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Hatsune Miku - Laika

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Topic Starter
FireballFlame
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Freitag, 30. September 2011 at 21:33:58

Artist: Hatsune Miku
Title: Laika
Tags: xi-on Vocaloid Lanttu
BPM: 123
Filesize: 8437kb
Play Time: 03:44
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4,45 stars, 408 notes)
  2. Lan's Easy (1,78 stars, 185 notes)
  3. Normal (3,47 stars, 295 notes)
Download: Hatsune Miku - Laika
Download: Hatsune Miku - Laika (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Sad, but beautiful song

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laika






Video is <2.4MB. Don't you dare download this without it!
KiriNoMorii
:)
Lanttu
*cries waterfalls*

.. . . OK, let's do this~

I really like this beatmap, nice and simple and relaxing to play<3 Though, bit more hitsounds would be nice. :3

Only little suggestions, feel free to ignore if you don't agree~

[Hard]
00:34:916 (1) - One grid down and left so that the notes in the middle aren't touching it?
00:38:819 (1) - Same but only reversed, of course~
02:47:599 (5) - Maybe like this? http://puu.sh/2Tgh

[Normal]
01:01:501 (2,3,4) - Maybe change these into a repeat slider?
01:21:989 (5) - New combo?
01:49:307 (4) - ^
02:58:087 (7) - ^
03:25:404 (6) - ^

...*cries again*
Topic Starter
FireballFlame

Lanttu wrote:

*cries waterfalls*

.. . . OK, let's do this~

I really like this beatmap, nice and simple and relaxing to play<3 Though, bit more hitsounds would be nice. :3 Yeah, still working on those. :)

Only little suggestions, feel free to ignore if you don't agree~

[Hard]
00:34:916 (1) - One grid down and left so that the notes in the middle aren't touching it? Done!
00:38:819 (1) - Same but only reversed, of course~ ^
02:47:599 (5) - Maybe like this? http://puu.sh/2Tgh Hmm, that causes a bit strange spacing. But it plays quite well. I think I'll do it.

[Normal]
01:01:501 (2,3,4) - Maybe change these into a repeat slider? Okay.
01:21:989 (5) - New combo? I'll move the NC from 01:23:208 there.
01:49:307 (4) - ^ Nah, I wanna keep that the same color.
02:58:087 (7) - ^ k
03:25:404 (6) - ^ k

...*cries again*

Thanks for modding :)
Verdisphena
:(
Mantis
senaya
remember what i told you about vocaloids? :)
but man, such a sad song :(

[General]
Unused file star2.png? I see you wanted to do something with it when i open the osb file, but nowhere to be seen.

[Normal]
Unsnapped objects you have. Resnap them you must.
01:35:160 - why you need this break? small and kinda useless.
01:42:476 (3,1,2) - make like this http://puu.sh/2VjK?
02:53:453 (5,6) - i'd use a slider instead.
03:10:526 (6) - move it to 03:10:770 and add a note here instead. also, see if you can make it longer.
03:11:258 - remove this small break too?


[Hard]
01:09:794 (3,4) - i think this sounds better http://puu.sh/2VhR but you will have to do something about your pattern then.
01:51:746 - i'd add a note here to follow lyrics ..し: you have a note on shi  but no note at i .
02:33:941 (4,5) - i'd replace that with a slider
02:53:453 (4) - i'd make it without a repeat, but it will destroy the pattern. seems like you like symmetry a lot =)

Лайка :(
Topic Starter
FireballFlame

senaya wrote:

remember what i told you about vocaloids? :)
but man, such a sad song :(

[General]
Unused file star2.png? I see you wanted to do something with it when i open the osb file. This star2.png is just a single invisible pixel. I put it in so I can use Kiai time, because Kiai fountains would look annoying with such a bright background.
The .osb is just there so you can watch the video to the end after playing the map.


[Normal]
Unsnapped objects you have. Resnap them you must. Whoops, I guess I should check AIMod once in a while...
01:35:160 - why you need this break? small and kinda useless. Just for aesthetic purposes. I like those arrows introducing the chorus.
01:42:476 (3,1,2) - make like this http://puu.sh/2VjK? Hmm, no, I think the transition from following the beat (01:37:598 (1,2,3,4)) to following the melody would be a bit sudden then. And I like the current pattern :)
02:53:453 (5,6) - i'd use a slider instead. Yeah, I considered that too, but because of the low AR beginners would probably be confused about the direction http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/105490
03:10:526 (6) - move it to 03:10:770 and add a note here instead. also, see if you can make it longer. Sorry, but I want to keep the break as is^^
03:11:258 - remove this small break too? ^


[Hard]
01:09:794 (3,4) - i think this sounds better http://puu.sh/2VhR but you will have to do something about your pattern then. Can't find a way to do that without breaking the symmetry ;_;
01:51:746 - i'd add a note here to follow lyrics ..し: you have a note on shi  but no note at i . Wait, I do. Isn't 01:51:014 (6) the し and 01:51:502 (7) the い?
02:33:941 (4,5) - i'd replace that with a slider I like having circles there, the jumping kinda accentuates the pause that comes afterwards. :)
02:53:453 (4) - i'd make it without a repeat, but it will destroy the pattern. seems like you like symmetry a lot =) Actually, I started this map with the intent of mapping less pattern- and more flow-based than I usually do ... but yeah, I guess I do like symmetry :D

Лайка :(

Thx for modding!
Lanttu
I-I finished it~ ;3;/ I hope it's fine, a bit slider-heavy and stuff but... anyways~ ;u; http://puu.sh/2Wrk

...*cries*
Topic Starter
FireballFlame
Okay, added!
winber1
sorry it took a few days :(


i feel there could be a little more hitsounds, but oh well.

Hard

00:49:307 (2,3) - this and other places similar to this, i would rather follow the vocals more, but it doesn't really matter.
SPOILER
00:54:185 (3,1,2) -
00:58:331 (4,5,6) -
01:07:721 (x) - some reason i want to add a note here...
01:55:159 (1) - move 1/2 tick back to follow vocals? (and rearrange spacing obviously if you do)

Normal

02:58:087 (1) - remove combo to be consistent with the previous pattern (or do whatever you want to make the two consistent)
02:58:819 (3) - new combo for the above reason (consistency)
03:19:063 (1,2,3) - make this symmetric to 03:17:111 (1,2,3) - about the y-axis?

Lan's Easy

01:52:233 (1) - remove combo? idk, it just doesn't seem to fit imo.
02:30:526 (3) - perhaps try something like this (combo 4 is just combo 2 vertically flipped lol):
03:35:648 (1) - remove combo? similar to 01:52:233

i don't really have anything important to say...
Nice map! :3

Star~~
Lanttu

winber1 wrote:

Lan's Easy

01:52:233 (1) - remove combo? idk, it just doesn't seem to fit imo. Nahh, I like the new combo here. >:
02:30:526 (3) - perhaps try something like this (combo 4 is just combo 2 vertically flipped lol): I... still kind of prefer it like the way it is. ;_;
03:35:648 (1) - remove combo? similar to 01:52:233 Like I said before..
No changes~
Topic Starter
FireballFlame

winber1 wrote:

sorry it took a few days :(


i feel there could be a little more hitsounds, but oh well. I don't have a good idea how. I don't wanna spam any more whistles and claps don't really fit.

Hard

00:49:307 (2,3) - this and other places similar to this, i would rather follow the vocals more, but it doesn't really matter. Would be possible, but I prefer it the way it is.
01:07:721 (x) - some reason i want to add a note here... ^
01:55:159 (1) - move 1/2 tick back to follow vocals? (and rearrange spacing obviously if you do) ^

Normal

02:58:087 (1) - remove combo to be consistent with the previous pattern (or do whatever you want to make the two consistent) Okay.
02:58:819 (3) - new combo for the above reason (consistency) ^
03:19:063 (1,2,3) - make this symmetric to 03:17:111 (1,2,3) - about the y-axis? Oh, spacing mistake. Fixed!

[...]

Star~~ Thanks!
Mikarunoel131_DELETED
Hi ^^ Like this song and try to help you ,too. ^^


So let`s begin ^^

Lan`s Easy :

00:41:989 put the slider away from the edge ? Would look better I think ^^
00:54:916 ^
01:52:233 remove new combo ?

that is it here ^^

Normal:

01:09:794 try to change spacing there
02:25:648 ^
stack currently under (03:00:562 , 03:08:331 and 03:08:819 )

01.10:526 start the slider there , than it is like she sings . That sounds better.
01:26:136 remove new combo there ?
01:30:526 ^

That is it here . I like that difficulty x33

I can`t say something to insane .
I am new in modding and don`t understand what is allowed in Insane maps really.
I saw some stange Insane beatmaps ( spacing strange or hitsounds wich doesn`t really fit )
but no one said something to that ,so. Sorry about that .

I hope I helped you even a bit ^-^
Some things are wrote are just suggestion , remember that ^.^ ( like 00:41:989 in Lan`s Easy )


I give you a star , because I like the Beatmap and the song x3

good Luck =D
theowest
I think you better add claps to this beatmap. It sounds better.

All diffs:

Delete all bookmarks, edit the song file and insert this code after bookmarks:
SPOILER
18087,19063,20038,21014,21989,22965,23941,24916,25892,26868,27843,28819,29794,30770,31746,32721,33697,34672,35648,36624,37599,38575,39550,40526,41502,42477,43453,44429,45404,46380,47355,48331,49307,50282,51258,52233,53209,54185,55160,56136,57111,58087,59063,60038,61014,61989,62965,63941,64916,65892,66868,67843,68819,69794,70770,71746,72721,73697,74672,75648,76624,77599,78575,79550,80526,81502,82477,83453,84429,85404,86380,87355,88331,89307,90282,91258,92233,93209,94185,95160,96136,97111,98087,99063,100038,101014,101989,102965,103941,104916,105892,106868,107843,108819,109794,110770,111746,112721,113697,114672,115648,116624,117599,118575,119550,120526,121502,122477,123453,124429,125404,126380,127355,128331,144916,145892,146868,147843,148819,149794,150770,151136,151380,151746,152721,153697,154672,155648,156624,157599,158575,159550,160526,161502,162477,163453,164429,165404,166380,167355,168331,169307,170282,171258,172233,173209,174185,175160,176136,177111,178087,179063,180038,181014,181989,182965,183941,184916,185892,186868,187843,188819,189794,190770,191746,192721,193201,193697,194672,195648,196624,197599,198575,199550,200526,201502,202477,203453,204429,205404,206380,207355,208331,209307,210282,211258,212233,213209,214185,215160,216136,217111,218087,219063,220038,221014,221989,222965,223941
Like this: If there's a beat on this bookmark, then add a clap. If not, then just ignore it. I hope you get the pattern here.

Insane:

00:53:697 (2) - Looks a lot cooler if it's flipped upside down, like this 01:37:111 (1) - Add finish, and because it will be together with a clap, it will sound awesome.
02:08:331 (2) - Add finish, and because it will be together with a clap, it will sound awesome.
02:32:233 - It would be better if it was a beat here, finish beat.
02:46:989 - there shouldn't be a beat here. Overmapping, unnecessary, especially with Hard.
02:57:111 (4) - Looks a lot cooler if it's flipped, like this 03:00:526 (2) - Same here.
03:12:721 (1) - clap and finish
03:43:941 (1) - ^
03:44:429 (3) - finish. Maybe normal finish

Easy:

01:15:160 (3) - Looks a lot cooler if it's flipped, like this 01:37:599 (1) - You can make it rounder, like this02:03:453 (3) - make the slider look like this, it looks better \:D/ 02:08:331 - Finish, and because it will be a clap here too, it'll sound awesome.
03:02:721 (4) - better like this 03:13:209 (1) - Looks more fun and because she changes sound, the slider will change path on the red thingy. :D 03:43:941 - clap finish, cuz it will sound better.

Normal:

Good, but don't forget the finishes and claps I told you about.


Also.. I don't see any point in this

Delete the osb file and the useless little star and make a full upload. o_o
Lanttu

Mikarunoel131 wrote:

Lan`s Easy :

00:41:989 put the slider away from the edge ? Would look better I think ^^ I have no idea what you mean here, sorry. çwç
00:54:916 ^
01:52:233 remove new combo ? No

theowest wrote:

Easy:

01:15:160 (3) - Looks a lot cooler if it's flipped, like this Nooooo way, looks much nicer the way it is. >u<;
01:37:599 (1) - You can make it rounder, like this Does it really matter that much?
02:03:453 (3) - make the slider look like this, it looks better \:D/ I like how it curves with (4) and (1) the way it is now.
02:08:331 - Finish, and because it will be a clap here too, it'll sound awesome. But there are no claps~
03:02:721 (4) - better like this Nah, better like the way it is. Notice how start of the next slider matches the curve of (4) :B
03:13:209 (1) - Looks more fun and because she changes sound, the slider will change path on the red thingy. :D What, no way~ I like how this matches the video anyways.
03:43:941 - clap finish, cuz it will sound better. But there still are no claps.
S-so yeah, still no changes.. ;u;
Topic Starter
FireballFlame

Mikarunoel131 wrote:

Normal:

01:09:794 try to change spacing there Made a small adjustment there, but I think it's fine.
02:25:648 ^ Nope, it looks good and is perfectly readable.
stack currently under (03:00:562 , 03:08:331 and 03:08:819 ) Aww come on, noone will notice that, and it's grid snapped so nicely ;_;

01.10:526 start the slider there , than it is like she sings . That sounds better. But it'd kill the whole pattern and the current rhythm is fine as well.
01:26:136 remove new combo there ? No, because it's not part of the circle pattern, just like 01:23:208 (1).
01:30:526 ^ I consider this a new pattern too.

That is it here . I like that difficulty x33

I can`t say something to insane .
I am new in modding and don`t understand what is allowed in Insane maps really.
I saw some stange Insane beatmaps ( spacing strange or hitsounds wich doesn`t really fit )
but no one said something to that ,so. Sorry about that . It's a Hard, not an Insane. But yes, higher difficulties put more trust in the player's ability to read patterns and don't need to follow the mapping guidelines as strictly as the lower ones.

I hope I helped you even a bit ^-^
Some things are wrote are just suggestion , remember that ^.^ ( like 00:41:989 in Lan`s Easy )


I give you a star , because I like the Beatmap and the song x3

good Luck =D Thanks!

theowest wrote:

I think you better add claps to this beatmap. It sounds better.

All diffs:

Delete all bookmarks, edit the song file and insert this code after bookmarks:
SPOILER
18087,19063,20038,21014,21989,22965,23941,24916,25892,26868,27843,28819,29794,30770,31746,32721,33697,34672,35648,36624,37599,38575,39550,40526,41502,42477,43453,44429,45404,46380,47355,48331,49307,50282,51258,52233,53209,54185,55160,56136,57111,58087,59063,60038,61014,61989,62965,63941,64916,65892,66868,67843,68819,69794,70770,71746,72721,73697,74672,75648,76624,77599,78575,79550,80526,81502,82477,83453,84429,85404,86380,87355,88331,89307,90282,91258,92233,93209,94185,95160,96136,97111,98087,99063,100038,101014,101989,102965,103941,104916,105892,106868,107843,108819,109794,110770,111746,112721,113697,114672,115648,116624,117599,118575,119550,120526,121502,122477,123453,124429,125404,126380,127355,128331,144916,145892,146868,147843,148819,149794,150770,151136,151380,151746,152721,153697,154672,155648,156624,157599,158575,159550,160526,161502,162477,163453,164429,165404,166380,167355,168331,169307,170282,171258,172233,173209,174185,175160,176136,177111,178087,179063,180038,181014,181989,182965,183941,184916,185892,186868,187843,188819,189794,190770,191746,192721,193201,193697,194672,195648,196624,197599,198575,199550,200526,201502,202477,203453,204429,205404,206380,207355,208331,209307,210282,211258,212233,213209,214185,215160,216136,217111,218087,219063,220038,221014,221989,222965,223941
Like this: If there's a beat on this bookmark, then add a clap. If not, then just ignore it. I hope you get the pattern here. The 2nd and 4th beat of every measure, right? Problem is, the map follows the vocals a good amount of the time, which means a lot of irregular gaps in the clap pattern. I tried, but it just doesn't sound good.

Insane: Why does everyone call it Insane? It's a Hard ;_;

00:53:697 (2) - Looks a lot cooler if it's flipped upside down, like this I think it looks cooler the way it is. ;) 01:37:111 (1) - Add finish, and because it will be together with a clap, it will sound awesome. Two crashes in succession sound a bit too heavy for my liking.
02:08:331 (2) - Add finish, and because it will be together with a clap, it will sound awesome. ^
02:32:233 - It would be better if it was a beat here, finish beat. Nah, I think it feels nicer without one. I like the uniform rhythm of these combos.
02:46:989 - there shouldn't be a beat here. Overmapping, unnecessary, especially with Hard. It's just like that in the 1st verse though. That note is the equivalent of 01:11:380 (2).
02:57:111 (4) - Looks a lot cooler if it's flipped, like this Just as before, I think it's cooler the way it is. By the way, this appears in Normal too. 03:00:526 (2) - Same here. ^
03:12:721 (1) - clap and finish Again, too heavy.
03:43:941 (1) - ^ ^
03:44:429 (3) - finish. Maybe normal finish This note doesn't exist.


Also.. I don't see any point in this

Delete the osb file and the useless little star and make a full upload. o_o It causes a skip button to appear instead of going directly to the result screen, so you can watch the video to the end. The star itself is invisible.

Thanks for modding!
theowest

Lanttu wrote:

Mikarunoel131 wrote:

Lan`s Easy :

00:41:989 put the slider away from the edge ? Would look better I think ^^ I have no idea what you mean here, sorry. çwç
00:54:916 ^
01:52:233 remove new combo ? No

theowest wrote:

Easy:

01:15:160 (3) - Looks a lot cooler if it's flipped, like this Nooooo way, looks much nicer the way it is. >u<;
01:37:599 (1) - You can make it rounder, like this Does it really matter that much?
02:03:453 (3) - make the slider look like this, it looks better \:D/ I like how it curves with (4) and (1) the way it is now.
02:08:331 - Finish, and because it will be a clap here too, it'll sound awesome. But there are no claps~
03:02:721 (4) - better like this Nah, better like the way it is. Notice how start of the next slider matches the curve of (4) :B
03:13:209 (1) - Looks more fun and because she changes sound, the slider will change path on the red thingy. :D What, no way~ I like how this matches the video anyways.
03:43:941 - clap finish, cuz it will sound better. But there still are no claps.
S-so yeah, still no changes.. ;u;
you just made me cry.. ;__;
Lanttu

theowest wrote:

you just made me cry.. ;__;
I-I'm very sorry, don't cry~ \;__;/ *hugs*

I just am quite picky with my sliders..
Minty Gum
I really like this song/map :D I just think you should change the white circle because it blends in with the background too much. Nice skin, anyways. I was going to make a map for this song but looks like you did it before me xD If you need an insane guest map tell me! :D
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