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00:01:671 (1671|2,1757|2,1842|3) - and 00:09:899 (9899|3,9985|3,10071|2) - consider these pattern as these both are the only section to use this pattern and both of them are on the right hand side, how about rearranging the pattern so it won't be too one sided or mirror one of the pattern

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rearranged a bit

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00:01:928 I think you should add a note here and in the similar parts, because it is practically the same as here 00:03:042 (3042|2,3128|2,3214|1,3299|1) -

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i think its fine not to add a note there, i feel like its too subtle if you hear it at 100%

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i agree with this. i think you should reconsider it because it doesn’t only happen at 00:01:928, but also in the parts that follow, such as 00:04:671 - , 00:07:414 - , 00:10:157 - , 00:12:899 - , 00:15:642 - , etc. These have hi-hat sounds that, in my opinion, are just as prominent as those at 00:03:299 - , 00:06:042 - , 00:07:414 - , etc.

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It has lower volume and more delay (actually it is at 00:01:940 , not 00:01:928). Leaving it empty is better imo

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hi datoujia
ok then seems like its ok to resolve this

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00:19:328 - triple for snare sound

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00:21:128 (21128|1) - move to 00:19:757 - col 4

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ye it was biased twrds LH, did revamped it tho, should be better now

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00:21:557 (21557|1) - prefer to move this to col3 as this section is too left hand biased

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00:22:757 (22757|0,22757|3,22928|0) - same sound as 00:22:071 (22071|2,22071|3) and different from 00:21:728 (21728|3,21728|0,21899|0), consider making this a [12]3 to differentiate them

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sure

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00:30:128 (30128|1,30214|1,30471|0,30557|0,30728|1,30814|1) - this section here is too left hand biased, consider moving one of the shield to right hand side

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00:34:071 (34071|1,34157|1,34242|2,34328|2,34585|1,34671|1,34757|0,34842|0) - flow is rather weird here, mostly because its rather anchored to col 2 overall, i would suggest arranging it to something like this so its more balanced , other reason i reccomend doing this because it seems there some kind of theme of it being repeating patterns for the sound clink clink like this 00:23:099 (23099|1,23185|1,23271|2,23357|2) -

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hm ok rearranged to smthn similar

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00:34:928 (34928|2,35099|2,35271|2,35442|2,35528|2,35785|2) - long anchor, consider to rearrange the pattern, I suggest to move 00:35:099 (35099|2) - to col1 and 00:35:271 (35271|2) - to col2

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id just rearrange the triple

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00:39:385 (39385|2,39471|2,39557|3,39642|3,39728|2,39814|2) - this section is too right hand biased, consider to rearrange if not intended

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ok

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00:41:785 (41785|0,41957|3) - how about flipping this? it's missing a second minijack

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yep

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00:47:014 (47014|2) - mind telling me whats this ln for? if its for the metallic sound you should add another ln here 00:46:928 (46928|3) - just to be consistent. same with 00:52:414 (52414|3) - 00:57:899 (57899|3) - 01:03:385 (63385|2) -

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i think that the long lns at the blue line highlights the highwr pitch, while the double reps the initial voice, also adding those lns just make them too jarring on the filler parts

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00:51:042 (51042|1,51128|1,51214|0,51299|0,51385|1,51557|0,51557|1,51728|1,51814|1,51899|0,51985|0,52071|1,52157|1) - all of the minijack in this section is on the left hand, prefer to move some of the minijack to the right side if its not intended

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hm ok that looks cleaner

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01:04:757 missing an ln here because 01:04:242 (64242|0) - has it and its the same sound

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hm one has piano and one doesnt so i want to accentuate that, shortened the ln tho

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01:05:099 - it sounds weaker here than the other double in this section, may reduce to single

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i just happen to like the way it is used as a double

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01:06:299 (66299|3) - consider moving this to col 1 so it doest feel too heavy on the col 3 and 4 going into the minijack

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id prefer mirroring the minijacks and rearrange accordingly

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01:07:671 (67671|2,67699|0,67757|1,67785|2,67842|3,67871|0,67928|1,67957|3) -
the pattern here lacks neat and clean feel, can hardly show the clear 1/4 sound in the music, and it's a bit too hard between many SVs.

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this one looks cleaner

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oh and dont forget to check the rest parts that have the same issue, suitable for all mods

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The jack idea looks cool but I can spice that up a bit since that part has no SVs

I want to preserve the 1/12 grace at the whiteline cuz its the initial sound
Also the 1/4 jackhammers are there cuz I want to represent the prominent sound

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the sr acted kinda funny when i applied this mod

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01:10:071 (70071|1,70071|3,70128|2,70185|1) - this sound ends pretty sudden so using 1/6 to make it continuous to the next sound at 01:10:242 doesnt really fit imo. Consider removing the the 1/6 and just have a 1/8 note on col 3 at 01:10:114

applied for 01:07:328 (67328|3,67328|1,67385|2,67442|3), 01:08:699 (68699|1,68699|0,68757|2,68814|0), etc.

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I prefer adding two consecutive 1/8s because i can still hear the underlying wubs there, should be fine cuz it's still not continuous

applied to the whole sections

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01:11:271
wrong snap, 1/16 332 rhythm is correct
and better do not use 4x jackhammer, feels not that good

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hm ok I'll get through all of these and revamp the svs accordingly

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sv fixed

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01:15:728 (75728|0,75728|3) - for consistency purpose, move one of the note to 01:15:757 - and remove one of the note here 01:15:814 (75814|0,75814|2) -

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ye

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01:15:757 (75757|2) - I think this should be removed. I don't see the reason for putting it, when the sound is already represented by this 01:15:728 (75728|0,75814|0) -

same
01:08:899 (68899|0) -
01:10:271 (70271|3) -
01:13:014 (73014|3) -

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the wubs there are slightly stronger, the 1/12s are used to represent them

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01:17:099 (77099|2,77185|2,77442|2,77528|2) - these 2 jacks cause an unnatural spike on this col. Moving the second jack to col 1 or 2 might be better.
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/19364707/c6bb
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/19364709/cccf

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yea i did rearranged it that way

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01:17:128 - missing note for pattern consistency

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okay

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01:18:042 (78042|3,78128|1) - how about making these on the same col cuz they r the same sound? sth like this should work

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applied for other sections

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I LOVE THIS
applied

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01:22:199, 01:27:685 - missing sound

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purposedly omitted to emphasize the prominent sounds there, should be enough with the svs i think?

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01:25:671 - consider to add another note here as double for pattern consistency and for missing kick and remove 01:26:014 (86014|3) - as there is no kick or other unique distinct sound here

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ok sure

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01:45:557 - for pattern consistency, there should be a LN here and there shouldn't be a LN at 01:46:071 (106071|3) - like this section 01:39:899 (99899|2,100071|0,100242|3,100242|2,100757|2,100928|1,100928|0) -

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come to think of it i know how to rep it as a different pitch, id just make 01:45:642 into ln

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01:53:442 (113442|3,113528|3,113614|2,113699|2,113785|3,113871|3) - this is pretty heavy for a quieter part of this section

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wasnt intentional, fixed

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01:54:985 (114985|1,114985|2,115071|2,115157|3,115242|3,115328|3) -
This pattern is harder a lot than
02:00:471 (120471|1,120471|3,120557|3,120642|0,120728|0,120814|0) & 02:05:957 (125957|2,125957|3,126042|3,126128|0,126214|0,126299|0).
You would better not lock the index finger 01:55:071 (115071|2) while the middle finger was dealing with the hardest 3-notes jack 01:55:157 (115157|3,115242|3,115328|3).

Seperate them from the same hand.

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05:19:328 (319328|1,319328|0,319499|1,319585|1,319671|1) - 05:26:185 (326185|0,326185|1,326357|0,326442|0,326528|0) - similar problems.

However, I think increasing the difficulty appropriately in the last kiai is good. I prefer to keep 05:19:328 - for the beginning of the first 8-measures, then mirror 05:19:328 at 05:24:814 - for the beginning of the second 8-measures. Last, seperate 05:26:185 - .

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yes they do however my mindblocked brain just refused to fix them when selfmodding lol

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sur

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02:12:814 - what a cool section

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02:13:471 (133471|0) - move to 02:13:499 - . refer to the rest snares.

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ok

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02:21:042 - missing a note for kick

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ok

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02:21:985 (141985|3) - this note is inconsistent with other similar parts. like:
02:13:757 - 02:16:499 - 02:19:242 -

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nice catch

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02:22:071 (142071|0,142099|1,142128|2,142242|3,142271|2,142299|1) -
avoid using too much LN grace for a single melody sound, 02:22:414 (142414|0,142442|1) - this pattern is the most imo

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reduced LN

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02:22:757 (142757|1,142785|0,143442|3,143471|2) - these r not the same as 02:23:099 (143099|1,143128|2), as they r a lot quieter. Consider not gracing them and lower their LN length to represent that

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oke

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naur

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02:30:985 (150985|0,151028|1,151071|2,151114|1,151157|0) -
02:31:671 (151671|3,151714|2,151757|1,151799|2,151842|3) -
[Subjective] I think using 1/6 divisor to stretch this pattern is more appropriate, since this sound is obviously longer than 1/2 beat.
But if you want to emphasize the "1/4 jack tension" here, keep is also fine.

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decide to keep, using 1/6 divisor for a whole beat may lead to a jarring pattern (which was caused by the LN), a 1/8 burst for 1/2 beat already gave enough impact to represent the "crash" sound for the whole beat while still preventing weirdly played pattern

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it's unfortunate to ignore the melody from 02:33:385 - to 02:34:671 - (leaving it as just a 1/2 LN).

You could represent it with something like this:

or in a way that you prefer.

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good suggestion

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02:34:757 (154757|2,154928|2,155014|2) - this one looks a bit twisted
how about switch these two 02:34:757 (154757|1,154757|2) - ? then it can look cleaner

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sure

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02:57:042

wrong snap, 1/6
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o h (rearranged my own way)

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03:07:842 (187842|0,187928|0,188014|0) -
i'm afraid it can be a bit hard compared to former parts
cus there are 3 jacks and heavy SVs which are both harder than before
i recommend to nerf the SV softer

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I prefer nerfing a few sections of these by removing the 1/12 graces, lemme think if it's necessary to work with the svs

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will nerf the sv in some while

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sv nerfed, 0.60x -> 0.70x

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03:17:957 - missing note i guess (?)

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same here

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03:39:985 - will add one here, adding a note at 03:17:957 - does make the section a bit jarring

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03:19:114 - the piano sound starts here, maybe you can add a single note here and act as a grace, also you can move 03:19:185 (199185|3) - 1/12 backward to 03:19:157

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i cant think of anything that statisfies me so id just do this

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i think you forgot to make it a double at 03:25:328 - , as it becomes inconsistent with the following parts that have the same sound, such as 03:25:671 - , 03:26:699 - , 03:30:814 - , etc.

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yea

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idk if there's any inavoidable consistency issue to make here quad, but how about nerf this 03:40:585 (220585|1) - to make it triple?

also the jacks are concentrated in col2 like this 03:39:471 (219471|1,219557|1,219728|1,219814|1,220071|1,220157|1,220414|1,220499|1,220585|1) - , so better move one or two of them to col1 for better handfeel

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idk if there's any inavoidable consistency issue to make here quad, but how about nerf this 03:40:585 (220585|1) - to make it triple? -> yea i can agree with this the quad almost guarantees a miss even though i rlly like it lol

rearranged the jacks too

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why don’t you follow the piano sound at 03:45:557 - ? is there any particular reason? if not, i suggest following it there instead of at 03:45:728 - because i don't think there is any specific sound

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a bcuz i missed it

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03:47:614 - prefer to add a note here, the piano sounds stronger here

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1/4 LN instead seems better imo

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03:53:099 (233099|1,233614|1,233957|1,234299|1,234814|1) -
the gaps between these notes looks a bit repeated, and i think it can be fixed just by fill 03:53:957 (233957|1) -

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hm i prefer doing a bit of direction adjustments here, also i moved 03:54:299 one of the lns here up a 1/8 (not 1/12) cuz i can hear a bit of offset there

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04:24:385 imo the sv rising can barely be seen cuz the time is too short

solution:
your original sv:

263207,-500,4,2,1,50,0,0
263550,-500,4,2,1,50,0,0
263893,-500,4,2,1,50,0,0
264235,-500,4,2,1,50,0,0

change them from 0.1x to 0.2x
output:

263207,-500,4,2,1,50,0,0 263550,-500,4,2,1,50,0,0 263893,-500,4,2,1,50,0,0 264235,-500,4,2,1,50,0,0

and
stretch

264385,-1000,4,2,1,50,0,0
264406.5,-303.030303030303,4,2,1,50,0,0
264428,-181.818181818182,4,2,1,50,0,0
264449.5,-128.205128205128,4,2,1,50,0,0

to make them start from 04:24:299, also change them to 0.4 0.55 0.7 0.85
output:
264299,-250,4,2,1,50,0,0 264342,-181.818181818182,4,2,1,50,0,0 264385,-142.857142857143,4,2,1,50,0,0 264428,-117.647058823529,4,2,1,50,0,0

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excellent

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04:50:528 (290528|3,290614|3,290699|3,290764|2,290828|1) -
tbh the handfeel is not that good, and it looks abrupt when i go through the testplay, try rearranging it

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inconsistency:
04:51:557 - 1/8->1/12grace->1/4jack
05:02:528 - 05:24:471 - 1/6->1/12grace->1/4jack
05:13:499 - 1/6->1/4jack

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i reworked the entire section ig

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05:17:999 (317999|0,318042|1,318085|2,318128|3,318185|0,318242|1,318299|2,318299|3,318357|0,318414|1) -
looks repeat and become too easy suddenly (compared to former), try to rearrange

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rearranged the directions, slightly more evil now >:D

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05:24:857 (324857|1) - i think it's better to give enough gap to the latter jackhammer, otherwise the patterns are a bit mixed

if that's your purpose thats ok, but you didnt keep it up at 05:27:557, so better consist it

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that's not intentional, rearranged

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i think making it a triple at 05:30:299 - is fine since it emphasizes the cymbal sound

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good idea

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