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Chris_old

akrolsmir wrote:

Way to lurk without posting anything, DxS.
he knows he's off the hook
0_o
Sorry, forgot to post this here:
viewtopic.php?p=1031900#p1031900

0_o wrote:

I will be gone all day Sunday
reading
0_o
Alrighty

-I agree with Rolled about akro, animask & DxS being likely town
-I think I got what LS was getting at, thus I believe he is also town
-Mashley lynch sounds good.

vote Mashley
Topic Starter
Two_old
Day 1 ends in 48 minutes
NoHitter
... Why do I always wake up to an infinite number of posts?

So Mashley is the one being wagoned now?
I honestly don't see how he's more suspicious than others atm.
What exactly did he do except ask about the so called inability to roleclaim?

I'm keeping my vote on Swift.
NoHitter
Also just so you guys know just in case,
Second on my list is Chris for his bad logic on insisting a self-preservation vote.

And perhaps we can tone down the fluff posts?
Chris_old

NoHItter wrote:

Also just so you guys know just in case,
Second on my list is Chris for his bad logic on insisting a self-preservation vote.

And perhaps we can tone down the fluff posts?
god forbid someone makes sure they stay alive

and lol @ you claiming anyone has bad logic after pyp
Topic Starter
Two_old
Day 1 is now over. No more talking.

Mashley was just taking a nap, but when he woke u-- well, he didn't wake up.

Mashley - Pure Soul (town) has been lynched

Final Vote Count

Mashley (5): Lybydose, LadySuburu, Wojjan, pieguy1372, 0_o

Swiftwolf Yellowtail (2): DeathxShinigami, NoHItter

Chris (1): foulcoon

Lybydose (1): animask

DeathxShinigami (1): akrolsmir

Not voting: Rantai, Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rolled, Mashley, Chris
Topic Starter
Two_old
It is now Night 1. wah my pretty image got removed somehow

Send all night actions within 24 hours of this post.
Topic Starter
Two_old
In the morning, you are all awoken to ear-shattering mewing. All of the old lady's cats got outside. k stopping rp here lazy

akrolsmir - Paranoid Cat Lady (Town Lie Detector) is dead

It's now Day 2. You have 72 hours until nightfall.
DeathxShinigami
Vote: Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Now I have more confidence you really are mafia...
pieguyn
Hm...only one kill happened, so that means we probably have no SK. However, we still might have one, if the doctor successfully protected someone or if the mafia and SK targeted the same person. :?

DxS, what makes you think Swiftwolf has a greater chance of being mafia than before?
Rantai
Apologies for sleeping through the lynch time.

It might be a bit late now but

@Wojjan - sifting through all that fluff, I don't see what Mashley did to be lynched. At worst all he did was make several neutral posts.

pieguy1372 wrote:

Regarding Mashley, I saw a few posts from him, and while some were neutral, he did accuse a few people in one of them. However, he didn't actually vote anyone. IMO, this does seem somewhat suspicious. unvote: NoHItter, vote: Mashley
I actually don't understand this. Yes, he did accuse 2 people but he said he didn't want to vote because he didn't believe a gut vote was appropriate (which I agree with). So how did not wanting to vote due make him any more suspicious?

From what I can tell you were more or less promoting random voting (which a gut vote is essentially is imo.)
DeathxShinigami
@pieguy

Two town members died within the last day. Swift's logic still doesn't make much sense and he already was on a bunch of other player's suspicions.
akrolsmir
A higher power is telling me to focus on my homework I guess.

GL guys.
Rantai

DeathxShinigami wrote:

@pieguy

Two town members died within the last day. Swift's logic still doesn't make much sense and he already was on a bunch of other player's suspicions.
Which doesn't explain how he's more suspicious (outside the whole, there are less people so there is a higher chance he's anti-town argument)

The same can be said for you (minus the logic, which can happen for an array of reasons).
pieguyn
IMO, trying to be neutral is a sign of being mafia, and not voting anyone is a sign of wanting to stay neutral. Even if it's just a gut vote, it's better than no vote at all. :?

Him saying that he didn't want to vote on his gut is somewhat WIFOM...it turned out that he was town, but if we didn't lynch anyone because of something like that, it would be easy enough for the mafia to just slip by.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

@pieguy

Two town members died within the last day. Swift's logic still doesn't make much sense and he already was on a bunch of other player's suspicions.
I'm not sure how exactly that makes him more likely to be mafia... the only thing that changed is that two people died. o.o
Rantai
Knowing that, what mafia would stay neutral?

Saying neutrality is a sign of mafia is about as factual as saying being aggressive is town. A person could easily change their play style to manipulate such thoughts (ie this alignment acts in these ways). In this case, I believe he was either indecisive or more likely, detached from the game. Now I know that doesn't help town at all but it's by no means a scum tell to me.

Hmm how does saying not wanting to vote on gut make it wifom? It sounds like a legitimate reason to not vote. Also, on the flip side, mislynching based on... someone not wanting to vote without evidence also allows a mafia to slip by and leaves us with nothing again.

Also reading through again I don't think I believe LS's claims, call me skeptical.
Rantai
And just to clarify something, this is in regards to D1.
Sleep Powder
I still feel suspicious of Lybydose...

HoS Lybydose

I get what Rantai is saying about DxS being suspicious too. Based on who voted for who and
who got lynched.
Sleep Powder
Oh wait, Rantai didn't say that. Well I guess I was just misreading things or something... I think Lybydose and/or DxS are mafia.
pieguyn

Rantai wrote:

Knowing that, what mafia would stay neutral?
One who doesn't want to help town progress, because town progress is bad for mafia...

Saying neutrality is a sign of mafia is about as factual as saying being aggressive is town. A person could easily change their play style to manipulate such thoughts (ie this alignment acts in these ways).
Yes, and that's one of the only pieces of information available D1. It might be manipulable, but there's not really any other information to use. IMO, there is still a link correlating neutrality and mafia, though a weaker one, but I've noticed it still exists so this isn't entirely WIFOM.

In this case, I believe he was either indecisive or more likely, detached from the game. Now I know that doesn't help town at all but it's by no means a scum tell to me.
That's WIFOM again, because the mafia could pretend to do that.

Hmm how does saying not wanting to vote on gut make it wifom? It sounds like a legitimate reason to not vote. Also, on the flip side, mislynching based on... someone not wanting to vote without evidence also allows a mafia to slip by and leaves us with nothing again.
It's WIFOM because the mafia could say the same thing. :?
Rantai

pieguy1372 wrote:

One who doesn't want to help town progress, because town progress is bad for mafia...
I think you misunderstood this one. I meant, knowing it's a scum tell or whatever, what mafia would stay neutral? Town progress could easily be taken off track by a well played mafia.

pieguy1372 wrote:

Yes, and that's one of the only pieces of information available D1. It might be manipulable, but there's not really any other information to use.
Bandwagoning, overreactions something along those lines would be more solid than a preset criteria of playstyles.

pieguy1372 wrote:

IMO, there is still a link correlating neutrality and mafia, though a weaker one, but I've noticed it still exists so this isn't entirely WIFOM. .
I've noticed that it also exists with any other alignment >.>

pieguy1372 wrote:

It's WIFOM because the mafia could say the same thing. :?
Which part were you referring to?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
DxS would only vote for me and state that I'm more suspicious of the previous night... either that, or he just has a grudge on me.

Too bad his teammate is at risk.

Vote: NoHitter

I KNOW you're mafia.
Rantai
Um care to elaborate on how you know this?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Nighttime investigations.
Rantai
Wow. That was the most 'subtle' roleclaim I've ever seen.

Vote: NoHItter

Seeing as I believe you, I think I shall go with this.
Rantai
Oh yeah I'll just state now I'm feeling uneasy about pieguy. If only because I completely disagree about his play method (just because you can hide behind it so easily).

Ie - 'you're acting like something that can be associated with just about every role, you must be mafia!'

Leads to being able to vote anyone with 'reasoning'.
Sleep Powder
Vote: NoHItter

If you're lying, you're bad at being mafia or planning something (or just bad at playing).
NoHitter
So I log in to this >.>
I knew it was a bad idea not to claim D1.

I'm not Mafia. I'm a Miller Graverobber.
Basically I get detailed role information about those who died during the Night, the next day by digging their graves.
I just assume that digging people's graves looks suspicious. That's probably why I'm a Miller.

I also received a PM stating that Swift is "Cop + 'Another Role'". I can also give the exact title of his role too.
That along with the fact that I've been investigated proves that the PM I received was indeed true, and that Swift is really a Cop.

I chose not to claim D1 as opposed to standard Miller play, because it would basically turn the entire discussion into WIFOM and perhaps make me a target for roleblocks and making me unable to use my ability.

So far, I was said that akrolsmir's role, Paranoid Cat Lady, was a "One-Shot Lie Detector (ability unused)"
Rantai
Hold on, isn't the miller role usually hidden?

I'm confused on why you got his role if you receive info based on the dead.

Also:

So far, I was said that akrolsmir's role, Paranoid Cat Lady, was a "One-Shot Lie Detector (ability unused)"
Typo?
NoHitter

Rantai wrote:

Hold on, isn't the miller role usually hidden?
Not really. In some cases the person is told they are a Miller.

Rantai wrote:

I'm confused on why you got his role if you receive info based on the dead.
Didn't akrolsmir die the previous Night? >.>

Rantai wrote:

Also:

So far, I was said that akrolsmir's role, Paranoid Cat Lady, was a "One-Shot Lie Detector (ability unused)"
Typo?
Yeah that said should have been "told", more specifically by the mod.
Rantai

NoHItter wrote:

Didn't akrolsmir die the previous Night? >.>
Apologies for being unclear.

NoHItter wrote:

I also received a PM stating that Swift is "Cop + 'Another Role'". I can also give the exact title of his role too.
That along with the fact that I've been investigated proves that the PM I received was indeed true, and that Swift is really a Cop.
NoHitter
EBWOP:
Oh you were talking about Swift.
I received another role PM aside from my results.

It went something like this, paraphrasing:
"A voice tells you, 'Swiftwolf Yellowtail is XXX (Cop, YYY)'"
I censored the other parts. But if people want to, I can reveal them.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
!

The only way you would know is if you were mafia! My god does NOT tell anyone else! You're NOT a miller! You're flat-out lying!
Rantai
Ok hmm.

So this means you could also be an enabler, right?

Correct me if I got the rolenames wrong.

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

!

The only way you would know is if you were mafia! My god does NOT tell anyone else! You're NOT a miller! You're flat-out lying!
Uh I don't think mafia works that way, he could be anything at this stage.
Rantai
Kind of want to hear from everyone else first, need a bit more information.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
If you need me to role claim, I will.
Rantai
Save it for now.
NoHitter
PI suggest you don't, at least not yet.
Doing that would just ruin the point of me keeping it a secret.
Perhaps let me claim first then you can verify if that time does come.
At the moment though, I don't think it's wise for you to claim at least not without the consensus of everyone.
Chris_old
You don't really seem to be denying the fact you came back as Mafia though, NoHitter.

On top of that, you confirmed they are in fact a cop. Why shouldn't we believe them?

The only real question is if they are insane or not which unfortunately is possible.
Rantai
Swift, did your result come back as "mafia" or "guilty" or something else?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
It is possible that I am an insane cop, as they may give out false results. However, I'm quite sure NoHitter is hiding something.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Rantai: It turned out "mafia", not "guilty".
Rantai
I should have asked that first. Ok, that miller claim can be thrown out.
Chris_old

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Rantai: It turned out "mafia", not "guilty".
The plot thickens, dun dun dun.
NoHitter
I'm really a Miller >.>
I know I'm not Mafia, but I also can't deny the fact that Swift is a Cop too as what happened including the PM does prove it.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
I'll say this, and leave you to think about it: my God is a cruel one.
Rantai
The only thing stopping me from being completely convinced is the possibility of insanity : \
Chris_old
it is possible they are both mafia and are just liars
NoHitter

Rantai wrote:

The only thing stopping me from being completely convinced is the possibility of insanity : \
IDK about insanity, but the very fact I was given a Miller in my role has to mean something.
Perhaps there's another cop?
Rantai

Chris wrote:

it is possible they are both mafia and are just liars
That would be a huge ass move by Swift. Huge.
NoHitter
Mod: Are the terms 'Mafia' and 'Guilty' interchangeable when it comes to results?
Topic Starter
Two_old
sure
Rantai
>.< well then.
Chris_old
Does anyone have any more information they'd like to share about last night
0_o
Calling BS on NoHItter's roleclaim. A miller whose "results" are completely unverifiable? Does this not seem wayyy too convenient to anyone?

vote NoHItter
NoHitter

0_o wrote:

Calling BS on NoHItter's roleclaim. A miller whose "results" are completely unverifiable? Does this not seem wayyy too convenient to anyone?

vote NoHItter
IDK if it is part of my role or it was just a chance thing , but I can say the contents of the PM I did get, and Swift can verify it.
0_o

NoHItter wrote:

IDK if it is part of my role or it was just a chance thing , but I can say the contents of the PM I did get, and Swift can verify it.
Mafia Role Cop?
NoHitter
You vote me because you say that we can't verify any of what I say.
Then when I do give a way on how to verify something, you brush it off and say it's a scum aux power.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
I'd like to give off one final clue:
There is a 50-50 chance as to whether or not the mafia gets to know about my role.


If you can't put the statements together, I'll put a roleclaim.
Rantai
Why delete that other post? D:
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
I realized I made a mistake on making a claim there, as I didn't do enough research on it to back it up.
0_o

NoHItter wrote:

You vote me because you say that we can't verify any of what I say.
Then when I do give a way on how to verify something, you brush it off and say it's a scum aux power.
I said we can't verify your claimed results, not the thing about Swift. I didn't doubt that you got Swift's role, but it doesn't really matter with regards to whether you're scum or not.
Rolled

Chris wrote:

You don't really seem to be denying the fact you came back as Mafia though, NoHitter.
This is important, and was overlooked. NoHitter never questioned swift's alignment, and the possibility that he could be making up his night results.

I realized as swift kept talking it became less and less likely he could be making his role up, but the fact that nohitter never questioned the possibility from the get-go alarmed me, him being a very analytical player and all.
0_o

NoHItter wrote:

I'm not Mafia. I'm a Miller Graverobber.
A miller is a pro-town player who turns up guilty under investigation.
Chris_old
Wouldn't that technically make NoHitter come back as town then, assuming Swiftwolf is insane?


Dun dun dun.
Rolled
I considered reading the wiki before I posted, but then I'm like nah.
Rantai
Yes. But we have nearly no way to tell -.-
0_o
He's not insane; NoHItter is either mafia or miller, and they both would turn up guilty under a sane cop's results.

Claiming miller is really the only way for the mafia to get out of a guilty result aside from questioning sanity (which wouldn't be effective for too long). What's more likely: Swift hit one of 3-4 mafia, or he hit a miller which may or may not even exist?
pieguyn
All right, what the hell? That roleclaim sounds incredibly convenient, and it would be very easy to lie in that way if he was mafia. Plus, Swiftwolf's posts sound very... "innocent". The situation of Swiftwolf being a cop and NoHItter being mafia makes sense IMO... vote: NoHItter though if he's town, Swiftwolf is definitely mafia. Even with 5 mafia, we can afford another mislynch, and if this is a mislynch we have a confirmed mafia day 3, so it's definitely worth going for.

@Rantai:

Rantai wrote:

I think you misunderstood this one. I meant, knowing it's a scum tell or whatever, what mafia would stay neutral? Town progress could easily be taken off track by a well played mafia.
A mafia would stay neutral to hinder town progress. Yes, a skilled mafia could actually throw it off, but that's an easier and more convenient shortcut, especially on D1.

Bandwagoning, overreactions something along those lines would be more solid than a preset criteria of playstyles.
I really disagree with this very much...though I guess this is a difference in what we consider to be scumtells. :?

I've noticed that it also exists with any other alignment >.>
IMO, that's the idea here. By D1, it is reasonable to assume that the more aggressive players or town. It's like when you're playing poker, you can classify players into various profiles (e.g. rocks, maniacs) and then change your playing based on that (ex. if a maniac raises a lot, it would be more worthwhile to call).

Which part were you referring to?
This:
Hmm how does saying not wanting to vote on gut make it wifom?
I guess this whole argument is a difference in our playstyles, but go ahead and accuse me if you wish = =||
pieguyn
Oh I made a mistake, with 5 mafia we would be at LYLO with a myslynch. With 4 we could have another mislynch.
Chris_old
vote: NoHitter

he actually tried to claim I was "second on his list" even though I'm obviously town

now he turns up mafia and claims miller

nothx
Chris_old

pieguy1372 wrote:

Oh I made a mistake, with 5 mafia we would be at LYLO with a myslynch. With 4 we could have another mislynch.
I doubt there would be 5 mafia in a 15 person game

seems like too many
Topic Starter
Two_old
Vote Count

NoHItter (6): Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rantai, animask, 0_o, pieguy1372, Chris

Swiftwolf Yellowtail (1): DeathxShinigami

7 votes to lynch
pieguyn
I agree, I was just giving the highest number where we could mislynch today and still not lose. I think it's a lot more likely there's 4 mafia.
0_o

pieguy wrote:

if he's town, Swiftwolf is definitely mafia
Not really, NoHItter claimed miller, remember? Swift is quite likely to be a cop regardless of how NoHItter flips.
pieguyn
Typo fix:

"players or town" -> "players are town"
pieguyn

0_o wrote:

pieguy wrote:

if he's town, Swiftwolf is definitely mafia
Not really, NoHItter claimed miller, remember? Swift is quite likely to be a cop regardless of how NoHItter flips.
oops :? I'm not sure how I forgot about that. I blame the fact that I just woke up and can't think straight... >.>

I agree, if NoHItter is town, Swiftwolf might not be mafia.
Rantai
@ pieguy, nah that's good enough for me, I just wanted to see your reasoning. Though I still heavily disagree for the most part.
LadySuburu

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

There is a 50-50 chance as to whether or not the mafia gets to know about my role.
This makes me pretty sure that NoHItter is mafia, but Hammering right now would be a horrible idea for multiple reasons.

Also, someone viewing this thread, mind posting something real quick?
Rantai
Hi, I am posting in this thread with the intention of fulfilling a request.
LadySuburu

Rantai wrote:

Hi, I am posting in this thread with the intention of fulfilling a request.
Awesome, thanks. Now I don't have to worry as much anymore.
LadySuburu
I should mention that the results of Mashley's flip invalidated the main reason I was suspicious of DxS.
Rantai
Should I stop trying to understand?

No actually I'll sleep first, it's been a long day.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
"Nearly no way to tell"? Guess you people haven't checked the clues.

Roleclaim: Fanatic Worshiper (ie: Cop, Psychic)

Option 1: Every night, I'm allowed to pray to my god and ask for someone's role. However, my god is cruel, and gives me a 50-50 chance. One side of that is to be unnoticed. The other is to have my role given to the mafia. (NoHitter CONFIRMED the second half by stating that I am part cop. PLUS, he even STATED that I had another role!)

Option 2: If it is night 1, I am able to sacrifice myself. Of course, doing so does nothing. However, I am able to submit TWO names and get their information. Instead of getting this information myself, it goes to two other people. I have a feeling that DxS watched me in this situation, but right now, all I know is that NoHitter is mafia.
NoHitter
Oh well gg for me.
Man why do I always get unlucky when it comes to Cops.
As planned, self-hammer time to cut discussion.
BTW guys, you can't post after the hammer as it's Night time already :D

Had fun guys. Oh and I don't know if you would believe me but I was actually scumhunting for the SK. Not that you guys will believe me.

Now that that's' over with...
Vote: NoHItter
Topic Starter
Two_old
Day 2 is now over. Give me a minute pls thx
Topic Starter
Two_old
Final Vote Count

NoHItter (7): Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Rantai, animask, 0_o, pieguy1372, Chris, NoHItter

Swiftwolf Yellowtail (1): DeathxShinigami

Not Voting: Rolled, LadySuburu, Wojjan, foulcoon, Lybydose


NoHItter - Mafia Graverobber was lynched
Topic Starter
Two_old
It's now Night 2. Send all night actions within 24 hours.
Topic Starter
Two_old
It's now Day 3. You wake up to find...

Rolled - Townsperson dead :(

You have 72 hours until nightfall.
Chris_old
Wojjan/Foulcoon/Lybydose haven't posted in 2 days

mod: prod ^
Topic Starter
Two_old
what do you think is different from a prod and that pm I sent everyone like 2 minutes ago
Chris_old
prod means they're required to post
Topic Starter
Two_old
I don't have a prodding rule. If inactivity becomes a problem, I'll just replace/modkill case by case.
Chris_old

Two wrote:

I don't have a prodding rule. If inactivity becomes a problem, I'll just replace/modkill case by case.
it's a problem now cause they haven't posted in 2 days~
0_o
Seeing as yesterday only lasted about 12 hours, and nobody posted for the last 24 hours, I'd say not posting for the last 48 hours is somewhat reasonable?
Topic Starter
Two_old
day 2 ended fast
Chris_old

0_o wrote:

Seeing as yesterday only lasted about 12 hours, and nobody posted for the last 24 hours, I'd say not posting for the last 48 hours is somewhat reasonable?
they are the only 3 which is why I called them out

none of them voted/posted at all

even though it doesn't prove guilt it's still more than worth pointing out

and not having prod rules is dumb
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Yeah, D2 did end quickly. Plus, my FoS from D1 was quite interesting. Remember when I FoS'd Wojjan? Yeah, I thought he was just being rude. Apparently, my investigations show him as part of the mafia, as well. Bye, Wojjan!

Vote: Wojjan
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