15th - Ekaru's Mod
Jul 14th - EnPassant's Mod
Jul 14th - eldnL's in-game Mod
Jul 14th - Daigurenhyourinmaru's Mod
Jul 14th - Raging Bull's Mod
Jul 14th - spboxer3's Mod
Jul 13th - Added Ozzy's Taiko
Jul 13th - Added eldnL's Hard
Jul 13th - Changed Hard to Insane
Jul 13th - TheSeth's Mod
Jul 12th - eldnl's Mod
Jul 12th - gina91189's Mod
Jul 12th - Broetchen8441's Mod
Jul 12th - winber1's Mod
Jul 11th - rEdo's Mod
Jul 10th - Updated BG
Jul 10th - senaya's Mod
Jul 10th - BounceBabe's Mod
Jul 9th - Finished Easy
Jul 9th - Added Pereira's Normal
Jul 9th - Submitted Beatmap with Hard completed
Topic Starter
orz okayNyquill wrote:
You should really spoilerbox your updates xD.Makar8000 wrote:
Updates:SPOILERFrom newest to oldest
Sept 4th - ziin's Mod
Sept 1st - Nyquill's Mod
Aug 29th - Kiiwa's Mod
Aug 21st - Kytoxid's Mod
Aug 21st - Shiirn's Mod
Aug 19th - Raging Bull's mod
Aug 17th - vivere's Mod
Aug 17th - Wiinter's Mod
Aug 17th - HakuNoKaemi's Mod
Aug 17th - arien666's Mod
Aug 12th - Deif's Mod
Aug 9th - tutuhaha's Mod
Aug 4th - Megurine Luka's Mod
Aug 4th - L_P's Mod
Jul 27th - Zelos's Mod
Jul 26th - Leorda's Mod
Jul 25th - Nymph_'s Mod
Jul 25th - Updated BG
Jul 24th - wcx19911123's Mod
Jul 24th - [Shalon]'s Mod
Jul 22nd - Sallad4ever's Mod
Jul 21st - Keyboard's Mod
Jul 21st - Fixed CTB possibility in Extra
Jul 21st - Added Ozzy's Extra
Jul 19th - wmfchris's Mod
Jul 18th - Weezy's Mod
Jul 18th - Moved to pending
Jul 17th - lovhin456's Mod
Jul 17th - _Gezo_'s Mod
Jul 16th - theowest's Mod
Jul 15th - Keilara's Mod
Jul 15th - Magical Pokie's Mod
Jul 15th - Ekaru's Mod
Jul 14th - EnPassant's Mod
Jul 14th - eldnL's in-game Mod
Jul 14th - Daigurenhyourinmaru's Mod
Jul 14th - Raging Bull's Mod
Jul 14th - spboxer3's Mod
Jul 13th - Added Ozzy's Taiko
Jul 13th - Added eldnL's Hard
Jul 13th - Changed Hard to Insane
Jul 13th - TheSeth's Mod
Jul 12th - eldnl's Mod
Jul 12th - gina91189's Mod
Jul 12th - Broetchen8441's Mod
Jul 12th - winber1's Mod
Jul 11th - rEdo's Mod
Jul 10th - Updated BG
Jul 10th - senaya's Mod
Jul 10th - BounceBabe's Mod
Jul 9th - Finished Easy
Jul 9th - Added Pereira's Normal
Jul 9th - Submitted Beatmap with Hard completed
Groundbreaking change, the stream is now two notes longer. Nothing else changed, unfortunately.
Download: Hyadain - Hyadain no Joujou Yuujou (TV Size) (Makar8000) [Ozzy's Extra].osu
Hey there, lets take a look at this.
[Extra]:
[Extra]:
- 00:11:158 (2,3) - These felt really really bad. They look nice, but that's all, they have confusing spacing and play really bad. You should increase the spacing to something you have between 5 and 6. This could be hard to do because of the slider you had before but you should really think of something.
- 01:19:408 (1) - Decrease the speed if possible, it's kinda annoying as it is now. THis is only a suggestion and player's feedback.
- In general, I think you have too many overlaps which play bad. This is just some player's feedback, since they themselves aren't that wrong.
- 00:01:708 (3) - Judging by the clap patterns in this section, I would say you are missing a clap here.
- 00:24:058 (7) - Due to the crazy amount of overlaps, this note could is very hard to see. Since your pattern was a double triangle with increments in spacing, it would be expected to have this note in the same style. Should probably move it further up like you did with 4.
- 00:32:608 - This area felt really empty while there is some nice stuff in the music, maybe add a spinner or something? This is only a suggestion.
- 00:43:408 - 00:50:608 - This whole section felt bad because of constant 1/1 (and occasional 1/2). You were mapping the voice in the section prior to this one, why don't you do that here as well? The notes themselves are fine though, but it just felt "meh" since it doesn't really follow the music.
- 00:57:958 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - I strongly suggest to change this pattern. It plays terrible and is hard to see. It's not wrong by itself, but since you're making a map for players to play, you should probably think of something else with less overlaps.
- Looks fine. A bit too many finishes if you ask me, but nothing you should worry about.
- AR+1, OD-1. Even though AR5 is usually the harder side for normal, the map is much much more readable. OD3 to make circles easier to hit for new players.
- 01:05:158 (1,2,1) - This could be confusing for people who can play normals only. You should probably unstack the circle (2).
- I recommend tickrate 1 for this diff. Since you had lots of pauses between notes, such sliders don't really fit in my opinion, plus the condensed ticks make them silly. Also during the calmer parts they sound bad. Nothing critical, so only a suggestion.
- Maybe remove the video from this diff?
Topic Starter
Sorry for the late reply and thanks for modding ^^lolcubes wrote:
Hey there, lets take a look at this.
[Insane]:[Easy]:
- In general, I think you have too many overlaps which play bad. This is just some player's feedback, since they themselves aren't that wrong. I completely agree with this. Trust me, it used to be a lot worse. I will try to make this better during Kiai before updating
- 00:01:708 (3) - Judging by the clap patterns in this section, I would say you are missing a clap here. ...Oops
- 00:24:058 (7) - Due to the crazy amount of overlaps, this note could is very hard to see. Since your pattern was a double triangle with increments in spacing, it would be expected to have this note in the same style. Should probably move it further up like you did with 4. Done and I tried to make it easier by making the other triangles smaller since that would be a pretty big jump.
- 00:32:608 - This area felt really empty while there is some nice stuff in the music, maybe add a spinner or something? This is only a suggestion. I added something here but I don't know if I want to keep it (going to get some opinions first)
- 00:43:408 - 00:50:608 - This whole section felt bad because of constant 1/1 (and occasional 1/2). You were mapping the voice in the section prior to this one, why don't you do that here as well? The notes themselves are fine though, but it just felt "meh" since it doesn't really follow the music. I understand what you are saying but I want to keep this. I can't really explain why I feel that 1/1 would be good here
- 00:57:958 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - I strongly suggest to change this pattern. It plays terrible and is hard to see. It's not wrong by itself, but since you're making a map for players to play, you should probably think of something else with less overlaps. I completely agree and I was going to change this earlier but I never got around to it. *changes*
[Taiko]:
- I recommend tickrate 1 for this diff. Since you had lots of pauses between notes, such sliders don't really fit in my opinion, plus the condensed ticks make them silly. Also during the calmer parts they sound bad. Nothing critical, so only a suggestion. Done
I would rather not. Most taiko players who are annoyed by the video have no video mod on. I actually like having video on while playing taiko unless it lags me.
- Maybe remove the video from this diff?
That's all I suppose, good luck!
Normal all fixed by Pereira
YOU'RE ALL BABIES YOU KNOW THAT I HOPE YOU ALL DIE OF DYSENTERY.
Download: Hyadain - Hyadain no Joujou Yuujou (TV Size) (Makar8000) [Ozzy's Extra].osuHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
Topic Starter
Updated and just so you know Ozzy ignored the first suggestion and changed the speedy slider to 1.5 instead of 1.65
[Easy]
01:03:208 (5,1) - Anti-jump for Easy is not good idea.
[Ozzy's Taiko]
00:10:558 (2) - don?
00:19:258 (2) - don?
00:57:658 (1) - don?
meow :3
ps. Catch diff updated
ps2. Since this modding post is too weak, self-denied
Download: Hyadain - Hyadain no Joujou Yuujou (TV Size) (Makar8000) [Catch Another1].osu
01:03:208 (5,1) - Anti-jump for Easy is not good idea.
[Ozzy's Taiko]
00:10:558 (2) - don?
00:19:258 (2) - don?
00:57:658 (1) - don?
meow :3
ps. Catch diff updated
ps2. Since this modding post is too weak, self-denied
Download: Hyadain - Hyadain no Joujou Yuujou (TV Size) (Makar8000) [Catch Another1].osu
sorry for the late reply, it was hard to go through the logs since I saved so many times to make sure I got them. plus, like I said, since there was enough chat, some of it disappeared orz
So I put together what you gave me Makar and some of what I found that wasn't included. Here's my mod~
*WARNING! Huge text file~
EDIT: and btw arien, your CtB diff is so troll
orz
EDIT #2: I realized I didn't have any saved log for the easy diff... I even forgot that I modded it u.u
So I put together what you gave me Makar and some of what I found that wasn't included. Here's my mod~
*WARNING! Huge text file~
SPOILER
23:18 <Makar8000> : I wanted your opinion on something
23:18 <Makar8000> : that I am not sure if I like
23:18 <Makar8000> : 00:32:608 (1,2,3,4) -
23:19 <xcherry> : D:
23:19 <Makar8000> : people kept complaining about it being empty
23:19 <Makar8000> : and I didnt want to stream
23:19 <xcherry> : that looks kind of...
23:19 <xcherry> : orz
23:19 <xcherry> : I need to test this D:
23:20 <xcherry> : I've never seen it -w-
23:20 <Makar8000> : yeah
23:20 <Makar8000> : it looks weird
23:20 <Makar8000> : I dont know if I like it
23:20 <Makar8000> : I just kinda
23:20 <Makar8000> : put it there
23:20 <Makar8000> : orz
23:20 <xcherry> : it's just there :3 lol
23:20 <xcherry> : don't worry!
23:20 <xcherry> : let's turn it into something likeable!
23:20 <xcherry> :
23:20 <Makar8000> : lol
23:22 <Makar8000> : I made it so it follows good spacing
23:22 <Makar8000> : and the last slider was in the middle of the slider circle thingy
23:22 <Makar8000> : http://puu.sh/64Qw
23:22 <xcherry> : oh I see I see~
23:22 <xcherry> : sorry
23:22 <xcherry> : but
23:22 <xcherry> : I just had to play
23:22 <xcherry> : >x<
23:23 <Makar8000> : and...?
23:23 <Makar8000> : btw
23:23 *xcherry waits and listens
23:23 <Makar8000> : you need to uh
23:23 <Makar8000> : be extremely honest when modding this diff
23:24 <xcherry> : >.>
23:24 <xcherry> : I will
23:24 <xcherry> : I will pick it down
23:24 <xcherry> : TO THE BONE!
23:24 <xcherry> : except
23:24 <Makar8000> : ohyeaaah
23:24 <xcherry> : it has no bones
23:24 <xcherry> : orz
23:24 <Makar8000> : ohnooooo
23:24 <xcherry> : lol oh you xD
23:25 <xcherry> : okay, lets see...
23:25 <xcherry> : 00:00:808 (3) - this!
23:25 <Makar8000> : yes that
23:25 <Makar8000> : o.o
23:25 <xcherry> : I feel like that should be centered across the two previous notes :c
23:26 <Makar8000> : like
23:26 <Makar8000> : uh
23:26 <Makar8000> : what do you mean
23:26 <xcherry> : wait, I'll show you o:
23:26 <Makar8000> :
23:26 <xcherry> : okay you want it DS'd?
23:27 <xcherry> : doghsfgh
23:27 <xcherry> : it's not centered enough orz
23:27 <xcherry> : okay
23:28 <Makar8000> : DS'd?
23:28 <Makar8000> : o.o?
23:28 <xcherry> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/152844 like so
23:28 <xcherry> : xD
23:28 <xcherry> : distance snapped silly
23:28 <Makar8000> : I like it
23:28 *Makar8000 changes
23:28 <xcherry> : omg wow I did something right ;_;
23:29 <xcherry> : \^^/
one hour later... huurrr.
00:30 <xcherry> : okay, time to spew mod stuff
00:30 <Makar8000> : okay
00:30 <Makar8000> : fixed the first thing
00:30 <Makar8000> : had to make the first jump bigger so the spacing would be good
00:30 <Makar8000> : but not much bigger
00:30 <xcherry> : okay, fine with me~
00:31 <xcherry> : fuck, this is so annoying orz ><
00:31 <xcherry> : I hate how
00:31 <xcherry> : I'm left handed so the mouse is on the left side
00:31 <xcherry> : and so when I copy/paste something
00:31 <xcherry> : it's like
00:31 <xcherry> : orz
00:32 <xcherry> : I can't use my right hand to do that, I don't know why x.x
00:32 <xcherry> : anyways
00:32 <xcherry> : 00:02:308 (6) - this here
00:32 <Makar8000> : that sucks orz
00:32 <Makar8000> : at least you have a CTRL on the right
00:32 <xcherry> : o.o
00:32 <Makar8000> : of the keyboard to use
00:32 <xcherry> : ...
00:32 <xcherry> : right :c
00:32 *xcherry secretly facepalms
00:32 <Makar8000> : okay so that there
00:32 <xcherry> : yes, if you could stack it with... (4) of the previous combo
00:32 <xcherry> : somehow
00:33 <xcherry> : or
00:33 <xcherry> : even better
00:33 <Makar8000> : o.o
00:33 <Makar8000> : I already did though
00:33 <xcherry> : 00:01:408 (1,2,3,4,5) -
00:33 <xcherry> : D:
00:33 <xcherry> : oh
00:33 <xcherry> : orz
00:33 <Makar8000> : when changing your first suggestion
00:33 <Makar8000> : lol
00:33 <xcherry> : okay, lol you're one step ahead :3
00:33 <Makar8000> : thats why I had to make the jump a bit bigger
00:33 <Makar8000> : :p
00:33 <Makar8000> : so I could move (4)
00:33 <xcherry> : oh I thought you were talking about the first 2 notes x.x
00:34 <Makar8000> : I was
00:34 <xcherry> : o.o;
00:34 <Makar8000> : (2) of the first combo had to be moved so the (3) slider could be moved down and still have 1.0 spacing
00:34 <Makar8000> : and so (4) can stack on (6) of the next combo
00:34 <xcherry> : okay, makes sense~
00:35 <xcherry> : 00:03:958 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - you're okay with this?
00:35 <xcherry> : or are you unhappy with it?
00:36 <Makar8000> : I am happy that it is much better than it was
00:36 <Makar8000> : and I do like it
00:36 <xcherry> : okay yeah it plays well
00:37 <xcherry> : 00:04:858 (7,1) - the transition here can throw people off
00:37 <xcherry> : too bad you can't place it in the middle Q.Q
00:37 <Makar8000> : lol sorry
00:37 <Makar8000> : uh
00:37 <Makar8000> : do a /savelog
00:37 <Makar8000> : osu crashed
00:37 <xcherry> : o.o
00:37 <Makar8000> : so now I dont have proof of irc modding
00:38 <xcherry> : I save logs of everything important xD
00:38 <Makar8000> : just send the .txt file later lol
00:38 <xcherry> : I just hope that our previous chat is saved
00:38 <Makar8000> : okay
00:38 <Makar8000> : previous chat?
00:38 <xcherry> : yeah
00:38 <xcherry> : on the easy
00:38 <xcherry> : ._.
00:38 *Makar8000 has had window open all day
00:38 <Makar8000> : nope
00:38 <Makar8000> : orz
00:38 <xcherry> : yeah exactly
00:38 <xcherry> : what I mean is
00:38 <xcherry> : you know how we talk a lot?
00:38 <xcherry> : well
00:38 <Makar8000> : oh
00:38 <xcherry> : messages can start disappearing
00:38 <xcherry> : >:
00:39 <xcherry> : if there's a lot
00:39 <Makar8000> : I think on PMs the messages dont dissapear
00:39 <xcherry> : they do
00:39 <xcherry> : D:
00:39 <Makar8000> : o.o
00:39 <Makar8000> : that uh
00:39 <Makar8000> : sucks
00:39 <xcherry> : I've had it happen ;_;
00:39 <Makar8000> : ._.
00:39 <xcherry> : okay, well I think it'll be saved
00:39 <xcherry> : it was like, 5 hours ago
00:39 <xcherry> : or something
00:39 <xcherry> : x.x
00:39 <Makar8000> : okay uh
00:39 <Makar8000> : one min while all these maps process again
00:39 <xcherry> : okay
00:39 <xcherry> : http://puu.sh/651V
00:40 <xcherry> : just putting that there
00:40 <xcherry> : it's what I said when you crashed I think
00:40 <Makar8000> : uh
00:40 <Makar8000> : just paste the note thing again
00:40 <xcherry> : orz
00:40 <Makar8000> : im lazy
00:40 <xcherry> : >.>
00:40 <xcherry> : 00:04:858 (7,1) - I said about this
00:40 <Makar8000> : oh
00:40 <Makar8000> : uhh
00:40 <Makar8000> : yeah
00:41 <xcherry> : I wish you could like
00:41 <Makar8000> : that was debated a lot too
00:41 <xcherry> : yeah :c
00:41 <Makar8000> : and discused with ziin
00:41 <xcherry> : so what happened?
00:41 <Makar8000> : the way it is now is good
00:41 <xcherry> : the new combo makes up for it imo
00:41 <Makar8000> : yeah
00:41 <xcherry> : but like... I still wish it could be placed in the center Q.Q
00:42 <Makar8000> : ig iy esd plsvrf in the
00:42 <Makar8000> : ...
00:42 <Makar8000> : if it was placed in the center*
00:42 <Makar8000> : then
00:42 <Makar8000> : the pattern would look weird
00:42 <Makar8000> : even if you adjusted the slider
00:43 <xcherry> : lol what.
00:43 <xcherry> : that typo up there
00:43 <xcherry> : is like
00:43 <xcherry> : what xD
00:43 <xcherry> : and okay, it's fine
00:43 <Makar8000> : shift left hand one key to the right
00:43 <Makar8000> : :p
00:44 <xcherry> : I know xD it's so silly :3
00:45 <xcherry> : shit
00:45 <xcherry> : I love how you've stacked everything 0_9
00:45 <xcherry> : 0_0*
00:45 <Makar8000> : that is a bad thing
00:45 <Makar8000> : there are to many stacks
00:45 <Makar8000> : >>>
00:45 <xcherry> : D:
00:45 <Makar8000> : f;aojfa
00:46 <xcherry> : well... at least it looks neat = =
00:46 <Makar8000> : yeah lol
00:46 <Makar8000> : before i mapped I wa slike
00:46 <Makar8000> : "you know I dont use very many stacks sooo"
00:46 <xcherry> : xD
00:46 <xcherry> : btw, what does irc stand for?
00:46 <xcherry> : I know
00:46 *xcherry facepalms
00:47 <Makar8000> : uh
00:47 <Makar8000> : internet relay chat
00:47 <xcherry> : oh
00:47 <xcherry> : wow
00:47 <xcherry> : didn't know that
00:47 <Makar8000> : its like a protocol used way back when the internet was very very limited to communicate
00:47 <Makar8000> : we are connected atm through an IRC server :p
00:48 <xcherry> : you sure know your stuff o.o
00:48 <Makar8000> : lol
00:48 <Makar8000> : I used to host an IRC server
00:48 <Makar8000> : and I read a book one time that was made like
00:48 <Makar8000> : when internet was new
00:48 <Makar8000> : and it had so much information about old stuff
00:48 <Makar8000> : it was interesting o.o
00:49 <xcherry> : well at least you found interest in something and actually read o:
00:49 <Makar8000> : lol ikr
00:49 <xcherry> : it's still reading ^^;
00:49 <Makar8000> : thats rare
00:49 <xcherry> : xD
00:49 <xcherry> : yeah very true xD
00:49 <xcherry> : this generation is not reading enough :c
00:50 <xcherry> : (and don't worry, I'm still looking at your map despite idle chit chat)
00:50 <Makar8000> : lol okay
00:50 <Makar8000> : I'm like talking to 4 peolpe at once
00:50 <Makar8000> : orz
00:50 <xcherry> : o.o;
00:52 <xcherry> : 00:21:808 (1,2,3,4) - well I think this can be adjusted
00:52 <Makar8000> : care to suggest anything?
00:53 <Makar8000> : I think its fine atm but if you ahve something then
00:53 <xcherry> : yeah, gimme a moment, I need to fumble around with this :<
00:53 <Makar8000> : alright
00:53 <xcherry> : it's distance snapped... orz
00:54 <Makar8000> : dont try to make it perfect because I might not like it
00:54 <xcherry> : okay o.o;
00:54 <xcherry> : so that throws one idea out the door orz
00:55 <xcherry> : even if you did place (3) between the two sliders perfectly, wouldn't it be okay?
00:55 <xcherry> : even though ds doesn't allow it orz
00:55 <Makar8000> : no because of the timing distance between (3) and (4)
00:55 <Makar8000> : I could adjust the slider directions
00:55 <Makar8000> : but then it would look ugly
00:56 <xcherry> : yeah okay okay I understand orz
00:56 <Makar8000> : wait
00:56 <Makar8000> : actually
00:56 <Makar8000> : hold on
00:56 *xcherry holds on to air
00:57 <Makar8000> : http://puu.sh/654r lol yeah I dont liek this
00:57 <Makar8000> : orz
00:57 <xcherry> : fine by me, it's your map o.ob
00:58 <xcherry> : 00:23:908 (6,7) - could you do something with the volume here maybe?
00:58 <Makar8000> : its soft o.o
00:58 <xcherry> : = =
00:58 <Makar8000> : you mean make it louder or what?
00:58 <xcherry> : go to (6)
00:58 <xcherry> : play in 25%
00:58 <Makar8000> : oic
00:59 <Makar8000> : that
00:59 <xcherry> : is a nono?
00:59 <Makar8000> : sounds like an awesome idea actually
00:59 <Makar8000> : hold on
00:59 *Makar8000 tests something
00:59 <xcherry> : you know, I'm going to keep doing what you do
00:59 <Makar8000> : omg
00:59 <Makar8000> : I love this
00:59 <Makar8000> : okay
01:00 <Makar8000> : done
01:00 <xcherry> : o.o
01:00 <xcherry> : okay :3
01:00 <xcherry> : 00:24:208 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ...you know how much it returns to the center orz
01:01 <Makar8000> : what are you suggesting o.o
01:01 <xcherry> : trying to find a creative way to fix this orz
01:02 <xcherry> : I'm modding not to find errors
01:02 <xcherry> : more like
01:02 <xcherry> : to help you actually enjoy your own map ._.
01:02 <Makar8000> : yeah thats what I want
01:02 <xcherry> : exactly = =
01:02 <Makar8000> : there are no realy errors
01:02 <Makar8000> : real*
01:02 <Makar8000> : its just playability/flow
01:02 <xcherry> : for a second I thought you had spelled really wrong
01:02 <xcherry> : lol yes, I'm trying to find some ways to make it less repetitive
01:04 <xcherry> : 00:24:208 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - are the notes around here all ds'd?
01:05 <xcherry> : because I'm fixing them around
01:05 <xcherry> : and I can't remember ._.
01:06 <Makar8000> : yes
01:06 <Makar8000> : to 2.0
01:06 <xcherry> : really? I didn't think it was
01:06 <xcherry> : oh o.o
01:06 <xcherry> : okay
01:07 <Makar8000> : its 2.0 because of the 0.5 slider velocity
01:07 <Makar8000> : except
01:07 <Makar8000> : 00:24:808 (3) - the note after this is not distance snapped
01:07 <Makar8000> : because I wanted the spacing to be based on the start of the short slider instead of the end of it
01:07 <xcherry> : okay so this whole section is ds'd by 2.0?
01:07 <Makar8000> : yeah
01:07 <xcherry> : okay that makes sense
01:08 <xcherry> : no wonder when I was trying to do stuff it looked strange
01:09 <Makar8000> : btw whenver you get there
01:09 <Makar8000> : 00:30:958 (2,3,4,5) -
01:09 <Makar8000> : I need a suggestion to fix this
01:09 <xcherry> : lol okay
01:11 <xcherry> : 00:26:458 (9,1) - is this ds'd as well?
01:11 <xcherry> : and by which spacing?
01:11 <Makar8000> : the slider velocity changes there
01:12 <Makar8000> : back to 1.0
01:12 <Makar8000> : so
01:12 <Makar8000> : the distance that the editor gives you
01:12 <Makar8000> : may be weird
01:12 <Makar8000> : and you will just have to go on looks really
01:13 <xcherry> : okay o.o
01:13 <xcherry> : I think I got something
01:13 <xcherry> : not sure if you'll like it or not though
01:13 <xcherry> : I used ds: 2.0
01:13 <Makar8000> : ohyeaa
01:13 <xcherry> : lol
01:14 <xcherry> : okay, so I'll send them in screenshots, maybe 3 notes at a time
01:14 <Makar8000> : uh ok
01:14 <xcherry> : orz what else am I supposed to do = =
01:14 <Makar8000> : o.o?
01:14 <xcherry> : lol nevermind xD
01:14 <xcherry> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/152882
01:15 <xcherry> : omg orz
01:15 <Makar8000> : lol @ my message
01:15 <xcherry> : it's like
01:15 <xcherry> : xD
01:15 <xcherry> : preventing me from uploading
01:15 <xcherry> : so
01:15 <xcherry> : wait like a few seconds orz
01:15 <Makar8000> : wait uh
01:15 <Makar8000> : I dont see
01:15 <Makar8000> : what you did
01:15 <xcherry> : you don't o.o;
01:15 <Makar8000> : select the notes so I can tell
01:15 <xcherry> : ._.
01:16 <xcherry> : okay, going over this again xD
01:16 <Makar8000> : wait
01:16 <xcherry> : ...
01:16 <Makar8000> : did you change the triangle jump?
01:16 <Makar8000> : D:
01:16 <xcherry> : D:
01:16 <xcherry> : no
01:16 <xcherry> : o.o;
01:16 <Makar8000> : its bigger
01:16 <xcherry> : what? D:
01:16 <xcherry> : I never changed it
01:16 <xcherry> : that's how it is = =
01:16 <Makar8000> : oh
01:16 <xcherry> : it looks big because all the notes are there >.>
01:17 <xcherry> : anyways http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/152885
01:17 <xcherry> : gotta wait for the next...
01:17 <xcherry> : orz
01:17 <Makar8000> : uh
01:17 <Makar8000> : the first screenshot
01:18 <Makar8000> : (2) might make poeple think its still a 1/2 jump
01:18 <xcherry> : ._.
01:19 <Makar8000> : second screenshot looks good
01:19 <Makar8000> : send the third?
01:19 <xcherry> : dude
01:19 <xcherry> : I have to wait :c
01:19 <Makar8000> : o.o?
01:19 <xcherry> : >.>
01:19 <Makar8000> : why not just puush?
01:19 <xcherry> : cause my puush is getting full >:
01:19 <xcherry> : okay fine
01:20 <Makar8000> : ...
01:20 <Makar8000> : orz
01:20 <Makar8000> : then clean it
01:20 <Makar8000> : lol
01:20 <xcherry> : >.>
01:20 <Makar8000> : this is a one time thing so you can just delete it afterward
01:20 <xcherry> : right okay okay
01:20 <xcherry> : here: http://puu.sh/657A
01:21 <xcherry> : I feel this is the best I can come up with :c
01:21 <xcherry> : plus I'm not very experienced, so... orz
01:21 <Makar8000> : hmm
01:21 <Makar8000> : 00:26:158 (7,8,9,1) - does this play well with it switched like that?
01:21 <Makar8000> : it seems weird
01:22 <xcherry> : I tried several times
01:22 <xcherry> : I'll try again
01:23 <xcherry> : 00:26:458 (9,1) - this would play weird though
01:23 <xcherry> : unless you changed (1)
01:23 <Makar8000> : yeah thats what I meant
01:23 <Makar8000> : uhh
01:23 <Makar8000> : I dont want to copy the previous pattern that was like this either
01:23 <Makar8000> : 00:21:358 (4,5,6,1) -
01:24 <xcherry> : it's not exactly the same :c
01:24 <Makar8000> : well I mean
01:24 <Makar8000> : where else would (1) go
01:24 <Makar8000> : I couldnt leave it like that because its weird ._.
01:25 <xcherry> : you could stack (1) on (7)
01:25 <xcherry> : the ds allows it
01:25 <Makar8000> : I use to many of those as it is
01:25 <Makar8000> : :s
01:25 <xcherry> : otherwise you'd have to move (1) somewhere and change the distance of the next combo
01:26 <xcherry> : ._.
01:27 <xcherry> : all I can think of is: http://puu.sh/658x
01:27 <xcherry> : but then you'll have to change spacing
01:27 <xcherry> : cause (2) and (1) are now very far apart
01:27 <Makar8000> : yeah but I'm not worried about that
01:27 <Makar8000> : its just
01:27 <Makar8000> : overall in the map
01:27 <Makar8000> : I use that kind of mouse flow too much
01:27 <Makar8000> : ._.
01:28 <xcherry> : yeah yeah I know what you mean...
01:28 <xcherry> : sorry, I tried ;_;
01:28 <Makar8000> : its okay ._.
01:29 <xcherry> : 00:27:958 (4,5,6,7) - I can't move any of this otherwise the distance will be fucked orz
01:31 <xcherry> : unless
01:31 <xcherry> : 00:27:208 (3,4,5,6,7) - can you stack (6) at the end of the slider of (3)?
01:31 <xcherry> : except the distance between (7)... x.x
01:32 <Makar8000> : I can
01:32 <Makar8000> : then horizontal flip (7) and move stuff around
01:32 <xcherry> : that... could work o:
01:32 <Makar8000> : hmm
01:32 <xcherry> : 00:30:658 (1,2,3,4,5) - working on this~
01:33 <Makar8000> : but what about symmetry
01:33 <xcherry> : >.>
01:33 <Makar8000> : to much stuff on the left
01:33 <xcherry> : it's going towards the right orz
01:33 <xcherry> : awaaayyy from the left :c
01:33 <Makar8000> : no I mean the slider puts more weight on the left side
01:33 <xcherry> : okay fine >:
01:33 <Makar8000> : if I were to move (7) so it starts there
01:33 <Makar8000> : D: dont be sad
01:34 <Makar8000> : I'm still thinking
01:34 <Makar8000> : orz
01:34 <xcherry> : T^T
01:34 <Makar8000> : D:
01:34 <xcherry> : it's okay -w-
01:35 <xcherry> : um
01:35 <xcherry> : lolwhat
01:35 <xcherry> : some random person
01:35 <xcherry> : is talking to me o.o;
01:35 <Makar8000> : o.o
01:35 <Makar8000> : who?
01:35 <xcherry> : LOL
01:35 <xcherry> : mod request? .-.
01:35 <xcherry> : some person from Taiwan
01:35 <xcherry> : wonder why they're asking me o.o
01:35 <Makar8000> : lol
01:36 <Makar8000> : who is though
01:36 <xcherry> : 12BARRY21 o.o;
01:37 <Makar8000> : sounds familiar
01:37 <Makar8000> : o.o
01:37 <xcherry> : o:
01:37 <xcherry> : poor english
01:37 <xcherry> : >w<
01:38 <xcherry> : why do you pass your curse to me orz
01:38 <Makar8000> : I sowwy :<
01:38 <xcherry> : lol it's okay xD
01:38 <xcherry> : It's expected now orz
01:39 <xcherry> : ._. http://puu.sh/65aj
01:39 <Makar8000> : ._.
01:39 <xcherry> : except
01:39 <xcherry> : better spacing
01:39 <Makar8000> : what about sliders
01:39 <xcherry> : wait, you didn't want that fixed? o.o
01:40 <Makar8000> : wait
01:40 <Makar8000> : 00:30:958 (2,3,4,5) - this?
01:40 <Makar8000> : what about useing 2 sliders instead?
01:40 <Makar8000> : like 00:32:008 (7,8) - or osmething
01:41 <xcherry> : yeah , that could work
01:41 <xcherry> : I'll try seeing what I can do here o.o
01:42 <xcherry> : like this maybe? http://puu.sh/65aH
01:43 <Makar8000> : hmm
01:43 <Makar8000> : going from (1) to (2) and back though
01:44 <Makar8000> : because if it was rotated 90 degrees or something
01:44 <Makar8000> : er
01:44 <Makar8000> : then it would be hard to fix the stuff after it so it also plays good
01:45 <Makar8000> : uhhhhhhhhhhh
01:46 <xcherry> : lol I'm still working on it all >w<
01:46 <Makar8000> : okay ill just wait until you do something then lol
01:46 <Makar8000> : http://puu.sh/65b3 lazy way which I will go with if you cant think of anything else :p
01:47 <xcherry> : lol you're so lazy xD
01:47 <Makar8000> : ikr :3
01:47 <xcherry> : that's right
01:47 <xcherry> : you be proud of it
01:47 <xcherry> : xD
01:47 <Makar8000> : xD
01:47 <Makar8000> : atm
01:47 <Makar8000> : I am really tired
01:47 <Makar8000> : so after this
01:48 <Makar8000> : zzzz
01:48 <Makar8000> : finish tomorrow
01:48 <xcherry> : o.o;
01:48 <xcherry> : okay orz
01:49 <xcherry> : okay here
01:49 <xcherry> : http://puu.sh/65bp
01:49 <xcherry> : http://puu.sh/65bt
01:49 <xcherry> : need to stack that 4 orzorzorz
01:49 <xcherry> : it's so hard to do >:
01:51 <Makar8000> : hmmmm
01:51 *Makar8000 falls asleep
01:51 <xcherry> : D:
01:51 <xcherry> : okay orz
01:51 <xcherry> : night >:
01:51 <Makar8000> : drtyfgkuhlijok
01:51 <xcherry> : and I realized I never did my hw
01:51 <xcherry> : adoihgodughd
01:51 <xcherry> : so like, this is going to be hard to put together
01:51 <xcherry> : so many random breaks and stuff orz
01:51 <Makar8000> : yeah uh
01:52 <Makar8000> : I'm going to go with
01:52 <Makar8000> : "yeah we uh lost the log soo uhhh just trust us"
01:52 <xcherry> : LOL
01:52 <xcherry> : it would take a long time to find everything =w=
01:52 <Makar8000> : yeah
01:53 <xcherry> : 00:30:658 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so consider this so I don't forget tomorrow
01:53 <Makar8000> : uh huh
01:53 <xcherry> : 35% through...
01:53 <xcherry> : I feel accomplished. >.>
01:53 <Makar8000> : how di dyou get the percentage o.o
01:54 <xcherry> : at the bottom o.o;
01:54 <Makar8000> : calculated it yourself or does it give it to you in the editor
01:54 <Makar8000> : .........
01:54 <xcherry> : >.>
01:54 *Makar8000 slaps self
01:54 <xcherry> : xD
01:54 <Makar8000> : I serously
01:54 <Makar8000> : had no idea that was there
01:54 <xcherry> : ...are you serious ._.
01:54 <Makar8000> : and I always wondered why people took the time to calculate the percentages
01:54 <Makar8000> : ._.
01:54 <xcherry> : oh wow...
01:54 <xcherry> : you
01:54 <xcherry> : are smart
01:54 <xcherry> : o.ob
01:55 <Makar8000> : orz
01:55 <Makar8000> : well
01:55 <Makar8000> : good night then
01:55 <xcherry> : lol okay, night c:
23:18 <Makar8000> : that I am not sure if I like
23:18 <Makar8000> : 00:32:608 (1,2,3,4) -
23:19 <xcherry> : D:
23:19 <Makar8000> : people kept complaining about it being empty
23:19 <Makar8000> : and I didnt want to stream
23:19 <xcherry> : that looks kind of...
23:19 <xcherry> : orz
23:19 <xcherry> : I need to test this D:
23:20 <xcherry> : I've never seen it -w-
23:20 <Makar8000> : yeah
23:20 <Makar8000> : it looks weird
23:20 <Makar8000> : I dont know if I like it
23:20 <Makar8000> : I just kinda
23:20 <Makar8000> : put it there
23:20 <Makar8000> : orz
23:20 <xcherry> : it's just there :3 lol
23:20 <xcherry> : don't worry!
23:20 <xcherry> : let's turn it into something likeable!
23:20 <xcherry> :
23:20 <Makar8000> : lol
23:22 <Makar8000> : I made it so it follows good spacing
23:22 <Makar8000> : and the last slider was in the middle of the slider circle thingy
23:22 <Makar8000> : http://puu.sh/64Qw
23:22 <xcherry> : oh I see I see~
23:22 <xcherry> : sorry
23:22 <xcherry> : but
23:22 <xcherry> : I just had to play
23:22 <xcherry> : >x<
23:23 <Makar8000> : and...?
23:23 <Makar8000> : btw
23:23 *xcherry waits and listens
23:23 <Makar8000> : you need to uh
23:23 <Makar8000> : be extremely honest when modding this diff
23:24 <xcherry> : >.>
23:24 <xcherry> : I will
23:24 <xcherry> : I will pick it down
23:24 <xcherry> : TO THE BONE!
23:24 <xcherry> : except
23:24 <Makar8000> : ohyeaaah
23:24 <xcherry> : it has no bones
23:24 <xcherry> : orz
23:24 <Makar8000> : ohnooooo
23:24 <xcherry> : lol oh you xD
23:25 <xcherry> : okay, lets see...
23:25 <xcherry> : 00:00:808 (3) - this!
23:25 <Makar8000> : yes that
23:25 <Makar8000> : o.o
23:25 <xcherry> : I feel like that should be centered across the two previous notes :c
23:26 <Makar8000> : like
23:26 <Makar8000> : uh
23:26 <Makar8000> : what do you mean
23:26 <xcherry> : wait, I'll show you o:
23:26 <Makar8000> :
23:26 <xcherry> : okay you want it DS'd?
23:27 <xcherry> : doghsfgh
23:27 <xcherry> : it's not centered enough orz
23:27 <xcherry> : okay
23:28 <Makar8000> : DS'd?
23:28 <Makar8000> : o.o?
23:28 <xcherry> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/152844 like so
23:28 <xcherry> : xD
23:28 <xcherry> : distance snapped silly
23:28 <Makar8000> : I like it
23:28 *Makar8000 changes
23:28 <xcherry> : omg wow I did something right ;_;
23:29 <xcherry> : \^^/
one hour later... huurrr.
00:30 <xcherry> : okay, time to spew mod stuff
00:30 <Makar8000> : okay
00:30 <Makar8000> : fixed the first thing
00:30 <Makar8000> : had to make the first jump bigger so the spacing would be good
00:30 <Makar8000> : but not much bigger
00:30 <xcherry> : okay, fine with me~
00:31 <xcherry> : fuck, this is so annoying orz ><
00:31 <xcherry> : I hate how
00:31 <xcherry> : I'm left handed so the mouse is on the left side
00:31 <xcherry> : and so when I copy/paste something
00:31 <xcherry> : it's like
00:31 <xcherry> : orz
00:32 <xcherry> : I can't use my right hand to do that, I don't know why x.x
00:32 <xcherry> : anyways
00:32 <xcherry> : 00:02:308 (6) - this here
00:32 <Makar8000> : that sucks orz
00:32 <Makar8000> : at least you have a CTRL on the right
00:32 <xcherry> : o.o
00:32 <Makar8000> : of the keyboard to use
00:32 <xcherry> : ...
00:32 <xcherry> : right :c
00:32 *xcherry secretly facepalms
00:32 <Makar8000> : okay so that there
00:32 <xcherry> : yes, if you could stack it with... (4) of the previous combo
00:32 <xcherry> : somehow
00:33 <xcherry> : or
00:33 <xcherry> : even better
00:33 <Makar8000> : o.o
00:33 <Makar8000> : I already did though
00:33 <xcherry> : 00:01:408 (1,2,3,4,5) -
00:33 <xcherry> : D:
00:33 <xcherry> : oh
00:33 <xcherry> : orz
00:33 <Makar8000> : when changing your first suggestion
00:33 <Makar8000> : lol
00:33 <xcherry> : okay, lol you're one step ahead :3
00:33 <Makar8000> : thats why I had to make the jump a bit bigger
00:33 <Makar8000> : :p
00:33 <Makar8000> : so I could move (4)
00:33 <xcherry> : oh I thought you were talking about the first 2 notes x.x
00:34 <Makar8000> : I was
00:34 <xcherry> : o.o;
00:34 <Makar8000> : (2) of the first combo had to be moved so the (3) slider could be moved down and still have 1.0 spacing
00:34 <Makar8000> : and so (4) can stack on (6) of the next combo
00:34 <xcherry> : okay, makes sense~
00:35 <xcherry> : 00:03:958 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - you're okay with this?
00:35 <xcherry> : or are you unhappy with it?
00:36 <Makar8000> : I am happy that it is much better than it was
00:36 <Makar8000> : and I do like it
00:36 <xcherry> : okay yeah it plays well
00:37 <xcherry> : 00:04:858 (7,1) - the transition here can throw people off
00:37 <xcherry> : too bad you can't place it in the middle Q.Q
00:37 <Makar8000> : lol sorry
00:37 <Makar8000> : uh
00:37 <Makar8000> : do a /savelog
00:37 <Makar8000> : osu crashed
00:37 <xcherry> : o.o
00:37 <Makar8000> : so now I dont have proof of irc modding
00:38 <xcherry> : I save logs of everything important xD
00:38 <Makar8000> : just send the .txt file later lol
00:38 <xcherry> : I just hope that our previous chat is saved
00:38 <Makar8000> : okay
00:38 <Makar8000> : previous chat?
00:38 <xcherry> : yeah
00:38 <xcherry> : on the easy
00:38 <xcherry> : ._.
00:38 *Makar8000 has had window open all day
00:38 <Makar8000> : nope
00:38 <Makar8000> : orz
00:38 <xcherry> : yeah exactly
00:38 <xcherry> : what I mean is
00:38 <xcherry> : you know how we talk a lot?
00:38 <xcherry> : well
00:38 <Makar8000> : oh
00:38 <xcherry> : messages can start disappearing
00:38 <xcherry> : >:
00:39 <xcherry> : if there's a lot
00:39 <Makar8000> : I think on PMs the messages dont dissapear
00:39 <xcherry> : they do
00:39 <xcherry> : D:
00:39 <Makar8000> : o.o
00:39 <Makar8000> : that uh
00:39 <Makar8000> : sucks
00:39 <xcherry> : I've had it happen ;_;
00:39 <Makar8000> : ._.
00:39 <xcherry> : okay, well I think it'll be saved
00:39 <xcherry> : it was like, 5 hours ago
00:39 <xcherry> : or something
00:39 <xcherry> : x.x
00:39 <Makar8000> : okay uh
00:39 <Makar8000> : one min while all these maps process again
00:39 <xcherry> : okay
00:39 <xcherry> : http://puu.sh/651V
00:40 <xcherry> : just putting that there
00:40 <xcherry> : it's what I said when you crashed I think
00:40 <Makar8000> : uh
00:40 <Makar8000> : just paste the note thing again
00:40 <xcherry> : orz
00:40 <Makar8000> : im lazy
00:40 <xcherry> : >.>
00:40 <xcherry> : 00:04:858 (7,1) - I said about this
00:40 <Makar8000> : oh
00:40 <Makar8000> : uhh
00:40 <Makar8000> : yeah
00:41 <xcherry> : I wish you could like
00:41 <Makar8000> : that was debated a lot too
00:41 <xcherry> : yeah :c
00:41 <Makar8000> : and discused with ziin
00:41 <xcherry> : so what happened?
00:41 <Makar8000> : the way it is now is good
00:41 <xcherry> : the new combo makes up for it imo
00:41 <Makar8000> : yeah
00:41 <xcherry> : but like... I still wish it could be placed in the center Q.Q
00:42 <Makar8000> : ig iy esd plsvrf in the
00:42 <Makar8000> : ...
00:42 <Makar8000> : if it was placed in the center*
00:42 <Makar8000> : then
00:42 <Makar8000> : the pattern would look weird
00:42 <Makar8000> : even if you adjusted the slider
00:43 <xcherry> : lol what.
00:43 <xcherry> : that typo up there
00:43 <xcherry> : is like
00:43 <xcherry> : what xD
00:43 <xcherry> : and okay, it's fine
00:43 <Makar8000> : shift left hand one key to the right
00:43 <Makar8000> : :p
00:44 <xcherry> : I know xD it's so silly :3
00:45 <xcherry> : shit
00:45 <xcherry> : I love how you've stacked everything 0_9
00:45 <xcherry> : 0_0*
00:45 <Makar8000> : that is a bad thing
00:45 <Makar8000> : there are to many stacks
00:45 <Makar8000> : >>>
00:45 <xcherry> : D:
00:45 <Makar8000> : f;aojfa
00:46 <xcherry> : well... at least it looks neat = =
00:46 <Makar8000> : yeah lol
00:46 <Makar8000> : before i mapped I wa slike
00:46 <Makar8000> : "you know I dont use very many stacks sooo"
00:46 <xcherry> : xD
00:46 <xcherry> : btw, what does irc stand for?
00:46 <xcherry> : I know
00:46 *xcherry facepalms
00:47 <Makar8000> : uh
00:47 <Makar8000> : internet relay chat
00:47 <xcherry> : oh
00:47 <xcherry> : wow
00:47 <xcherry> : didn't know that
00:47 <Makar8000> : its like a protocol used way back when the internet was very very limited to communicate
00:47 <Makar8000> : we are connected atm through an IRC server :p
00:48 <xcherry> : you sure know your stuff o.o
00:48 <Makar8000> : lol
00:48 <Makar8000> : I used to host an IRC server
00:48 <Makar8000> : and I read a book one time that was made like
00:48 <Makar8000> : when internet was new
00:48 <Makar8000> : and it had so much information about old stuff
00:48 <Makar8000> : it was interesting o.o
00:49 <xcherry> : well at least you found interest in something and actually read o:
00:49 <Makar8000> : lol ikr
00:49 <xcherry> : it's still reading ^^;
00:49 <Makar8000> : thats rare
00:49 <xcherry> : xD
00:49 <xcherry> : yeah very true xD
00:49 <xcherry> : this generation is not reading enough :c
00:50 <xcherry> : (and don't worry, I'm still looking at your map despite idle chit chat)
00:50 <Makar8000> : lol okay
00:50 <Makar8000> : I'm like talking to 4 peolpe at once
00:50 <Makar8000> : orz
00:50 <xcherry> : o.o;
00:52 <xcherry> : 00:21:808 (1,2,3,4) - well I think this can be adjusted
00:52 <Makar8000> : care to suggest anything?
00:53 <Makar8000> : I think its fine atm but if you ahve something then
00:53 <xcherry> : yeah, gimme a moment, I need to fumble around with this :<
00:53 <Makar8000> : alright
00:53 <xcherry> : it's distance snapped... orz
00:54 <Makar8000> : dont try to make it perfect because I might not like it
00:54 <xcherry> : okay o.o;
00:54 <xcherry> : so that throws one idea out the door orz
00:55 <xcherry> : even if you did place (3) between the two sliders perfectly, wouldn't it be okay?
00:55 <xcherry> : even though ds doesn't allow it orz
00:55 <Makar8000> : no because of the timing distance between (3) and (4)
00:55 <Makar8000> : I could adjust the slider directions
00:55 <Makar8000> : but then it would look ugly
00:56 <xcherry> : yeah okay okay I understand orz
00:56 <Makar8000> : wait
00:56 <Makar8000> : actually
00:56 <Makar8000> : hold on
00:56 *xcherry holds on to air
00:57 <Makar8000> : http://puu.sh/654r lol yeah I dont liek this
00:57 <Makar8000> : orz
00:57 <xcherry> : fine by me, it's your map o.ob
00:58 <xcherry> : 00:23:908 (6,7) - could you do something with the volume here maybe?
00:58 <Makar8000> : its soft o.o
00:58 <xcherry> : = =
00:58 <Makar8000> : you mean make it louder or what?
00:58 <xcherry> : go to (6)
00:58 <xcherry> : play in 25%
00:58 <Makar8000> : oic
00:59 <Makar8000> : that
00:59 <xcherry> : is a nono?
00:59 <Makar8000> : sounds like an awesome idea actually
00:59 <Makar8000> : hold on
00:59 *Makar8000 tests something
00:59 <xcherry> : you know, I'm going to keep doing what you do
00:59 <Makar8000> : omg
00:59 <Makar8000> : I love this
00:59 <Makar8000> : okay
01:00 <Makar8000> : done
01:00 <xcherry> : o.o
01:00 <xcherry> : okay :3
01:00 <xcherry> : 00:24:208 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ...you know how much it returns to the center orz
01:01 <Makar8000> : what are you suggesting o.o
01:01 <xcherry> : trying to find a creative way to fix this orz
01:02 <xcherry> : I'm modding not to find errors
01:02 <xcherry> : more like
01:02 <xcherry> : to help you actually enjoy your own map ._.
01:02 <Makar8000> : yeah thats what I want
01:02 <xcherry> : exactly = =
01:02 <Makar8000> : there are no realy errors
01:02 <Makar8000> : real*
01:02 <Makar8000> : its just playability/flow
01:02 <xcherry> : for a second I thought you had spelled really wrong
01:02 <xcherry> : lol yes, I'm trying to find some ways to make it less repetitive
01:04 <xcherry> : 00:24:208 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - are the notes around here all ds'd?
01:05 <xcherry> : because I'm fixing them around
01:05 <xcherry> : and I can't remember ._.
01:06 <Makar8000> : yes
01:06 <Makar8000> : to 2.0
01:06 <xcherry> : really? I didn't think it was
01:06 <xcherry> : oh o.o
01:06 <xcherry> : okay
01:07 <Makar8000> : its 2.0 because of the 0.5 slider velocity
01:07 <Makar8000> : except
01:07 <Makar8000> : 00:24:808 (3) - the note after this is not distance snapped
01:07 <Makar8000> : because I wanted the spacing to be based on the start of the short slider instead of the end of it
01:07 <xcherry> : okay so this whole section is ds'd by 2.0?
01:07 <Makar8000> : yeah
01:07 <xcherry> : okay that makes sense
01:08 <xcherry> : no wonder when I was trying to do stuff it looked strange
01:09 <Makar8000> : btw whenver you get there
01:09 <Makar8000> : 00:30:958 (2,3,4,5) -
01:09 <Makar8000> : I need a suggestion to fix this
01:09 <xcherry> : lol okay
01:11 <xcherry> : 00:26:458 (9,1) - is this ds'd as well?
01:11 <xcherry> : and by which spacing?
01:11 <Makar8000> : the slider velocity changes there
01:12 <Makar8000> : back to 1.0
01:12 <Makar8000> : so
01:12 <Makar8000> : the distance that the editor gives you
01:12 <Makar8000> : may be weird
01:12 <Makar8000> : and you will just have to go on looks really
01:13 <xcherry> : okay o.o
01:13 <xcherry> : I think I got something
01:13 <xcherry> : not sure if you'll like it or not though
01:13 <xcherry> : I used ds: 2.0
01:13 <Makar8000> : ohyeaa
01:13 <xcherry> : lol
01:14 <xcherry> : okay, so I'll send them in screenshots, maybe 3 notes at a time
01:14 <Makar8000> : uh ok
01:14 <xcherry> : orz what else am I supposed to do = =
01:14 <Makar8000> : o.o?
01:14 <xcherry> : lol nevermind xD
01:14 <xcherry> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/152882
01:15 <xcherry> : omg orz
01:15 <Makar8000> : lol @ my message
01:15 <xcherry> : it's like
01:15 <xcherry> : xD
01:15 <xcherry> : preventing me from uploading
01:15 <xcherry> : so
01:15 <xcherry> : wait like a few seconds orz
01:15 <Makar8000> : wait uh
01:15 <Makar8000> : I dont see
01:15 <Makar8000> : what you did
01:15 <xcherry> : you don't o.o;
01:15 <Makar8000> : select the notes so I can tell
01:15 <xcherry> : ._.
01:16 <xcherry> : okay, going over this again xD
01:16 <Makar8000> : wait
01:16 <xcherry> : ...
01:16 <Makar8000> : did you change the triangle jump?
01:16 <Makar8000> : D:
01:16 <xcherry> : D:
01:16 <xcherry> : no
01:16 <xcherry> : o.o;
01:16 <Makar8000> : its bigger
01:16 <xcherry> : what? D:
01:16 <xcherry> : I never changed it
01:16 <xcherry> : that's how it is = =
01:16 <Makar8000> : oh
01:16 <xcherry> : it looks big because all the notes are there >.>
01:17 <xcherry> : anyways http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/152885
01:17 <xcherry> : gotta wait for the next...
01:17 <xcherry> : orz
01:17 <Makar8000> : uh
01:17 <Makar8000> : the first screenshot
01:18 <Makar8000> : (2) might make poeple think its still a 1/2 jump
01:18 <xcherry> : ._.
01:19 <Makar8000> : second screenshot looks good
01:19 <Makar8000> : send the third?
01:19 <xcherry> : dude
01:19 <xcherry> : I have to wait :c
01:19 <Makar8000> : o.o?
01:19 <xcherry> : >.>
01:19 <Makar8000> : why not just puush?
01:19 <xcherry> : cause my puush is getting full >:
01:19 <xcherry> : okay fine
01:20 <Makar8000> : ...
01:20 <Makar8000> : orz
01:20 <Makar8000> : then clean it
01:20 <Makar8000> : lol
01:20 <xcherry> : >.>
01:20 <Makar8000> : this is a one time thing so you can just delete it afterward
01:20 <xcherry> : right okay okay
01:20 <xcherry> : here: http://puu.sh/657A
01:21 <xcherry> : I feel this is the best I can come up with :c
01:21 <xcherry> : plus I'm not very experienced, so... orz
01:21 <Makar8000> : hmm
01:21 <Makar8000> : 00:26:158 (7,8,9,1) - does this play well with it switched like that?
01:21 <Makar8000> : it seems weird
01:22 <xcherry> : I tried several times
01:22 <xcherry> : I'll try again
01:23 <xcherry> : 00:26:458 (9,1) - this would play weird though
01:23 <xcherry> : unless you changed (1)
01:23 <Makar8000> : yeah thats what I meant
01:23 <Makar8000> : uhh
01:23 <Makar8000> : I dont want to copy the previous pattern that was like this either
01:23 <Makar8000> : 00:21:358 (4,5,6,1) -
01:24 <xcherry> : it's not exactly the same :c
01:24 <Makar8000> : well I mean
01:24 <Makar8000> : where else would (1) go
01:24 <Makar8000> : I couldnt leave it like that because its weird ._.
01:25 <xcherry> : you could stack (1) on (7)
01:25 <xcherry> : the ds allows it
01:25 <Makar8000> : I use to many of those as it is
01:25 <Makar8000> : :s
01:25 <xcherry> : otherwise you'd have to move (1) somewhere and change the distance of the next combo
01:26 <xcherry> : ._.
01:27 <xcherry> : all I can think of is: http://puu.sh/658x
01:27 <xcherry> : but then you'll have to change spacing
01:27 <xcherry> : cause (2) and (1) are now very far apart
01:27 <Makar8000> : yeah but I'm not worried about that
01:27 <Makar8000> : its just
01:27 <Makar8000> : overall in the map
01:27 <Makar8000> : I use that kind of mouse flow too much
01:27 <Makar8000> : ._.
01:28 <xcherry> : yeah yeah I know what you mean...
01:28 <xcherry> : sorry, I tried ;_;
01:28 <Makar8000> : its okay ._.
01:29 <xcherry> : 00:27:958 (4,5,6,7) - I can't move any of this otherwise the distance will be fucked orz
01:31 <xcherry> : unless
01:31 <xcherry> : 00:27:208 (3,4,5,6,7) - can you stack (6) at the end of the slider of (3)?
01:31 <xcherry> : except the distance between (7)... x.x
01:32 <Makar8000> : I can
01:32 <Makar8000> : then horizontal flip (7) and move stuff around
01:32 <xcherry> : that... could work o:
01:32 <Makar8000> : hmm
01:32 <xcherry> : 00:30:658 (1,2,3,4,5) - working on this~
01:33 <Makar8000> : but what about symmetry
01:33 <xcherry> : >.>
01:33 <Makar8000> : to much stuff on the left
01:33 <xcherry> : it's going towards the right orz
01:33 <xcherry> : awaaayyy from the left :c
01:33 <Makar8000> : no I mean the slider puts more weight on the left side
01:33 <xcherry> : okay fine >:
01:33 <Makar8000> : if I were to move (7) so it starts there
01:33 <Makar8000> : D: dont be sad
01:34 <Makar8000> : I'm still thinking
01:34 <Makar8000> : orz
01:34 <xcherry> : T^T
01:34 <Makar8000> : D:
01:34 <xcherry> : it's okay -w-
01:35 <xcherry> : um
01:35 <xcherry> : lolwhat
01:35 <xcherry> : some random person
01:35 <xcherry> : is talking to me o.o;
01:35 <Makar8000> : o.o
01:35 <Makar8000> : who?
01:35 <xcherry> : LOL
01:35 <xcherry> : mod request? .-.
01:35 <xcherry> : some person from Taiwan
01:35 <xcherry> : wonder why they're asking me o.o
01:35 <Makar8000> : lol
01:36 <Makar8000> : who is though
01:36 <xcherry> : 12BARRY21 o.o;
01:37 <Makar8000> : sounds familiar
01:37 <Makar8000> : o.o
01:37 <xcherry> : o:
01:37 <xcherry> : poor english
01:37 <xcherry> : >w<
01:38 <xcherry> : why do you pass your curse to me orz
01:38 <Makar8000> : I sowwy :<
01:38 <xcherry> : lol it's okay xD
01:38 <xcherry> : It's expected now orz
01:39 <xcherry> : ._. http://puu.sh/65aj
01:39 <Makar8000> : ._.
01:39 <xcherry> : except
01:39 <xcherry> : better spacing
01:39 <Makar8000> : what about sliders
01:39 <xcherry> : wait, you didn't want that fixed? o.o
01:40 <Makar8000> : wait
01:40 <Makar8000> : 00:30:958 (2,3,4,5) - this?
01:40 <Makar8000> : what about useing 2 sliders instead?
01:40 <Makar8000> : like 00:32:008 (7,8) - or osmething
01:41 <xcherry> : yeah , that could work
01:41 <xcherry> : I'll try seeing what I can do here o.o
01:42 <xcherry> : like this maybe? http://puu.sh/65aH
01:43 <Makar8000> : hmm
01:43 <Makar8000> : going from (1) to (2) and back though
01:44 <Makar8000> : because if it was rotated 90 degrees or something
01:44 <Makar8000> : er
01:44 <Makar8000> : then it would be hard to fix the stuff after it so it also plays good
01:45 <Makar8000> : uhhhhhhhhhhh
01:46 <xcherry> : lol I'm still working on it all >w<
01:46 <Makar8000> : okay ill just wait until you do something then lol
01:46 <Makar8000> : http://puu.sh/65b3 lazy way which I will go with if you cant think of anything else :p
01:47 <xcherry> : lol you're so lazy xD
01:47 <Makar8000> : ikr :3
01:47 <xcherry> : that's right
01:47 <xcherry> : you be proud of it
01:47 <xcherry> : xD
01:47 <Makar8000> : xD
01:47 <Makar8000> : atm
01:47 <Makar8000> : I am really tired
01:47 <Makar8000> : so after this
01:48 <Makar8000> : zzzz
01:48 <Makar8000> : finish tomorrow
01:48 <xcherry> : o.o;
01:48 <xcherry> : okay orz
01:49 <xcherry> : okay here
01:49 <xcherry> : http://puu.sh/65bp
01:49 <xcherry> : http://puu.sh/65bt
01:49 <xcherry> : need to stack that 4 orzorzorz
01:49 <xcherry> : it's so hard to do >:
01:51 <Makar8000> : hmmmm
01:51 *Makar8000 falls asleep
01:51 <xcherry> : D:
01:51 <xcherry> : okay orz
01:51 <xcherry> : night >:
01:51 <Makar8000> : drtyfgkuhlijok
01:51 <xcherry> : and I realized I never did my hw
01:51 <xcherry> : adoihgodughd
01:51 <xcherry> : so like, this is going to be hard to put together
01:51 <xcherry> : so many random breaks and stuff orz
01:51 <Makar8000> : yeah uh
01:52 <Makar8000> : I'm going to go with
01:52 <Makar8000> : "yeah we uh lost the log soo uhhh just trust us"
01:52 <xcherry> : LOL
01:52 <xcherry> : it would take a long time to find everything =w=
01:52 <Makar8000> : yeah
01:53 <xcherry> : 00:30:658 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so consider this so I don't forget tomorrow
01:53 <Makar8000> : uh huh
01:53 <xcherry> : 35% through...
01:53 <xcherry> : I feel accomplished. >.>
01:53 <Makar8000> : how di dyou get the percentage o.o
01:54 <xcherry> : at the bottom o.o;
01:54 <Makar8000> : calculated it yourself or does it give it to you in the editor
01:54 <Makar8000> : .........
01:54 <xcherry> : >.>
01:54 *Makar8000 slaps self
01:54 <xcherry> : xD
01:54 <Makar8000> : I serously
01:54 <Makar8000> : had no idea that was there
01:54 <xcherry> : ...are you serious ._.
01:54 <Makar8000> : and I always wondered why people took the time to calculate the percentages
01:54 <Makar8000> : ._.
01:54 <xcherry> : oh wow...
01:54 <xcherry> : you
01:54 <xcherry> : are smart
01:54 <xcherry> : o.ob
01:55 <Makar8000> : orz
01:55 <Makar8000> : well
01:55 <Makar8000> : good night then
01:55 <xcherry> : lol okay, night c:
EDIT: and btw arien, your CtB diff is so troll
orzEDIT #2: I realized I didn't have any saved log for the easy diff... I even forgot that I modded it u.u
No to all that.
Topic Starter
:3arien666 wrote:
[Easy]
01:03:208 (5,1) - Anti-jump for Easy is not good idea. Idk how that happened but fixed
meow :3
ps. Catch diff updated Updated first post
I just wanted to note that these changes were done/updated before arken modded.xcherry wrote:
sorry for the late reply, it was hard to go through the logs since I saved so many times to make sure I got them. plus, like I said, since there was enough chat, some of it disappeared orz
So I put together what you gave me Makar and some of what I found that wasn't included. Here's my mod~
Pizza or not pizza, that is the question.
:3
:3
Topic Starter
I like Pizza :3arien666 wrote:
Pizza or not pizza, that is the question.
:3
Extra:
01:14:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Holy shit. That's some troll diff Selamat Pagi v2?
01:14:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Holy shit. That's some troll diff Selamat Pagi v2?
Funny how both this map and the already ranked version of this song have such troll diffs.Raging Bull wrote:
Extra:
01:14:608 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Holy shit. That's some troll diff Selamat Pagi v2?
Double ranking is imminent? xDDDDDD
thank you :3xcherry wrote:
Funny how both this map and the already ranked version of this song have such troll diffs.
What's 1:14 if it's the stream I am going to choke you
inb4 Ozzy chokes Raging Bull.OzzyOzrock wrote:
What's 1:14 if it's the stream I am going to choke you
What? It won't choke me. I'll show this 200 bpm stream choking!
Ignore if there's already been some discussion about it.
I just happened to notice this is bubbled as well as the one with the correct title, and weezy's beatmap uses the incorrect title. It's probably an executive decision whether or not to rank with the correct title or to keep the standard.
At the very least put the correct title in the tags. Also other tags to consider in the image.
whatever the case may be, I think it should have the same title as this beatmap:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/33212
(or kiddly could change the title to be incorrect on his version).
Topic Starter
May I ask where you got that picture? The Nichijou OP track on CDJapan and Play-Asia use Hyadainnojo~jo~yu~jo~ziin wrote:
Ignore if there's already been some discussion about it.
I just happened to notice this is bubbled as well as the one with the correct title, and weezy's beatmap uses the incorrect title. It's probably an executive decision whether or not to rank with the correct title or to keep the standard.
At the very least put the correct title in the tags. Also other tags to consider in the image.
whatever the case may be, I think it should have the same title as this beatmap:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/33212
(or kiddly could change the title to be incorrect on his version).
That is from the PV, they are using the English title while I'm usin the Japanese. Doesn't matter which is being used but yeah you should put it in the tags. Just wait till a BAT mods it.Makar8000 wrote:
May I ask where you got that picture? The Nichijou OP track on CDJapan and Play-Asia use Hyadainnojo~jo~yu~jo~ziin wrote:
Ignore if there's already been some discussion about it.
I just happened to notice this is bubbled as well as the one with the correct title, and weezy's beatmap uses the incorrect title. It's probably an executive decision whether or not to rank with the correct title or to keep the standard.
At the very least put the correct title in the tags. Also other tags to consider in the image.
whatever the case may be, I think it should have the same title as this beatmap:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/33212
(or kiddly could change the title to be incorrect on his version).
Topic Starter
Thanks for the clarification. I'll just wait then.Weezy wrote:
That is from the PV, they are using the English title while I'm usin the Japanese. Doesn't matter which is being used but yeah you should put it in the tags. Just wait till a BAT mods it.
What are you all guys arguing about? we've always used wikipedia to confirm the artists and titles of songs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichijou
According to this the correct title would be Hyadain no Jōjō Yūjō but since osu! doesnt accept those characters Joujou Yuujou is fine, Jojo Yujo however it's not, idk why the PV used that name but the english translation according to the same wiki is: Hyadain's Amazing Friendship which would look weird anyways.
There's no katakana in the japanese characters, which means it's a japanese title, you should be using the romanized version instead, so this version is ok, and the other pending map should change it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichijou
According to this the correct title would be Hyadain no Jōjō Yūjō but since osu! doesnt accept those characters Joujou Yuujou is fine, Jojo Yujo however it's not, idk why the PV used that name but the english translation according to the same wiki is: Hyadain's Amazing Friendship which would look weird anyways.
There's no katakana in the japanese characters, which means it's a japanese title, you should be using the romanized version instead, so this version is ok, and the other pending map should change it.
Topic Starter
So should "Hyadain's JoJo YuJo" be added to the tags then?Sakura Hana wrote:
What are you all guys arguing about? we've always used wikipedia to confirm the artists and titles of songs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichijou
According to this the correct title would be Hyadain no Jōjō Yūjō but since osu! doesnt accept those characters Joujou Yuujou is fine, Jojo Yujo however it's not, idk why the PV used that name but the english translation according to the same wiki is: Hyadain's Amazing Friendship which would look weird anyways.
There's no katakana in the japanese characters, which means it's a japanese title, you should be using the romanized version instead, so this version is ok, and the other pending map should change it.
[General]
Might as well take the chance to add those tags now.
Combo placement looks really odd to me, excuse me but imma have to combo mod this.
[Ozzy's Extra]
Some of your combos are starting in the middle of a sentence or in the middle of an stanza without any other explanation other than the patterns? which would then mean that your patterns arent following the song well, so it's highly adviced you follow those combo mods.
Also why does this diff has the same HP drain as Hard? ._.
OD+1
00:21:358 (4,1) - Switch new combo.
00:35:908 (4,1) - ^
00:36:658 (1) - Remove new combo
00:37:258 (1,1) - Remove new combos.
00:38:308 (4) - New combo
00:38:608 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You could pretty much remove all the new combos in this pattern, it's not like the player needs those hp boosts at the current hp drain.
until 00:40:408 (1) - which here a new combo would be nice again.
[...] At this point it would be better for you to rethink your combos ._.
00:43:408 (1) - This speed change is really unintuitive. i suggest using something more mild like 75% or 80%, considering the high speed already 50% of something big = big change.
01:19:408 (1) - No just no, at such gigantic slider speed players will combo break here no matter what
[Insane]
Why does this diff have higher hp drain than Extra? ._.
First of all it's normal that higher diffs have more notes per sentence/stanza, so it's also normal the combos go higher.
00:35:008 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:39:508 (1) - ^
00:41:908 (1,2) - Switch new combo (And adjust your pattern accordingly to make it fit the new combo)
00:44:458 (5) - Ehh this combo doesnt really go with the song either, remove this NC.
00:47:008 (1) - ^
00:56:158 (1) - Remove new combo here too.
01:02:158 (3) - Now your combos are being inconsistent ._. Add new combo for consistence with 00:57:358 (1)
01:03:508 (7) - Either remove this note or follow the vocal, if anything you could also add a NC here, but this note feels awkwardly alone since it hasn't started a new stanza yet, so it's awkward to add a note for the sake of the main beat when you were following the vocals which also have notes on 1/2 before and after this.
01:07:408 (5) - New combo for new stanza since you're following the main beat now?
[...] At this point i dont even know what your combos are following anymore X_X
[eldnl's Hard]
00:30:958 (3) - New combo.
00:46:408 (4) - ^
00:48:508 (7) - ^
00:58:408 (4) - This slider seems to be following the "Oooo" so it should end at 00:58:858
00:59:308 (5) - New combo.
01:03:208 (3) - Should end at: 01:03:658
01:08:158 (5) - New combo (and adjust your patterns for it).
01:17:008 (1) - A slider doesnt fit here at all, i dont hear any held note, so can you explain the reason for this slider?.
Well at least the comboing wasnt too bad, however it still needs more polishing.
[Pereira's Normal]
00:18:208 (1,3) - Switch new combo.
00:21:208 (6,1) - ^
00:27:658 (1) - Remove new combo (Makes more sense)
00:59:308 (6) - New combo (Follows your pattern)
01:01:408 (3) - New combo yet again
01:06:208 (2,1) - Switch new combo.
01:08:008 (5) - This would be better off split into 3 notes with the middle one using a new combo.
01:10:108 (1) - Remove new combo, so that its following the same pattern you've had so far like at: 01:07:408 (3)
01:10:708 (3) - Same comment as 01:08:008 (5)
01:14:308 (4,1) - Switch new combo.
[Easy]
Well this one's not too bad
01:08:608 (4,1) - Switch new combo.
Ok now really, if you disagree with any of the combo mods feel free to explain to me why did you choose such a combo pattern instead of following the song, if you're using combos for your patterns rather than the song chances are your patterns arent following the song, that's all i gotta say, feel free to tell me you're reasoning so i can understand otherwise it's highly advised that you do these changes.
Edit: After further discussion, this map shouldnt even have been bubbled in the first place, reverting it back to star icon
Might as well take the chance to add those tags now.
Combo placement looks really odd to me, excuse me but imma have to combo mod this.
[Ozzy's Extra]
Some of your combos are starting in the middle of a sentence or in the middle of an stanza without any other explanation other than the patterns? which would then mean that your patterns arent following the song well, so it's highly adviced you follow those combo mods.
Also why does this diff has the same HP drain as Hard? ._.
OD+1
00:21:358 (4,1) - Switch new combo.
00:35:908 (4,1) - ^
00:36:658 (1) - Remove new combo
00:37:258 (1,1) - Remove new combos.
00:38:308 (4) - New combo
00:38:608 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You could pretty much remove all the new combos in this pattern, it's not like the player needs those hp boosts at the current hp drain.
until 00:40:408 (1) - which here a new combo would be nice again.
[...] At this point it would be better for you to rethink your combos ._.
00:43:408 (1) - This speed change is really unintuitive. i suggest using something more mild like 75% or 80%, considering the high speed already 50% of something big = big change.
01:19:408 (1) - No just no, at such gigantic slider speed players will combo break here no matter what
[Insane]
Why does this diff have higher hp drain than Extra? ._.
First of all it's normal that higher diffs have more notes per sentence/stanza, so it's also normal the combos go higher.
00:35:008 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:39:508 (1) - ^
00:41:908 (1,2) - Switch new combo (And adjust your pattern accordingly to make it fit the new combo)
00:44:458 (5) - Ehh this combo doesnt really go with the song either, remove this NC.
00:47:008 (1) - ^
00:56:158 (1) - Remove new combo here too.
01:02:158 (3) - Now your combos are being inconsistent ._. Add new combo for consistence with 00:57:358 (1)
01:03:508 (7) - Either remove this note or follow the vocal, if anything you could also add a NC here, but this note feels awkwardly alone since it hasn't started a new stanza yet, so it's awkward to add a note for the sake of the main beat when you were following the vocals which also have notes on 1/2 before and after this.
01:07:408 (5) - New combo for new stanza since you're following the main beat now?
[...] At this point i dont even know what your combos are following anymore X_X
[eldnl's Hard]
00:30:958 (3) - New combo.
00:46:408 (4) - ^
00:48:508 (7) - ^
00:58:408 (4) - This slider seems to be following the "Oooo" so it should end at 00:58:858
00:59:308 (5) - New combo.
01:03:208 (3) - Should end at: 01:03:658
01:08:158 (5) - New combo (and adjust your patterns for it).
01:17:008 (1) - A slider doesnt fit here at all, i dont hear any held note, so can you explain the reason for this slider?.
Well at least the comboing wasnt too bad, however it still needs more polishing.
[Pereira's Normal]
00:18:208 (1,3) - Switch new combo.
00:21:208 (6,1) - ^
00:27:658 (1) - Remove new combo (Makes more sense)
00:59:308 (6) - New combo (Follows your pattern)
01:01:408 (3) - New combo yet again
01:06:208 (2,1) - Switch new combo.
01:08:008 (5) - This would be better off split into 3 notes with the middle one using a new combo.
01:10:108 (1) - Remove new combo, so that its following the same pattern you've had so far like at: 01:07:408 (3)
01:10:708 (3) - Same comment as 01:08:008 (5)
01:14:308 (4,1) - Switch new combo.
[Easy]
Well this one's not too bad
01:08:608 (4,1) - Switch new combo.
Ok now really, if you disagree with any of the combo mods feel free to explain to me why did you choose such a combo pattern instead of following the song, if you're using combos for your patterns rather than the song chances are your patterns arent following the song, that's all i gotta say, feel free to tell me you're reasoning so i can understand otherwise it's highly advised that you do these changes.
Edit: After further discussion, this map shouldnt even have been bubbled in the first place, reverting it back to star icon
My combos go on bigwhite ticks and mark jumps, Sakura. None of this vocal and HP crap. Lol.
Download: Hyadain - Hyadain no Joujou Yuujou (TV Size) (Makar8000) [Ozzy's Extra].osuBUT I FIXED THE STUPID SLIDER
That means per stanza, yet i stil saw like 2 combos on a single stanza during 00:38:608 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) ._.OzzyOzrock wrote:
My combos go on bigwhite ticks and mark jumps, Sakura.
and 00:02:608 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) this as well? and this 00:07:258 (8,9) ?
Really now if you're really going on big white ticks then this still needs combo fixing, and why do you need to mark jumps if they really go with the music? xD
Edit: Well i'll see when i recheck this map then
Topic Starter
Thanks for modding. Normal and Extra updated as well and Hard will be looked at laterSakura Hana wrote:
[General]
Might as well take the chance to add those tags now. Done
Combo placement looks really odd to me, excuse me but imma have to combo mod this. Okay orz
[Insane]
Why does this diff have higher hp drain than Extra? ._. ._. I dunno Dx HP Drain 6 seems good for this diff. I'll bug Ozzy about changing his.
First of all it's normal that higher diffs have more notes per sentence/stanza, so it's also normal the combos go higher.
00:35:008 (1) - Remove new combo. Done
00:39:508 (1) - ^ Done
00:41:908 (1,2) - Switch new combo (And adjust your pattern accordingly to make it fit the new combo)
00:44:458 (5) - Ehh this combo doesnt really go with the song either, remove this NC. I'm assuming you meant 00:44:608 (1) - since there is no new combo there. Done
00:47:008 (1) - ^ Done
00:56:158 (1) - Remove new combo here too. Done
01:02:158 (3) - Now your combos are being inconsistent ._. Add new combo for consistence with 00:57:358 (1) Done
01:03:508 (7) - Either remove this note or follow the vocal, if anything you could also add a NC here, but this note feels awkwardly alone since it hasn't started a new stanza yet, so it's awkward to add a note for the sake of the main beat when you were following the vocals which also have notes on 1/2 before and after this. This note was added because many modders said it felt empty here. I do not want to remove it because of this unless you really feel like it should be...
01:07:408 (5) - New combo for new stanza since you're following the main beat now? Ignoring this because the main beat starts at 01:06:208 (1) -
[...] At this point i dont even know what your combos are following anymore X_X Tried fixing so it makes sense now (going by the vocal changes and such) orz
[Easy]
Well this one's not too bad
01:08:608 (4,1) - Switch new combo. Done
Ok now really, if you disagree with any of the combo mods feel free to explain to me why did you choose such a combo pattern instead of following the song, if you're using combos for your patterns rather than the song chances are your patterns arent following the song, that's all i gotta say, feel free to tell me you're reasoning so i can understand otherwise it's highly advised that you do these changes.
MY COMBOS ARE ART YOU DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO GOD DAMN IT *flips desk*
...
...
MY SCREEN OH WHY THE HELL
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MY SCREEN OH WHY THE HELL
stop doing stupid stuff and you won't need to fix stupid stuff
SPOILER
22:05 <OzzyOzrock> : SHOWER ME WITH MISGUIDANCE
22:05 <OzzyOzrock> : I mean, help with NCs
22:06 <Sakura_Hana> : lol
22:07 <Sakura_Hana> : 00:12:208 (6,1) - This here for example, i can see there's a jump from 6 to 1, but does it really need a
22:07 <Sakura_Hana> : NC, in fact why isnt (6) the NC instead?
22:08 <Sakura_Hana> : 00:23:158 (1) - This NC does make sense, however it's not really a jump, and it's not at the start of a
22:08 <Sakura_Hana> : stanza, although you can keep it because it does make sense with the song
22:09 <Sakura_Hana> : 00:36:658 (1,1) - These jumps... do they really need NCs? i think players would be smart enough to hit
22:09 <Sakura_Hana> : them
22:09 <OzzyOzrock> : 3 people have told me to
22:09 <OzzyOzrock> : Should I?
22:09 <Sakura_Hana> : yup remove NC from those
22:10 <Sakura_Hana> : 00:43:408 (1) - This slider is still too slow, if you take in mind you are at 440 bpm speed (200 x 2.2) half
22:10 <Sakura_Hana> : of that is 220, 440 > 220 is a really big difference in speed
22:11 <OzzyOzrock> : But you can see the TRUCKLOAD of ticks and most would feel the speed of the song changing lol
22:12 <Sakura_Hana> : "see the truckload of ticks" right but players dont read sliderticks, NatsumeRin proved that some time
22:12 <Sakura_Hana> : ago
22:12 <OzzyOzrock> :
22:12 <OzzyOzrock> : D:
22:13 <OzzyOzrock> : Players may not read them but I'm sure they can play through such parts well without having to
22:13 <Sakura_Hana> : 00:56:008 (1) - This also doesnt need NC and pattern probably needs to be changed a bit, the jumps
22:13 <Sakura_Hana> : dont fit the song at all, the song doesnt change, yet you changed the spacing suddenly and marked it
22:13 <Sakura_Hana> : with a new combo
22:13 <OzzyOzrock> : I haven't heard anyone complain about it out of all the mods or anyone miss it when playin--
22:13 <Sakura_Hana> : and if not, they still will combo break due to said TRUCKLOAD of ticks
22:13 <OzzyOzrock> : COURSE THEY WON'T
22:14 <OzzyOzrock> : those jumps fit, the song intensifies from a small sound to a heavier sound lol
22:15 <Sakura_Hana> : if anything a spacing acceleration would fit best
22:15 <OzzyOzrock> : but those suck lol
22:15 <OzzyOzrock> : And I don't agree
22:15 <Sakura_Hana> : at this point the increase is too sudden
22:16 <Sakura_Hana> : 00:55:408 (1,2,3,4) - these are increasing intensity at the same speed as the next 4, why are they
22:16 <Sakura_Hana> : different?
22:16 <OzzyOzrock> : If you listen, the first four down have the drums pounding and whatnot
22:17 <OzzyOzrock> : It's more in that aspect
22:17 <Sakura_Hana> : ok so you say you're using combos for marking jumps
22:17 <Sakura_Hana> : 01:03:808 (3,4,5,6) - these are jumps?
22:17 <Sakura_Hana> : but oh! if you do that then that means you end up with a worse combo
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : I'll destroy 01:03:358 (9) -
22:18 <Sakura_Hana> : 01:03:358 (1) - Because you have a NC here
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : and start it at 01:03:808 (1) -
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : then lol
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : 01:05:008 (5) -
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : and remove this too
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : wheeee
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : I'll be right back~ In uh, about 20 minutes or something (sorry lol)
22:20 <Sakura_Hana> : why NC 01:08:008 (1) - here then if you're going per stanza
22:20 *OzzyOzrock s away: DON'T YOU DARE
22:20 <Sakura_Hana> : lol ok, but i guess you'll have to look through your own diff again for combos
22:20 *OzzyOzrock s away: DON'T YOU DARE
22:20 <OzzyOzrock> : Yeah, I already understand what you mean (I think)
22:20 <OzzyOzrock> : oh gosh I should be away
22:05 <OzzyOzrock> : I mean, help with NCs
22:06 <Sakura_Hana> : lol
22:07 <Sakura_Hana> : 00:12:208 (6,1) - This here for example, i can see there's a jump from 6 to 1, but does it really need a
22:07 <Sakura_Hana> : NC, in fact why isnt (6) the NC instead?
22:08 <Sakura_Hana> : 00:23:158 (1) - This NC does make sense, however it's not really a jump, and it's not at the start of a
22:08 <Sakura_Hana> : stanza, although you can keep it because it does make sense with the song
22:09 <Sakura_Hana> : 00:36:658 (1,1) - These jumps... do they really need NCs? i think players would be smart enough to hit
22:09 <Sakura_Hana> : them
22:09 <OzzyOzrock> : 3 people have told me to
22:09 <OzzyOzrock> : Should I?
22:09 <Sakura_Hana> : yup remove NC from those
22:10 <Sakura_Hana> : 00:43:408 (1) - This slider is still too slow, if you take in mind you are at 440 bpm speed (200 x 2.2) half
22:10 <Sakura_Hana> : of that is 220, 440 > 220 is a really big difference in speed
22:11 <OzzyOzrock> : But you can see the TRUCKLOAD of ticks and most would feel the speed of the song changing lol
22:12 <Sakura_Hana> : "see the truckload of ticks" right but players dont read sliderticks, NatsumeRin proved that some time
22:12 <Sakura_Hana> : ago
22:12 <OzzyOzrock> :
22:12 <OzzyOzrock> : D:
22:13 <OzzyOzrock> : Players may not read them but I'm sure they can play through such parts well without having to
22:13 <Sakura_Hana> : 00:56:008 (1) - This also doesnt need NC and pattern probably needs to be changed a bit, the jumps
22:13 <Sakura_Hana> : dont fit the song at all, the song doesnt change, yet you changed the spacing suddenly and marked it
22:13 <Sakura_Hana> : with a new combo
22:13 <OzzyOzrock> : I haven't heard anyone complain about it out of all the mods or anyone miss it when playin--
22:13 <Sakura_Hana> : and if not, they still will combo break due to said TRUCKLOAD of ticks
22:13 <OzzyOzrock> : COURSE THEY WON'T
22:14 <OzzyOzrock> : those jumps fit, the song intensifies from a small sound to a heavier sound lol
22:15 <Sakura_Hana> : if anything a spacing acceleration would fit best
22:15 <OzzyOzrock> : but those suck lol
22:15 <OzzyOzrock> : And I don't agree
22:15 <Sakura_Hana> : at this point the increase is too sudden
22:16 <Sakura_Hana> : 00:55:408 (1,2,3,4) - these are increasing intensity at the same speed as the next 4, why are they
22:16 <Sakura_Hana> : different?
22:16 <OzzyOzrock> : If you listen, the first four down have the drums pounding and whatnot
22:17 <OzzyOzrock> : It's more in that aspect
22:17 <Sakura_Hana> : ok so you say you're using combos for marking jumps
22:17 <Sakura_Hana> : 01:03:808 (3,4,5,6) - these are jumps?
22:17 <Sakura_Hana> : but oh! if you do that then that means you end up with a worse combo
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : I'll destroy 01:03:358 (9) -
22:18 <Sakura_Hana> : 01:03:358 (1) - Because you have a NC here
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : and start it at 01:03:808 (1) -
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : then lol
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : 01:05:008 (5) -
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : and remove this too
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : wheeee
22:18 <OzzyOzrock> : I'll be right back~ In uh, about 20 minutes or something (sorry lol)
22:20 <Sakura_Hana> : why NC 01:08:008 (1) - here then if you're going per stanza
22:20 *OzzyOzrock s away: DON'T YOU DARE
22:20 <Sakura_Hana> : lol ok, but i guess you'll have to look through your own diff again for combos
22:20 *OzzyOzrock s away: DON'T YOU DARE
22:20 <OzzyOzrock> : Yeah, I already understand what you mean (I think)
22:20 <OzzyOzrock> : oh gosh I should be away
a.k.a Ozzy needs to review his own diff and make his combos more consistent with his intentions (by that i mean NC every stanza and marking jumps)
YEAH! You go girl!
Download: Hyadain - Hyadain no Joujou Yuujou (TV Size) (Makar8000) [Ozzy's Extra].osu
yes i was serious so your faceShiirn wrote:
stop doing stupid stuff and you won't need to fix stupid stuff
Thaanks sakuraSakura Hana wrote:
[eldnl's Hard]
00:30:958 (3) - New combo. Is inconsistent with the previous pattern but ok, follow the voice.
00:46:408 (4) - ^ Ok, also I change these patter a little, I don't want a stack new combo.
00:48:508 (7) - ^ Disagree with this new combo, looks very inconsistent for me.
00:58:408 (4) - This slider seems to be following the "Oooo" so it should end at 00:58:858 If you give a suggestion like this, put a image with a possible change, it's very difficult considering that I'm using the symmetry, so no :l also sounds good for me, the change is not necessary.
00:59:308 (5) - New combo. Agree, but I remove the next new combo.
01:03:208 (3) - Should end at: 01:03:658 Same as above
01:08:158 (5) - New combo (and adjust your patterns for it). With a new combo here it's fine, the pink follow the voice of the woman and the blue of the man.
01:17:008 (1) - A slider doesnt fit here at all, i dont hear any held note, so can you explain the reason for this slider?. Ok, changed.
Well at least the comboing wasnt too bad, however it still needs more polishing.
Download: Hyadain - Hyadain no Joujou Yuujou (TV Size) (Makar8000) [eldnL's Hard].osu
Uwogh... Owo so many star...
Insane
00:06:658 (5) NC?
00:07:483 (1) del NC?
00:09:358 (6) NC?
crazy~ =w=d
Ozzy's Extra
00:18:385 (4) NC?
....very very crazy.... =w="d
just suggestions.... give me kudosu or not, that's up to you~ because, I just give suggestions~
star~~~ >w</
Insane
00:06:658 (5) NC?
00:07:483 (1) del NC?
00:09:358 (6) NC?
crazy~ =w=d
Ozzy's Extra
00:18:385 (4) NC?
....very very crazy.... =w="d
just suggestions.... give me kudosu or not, that's up to you~ because, I just give suggestions~
star~~~ >w</