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PyP Video Game Mafia [MAFIA+SURVIVOR] - Dr. Hitter Escapes!

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Wojjan
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Wojjan
So by that logic we have to lynch Salvage. When we get to the effectual lylo, and Salvage being a lyncher no doubt he will joint with the mafia to vote his target (who is guaranteed town) and if the mafia play this even a bit nicely they'll keep fishie around until the end to get a pretty joint win.

Then why would Salvage stick his neck out D1 by protesting against the backfire BW as he did? Fishie was definitely not scoring town points at all so it would be much easier to pin the blame on him afterwards when Backfire flipped town.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
Actually i'm not a lyncher and i find highly unlikely that there is one on this setup , being that there are no actual characters in the role PM , atleast not in mine ^_^.


also , unvote.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
wow Backfire you are one unpopular Mafia player

Unvote
Backfire
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Joined February 2010
Backfire
What do you mean by "Unpopular" ;-;?
Lybydose
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Joined January 2009
Lybydose

Salvage wrote:

Actually i'm not a lyncher and i find highly unlikely that there is one on this setup , being that there are no actual characters in the role PM , atleast not in mine ^_^.


also , unvote.
so you're claiming mafia instead?
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
even tho i don't see your point i'm gonna pretend it makes sense :


no i'm not.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
also i'm going to sleep a bit , back in a few hours.
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
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Lybydose
coming to a conclusion about all the role names while having seen all of 1 name as a townie

or like 4 as a mafioso
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
got your point now , you're still wrong anyways , my role PM here was given as a role itself and not a character like on touhou or osu community pyp , that was my point.


now i'm really gone.
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
you're gone now but how can that mean there's no lyncher? Because two people can't be from the same game?
Lybydose
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Lybydose
Like you could have picked Sonic the Hedgehog <insert number here> and someone else could have chosen Super Mario <insert number here> and you'd have to lynch him.

or something
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
Yeah I was thinking that too Luigi's Mansion might want to step out of Super Mario Galaxy's shadow or something.
pieguyn
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Joined May 2009
pieguyn

Lybydose wrote:

I wasn't really serious either (I mean come on, using judge that many times?), but you seem to be keen on defending yourself and completely making sure everyone knows.
That's only because LS appeared to be taking it seriously. >.<//

That said, I just realized I never confirmed, so /confirm

While this whole thing is rather suspicious, I don't think Salvage is mafia, nor do I think fishie is mafia. I disagree with Lyby's accusation on Salvage, but I don't think Lyby is mafia either. Actually, my gut is pointing towards LunaticMara at this point. unvote, vote LunaticMara though I'll probably change it once more people show up (as it is we have about 37 people who are inactive)
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan

pieguy1372 wrote:

Actually, my gut is pointing towards LunaticMara at this point. unvote, vote LunaticMara though I'll probably change it once more people show up (as it is we have about 37 people who are inactive)
...go on.


no reasoning?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
..wait, 37? How did you get such a ridiculous number? There's only 19 people in this, not 37.
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2009
Lybydose
this guy

puush/Fao and such
pieguyn
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Joined May 2009
pieguyn
That was an exaggeration

Also, as I've been saying the past few games, I always vote on my gut day 1 unless someone does something obvious. With less data, there's a higher chance of a statistical error, especially with a lower critical value. As a result, the person who seems most suspicious isn't always mafia, especially when you consider when the mafia does a good job blending in day 1.

IIRC Rantai, Lilac, Rolled, foulcoon, DxS, adam2046, Jaqennn, and bmin11 (and fishie but I think he's town) didn't post anything after RVS, so I don't have any reads on any of them. I probably forgot one or two people though :?
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
see pies last time I called you out for voting on a gut feeling D1 you were mafia.
I was mafia too but thank Two for that one
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
Yeah, but that's because I always do it as town too. When mafia, IMO the optimal strategy is to play exactly the same as if you were town except perhaps in cases when it would harm one of your teammates.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
mkay i'm back , didn't sleep much >.<



just to clarify i said it was highly unlikely in this setup to have a lyncher , of course i'm not saying it's impossible.
adam2046
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adam2046

Salvage wrote:

just to clarify i said it was highly unlikely in this setup to have a lyncher , of course i'm not saying it's impossible.
What makes it highly unlikely? It's pyp, you could end up with any role.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
why are we loosing so much time in a meaningless thing like it? i just wanted to clarify that i didn't said it was impossible.
adam2046
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adam2046
Because we can?
Unvote
Vote: Salvage
Lybydose
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Lybydose

Salvage wrote:

why are we loosing so much time in a meaningless thing like it? i just wanted to clarify that i didn't said it was impossible.
I almost want to vote you just for that
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
sorry lyby D:


adam : i'd rather waste time thinking about more important things , we won't reach anything discussing the probabilty of roles being used when we don't know anything about them yet , glad you start moving things with that vote ^_^.
FisHie_old
742 posts
Joined November 2009
FisHie_old
Salvage and pieguy1372 are the most suspicious people to me so far.
You are being watched.

I'll just leave this here.

Unvote
Mara
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Joined November 2009
Mara

Wojjan wrote:

no reasoning?
He just hates me so much in general. That's all.

And okay.jpg.

unvote
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
Vote: Salvage

because you know its bad when you're more suspicious than swift.
Rantai
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Rantai

Salvage wrote:

adam : i'd rather waste time thinking about more important things , we won't reach anything discussing the probabilty of roles being used when we don't know anything about them yet , glad you start moving things with that vote ^_^.
Really now?

That sounds rather scummy right there, glad to see you don't mind wasting time, as long as it's not around you.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
I like when you're start realizing wich people are good at mafia and wich aren't.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
Ninja'd by Rantai , said it wrong sry D:
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
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Lybydose
I guess I can put you in the latter group then huh
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
why's that , i actually find me pretty good at it.
Jaqennn
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Jaqennn
even though he is really anoying i dont think salvage is mafia, he is just drawing too much attention, i think that would be a stupid thing to do as mafia.
adam2046
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Joined April 2008
adam2046
Unvote
Vote: Jaqennnthebox
Since you have yet to draw attention, that must mean you are mafia.
Flawless logic.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
on the other hand you're not drawing too much attention , are you mafia?


:P
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
oh stop ninjaing me guys.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
What the hell I posted something and it does not show

I had meant to post:

Lybydose wrote:

I guess I can put you in the latter group then huh

Salvage wrote:

why's that , i actually find me pretty good at it.
Did you, like, just claim Mafia?
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
i don't get your point krzy , mafia as the game , not the role , and i won't roleclaim d1 , kthx.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY

Salvage wrote:

mafia as the game
oh okay
bmin11
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bmin11
You make my life hard, Salvage. Now I just want to stop reading this thread ;~;
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
WHY
DO
YOU
USE
A
SPACE
BEFORE
EACH
COMMA
?
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

pieguy1372 wrote:

That's only because LS appeared to be taking it seriously. >.<//
It's called pressure. It's a good way to try to force out scum.

That being said I still am suspicious of you for voting without reading the thread or having read the thread joining on the bandwagon anyway. I highly expect it was the former though.

That being said salvage is also being highly suspicious to me. However I'm not really sure if it's suspicious suspicious or animask suspicious.
Rantai
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Joined July 2010
Rantai
It feels a lot closer to the 'try hard' suspicious opposed to the ... animask suspicious(sugarcoating... ;_;). Or it's his posting style that's rubbing me the wrong way?
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Joined December 2008
Lilac
The fact is, Salvage always posts like that, regardless of alignment. I've still got my eye on you though.
Rantai
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Joined July 2010
Rantai
While I don't particularly like meta...

I have not seen him be anything but scum so far (Wolf) and the only other game I've seen him play here is the touhou mafia that you moder-

You've got to be kidding me. I'll go swallow that bullet now.
Rantai
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Rantai
Referring to 'regardless of alignment'
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Joined December 2008
Lilac
You know what? Screw this. Vote: Salvage I hate you from WWG, and I'll keep hating you now.
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Rantai
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Rantai
I am going through meta and meta alone.

According to my searching he has/is playing 2 games, that wolf one where he was a wolf and the concurrent touhou game. (if he has played another one I will drop this straight away). You say he plays the same 'regardless of alignment' but he has only ever been revealed once as a scum. I put two and two together and came up with that conclusion because it's the only logical one I can think of.

I am not discussing another thread's dealings, just my observations of the significance of your post in this game.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Joined December 2008
Lilac
Goddamnit I thought of Yellowswift or whatever his frickin' name is.
Rantai
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Rantai
Oh ok. Then I will back off now.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
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Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Lilac wrote:

Goddamnit I thought of Yellowswift or whatever his frickin' name is.
"Yellowswift" is fine. I've heard combinations like these and I am not offended by any of them.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Joined December 2008
Lilac
Vash was a better name to remember.

Unvote. I hate too many people, I just need to calm down or something......Really really long day.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
I swear to God I thought Salvage was in Less Experimental Mafia 2.

HoS: Swift and Salvage. One of you two are the mafia and I determine to find out who it is...tomorrow.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
71 posts
Joined July 2008
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
My gut has a feeling that you're on the right track with Salvage, but I don't think it'd be necessary to make a vote D1. It's just how I play.

Also, when pieguy mentioned his strategy, I have a slight feeling that he might be mafia.
Mara
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Joined November 2009
Mara

LadySuburu wrote:

suspicious suspicious or animask suspicious.
I'm a newbie. What kind of suspicious is "animask suspicious"?
LadySuburu
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Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

LunaticMara wrote:

I'm a newbie. What kind of suspicious is "animask suspicious"?
The kind of suspicious that makes me suspicious of them regardless of alignment.

I reference it because it seemed that animask would always do something that would be suspicious even though pretty much every time he was town.

In short: It's their personality and how they tend to act regardless in these games.
Mara
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Mara
Ah, I understand now.
Salvage
590 posts
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Salvage

LadySuburu wrote:

It's called pressure. It's a good way to try to force out scum.



That being said salvage is also being highly suspicious to me. However I'm not really sure if it's suspicious suspicious or animask suspicious.

You kinda contradict you right there , you talk about pressure to find out scum then you find me highly suspicious for using pressure to try to find scum.


Lilac wrote:

HoS: Swift and Salvage. One of you two are the mafia and I determine to find out who it is...tomorrow.

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

My gut has a feeling that you're on the right track with Salvage.


so smart swift.






bmin11 wrote:

You make my life hard, Salvage. Now I just want to stop reading this thread ;~;


boohoo D:



Whatever i just woke up , not much to say , LS got my attention tho :o.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Salvage wrote:

You kinda contradict you right there , you talk about pressure to find out scum then you find me highly suspicious for using pressure to try to find scum.
Where did I say I found you suspicious for using pressure to try to find scum?

Trying to put words in my mouth isn't nice you know.

Vote: Salvage
Mashley
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Mashley
Vote Salvage
Jesus christ you're scummy
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
what do you mean? i quoted the first sentence cause it's exactly what i'm doing and then you say that you find me highly suspicious cause of that .. don't try to get away with yours here ls , your not good at being mafia.
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
also , don't make me roleclaim d1 guys , seriously?
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Salvage wrote:

what do you mean? i quoted the first sentence cause it's exactly what i'm doing and then you say that you find me highly suspicious cause of that .. don't try to get away with yours here ls , your not good at being mafia.
Since you know so much about what I find you highly suspicious for, why don't you go ahead and quote a few of the posts I find you suspicious for?

Also, I really like how you're baselessly accusing pretty much everyone of being mafia. Multiple people who've attacked you too, heavy OMGUS.

Since it's fitting...

Don't try to get away with your act here Salvage, you're not good at being mafia.
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

My gut has a feeling that you're on the right track with Salvage, but I don't think it'd be necessary to make a vote D1. It's just how I play.

I think this person is mafia but I won't vote him
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

oh btw am I voting salvage yet?

If he turns up mafia Backfire is also totally mafia. Mark me wordsss

Vote: Salvage
Salvage
590 posts
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Salvage
It's cause i'm not mafia right now .. you pretty much know it anyways so it's kinda useless to discuss this with you.


Also :



Roleclaim : Spy Infiltrator, i'm kind of a watcher/tracker depends on what i want .. so can we stop wasting time with me please.
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
usually you claim some flavor to go along with things in a PYP game.
Salvage
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Joined January 2010
Salvage
what do you mean
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
what video game are you
Salvage
590 posts
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Salvage
i don't really know since i sent : deus ex human revolution , splinter cell and metal gear solid. So yeah i could be pretty much any of those , i think i'm splinter cell tho.
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
probably that, yeah. Unvote then becuase Sam fischer is awesome and never lynch power roles.
adam2046
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adam2046
So did we really have to force a roleclaim this early?
Salvage
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Salvage
seems like it , i said i didn't want to roleclaim this early ..i don't think my role is that important anyways , but since i'm the only one who roleclaimed i'm probabbly gonna die n1 .. anyways LS is mafia imo.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
Unvote

Nothing was forced either adam, Salvage claimed early on his own. (After being pretty suspicious and gaining a decent amount of votes.)

Unfortunately now we're left with Salvage who won't be providing us any real information except night results assuming he's telling the truth and doesn't die.
Salvage
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Salvage
so are you gonna kill me LS?
adam2046
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adam2046
You've killed yourself.
Mara
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Mara

Salvage wrote:

Roleclaim : Spy Infiltrator, i'm kind of a watcher/tracker depends on what i want .. so can we stop wasting time with me please.
What do you mean with "kind of"?

Also I think you are from Deus Ex Human Revolution. Why?

ANSWER
DLC.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Salvage wrote:

so are you gonna kill me LS?
Questions like that are pointless.

If I'm Town, I answer no.

If I'm independant, I answer no.

If I'm neutral, I answer no.

If I'm mafia, I answer no.

Please try to find mafia and explain your reasonings, and not say "X person who voted me is mafia, so is Y over there for no reason, and Z because they're suspecting me for reason B even though that had nothing to do with why they suspect me."

As far as I can tell, you haven't stated one good actual reason why any of the people you've said are mafia actually are mafia.
adam2046
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adam2046
Also:

LadySuburu wrote:

Nothing was forced either adam, Salvage claimed early on his own. (After being pretty suspicious and gaining a decent amount of votes.)

xXxSavageManxXx wrote:

GUYS! IF YOU KEEP VOTING ME IMMA GONNA ROLECLAIM

Hairflip58 wrote:

Vote: Salvage
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

adam2046 wrote:

Also:

xXxSavageManxXx wrote:

GUYS! IF YOU KEEP VOTING ME IMMA GONNA ROLECLAIM

Hairflip58 wrote:

Vote: Salvage
Point taken.

It still was his own decision, he barely had half the required votes for a lynch if that.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

LadySuburu wrote:

It still was his own decision, he barely had half the required votes for a lynch if that.
EBWOP: I think, I skimmed the votes.
Salvage
590 posts
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Salvage
You pretty much know my playstyle LS , and even knowing that you said i was highly suspicious trying to incriminate me. That's why i think you're mafia , but as everyone knows .. conclusions can't be taken D1 that easily .. so either we go with a plan right now or we do nothing and waste a day.
LadySuburu
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Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

Salvage wrote:

You pretty much know my playstyle LS , and even knowing that you said i was highly suspicious trying to incriminate me. That's why i think you're mafia , but as everyone knows .. conclusions can't be taken D1 that easily .. so either we go with a plan right now or we do nothing and waste a day.
So, how do I know your playstyle? If I'm not mistaken I'm in two games with you right now and haven't run into you before. I can only potentially guess that you may be similar to animask, who by the way I also always see as suspicious.

Also, you're right about it being D1. That's why when you and pieguy both were suspicious, I mentioned it. Should I just sit quiet and not mention any of my thoughts about the game? Should I not call attention to anyone that I see as suspicious and just let them do what they're doing? I dunno, but I'm pretty sure it's better than RVS for me to mention these things.
Salvage
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Salvage
so again, i'm scummy for scumhunting .. i'd need to improve it a little bit i guess. And i said you know my playstyle cause i pretty much told you everything i was gonna do and why on WWV.



i still don't know why i get compared to animask, i readed his games before and he's playstyle it's not even close to mine, but whatever .. and i didn't said you should sit quiet, i wasn't doing that exactly neither .. it's too early to come into conclusions right now since we don't have enough information yet.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
"if you vote for me I will roleclaim" is really no reason not to vote someone. Mafia is gonna roleclaim too in that situation.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Salvage wrote:

so again, i'm scummy for scumhunting .. i'd need to improve it a little bit i guess. And i said you know my playstyle cause i pretty much told you everything i was gonna do and why on WWV.
WWG is somewhat different than this, and you were mafia (wolf) in that game.


As for comparing you to animask, it doesn't mean you two play the same. It means that both of you may end up suspicious to me regardless of your role (due to the way you each play, even if different.)

I won't know until this game ends. (Maybe not even then.)
adam2046
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adam2046

Wojjan wrote:

"if you vote for me I will roleclaim" is really no reason not to vote someone. Mafia is gonna roleclaim too in that situation.
There were better ways to go about it. We didn't need him to roleclaim.
Rantai
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Rantai
Urgh.

That sounded extremely desperate. No idea what to think right now.
Wojjan
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Wojjan

adam2046 wrote:

There were better ways to go about it. We didn't need him to roleclaim.
yes like a no lynch
Mashley
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Mashley
Okay then unvote
Salvage
590 posts
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Salvage
Whatever , we have something to move on with right now , and start making a plan now , unless there is a strongman on the mafia the doctor can save me and i'll bring some information on the table for d2.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
Salvage I'd suggest you self-watch so you can confirm the doctor as town when it comes to that.
NoHitter
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Topic Starter
NoHitter
VOTE COUNT:
Salvage (1) - foulcoon
Backfire (1) - DeathxShinigami
pieguy1372 (1) - Lybydose
LunaticMara (1) - pieguy1372
Jaqennn (1) - adam2046
Wojjan (1) - bmin11

Not Voting (13) - Rantai, LunaticMara, fishie, Lilac, Salvage, Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rolled, Mashley, Wojjan, Backfire, Jaqennn, KRZY, LadySuburu

Clarifications:
1) You may not target yourself in regards to actions.
2) Unvoting isn't required but appreciated.

Edit: Modified clarification to be more specific.
Last edited by NoHitter , edited 2 times in total.
Salvage
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Salvage
nvm
Salvage
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Salvage
^

Edited that post cause i tought i had a vote on swift but i forgot i unvoted him.
foulcoon
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foulcoon

NoHItter wrote:

Clarifications:
1) You may not target yourself.
is this true for all roles, or was this in regards to voting. if you were addressing wojjan's suggestion did you just confirm salvage as spy infiltrator? lol

also shut up adam. read his posts, its not like he was being attacked as an innocent. he was acting like an arrogant asshat calling people bad at mafia, and accusing multiple people with no information to go on. there is a difference between an FoS and saying "X is mafia".
NoHitter
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NoHitter

foulcoon wrote:

is this true for all roles, or was this in regards to voting.
This is referring to all roles with applicable actions.
Jaqennn
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Jaqennn
wow! just got back from college and you guys have had quite a talk and salvage already rolleclaim, im kinda lost now, everyone is playing agressive, but we still are on d1
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
hey, a roleclaim.

roleclaim: team recruiter

This is probably because I sent in Pro Evolution Soccer as my first choice. I can choose a player at night and gain day/night talking privileges with that player. If said player is scum, I die.

Basically I can target Salvage at night and see if his claims are true. If, for some reason, I end up dead the next day, you know who to vote.
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