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Pachelbel - Canon in D

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1on_old
33 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
1on_old
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 13 ноября 2014 г. at 18:59:47

Artist: Pachelbel
Title: Canon in D
Tags: Classical
BPM: 71,3
Filesize: 7335kb
Play Time: 02:52
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,43 stars, 170 notes)
  2. Hard hit (2,48 stars, 407 notes)
  3. Insane (3,78 stars, 575 notes)
Download: Pachelbel - Canon in D
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My first map, i hope you help my make it better, and show my mistakes.

Waiting for approval :)

Easy - Done;
Normal - Done;
Insane - Done;

Updates:

SPOILER
25-03
30-03
08-04
09-04
12-04
Fixed Combos, added hitsounds
13-04
Added Easy. Added Clap and Fifnsh sounds. Removed Jumps in normal. Music edited.
19-04
Working on improvements proposed by akrolsmir and Kuroneko-sHerald.
Remake postions in normal.
20-04
Many minor changes in all diferences. Make sliders more pleasant.
22-04
Uploaded new edited mp3. Some bugs fixed in Insane
23-04
Fixed some places in Normal and Easy, corrected timing. Set one spacing in normal.
27-04
Combined my version and Pereira006`s version of normal, some minor corrections in Insane and Easy.
29-04
Fixed Timing. Some minor changes.
21-05
More Timing Fixes. Minor Changes. Increased spasing in easy.
02-02
Little timing corrections, some changes int insane.
04-02
05-02
03-03
Normal now is hard.

Thanks for timing fix Selee and loveFantasy.
Thanks for modding: IceBeam, akrolsmir, Kuroneko-sHerald, Leorda, Pereira006(especially for normal), HakuNoKaemi, bmin11, Lissette
Last edited by 1on_old , edited 45 times in total.
vovqa48
1 post
Joined February 2011
vovqa48
nice beatmap ;)
herrschumacherr
4 posts
Joined November 2010
herrschumacherr
Needs modding, anyone please?
xJeena
6 posts
Joined August 2010
xJeena
yo! modding for modding kinda :3

well, i gotta say. whoa.

-first of all, there shouldn't be so many timing sections. the timing in the song doesn't change, so you shouldn't have more than one bpm section
once you do that, i'll try to help you with the timing since in many sections it is off, which is affecting your circles timing as well, many hit way before the sound.
-make your circles bigger. its a normal difficulty, so make them normal size (about the middle tick. or even one bigger than that)
-Don't have your combo numbers surpass 10. Try to aim for 5 or 6 number of combos.
-you shouldn't be mapping in 1/8 time. 1/4 time is sufficient.

-another note, combos such as the one starting at 03:30:339 should only be two sliders at a time, as it gets tiring.

err i've never really modded before, but those are a few things that were fairly obvious that i picked up on..
once you fix your timing i'll come back if you ask me. :3
1on_old
33 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
1on_old
xJeena
thank you!

-first of all, there shouldn't be so many timing sections. the timing in the song doesn't change, so you shouldn't have more than one bpm section
The timing in the song change and very often, this changes not large, but it strongly affects on gameplay. I tried to make only one timing section, so you can see result, i resnap first 55 seconds, ands i think result is not very good :)
Selee
1,556 posts
Joined February 2010
Selee
Sigh...not perfectly timed...cuz the beats varies with each section..
Here're the codes...
1110,841.514726507714,4,2,0,29,1,0
14813,856.531049250535,4,2,0,29,1,0
42221,838.808891374249,4,2,0,29,1,0
69098,845.070422535211,4,2,0,29,1,0
99426,824.175824175824,4,2,0,29,1,0
122547.27251977,806.993947545393,4,2,0,29,1,0
133845,789.473684210526,4,2,0,29,1,0
135423,795.755968169761,4,2,0,29,1,0
148139.140344912,782.268578878748,4,2,0,29,1,0
160694,764.818355640535,4,2,0,29,1,0
173013,767.263427109974,4,2,0,29,1,0
197583,774.693350548741,4,2,0,29,1,0
222389.747696143,806.451612903226,4,2,0,29,1,0
232067,810.810810810811,4,2,0,29,1,0
248380,796.812749003984,4,2,0,29,1,0
270674.447722014,817.438692098093,4,2,0,29,1,0
273940.237610142,817.438692098093,4,2,0,29,1,0
287068,817.438692098093,4,2,0,29,1,0
313278,827.586206896552,4,2,0,29,1,0
326482.133057635,810.810810810811,4,2,0,29,1,0
339493.697702626,823.717808219178,4,2,0,29,1,0
364255,882.352941176471,4,2,0,29,1,0
365137,1395.3488372093,4,2,0,29,1,0
IceBeam
osu! Alumni
1,957 posts
Joined December 2009
IceBeam
Во-первых,очень советую прочитать вот это

Иначе будешь долго допускать ошибки,и в итоге к ранку не приведет.

Битрейт MP3 файла 320 kbps.Должен быть максимум 192,это нужно обязательно исправить.

И ещё - музыка очень очень тихая,её едва слышно,может есть версия по-громче? ну или в ручную увеличить громкость?

А вообще,для первой мапы нужно было бы выбрать коротенькую песню с постоянным BPM,большим выбором инструментов и ,желательно, вокалом.
Вот на таких нужно учится.

Для ранка нужно сделать 2 сложности,одна из них должна быть ниже 3 звезд и на самом деле легкой.
Твой нормал не пойдет.

Поле Source нужно заполнять только в случае, если музыка/песня была написана для аниме/фильма/игры ну и т.п.

Поле Tags должно быть одинаковым на всех сложностях,так что нужно убрать Pachelbel из инсейна(уже есть в поле Artist).

[Normal]
Опять же,громкость слишком высокая,нужно понизить и добавлять хитсаунды(финиш,свисток,хлопок).Это критерий ранка.
00:35:369 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - Такие комбо слишком длинные,в идеале комбо должно быть не больше 10,так что дели на 2-3. У тебя таких моментов много,есть даже 04:31:900 (22),так что исправь сам.

00:55:641 (1) - Не делай джампы в нормалах.
01:38:675 - Добавь ноту для поддержания ритма.
01:39:426 - ^
01:41:898 - ^
02:02:547 (1) - Джамп через весь экран?
02:49:107 (7) - Не видно слайдертрека совсем,это неранкабельно.
03:30:365 (1) - Прыжок,убери.
04:19:535 (8) - Как-то не в тему и не в ритм.

Обрывается очень резко-это плохо.

К тому же,надо обрезать аудио ненужное,в таком случае.

[Insane]
Опять же нужны хитсаунды,и громкость убавить.
00:38:795 (1) - Странное расположение.Тогда уж надо подравнять 00:38:367 (10) под (1).

00:47:253 (6,7,8,9,10) - Нельзя изменять дистанцию в одном комбо.По таймлайну,расстояние между (1-5) в 1/4 бита,а между (6-10) в пол бита,но на игровом поле расстояние одинаково.Так быть не должно,поэтому либо исправляй дистанцию между (6-10),либо выделяй с 00:47:253 (6) новое комбо,тогда ты покажешь,что новое комбо - новая дистанция.

01:34:450 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Стримы ну совсем не подходят.
01:55:497 (8,9,10) - Вот тут тоже с дистанцией проблемы.(10)-ка слишком близко.
02:02:547 (x) - Почему нет киаи,как в нормале?
02:22:186 (5) - Выдели новое комбо,иначе сложно прочитать.
04:11:567 - Инсейн короче,чем нормал?

Ещё много работы.
Исправляй ошибки главные,проси больше моддинга,вообщем,удачи.

Звезда.
Last edited by IceBeam , edited 1 time in total.
1on_old
33 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
1on_old
Во-первых,очень советую прочитать вот это
Пробегал глазами, некоторые моменты правил в соответствии с этим. Почитаю по внимательней :)

И ещё - музыка очень очень тихая,её едва слышно,может есть версия по-громче? ну или в ручную увеличить громкость?
Я уже увеличивал громкость, но похоже недостаточно. В ближайшее время ещё по громе сделаю.

А вообще,для первой мапы нужно было бы выбрать коротенькую песню с постоянным BPM,большим выбором инструментов и ,желательно, вокалом.
Вот на таких нужно учится.
К тому времени, как я понял, что эту будет тяжеловато закончить, было уже много чего сделано и жалко было бросать :)

Опять же,громкость слишком высокая,нужно понизить и добавлять хитсаунды(финиш,свисток,хлопок).Это критерий ранка.
Прошу прощения, я для себя сделал по громче хитсануды, чтобы слышать когда в музыку а когда нет. Когда с расстановкой нот закончу займусь хитсаундами.

Обрывается очень резко-это плохо.
Мне тоже самому не очень нравится, но иначе очков слишком много будет. Может сделать затухание звука в конце?

Спасибо за помощь, буду исправлять :)
IceBeam
osu! Alumni
1,957 posts
Joined December 2009
IceBeam

1on wrote:

Обрывается очень резко-это плохо.
Мне тоже самому не очень нравится, но иначе очков слишком много будет. Может сделать затухание звука в конце?
Да,больше 5 минут на ранк не пойдет и очков не должно быть больше 10-15 миллионов - тоже не ранкабельно,но для аппрувда пойдет.

Было бы хорошо найти какой-то момент,где ты бы ты заканчивал все сложности,в одном месте,ну и да,затухание не помешало бы,а то резко обрезать тоже не надо.

Карта хорошая,для 1-ой.Исправь хотя бы особо важное - хитсаунды добавить,наверное,софт свистки и финишы,ну и легкую сложность - обязательно.
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
General:
Cut the mp3 to save space; you only use 4:08 of a 6 minutes song.
The mp3 is quite soft, especially in comparison to hitsounds. Particularly, the drumroll on sliders of easy are very noisy. Either raise the mp3 volume or lower it for hitsounds. Try varying the hitsound volume according to the volume of the song.

Easy:
00:30:230 (1) - Jumps are best avoided in easy difficulties
00:32:157 (2) - Delete this note
00:34:941 (2) - ^
01:46:019 (1) - Looks ugly, try making it more even
02:51:401 (1) - Lower the volume of the end of this spinner

Normal:
00:25:091 (5,6) - Awkward rhythm, try deleting 6 and extending 5 by 1/4 beat.
01:27:267 (5) - Not quite symmetric
01:29:379 (1,2) - Try adjusting so that the distance between the start of 1 and end of 2 is the same as the distance between end of 1 and start of 2
01:50:140 (2,3) - Try to get 2 to "wrap around" 3. Or at least have 3 point to center of 2.
02:10:415 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These notes slightly fall off beat; a new timing section with a different offset is probably needed.
02:51:019 (4) - it's hard to tell this is a slider because of 1 obscuring it.
02:53:396 (1) - The jumps from here to the break have no pattern at all, consider adding something.
03:33:464 (5,6) - Spacing; too far apart

Insane:
01:34:450 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Triplets don't fit music.
02:37:526 (1) - Why is this 1/8th beat long instead of 1/4th?
Jumps: See normal
03:21:069 (5) - Hard to tell this is a repeat slider since (3,4) hide the sign.
03:38:112 (5) - Asymmetrical
03:50:454 (1,2,3,4) - Very noisy, try making only the start of each slider a clap.
03:55:513- Sudden increase in slider velocity is confusing...


Your use of circles and sliders fit the music quite well temporally, but spatially your patterns seemed all over the place. Slightly better in Insane, but the problem was still present.

Starred!
Kuroneko-sHerald
1,081 posts
Joined August 2008
Kuroneko-sHerald
[General]
If you don't map all the song you should cut the mp3.
I suggest to silence the sliderslide (the sound that a slider makes when you hold the mouse).
To do this just download and unzip this file. Then full submit.
Download: soft-sliderslide.zip



[Easy]
00:30:230 (1) - Spacing. This beat is too far from 00:29:802 (3) - and it's not suitable for an easy.
00:32:157 (2) - Remove?
02:02:950 (2) - Same here between the beat and 02:02:547 (1) -

[Normal]
Circle size 4?
00:47:673 (2,3,4) - Move 1 grid down (grid size level 3)
01:17:971 (6,7) - 1 grid up
01:23:886 (4) - 1 grid up
01:24:731 (6) - 1 grid left
01:25:999 (1) - 1 grid up
01:33:182 (8) - 1 grid up, 1 right
01:34:027 (1) - Stack this better, it should conicide with the end of 01:33:605 (9) -
There is a simple way to do it: Delete 01:34:027 (1) - then see image below.

01:34:872 (3) - 1 grid left, 1 down
02:11:625 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Please spacing this beats.
02:30:094 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 5 grid rigth, 3 down.
02:31:659 (1) - 2 grid right, 3 up and flipped like the image.

02:34:006 (5) - Add a repeat and remove 02:34:397 (6) - and add clap at the end of slider.


akrolsmir wrote:

Your use of circles and sliders fit the music quite well temporally, but spatially your patterns seemed all over the place. Slightly better in Insane, but the problem was still present.
I couldn't have said it better.

No star for now, sorry :?


1on_old
33 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
1on_old
akrolsmir
Kuroneko-sHerald
Thank you very much!

Easy:
00:30:230 (1) - Jumps are best avoided in easy difficulties Done
00:32:157 (2) - Delete this note Done
00:34:941 (2) - ^ Done
01:46:019 (1) - Looks ugly, try making it more even Slider remaked, i maked it more sharpen but i think it will more correspond to music
02:51:401 (1) - Lower the volume of the end of this spinnerDone

Normal:
00:25:091 (5,6) - Awkward rhythm, try deleting 6 and extending 5 by 1/4 beat. Done
01:27:267 (5) - Not quite symmetric I think done :)
01:29:379 (1,2) - Try adjusting so that the distance between the start of 1 and end of 2 is the same as the distance between end of 1 and start of 2 Done
01:50:140 (2,3) - Try to get 2 to "wrap around" 3. Or at least have 3 point to center of 2. Done
02:10:415 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These notes slightly fall off beat; a new timing section with a different offset is probably needed.
02:51:019 (4) - it's hard to tell this is a slider because of 1 obscuring it. Done
02:53:396 (1) - The jumps from here to the break have no pattern at all, consider adding something. I thought that it is interesting :)
03:33:464 (5,6) - Spacing; too far apart Done

Insane:
01:34:450 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Triplets don't fit music. Done
02:37:526 (1) - Why is this 1/8th beat long instead of 1/4th? Done
Jumps: See normal
03:21:069 (5) - Hard to tell this is a repeat slider since (3,4) hide the sign. Done
03:38:112 (5) - Asymmetrical Done
03:50:454 (1,2,3,4) - Very noisy, try making only the start of each slider a clap. Done
03:55:513- Sudden increase in slider velocity is confusing... That`s why i added caution board.
All Kuroneko-sHerald`s remarks are done.
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akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
Normal Recheck as per PM request; No kudos please.

Not sure if any of the opening sliders are meant to be symmetric. Below are the ones that seem almost symmetric but are not quite right:
SPOILER
00:14:813 (1) -
00:16:526 (2) -
00:21:665 (5) -
00:25:091 (5) -
00:43:059 (2) - Modify this to fit the curve of (3).
01:04:449 (4) - 1 Grid down to be the center
01:09:098 (1) - Long stream of 1/2 beats gets a little repetitive.
03:29:203 (7,8,9) - It's a little too confusing for normal right now, try making it clearer. It might help to have some of the next sliders be away from the previous circles since the splash from previous notes stays on screen and hides some of the next ones.

Your patterns for short sliders and circles were good. However, I found many of the longer sliders to be not pretty enough. I think that if the slider is curved, it should be symmetric or wrapping around something. If it is wrapping around something, make sure the lines of the slider remain parallel to whatever it's wrapping.

In general, though, it looks a lot better!
1on_old
33 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
1on_old
Not sure if any of the opening sliders are meant to be symmetric. Below are the ones that seem almost symmetric but are not quite right Fixed

00:43:059 (2) - Modify this to fit the curve of (3).Fixed
01:04:449 (4) - 1 Grid down to be the centerFixed
01:09:098 (1) - Long stream of 1/2 beats gets a little repetitive.Fixed
03:29:203 (7,8,9) - It's a little too confusing for normal right now, try making it clearer. It might help to have some of the next sliders be away from the previous circles since the splash from previous notes stays on screen and hides some of the next ones.Fixed
Leorda
4,416 posts
Joined June 2009
Leorda
Privet

General
* Remove "Canon" in tags, it's already in title
* Please set the preview time in 02:02:547 (Timing -> Set Current Position as Preview Time)
* Please cut your mp3. If you can't, try ask someone. I have an edited MP3 but I can't upload it due the upload speed problem

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Easy
00:21:665 (3) - Please make it symetric
00:31:943 (1,2,3) - This pattern would make confusing for beginner player, please change some pattern
00:35:369 (2) - New combo
01:07:385 (1) - The spinner was too short, please extend it or replace to slider
01:42:722 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern seems boring, change it something else
01:46:019 (1) - These slider are pretty strange. This is linear slider but other was bezier slider
02:02:547 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod
02:03:757 (3,4,5) - The spacing was too small for easy diff, please remove (4)
02:28:139 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Normal
* Please make the spacing consistent, some distance spacing are 1,5x and 1,0x. Please make it consistent, I suggest you to use distance spacing of 1,2x

01:09:098 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - I guess these pattern are needs more smooth
01:49:316 (1) - Inconsistent spacing
02:02:547 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod
02:02:950 (2,3,4) - I really don't like when (3) and (4) place in slider
02:06:180 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod
02:09:406 (7) - New combo
02:10:415 (1) - Remove new combo
02:12:231 (5) - New combo
02:28:139 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod
02:32:441 (2,3,4,5) - This is seems confusing
02:53:396 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - These jumps are inappropriate for normal diff
03:19:132 (3,4,5) - I really don't like when (4) and (5) place in slider
03:25:717 (3) - Move further away from previous slider, it's awkward to see it at gameplay
03:25:717 (3,4,5,6) - I really don't like when (4), (5) and (6) place in slider
03:42:389 (2) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod
03:55:715 (1) - Finish and clap in these slider are make no sense

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hard
* I don't see where is the speedx2.png in Design Mode http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/79596

01:32:759 (7) - New combo
01:33:182 (8) - Extend it to blue tick
01:33:605 (9) - ^
01:49:110 (1,2,3) - It doesn't make sense to add finish to this
01:59:721 (6) - Remove this
02:01:369 (6) - ^
02:02:547 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod
02:28:139 (1) - ^
02:31:072 (7) - Inconsistent spacing
02:40:694 (1,2,3) - It doesn't make sense to add finish to this
02:43:753 (1) - ^
03:42:389 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod
03:52:105 (1) - ^

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Needs more work, but not bad at all

EDIT : Give me a kudosu please, since my mod was useful for you
Last edited by Leorda , edited 1 time in total.
1on_old
33 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
1on_old
Thank you!! :)

Leorda wrote:

General
* Remove "Canon" in tags, it's already in title Fixed
* Please set the preview time in 02:02:547 (Timing -> Set Current Position as Preview Time) Fixed
* Please cut your mp3. If you can't, try ask someone. I have an edited MP3 but I can't upload it due the upload speed problem I`m sorry. I cut mp3 some time ago, but i did`t know that standart submission does not update music/

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Easy
00:21:665 (3) - Please make it symetric Fixed
00:31:943 (1,2,3) - This pattern would make confusing for beginner player, please change some pattern Fixed
00:35:369 (2) - New combo Fixed
01:07:385 (1) - The spinner was too short, please extend it or replace to slider Fixed
01:42:722 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This pattern seems boring, change it something else Fixed
01:46:019 (1) - These slider are pretty strange. This is linear slider but other was bezier slider Fixed
02:02:547 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod Fixed
02:03:757 (3,4,5) - The spacing was too small for easy diff, please remove (4) Fixed
02:28:139 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Normal
* Please make the spacing consistent, some distance spacing are 1,5x and 1,0x. Please make it consistent, I suggest you to use distance spacing of 1,2x

01:09:098 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - I guess these pattern are needs more smooth
01:49:316 (1) - Inconsistent spacing Fixed
02:02:547 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod
02:02:950 (2,3,4) - I really don't like when (3) and (4) place in slider Fixed
02:06:180 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod Fixed
02:09:406 (7) - New combo Fixed
02:10:415 (1) - Remove new combo Fixed
02:12:231 (5) - New combo Fixed
02:28:139 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod
02:32:441 (2,3,4,5) - This is seems confusing Fixed
02:53:396 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - These jumps are inappropriate for normal diff Fixed
03:19:132 (3,4,5) - I really don't like when (4) and (5) place in slider Fixed
03:25:717 (3) - Move further away from previous slider, it's awkward to see it at gameplay Fixed
03:25:717 (3,4,5,6) - I really don't like when (4), (5) and (6) place in slider Fixed
03:42:389 (2) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod Fixed
03:55:715 (1) - Finish and clap in these slider are make no sense

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hard
* I don't see where is the speedx2.png in Design Mode http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/79596

01:32:759 (7) - New combo Fixed
01:33:182 (8) - Extend it to blue tick Fixed
01:33:605 (9) - ^ Fixed
01:49:110 (1,2,3) - It doesn't make sense to add finish to this Fixed
01:59:721 (6) - Remove this Fixed
02:01:369 (6) - ^ Fixed
02:02:547 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod Fixed
02:28:139 (1) - ^ Can`t fix, becouse this circle between two sections.
02:31:072 (7) - Inconsistent spacing Fixed
02:40:694 (1,2,3) - It doesn't make sense to add finish to this Fixed
02:43:753 (1) - ^ Fixed
03:42:389 (1) - Unsnapped notes, check AIMod Fixed
03:52:105 (1) - ^ Fixed
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Pereira006
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Pereira006
hello

[Easy]

00:30:230 (1) - Remove new combo if you do this Remove new combo 00:31:087 and 00:31:943
00:37:082 (6) - Remove new combo if you do this put New combo at 00:37:939
01:12:900 (1) - Remove New combo if you do this put New combo at 01:13:323
01:42:722 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Like this ?

If you do this Fix Spacing 01:46:019 (1,2,3,4,5)

[Normal]

Use this

This perfect for me

Lot spacing erro because you use 1.0x and 2.0 have lot erro spacing
Hold ALT and look Beat Snap Divisor change to Distance Spacing and click 1.0 and fix all spacing

Example this 00:16:526 (2,3) Click 2 you will see this that is erro spacing you must fix
this diff have so much spacing erro pleasse don´t ignore the spacing erro
fix ok

Note:I can make this Normal diff more fix and funny if you wanna call me in-game if not that´s okay just you can sayd no if you wish

[Insane]

this for me i think is fine just for me ok

star

(you can sayd not fix if you wish and why)

good luck
1on_old
33 posts
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Topic Starter
1on_old

Pereira006 wrote:

[Easy]

00:30:230 (1) - Remove new combo if you do this Remove new combo 00:31:087 and 00:31:943 Fixed
00:37:082 (6) - Remove new combo if you do this put New combo at 00:37:939 Fixed
01:12:900 (1) - Remove New combo if you do this put New combo at 01:13:323 Fixed
01:42:722 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Like this ? i make another pattern

[Normal]
Use this
This perfect for me I think it will be to easy, but i changed some options based on your recomendations

Lot spacing erro because you use 1.0x and 2.0 have lot erro spacing I use 1.0 and 1.5. Places were spacing is not 1.0 or 1.5 are my faults. Now i think, resnap all elements to 1.2 or leave it as is.
Thank you for help :)
Pereira006
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Pereira006
hello

sorry delay

i did see you PM me so here

Download: Pachelbel - Canon in D (1on) [Normal].osu

I just only fix spacing and slider change lot
i not nothing delete note and slider ok i just fix spacing
Ho also
this is not normal this is hard because higher score and haver jump
If you like this change hard

Well I hope you like it if not that´s okay if you wish ok

Good luck

(NO kudosu here, thank)
1on_old
33 posts
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Topic Starter
1on_old
Some places are realy better now, but i want to leave some patterns from my version.
loveFantasy
526 posts
Joined August 2008
loveFantasy
you need to find someone better at timing (i'm not timing expert, but can feel the following sections are really off to me while playing)
00:23:378 - 00:37:939 (00:28:517 - 00:32:800 is extremely off)
^ i can't time this
02:15:423 - 02:24:972 (BPM might be wrong, first few notes come really early), following 02:25:369.. and section at 02:28:221 may be a prove, since there is a large gap between <02:28:155> (1,2)
^ add a section at 02:18:620, BPM 75.07, resnap all notes
02:39:172.. there might be another section nearby, i can't time it well but adding a section at 02:39:172. BPM 77.60 would be better

if you see such a big gap between 2 timing sections, either previous section has a wrong bpm, or there's another timing between this section and next section:
SPOILER

[Easy]
<00:48:931> (5) new combo,
<00:50:609> (1) remove new combo,
<00:52:706> (3) new combo
- hmm i see more strange new combos, try to sync it with high white ticks
<01:27:689> (2) i would suggest break this into shorter sliders/circles, can't hit on 01:29:379 and 01:30:224 while the music flow tempted me to hit
<01:37:830> (2) snap the ending point to <01:39:414> (yellow tick) would be better
<02:02:502> (1) snap to red timing sections (02:02:547), previous section may have a wrong BPM, there's a gap here
<02:15:820> (1) remove finish at endpoint
<02:45:282> (6,1,2,3,4) a bit ugly arrangement

almost same problem in Normal/Insane so i'll leave it here

[Normal]
<03:30:365> (1,2,3,4) this is a bit weird, same to 03:33:076

[Insane]
- about 1/8s i have two things to mention: 1. triplet fit better than doublet in this song, so if it's ok to you, change all doublets into triplets, it'll solve spacing consistency at the same time and leave you a neat and tidy layout; 2. you use many reverse jumps on 1/8s (hmm like the doublets jump at starting part, or like 02:13:845 (1) and (4). ) imo place them like this flow better:
SPOILER

these two are just my opinion and you can ignore if you don't like

call me for a full mod for Normal/Insane if you fixed timing problem, they're a bit annoying to play atm
1on_old
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Topic Starter
1on_old

loveFantasy wrote:

you need to find someone better at timing (i'm not timing expert, but can feel the following sections are really off to me while playing)
00:23:378 - 00:37:939 (00:28:517 - 00:32:800 is extremely off)
^ i can't time this
02:15:423 - 02:24:972 (BPM might be wrong, first few notes come really early), following 02:25:369.. and section at 02:28:221 may be a prove, since there is a large gap between <02:28:155> (1,2)
^ add a section at 02:18:620, BPM 75.07, resnap all notes
02:39:172.. there might be another section nearby, i can't time it well but adding a section at 02:39:172. BPM 77.60 would be better
I think Fixed :)

[Easy]
<00:48:931> (5) new combo, Fixed
<00:50:609> (1) remove new combo, Fixed
<00:52:706> (3) new combo Fixed
- hmm i see more strange new combos, try to sync it with high white ticks Fixed
<01:27:689> (2) i would suggest break this into shorter sliders/circles, can't hit on 01:29:379 and 01:30:224 while the music flow tempted me to hit Fixed
<01:37:830> (2) snap the ending point to <01:39:414> (yellow tick) would be better Fixed
<02:02:502> (1) snap to red timing sections (02:02:547), previous section may have a wrong BPM, there's a gap here Fixed
<02:15:820> (1) remove finish at endpoint Fixed
<02:45:282> (6,1,2,3,4) a bit ugly arrangement Fixed

[Normal]
<03:30:365> (1,2,3,4) this is a bit weird, same to 03:33:076 Maybe, but i think it is interesting :)

[Insane]
- about 1/8s i have two things to mention: 1. triplet fit better than doublet in this song, so if it's ok to you, change all doublets into triplets, it'll solve spacing consistency at the same time and leave you a neat and tidy layout; 2. you use many reverse jumps on 1/8s (hmm like the doublets jump at starting part, or like 02:13:845 (1) and (4). ) imo place them like this flow better: Some places are changed
Thank you for your help!!
Nadina120
135 posts
Joined March 2010
Nadina120
Amazing ...star 8-)
This is the saddest :( most fantastic :lol: piece of music .. I love the harpsichord and the violins
.
:)
1on_old
33 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
1on_old
Nadina120 Thank you, Canon is realy awesome
HakuNoKaemi
3,828 posts
Joined October 2009
HakuNoKaemi
[General]
i have a "soft-hitnormal - ä{äÇäüäyäæ.wav" in the folder... please do something?
[Easy]
Use higher Spacing because like this it's hardly readable or substitute it with this (to make the sopacing stay, it have got my other mod to)
00:55:649 (1,2,3,4,5) - hmm, like this?

02:19:849 (2,3,4,5) - like this

Download: Pachelbel - Canon in D (1on) [Easy].osu <- i applied the mod plus made it easier to read, try this if you don't want to change the spacing

[Normal]
00:42:221 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Please make all those slider end in Red Tick's... as you don't follow music if you make them end in blue, plus is almost unplayable
00:50:614 (7,8) - ^
00:53:971 (6,7) - ^
01:24:309 (1,2,3,4) - Move them like
SPOILER

01:29:379 (1,2) - Please make all those slider end in Red Tick's... as you don't follow music if you make them end in blue, plus is almost unplayable
02:36:210 (3) - I can't see this nearly all the time I play it
1on_old
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Topic Starter
1on_old

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

[General]
i have a "soft-hitnormal - ä{äÇäüäyäæ.wav" in the folder... please do something? Fixed
[Easy]
Use higher Spacing because like this it's hardly readable or substitute it with this (to make the sopacing stay, it have got my other mod to) I think i will do this

[Normal]
00:42:221 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Please make all those slider end in Red Tick's... as you don't follow music if you make them end in blue, plus is almost unplayable I don`t agree with you. Maybe this part is not completely follows music, but such patter i think more interesting and... more lovely :)
00:50:614 (7,8) - ^
00:53:971 (6,7) - ^
01:24:309 (1,2,3,4) - Move them like I don`t understand this
01:29:379 (1,2) - Please make all those slider end in Red Tick's... as you don't follow music if you make them end in blue, plus is almost unplayable In this part i agree with you :)
02:36:210 (3) - I can't see this nearly all the time I play it I think fixed
HakuNoKaemi
3,828 posts
Joined October 2009
HakuNoKaemi
[Normal]
01:24:309 (1,2,3,4) - Move them like I don`t understand this
Step-by-Step
1)01:24:309 (1) - Move this under 01:23:464 (3) -
2)01:24:731 (2) - Move this under 01:23:041 (2) -
3)01:25:154 (3) - Move this under01:22:619 (1) -

If you move them in this manner, it will seem nicer and more easily readable
1on_old
33 posts
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Topic Starter
1on_old

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

[Normal]
01:24:309 (1,2,3,4) - Move them like I don`t understand this
Step-by-Step
1)01:24:309 (1) - Move this under 01:23:464 (3) -
2)01:24:731 (2) - Move this under 01:23:041 (2) -
3)01:25:154 (3) - Move this under01:22:619 (1) -
If you move them in this manner, it will seem nicer and more easily readable
Ok Finished :)
Danglars
1 post
Joined March 2011
Danglars
Really relaxing
Love the flow of the map to the melody and how it follows the beat

So pretty
Wafu
1,703 posts
Joined June 2011
Wafu
Here is my mod. (Request in modding queue)

[-General-]

Remove Pachelbel - Canon in D (1on).osb.

Easy, Normal and Insane haves diffirent Preview Point. Put it in 1/1.

[-Easy-]

Offset of 1st Inherited Point: 235358
^ 2nd Inherited Point: 247556

[-Normal-]

Ok

[-Insane-]

Follow that what I wrote at easy.
bmin11
5,438 posts
Joined October 2008
bmin11
[Insane]
Volumes are rather small... Volume would be a tough one to handle with this song I can imagine.
00:55:697 (1) - could have spaced this to not overlap with a slider.
01:04:963 (4) - Move this to the right so it is on the center.
01:06:647 (4,5,6) - Place it like this? Just an opinion.
01:22:196 (4) - Move this farther away so it doesn't overlap. It gives us a wrong idea.
01:28:534 (5) - New combo this atleast.
02:21:241 (1) - Move this farther away so it doesn't overlap. It gives us a wrong idea.
03:22:644 (7) - Move this farther away so it doesn't overlap. It gives us a wrong idea.
03:50:520 (1,2,3,4,1) - I think you abused the hitsound a bit.

[Normal]
Feels a bit too hard for a [Normal]. You should name this [Hard] IMO.
01:24:309 (1,2) - These should be a single slider.
01:25:154 (3,4) - These should be a single slider.
02:33:677 (4) - Very hard to read for a [Normal]. I would use a different pattern.
02:52:015 (6) - Very hard to read for a [Normal]. I would use a different pattern.
02:52:969 (x) - I would add a note here.
03:55:764 (1) - Delete the first two finishes, and leave the last one. You can do this by actually clicking on the slider's ends (on screen, or on the timing line)

[Easy]
+1 for slider tick? It honestly plays well with those slow sliders, and sounds well in the same time. Make sure to recalculate the slider length after doing so, and also check if there isn't any slider problems afterwards.


Such sensitive BPMs and you have done a great job on those. Good luck!
1on_old
33 posts
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Topic Starter
1on_old
Volumes are rather small... Volume would be a tough one to handle with this song I can imagine.
I thought abou it, but concluded that this size is better.
Feels a bit too hard for a [Normal]. You should name this [Hard] IMO.
I was thinking about it too, and i agree with you :)
02:33:677 (4) - Very hard to read for a [Normal]. I would use a different pattern.
02:52:015 (6) - Very hard to read for a [Normal]. I would use a different pattern.
Now it`s hard and i left as is.

I agree with all other tips and corrected map according to them.

Such sensitive BPMs and you have done a great job on those. Good luck!
Thank you for modding!! And good luck you too!
Lissette
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Lissette
Hello~

I'm not very good with multiples BPM but I felt timing off in some part, you should get a pro timer to check this out

Insane
00:28:563 (1,2,3) - this sounds totally off, try this http://puu.sh/i7xX
00:38:830 - sounds better a slider without reverse, till here 00:39:254 -
00:55:697 (1) - stack under prev slider end properly
01:03:910 (1) - delete note
01:32:759 (1) - this slider is hidden by prev hit bursts
01:35:717 (1,2,3,4) - wrong spacing, look in timeline
02:33:872 - add note
02:37:574 (1,2) - sound better this way, http://puu.sh/i7Ct try it
02:44:573 (3) - place this slider like this cuz as it is look like an wrong timing and is confusing http://puu.sh/i7E0
02:54:595 to 03:04:953 - the new combo pattern on this section is wrong, should be a new combo every 4 beats, starting here 02:54:595
03:20:609 (3,4) - sounds off, delete 3
03:28:362 (5,6) - same
03:36:212 (4) - combo should start here, remove new combo from 03:36:599 -
03:44:875 (3,4) - sounds off too, remove 4
03:48:907 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1) - what does this follow? try following the music
04:04:507 (8) - reverse arrow is hidden by hit-bursts
There are some parts that i think are over-mapped, song is so soft and doesn't needs too much notes
add a break-time in the middle, the one you have is too far

Hard
00:59:067 (7) - new combo, and remove from here 01:00:751 (1) -
01:02:436 - add new combo
03:30:009 (3,1) - add new combo on 3, remove from 1
03:41:251 (1) - remove new combo and add it here 03:42:414 (2) - also snap it properly
03:44:471 (1) - remove new combo
03:45:680 - add new combo, etc etc, try following the same pattern in whole song

Easy
01:52:244 (4) - slider end is unsnapped due to offset, place a note here instead
add break-time somewhere in the middle

Hitsounds are too low, make them higher
Also I think you should map a Normal diff
1on_old
33 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
1on_old

Lissette wrote:

Hello~

I'm not very good with multiples BPM but I felt timing off in some part, you should get a pro timer to check this out

Insane
00:28:563 (1,2,3) - this sounds totally off, try this http://puu.sh/i7xX Fixed
00:38:830 - sounds better a slider without reverse, till here 00:39:254 - Fixed
00:55:697 (1) - stack under prev slider end properly Fixed
01:03:910 (1) - delete note Fixed
01:32:759 (1) - this slider is hidden by prev hit bursts I think it`s visible :)
01:35:717 (1,2,3,4) - wrong spacing, look in timeline Don`t understand this
02:33:872 - add note Maybe you are right, but with this timing it sounds bad. Maybe i will change timing and add this note
02:37:574 (1,2) - sound better this way, http://puu.sh/i7Ct try it Fixed
02:44:573 (3) - place this slider like this cuz as it is look like an wrong timing and is confusing http://puu.sh/i7E0 Fixed
02:54:595 to 03:04:953 - the new combo pattern on this section is wrong, should be a new combo every 4 beats, starting here 02:54:595 Fixed
03:20:609 (3,4) - sounds off, delete 3
03:28:362 (5,6) - same
03:36:212 (4) - combo should start here, remove new combo from 03:36:599 -
03:44:875 (3,4) - sounds off too, remove 4 Fixed
03:48:907 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1) - what does this follow? try following the music It folows violin on the back :)
04:04:507 (8) - reverse arrow is hidden by hit-bursts Fixed
There are some parts that i think are over-mapped, song is so soft and doesn't needs too much notes
add a break-time in the middle, the one you have is too far I will try to find place for it.

Hard
00:59:067 (7) - new combo, and remove from here 01:00:751 (1) - Fixed
01:02:436 - add new combo Fixed
03:30:009 (3,1) - add new combo on 3, remove from 1 Don`t agree
03:41:251 (1) - remove new combo and add it here 03:42:414 (2) - also snap it properlyFixed
03:44:471 (1) - remove new comboFixed
03:45:680 - add new combo, etc etc, try following the same pattern in whole songFixed

Easy
01:52:244 (4) - slider end is unsnapped due to offset, place a note here instead Fixed
add break-time somewhere in the middle Fixed

Hitsounds are too low, make them higher
Also I think you should map a Normal diff
Thank you for modding!!
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Kuroneko-sHerald
1,081 posts
Joined August 2008
Kuroneko-sHerald
Time to recheck (after 11 months XD)

[General]

I suggest to add a timing point with 5% volume at the end slider (04:08:380 (1) - for Hard and Insane, 02:51:442 (1) - for easy)
(see attached file below)

I think you need to add more hitsounds.
This is my try, if you like it feel free to use it and do something similar in the other diffs.


Download: Pachelbel - Canon in D (1on) [Hard hit].osu


[Easy]

These are just suggestions.

00:26:845 (4) - 1 grid down
00:30:282 (4) - ^
00:31:142 (1,2,3) - ^
00:32:861 (5) - 1 grid down, 1 right
01:07:069 (6) - 1 grid right
01:35:717 (3) - 1 grid left
01:49:764 (2) - 1 grid up
01:56:793 (3) - 1 grid left
Driske3
56 posts
Joined October 2012
Driske3
first of all: man ist a shame that this is stll in the graveyard...such a masterpiece shouldn´t be in such a dark place :/

[Insane]

00:32:323 (2) - remove that circle and instantly do it here: 00:32:216 (2) -
00:59:067 (1) - remove the slider and just add a circle at this point...the 3 sliders at once doesn´t sound nicely...ths same on the hard diff :)
03:20:609 (3) - ,eh...just the same as the first point...put the circle her: 03:20:512 (3) -
03:33:110 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - like this option...just do it a few more times in this part instead of the slider and reverse-sliders :)
1on_old
33 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
1on_old
Hello everyone! Seems like i can`t finish this map. If someone want to finish this map, please take it, will be happy if people can play in osu with pachelbel`s canon
1on_old
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1on_old
Driske3
Kuroneko-sHerald
Done. Ok, let`s try to finish job after a couple of years :lol:
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