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Mind Game Mafia 2 (Killer Win!)

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Sleep Powder
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So far, I know that my role doesn't kill anyone. I also have no idea what it actually does yet. (No Forum PM response.)

Based on what everyone is saying (since I got nothing...), rust does seem to be suspicious, BUT foulcoon seemed to have been
the first to mention losing. Why did he focus on him being lynched and us losing the game? Also, you probably know that the things
you want lie detected won't go through. Saying "who killed who" would make it too obvious to find the killer.

What I need right now is a list of night actions from everyone who is stilll alive. (I just want everything organized and easy to read.)

animask
N1: None
N2: foulcoon & rust45
N3: None

Also, I'm planning on using my bus driver role tonight since I have a pretty good idea who the killer might be. Obviously I want to use WIFOM towards the killer. I should've tried to clarify my sanity more by telling someone to target one of my targets. Then, we see if the switch actually happened.
foulcoon
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The only reason I mentioned us losing is if you lynch the wrong person, and then one of us gets night killed the game is pretty much over.
pieguyn
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Coming up!

Rantai:

N1 - rust45 - no result
N2 - Haneii - no result
N3 - pieguy - no result

foulcoon:

N1 - animask - no result
N2 - pieguy1372 - no result
N3 - ?

animask:

N1 - no one
N2 - foulcoon & rust45 no result
N3 - no one

rust45:

N1 - Index-san Insane response (dead)
N2 - Haneii - Insane response
N3 - ?

me:

N1 - foulcoon - no result
N2 - bmin11 - no result (dead)
N3 - Rantai - no result

If rust was an enabler, how could he get an insane response, anyway? :?
Sleep Powder
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Analyze time~ barely

Okay... knowing that I was the bus driver, foulcoon thought of trying to kill me. He probably failed because he isn't the killer. Likely Pro-town

foulcoon and rust45 seem to be the most suspicious to me... mostly rust now.

Let's try a lie detect on him?
Rantai
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pieguy1372 wrote:

If rust was an enabler, how could he get an insane response, anyway? :?
A sanity cop makes the target and then he receives the results.
pieguyn
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In this case, anyone except rust45 can be the killer (why the killer be receiving those results under any circumstances?). If we do no cure, assuming there is only one killer, we have enough time left to lie detect 3 people.

Thus, it appears we have won this game. (Unless there's some master catch we all missed :?)

Who should we start with? I think we should start with Rantai, but as long as we check everyone it only affects how many people end up winning. >.<
LadySuburu
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pieguy1372 wrote:

it only affects how many people end up winning. >.<
Everyone but the killer will win if the killer is cured.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
That's what I meant. The longer we go without finding the killer, the less people win (because the killer will kill more people). :?
LadySuburu
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pieguy1372 wrote:

That's what I meant. The longer we go without finding the killer, the less people win (because the killer will kill more people). :?
/Everyone/ but the killer will win. Including the dead players.
pieguyn
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Oh, sorry.
Sleep Powder
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So my role is an insane role after all? rust45 has the sane role?

I was counting on finding the killer by using my bus driver ability...
LadySuburu
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pieguy1372 wrote:

Oh, sorry.
That's okay, I figured you misunderstood which is why I posted in the first place to clear up any misconceptions anyone might have had.
rust45
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animask wrote:

So my role is an insane role after all? rust45 has the sane role?

I was counting on finding the killer by using my bus driver ability...
I'm not sane at all, my told role is nothing like what I've found out.
Rantai
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pieguy1372 wrote:

In this case, anyone except rust45 can be the killer (why the killer be receiving those results under any circumstances?). If we do no cure, assuming there is only one killer, we have enough time left to lie detect 3 people.

Thus, it appears we have won this game. (Unless there's some master catch we all missed :?)

Who should we start with? I think we should start with Rantai, but as long as we check everyone it only affects how many people end up winning. >.<
This goes under the assumption our detector doesn't break on us for whatever reason.

If we want to start with me, by all means go ahead. Just remember though, every confirmed townie will be night killed basically.
pieguyn
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Either we should start with Rantai or foulcoon. One of them should post "I targeted Index-san night 1", so that the lie detector works. (We'll have to use a different one if we check rust because we already know he did)

Rantai, how about you? >.<
LadySuburu
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Deadline is less than a day away, by the way.
pieguyn
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Aw crap

If we don't have enough time we can lie detect foulcoon's post a while back, but I'd rather check Rantai if there's enough time.
Rantai
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Rantai
Oh oh I think I'm still in time.

Alright we'll start with me.
Rantai
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Rantai
I targeted Index-san night 1.
Rantai
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Rantai
Triple post.

Vote: Above
pieguyn
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pieguyn

Rantai wrote:

I targeted Index-san night 1.
vote lie detect this
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
unvote, vote for above previous quote
LadySuburu
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Rantai wrote:

I targeted Index-san night 1.
Processing...

Processing...

The quote above is the quote above is the quote above is the quote above is the quote above is the quote above.

With that said, the Lie detector shut down for the day. It seems you'll have to wait until tomorrow to use it.
Rantai
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I knew it.

Too specific.

I think there isn't a set criteria to what breaks it and more up to LS's discretion on how much information it gives.
Rantai
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Rantai
We have 2 vials and no information, I still suspect animask but without anything else to use I'm not taking the risk.

Vote: No cure
Rantai
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Rantai
Wow triple posting again;

I just realised we only have 5 people anyway, meaning it's now or never - Unvote, Vote cure: animask
Sleep Powder
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So you just vote for me? That's kind of suspicious. If you knew it, why did you vote for it?

With a mislynch we have...

3 : 1

which makes tomorrow a Ly-Lose.

We need to lynch someone today anyways. You're really suspicious for voting for me though. I'm most likely the only sane person. If I don't turn up as the killer, you'll be really suspicious. Your timing is really beneficial for the killer right now since the day is almost over. My previous actions will be justified if I'm lynched and that might be enough information to decide who the killer might be.

HoS Rantai
pieguyn
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Oh god damn it. I was more than certain that would work, especially since something like that is less specific than one of the ones LS said would work. Sorry everyone :?

animask is probably sane, rust45 got all those results and I doubt the killer would...so I still say it's either Rantai or foulcoon. For some reason, I'm inclined to say Rantai is more suspicious, so vote Rantai
rust45
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Vote: Rantai

The fact that animask has two targets to pick makes it to me, really unlikely for him to be the killer. And if I were to guess, you did that statement figuring there would be no result as to waste our use.
Sleep Powder
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Okay, so I guess I'm not the only one that agrees with me.

Vote: Rantai
LadySuburu
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animask wrote:

Vote: Rantai
Rantai was given the cure.

Rantai: WOAH! I've been doing THAT this whole time? How does that even work? Really, it makes absolutely no se---

Rantai collapsed to the ground.

Rantai - Soul Driver - "Cured" Day 4.

It is now night 4. Please send all actions within 24 hours.
Rantai
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Rawr, get that crazy killer :3
LadySuburu
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pieguy - Vote Theif - Killed N4

It is now day 5. With 3 alive, it's 2 to cure or detect. Deadline is in 3 days.
Sleep Powder
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I've never been one of the last 3 before. All I know is that one wrong vote will make us lose.

I find rust45 to be more suspicous though... he hopped on the Rantai bandwagon. He's also
one of the "likely town" characters.

foulcoon has the potential to be the killer, but I'm not really sure just yet.

I feel so alone now... I might have to think of something to lie detect by myself.
foulcoon
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Are you kiding me? I was at work all day and you guys hammered Rantai, who I was thinking likely to be town. Honestly its me and the 2 people most thought to be town. One of the three of us is sane, unless Index-San was. If we vote lie detect "Index-San was sane" and it comes back false, animask is sane, and rust is my main target. This is my hunch, as rusts role has been a mystery this whole time and nobody has suspected him.

HoS: rust
pieguyn
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Aw crap, I died >.>

Good luck everyone :)
bmin11
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Go town!
Sleep Powder
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Day 1 "Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on night 1." True
"Someone other than rust45 targeted pieguy on night 4." ?

Unless you targeted him... or pieguy targeted himself lol
Sleep Powder
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It was actually Day 2, but you know what I mean.
rust45
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I did not target pieguy last night. I targeted foulcoon and I have no idea what I did to him. What I want to know, is who did animask target?
Sleep Powder
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I targeted myself and foulcoon.

The killer must have known I would do that instead of risking my life on the last day.
foulcoon
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I targeted rust because I was pretty sure animask is the bus driver.

Needless to say I'm 99.9% sure rust is the killer. If I were you rust, I probably would have killed animask because pieguy would have sided with you against me off his day 1 hunch. Then again if animasks role worked and I died you would probably be fucked. Its obvious now that your roleclaims were bullshit and that we've been played.

I can't think of a statement to test with lie detector but I'm willing to say anything to prove I'm not the killer at this point. Alternatively, I could confirm my personal belief if we tested "The sane player is still alive".
foulcoon
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Side note: if we can't think of something that will work in the lie detector can we test "This statement is false."?
rust45
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The sane player is alive
rust45
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HoS:Above
I feel this will help us out to see if animask really is a bus driver. If it comes up false then he's probably just a townie.
foulcoon
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Lol yeah right. If it comes up false animask could possibly be the killer. If it comes up true, rust is the killer. I don't understand your logic here. Why would he be a townie if he wasn't sane. There is no way to confirm that. The only way the statement will be false is if index-san was sane anyways.
rust45
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If it comes up true, then it could mean either of us is the killer. Not I'm the killer.
Sleep Powder
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I haven't 100% confirmed my sanity yet, so I could still be an insane busdriver. Insane as in my role is not as listed.
Asking about my sanity wouldn't be a good way to find the killer because it still leaves you two open as candidates. I'm
starting to think rust still could be the killer... even though he gave a pretty good idea as to why lie detecting "that" wouldn't help.

Nobody commented on my other lie detecting idea?
Sleep Powder
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Oh wait, it would give the same results as the other one. Something like "____ or ____ targeted pieguy on night 4?"

We'll think of something...
rust45
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I still think animask is innocent as it would be stupid for the killer to have to choose two different targets to kill. Whether or not he's sane is another question, but as both you said, trying to figure that out will be a waste of time. What we need to do is formulate a question that can identify which one of us is the killer.

animask said he targeted himself and foulcoon last night. I targeted foulcoon last night, however due to the fact that I'm 99.99% sure that I was the receiver of Haneii's results, I don't think I have an action.

Oh and, btw animask, accusing me for being on the bandwagon yesterday is rather hypocritical of you since you were the one that started the wagon. And I explained my reasoning for lynching him at least, I didn't just jump on like scum would (At least a bad scum) to get a townie dead.
foulcoon
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rust45 wrote:

The sane player is alive
vote lie detect

Please don't vote this if you can think of a better question. Though if this comes back true I'm calling it a town win :)
LadySuburu
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In two hours, deadline will be one day away.
rust45
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You know what, I was thinking about this game all day. And I almost think animask might be the killer. Foul just seems so confident that he's innocent and so am I. Plus, animask was the one that got the bandwagon onto Rantai and it seems to me that he did it out of OMGUS since Rantai had voted on him.

rust45 wrote:

The sane player is alive
Vote: Above

If it comes up false, I'm taking a gambit and voting animask. If it comes up true, I'm sure that foulcoon is the killer.
LadySuburu
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rust45 wrote:

The sane player is alive
Processing...

Processing...

The statement above is orange.

Wait, no.

It's true.

With that, the lie detector explodes in a shower of sparks and Red Fish. Well, at least you got an answer this time.
rust45
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Vote: foulcoon
Sleep Powder
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@rust45, the fact that you voted for what foulcoon voted for was suspicious. ( I was waiting for that to happen to find out if you were the killer or not. )

I have a 50% chance of winning/losing. I'll wait for what foulcoon has to say before I do anything else.
foulcoon
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That's enough for me.

Vote: rust45

At this point its really up to you animask. rust's actual role has been either a lie or just up in the air this entire game. He's had a free ride as everyone has assumed he was pro-town. His arguments as of late have also been very neutral. He said that if the result of the statement came back false then you (animask) were probably town. How does that even make sense? It's just an attempt to make me the only choice for the cure.

I don't see rust changing his vote, and I'm certainly not changing mine. You are obviously the bus driver, and as you know rust and I cannot be sane.

tl;dr - animask, pick the person you think is the killer and vote cure him.
rust45
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foulcoon wrote:

He said that if the result of the statement came back false then you (animask) were probably town
When did I say that? I said if it came back false I would vote animask.
foulcoon
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rust45 wrote:

HoS:Above
I feel this will help us out to see if animask really is a bus driver. If it comes up false then he's probably just a townie.
rust45
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Oh right, but that was before I had a full day of thought during a boring school day that made me realize the possibility of animask being the killer. But since the statement came up true anyway. The point is moot.
foulcoon
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I think there is only 8 hours left in the day.

If animask doesn't vote and there's a tie I think I get lynched because rust voted me first.

Just putting that out there.
LadySuburu
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foulcoon wrote:

I think there is only 8 hours left in the day.

If animask doesn't vote and there's a tie I think I get lynched because rust voted me first.

Just putting that out there.
Animask posted something about having a difficult time posting until saturday in the karaoke thread, so I'm extending the deadline until the end of the day saturday.
Rantai
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Bumping to keep this up on first page.
Sleep Powder
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Vote: rust45

Guess what? I'm the killer. :twisted: lulz
Rantai
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You sneaky little
bmin11
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damn
rust45
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FFFUUU, I knew I should have stuck with that feeling that told me animask was the killer. I guess this means foul was the sane one.
foulcoon
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My given role was night vig, I sure as hell was not the sane one
rust45
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But my given role was friendly neighbor, and I found out that I received Haneii's results.
LadySuburu
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animask wrote:

Vote: rust45

Guess what? I'm the killer. :twisted: lulz
At the end of the day, it was decided to cure rust.

Rust: Wait, so I was the killer after all!? Well, at least I won't di---

Rust collapses to the floor.

animask: Well, I guess we survived!

Foulcoon: Yay!

They then walked into the sunset.

------------------------

LadySuburu: Ah, a perfect ending for if town wins!

Foulcoon: There's no way I'm accepting an ending like that.

LadySuburu: Wait, why are you here? You were with town!

Foulcoon: No, I was the killer. That ending is horrendous, and I'm going to kill you now.

................



Foulcoon - Killer - Wins in Endgame!


Starting role list:

[Quar] HANEII - Doctor (Quack Doctor)

pieguy - Cop (Vote Theif)

Rantai - Psychiatrist (Switches roles between target and random player. Role now has a title: Soul Driver.)

animask - Bus Driver (Sane)

Foulcoon -Night Vig (Investigates Sanity)

rust45 - Friendly Neighbor (Kills)

index-san - Jester (Roleblocker)

akrolsmir - Tracker (Flavor Cop)

bmin11 - Vote Theif (Protects)

--------------------------------------------------------------

Hidden Win Conditions:

Psychiatrist (Switcher) switches Killer's role to someone else (Only possible if targetting killer.) [Win - Rantai]
Jester (Roleblocker) targets Bus Driver.

Vote Theif (Doctor) targets Doctor (Quack).

Doctor (Quack) targets same player as Vote Theif (Doctor) does, or targets the person being killed.

Night Vig (Sanity Cop) targets Killer. (Vote Theif).

Tracker (Flavor Cop) targets Same Player as the Night Vig(Sanity Cop)

Cop (Vote Theif) steals vote of Vote Theif (Doctor)

Bus Driver targets someone the Psychiatrist (Switcher) is targeting.

Friendly Neighbor (Killer) obtains protection role. [Win - rust45]

----------------------------------------------------------

Special Wins and bonus points:

Special Win: Pieguy (Redundancy department of Redundancy Award Award. Switching Rantai and him after rantai swapped himself and pieguy.)

Bonus points: Foulcoon (Night Vig) became killer.

------------------------------------------------------------

N1:

Rantai switches rust45 and Foulcoon.

Rust recieves sanity investigation of index.

pieguy steals foulcoon's vote

bmin11 protects rust.

akrols tracks rust

----

N2:


Foul kills bmin11.

Pieguy steals bmin11's vote.

Rust and haneii switch roles. (Rust is now Quack Doctor, Haneii is now sanity cop)


----

N3:

Pieguy and Rantai switch roles (Pie is now switcher, Rantai is now Vote theif)

Pieguy and Rantai switch back.

------------

That's all I have in my notes file.

Next MGM starting soon. Will post mod notes or commentary if I think of them.
bmin11
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Wow, even knowing the behind the scene is confusing @_@
Switching roles is quite of an ass move in a game when you don't know your original role at all...

I'm curious why "Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on Night 1" came out true. Could have been an easy game >_>
LadySuburu
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Thanks for reminding me.

Rantai was absolutely correct about the lie detector. It was a psuedo red herring. The detector worked or did not work based on the amount of information it gave to the players.
foulcoon
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bmin11 wrote:

I'm curious why "Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on Night 1" came out true. Could have been an easy game >_>
because I targeted Index-San night 1 as well. I should have received his sanity according to the inital roles, but he died because Rantai swapped rust and I, making me the killer. I lied about targeting him because I thought I may be the killer at that point. After night 2 I was positive that I was the killer, and I was able to outwin/outplay/outlast <3
LadySuburu
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foulcoon wrote:

bmin11 wrote:

I'm curious why "Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on Night 1" came out true. Could have been an easy game >_>
because I targeted Index-San night 1 as well. I should have received his sanity according to the inital roles, but he died because Rantai swapped rust and I, making me the killer. I lied about targeting him because I thought I may be the killer at that point. After night 2 I was positive that I was the killer, and I was able to outwin/outplay/outlast <3
To be specific, rantai only chose one target. The second is randomized. He's only able to swap the killer by specifically targetting the killer.
akrolsmir
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And I was investigating foulcoon the night I died... Animask why didn't you bus me >:( ?

also how the heck did you conclude that you were the killer?

To be fair right up to the night I died I was convinced I was the killer myself o.O
pieguyn
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.............

pieguy1372 wrote:

Oh also, I targeted foulcoon, but as I said it didn't seem to do anything.

pieguy1372 wrote:

I still have a bad feeling about foulcoon and I have since day 1, hence my night action. That's just a gut feeling though. :cry:

pieguy1372 wrote:

If what you said is true, this actually clears you from being the killer. It also clears rust. I know I'm not the killer, which leaves either Rantai or foulcoon (or, less likely, Haneii or animask). (Hey, my gut instinct back from day 1 is in there. =_=//)

pieguy1372 wrote:

FoS: foulcoon and Rantai, btw. >.<

pieguy1372 wrote:

animask is probably sane, rust45 got all those results and I doubt the killer would...so I still say it's either Rantai or foulcoon.
......

...Son of a bitch. :cry:

All that effort for naught.... and I daresay my gut from day 1 was right all along. I also knew foulcoon's reason for attacking rust45 was wrong. I can't believe people actually followed foulcoon's reason for attacking rust45. No wonder I died, foulcoon knew I was on to him (I was actually 100% sure it was foulcoon by the end of the game).

Anyway, no wonder we couldn't figure anything out. I never would have guessed that there would be a role that switches roles... (I didn't know what a Soul Driver even was, nor could I find it anywhere, so even after his reveal I didn't know that.) :?

(Also, rofl, that's why my hidden win was for? I figured it was targeting myself and thus trying to realize what my role really was. That's possibly the most insane random coincidence I've ever seen. :P )

GG everyone... and I still say my gut is 2 for 2 so far :P
rust45
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I find it odd that my hidden win condition didn't require me to do anything.
Sleep Powder
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I should've reviewed everything before voting. I only found foulcoon a bit suspicious based on his playstyle. rust45 just seemed standardly scummy. I think I found my playstyle... just not my judging style.
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pieguy1372 wrote:

All that effort for naught.... and I daresay my gut from day 1 was right all along. I also knew foulcoon's reason for attacking rust45 was wrong. I can't believe people actually followed foulcoon's reason for attacking rust45. No wonder I died, foulcoon knew I was on to him (I was actually 100% sure it was foulcoon by the end of the game).

GG everyone... and I still say my gut is 2 for 2 so far :P
I don't mean to sound like an asshole but....

you're fucking retarded.

You weren't ever "on to me". You had a gut feeling that I was the killer at a point in the game in which I WASN'T THE KILLER. Also, I kept you around because you were so unbelievably wrong that nobody would really ever side with you. The only reason I killed you the last night is so that I could convince animask that rust was the actual killer.

tl;dr - you're dumb, and your gut wasn't right because you thought I was the killer when I wasn't even the killer.
Rantai
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Special Win: Pieguy (Redundancy department of Redundancy Award Award. Switching Rantai and him after rantai swapped himself and pieguy.)
Haha I love it.

GG all, I had no idea what was happening.
bmin11
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To say the least, I had no idea what was going on @_@
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Rantai
Actually damn, I would've drugged foulcoon the next day if I wasn't drugged. Damn that biased lie detector!
pieguyn
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pieguyn

foulcoon wrote:

I don't mean to sound like an asshole but....

you're fucking retarded.

You weren't ever "on to me". You had a gut feeling that I was the killer at a point in the game in which I WASN'T THE KILLER. Also, I kept you around because you were so unbelievably wrong that nobody would really ever side with you. The only reason I killed you the last night is so that I could convince animask that rust was the actual killer.

tl;dr - you're dumb, and your gut wasn't right because you thought I was the killer when I wasn't even the killer.
lol... so I was wrong at the first day, then what? I continued to find you suspicious after you obtained the killer role and realized you were the killer, so at D2, yes I was on to you. After N1, me thinking you were the killer by a "gut feeling" wasn't based off of day 1...it would be stupid if it was because as you said you didn't know by then what your role was.

In other words, I may have been suspicious of you since D1, but my suspicion of you D1 didn't affect my suspicion of you starting D2. (If it did, I agree that would be wrong)

Also, that reason is practically the same thing as what I said, because you knew you could never convince me you weren't the killer.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
You're absolutely right, I could never convince you that I wasn't the killer because you were making illogical arguments based on a hunch from Day 1 like an ignoramus.
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
Oh and I was just kidding when I said "Guess what? I'm the killer."

I don't like being alone :( drives me mad (I'm still learning how to play this game.)
foulcoon
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foulcoon
On second thought pieguy, please ignore my comments. I understand that they were rude. I also understand that some people have to make themselves feel smart, or try to prove something to themselves or the group about their hunches being correct.

You win, pieguy.
pieguyn
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pieguyn

foulcoon wrote:

You're absolutely right, I could never convince you that I wasn't the killer because you were making illogical arguments based on a hunch from Day 1 like an ignoramus.
As I said before, at D2, I had to come up with another idea because as you said my hunch from D1 was invalidated. It just so happened to be the same person as my D1 hunch, but that didn't affect my D2 hunch.

Also, my argument wasn't illogical. I had ruled out rust45 and animask, which was quite logical (and don't try to say that animask was another gut feeling, because you proposed the same thing). By the end, you were the only one left, so at that point it was just process of elimination.

EDIT: lol, just saw your latest post. It's not that, it's just me looking back on the game. If I sound like that, I apologize.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
what you fail to admit is that you were so stubborn that you refused to see that rust could possibly be suspicious. He was never confirmed town, what he claimed his role was changed significantly throughout the game, which is in part why I believe I was able to convince animask that rust was the killer.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
I did see the possibility of rust being the killer, but I thought it was more likely you were the killer.

Let's just move on, seeing as we're not really getting anywhere. :?
Rantai
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Rantai
Let's all be friends :(
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder

Rantai wrote:

Let's all be friends :(
Then who's going to be mafia?
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