Funny, I was going to do just that. Is this guy new or something?Rolled wrote:
unvote.
vote: Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Funny, I was going to do just that. Is this guy new or something?Rolled wrote:
unvote.
vote: Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Do you recall the last Mind Mafia?akrolsmir wrote:
Funny, I was going to do just that. Is this guy new or something?
Yeah... It's RVS.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Oh, dear. Going to past games to get me killed again. Is this your strategy? Look, I know last game was a total mess, but believe me, I'm not going to run back to that round ever again.
Major over reaction to a vote.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
..okay.. everyone seems to be voting like there's no tomorrow. I'm not gonna vote right now, though, because it's a bit too soon for me to declare anyone as mafia, but I will say that DxS is a bit odd for throwing his vote on me. Why do you want me to start talking, anyway?
It should be obvious you know.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
How would that be a major overreaction? I just want an answer.
This guy knows what I do mean.NoHItter wrote:
Basically, you overreacted to a RVS vote.
Votes during RVS are usually placeholder votes that change upon someone doing something suspicious.
I almost never do anymore. lolWojjan wrote:
Vote: LS
not voting during RVS hmmmmm?
If not, its lynch or be lynched.Chris wrote:
swift it's obvious what you have to do to not get lynched
Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Chris: Actually, if I voted NoHitter right now, he'd be the one to get lynched if it was the last vote. He's the only one that was voted against before I was.
Man I wish my defense was as brilliant as this.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
You don't have any proof that I'm scum, or even suspicious. And don't bring up what's already been brought up, that doesn't work.
You missed at least one there. Trying to blame me for nothing hmmmmmmm?Chris wrote:
faceman
DxS
pieguy
lybydose
who did I missLybydose wrote:
You missed at least one there. Trying to blame me for nothing hmmmmmmm?Chris wrote:
faceman
DxS
pieguy
lybydose
sounds like you're just talking out of your ass unless you can tell me who I missedLybydose wrote:
You tell me since you seem to be so keen on everyone's posting habits here.
Once above, priorities change.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Actually, you do have a point about voting Lyby right now. I WOULD be saving myself, however, if anyone that voted for Lyby unvotes, I'm in trouble.
Recall the pregame, Chris. Two and I pointed out that it's the FIRST vote that counts, not the LAST.
..Oh? I seem to be misinformed about this. Then again, I never really knew much about this game since before I started playing it. Guess it's time to do more research!LadySuburu wrote:
Once above, priorities change.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Actually, you do have a point about voting Lyby right now. I WOULD be saving myself, however, if anyone that voted for Lyby unvotes, I'm in trouble.
Recall the pregame, Chris. Two and I pointed out that it's the FIRST vote that counts, not the LAST.
wordLadySuburu wrote:
Once above, priorities change.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Actually, you do have a point about voting Lyby right now. I WOULD be saving myself, however, if anyone that voted for Lyby unvotes, I'm in trouble.
Recall the pregame, Chris. Two and I pointed out that it's the FIRST vote that counts, not the LAST.
Maybe you should learn to read. This person has posted once in this game since this game started.Chris wrote:
l2readLybydose wrote:
That was hard
obviously I meant in the game, not forum wide
rantai didn't voteLybydose wrote:
Maybe you should learn to read. This person has posted once in this game since this game started.
every post he makes isn't exactly helping people not bandwagonLybydose wrote:
ugh, fine, nevermind then.
That being said, you do seem to be pushing quite hard for a lynch on me off the basis of nothing (RVS on Rantai). ie, trying to push Swiftwolf's vote on me when it's 2 vs 2 votes and questioning him when he doesn't do so and we're not even through the first day out of three so why would he even need to do that yet?
because defending someone else usually shows you've aligned somehow if the accusation isn't really stupid to begin withSwiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
You have a point there, Chris. If we were both mafia, why would he not be helping me? ..but you know what strikes me as odd? You're helping me, and if your statement is true, then why are you helping the mafia? ..Okay, that isn't helping turn my case around, but still, I'm sure you get my point.
he's like an injured dog, the closer you corner him the more aggressive he's gonna getso you're trying to defend him then? You clearly don't want him to become cornered (and thus act aggressive). Why? He your mafia buddy or something? Why aren't you questioning me for not voting swiftwolf to save myself?
I did question you for not voting him ^ read upLybydose wrote:
he's like an injured dog, the closer you corner him the more aggressive he's gonna getso you're trying to defend him then? You clearly don't want him to become cornered (and thus act aggressive). Why? He your mafia buddy or something? Why aren't you questioning me for not voting swiftwolf to save myself?
You're helping me, and if your statement is true, then why are you helping the mafia?Unvote, vote Swift
Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
You don't have any proof that I'm scum, or even suspicious. And don't bring up what's already been brought up, that doesn't work.
Where did this come from? How exactly is not voting for Lybydose = Lybydose and Swift being mafia?Chris wrote:
Swifttail is super defensive over random votes and won't vote for lybydose to put them over the lynch mark
Why are you suggesting a self-preservation vote this early in the Day?Chris wrote:
so actually if you voted lybydose you'd be saving yourself from a lynch
Yeah... I think you should use a more solid reason for voting someone.pieguy1372 wrote:
vote: NoHItter. I have a gut feeling he's mafia (though I'm not sure about some of the more inactive players). >.<
I think you should change your Day 1 voting scheme then. Using only your gut is a bad voting scheme.pieguy1372 wrote:
I always vote on my gut day 1. It's just basic statistics, the less information you have the higher the sample variance is and the higher chance you will have a false positive with a lower critical value. As a result, on day 1 there really isn't enough information to make a substantiated claim unless someone does something really obvious = =//
You mean RQS?pieguy1372 wrote:
I also found it somewhat suspicious how you didn't do RVS "because people didn't like it"...anything to get information is good IMO. Yes, RVS itself doesn't give much information, but it would have definitely started a conversation that could lead to information.
I guess NoHitter just can't win. Also, just wondering, was your gut ever right? Since I recall you suspecting me in about every game.pieguy1372 wrote:
I also found it somewhat suspicious how you didn't doRVSRQS "because people didn't like it"
Opps, sorry not mind mafia. It was less experiment, I knew it was one of LS's games >.<akrolsmir wrote:
I would totally vote Swifttail right now, except meta apparently excuses him? (rantai, I looked through both Mind Games, he didn't seem to be in there)
Yes, but you don't self preservation vote until nearing the deadline.Chris wrote:
self preservation above all d1
that's not hard to understand
NoHItter wrote:
Yes, but you don't self preservation vote until nearing the deadline.
glad to know you're contributingRolled wrote:
NoHItter wrote:
Yes, but you don't self preservation vote until nearing the deadline.
Chris: Uggh, your posts remind me of Two except not as egocentric and obnoxious.aww thx for the compliment
Are you seriously suggesting to lynch for no reason because when we vote for a good reason they're usually town? What makes you think lynching on nothing will get a better chance at getting scum?pieguy1372 wrote:
Also, in every game I played the person lynched D1 was lynched "because he was suspicious" and he was always town. This is just basic statistics at hand as I mentioned before, especially when you consider the mafia tries to NOT be suspicious... This is just my idea of how to play the game, and IMO it's worked a lot better than lynching town members who screw up, instead of actually showing signs of wanting to hinder town progress or mislead us. >.>
How did what pieguy make you think we're both scum?Wojjan wrote:
NoHItter, pieguy, scum team of the year?
This statement:Not always trueChris wrote:
there is no information on d1
yes for the third timeNoHItter wrote:
How did what pieguy make you think we're both scum?Wojjan wrote:
NoHItter, pieguy, scum team of the year?
@Chris
So you still think that one should prioritize self-preservation over information in voting long before the deadline?
d1 d1 d1 d1 d1 d1 d1Rolled wrote:
Everything in this game is speculations. You can't even take the information you receive from the host as fact, as you now know ^__^
With your logic, a vanilla townie would just RV the whole way through a mafia game. All they have is speculation.
I feel you're underestimating the usefulness and power of speculation, though.
anything that is confirmedRolled wrote:
So what's classified as information as opposed to speculation?
my entire argument is based around d1Rolled wrote:
Do you realize how little in mafia is confirmed? Nine times out of ten a decision must be made without previous confirmation on whether it's good or bad.
This is really derailing the thread though. I'm just showing flaws in your argument.
what information can you gather that is useful d1 other than roleclaims?Rolled wrote:
Nobody is arguing that information on d1 is generally lower than information in later days. What people are arguing is that there is no information to be gathered day 1.
anyone you lynch d1 is going to be lynched blindly 100% of the time unless they just claim mafiaRantai wrote:
And there lies the disagreement (that I have at least).
I see information as anything that can be used to read a player, whether that be 'speculation' or otherwise. At the very least it could help with choosing a D1 lynch as opposed to blindly picking or 'gut voting'.
.....Wow ninjas.
tell me then what you've gathered from me posting? I'd love to hear thisRolled wrote:
So are you suggesting that we do not have more information on you than we have against somebody who has posted 0 times?
This conversation is such a derailer so just admit you are wrong and be on with it.
exactly, nothingRolled wrote:
I gathered that you're bad at mafia
I think you've got your games switched upRolled wrote:
If a hypothetical situation arises in which a bus driver were to switch you with player x, and player x dies, it's more likely that you are a strongman rather than you shooting yourself anticipating my switch. Hypothetically.
See, I concluded that due to information I gathered on day 1.