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Amasia Landscape - Shangri-La (Tougenkyou)

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LeMoonwalker
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on vendredi 11 juillet 2008 at 16:31:18

Artist: Amasia Landscape
Title: Shangri-La
BPM: 100
Filesize: 12847kb
Play Time: 02:33
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,48 stars, 138 notes)
  2. Normal (3,14 stars, 213 notes)
  3. Burai's Hard (4,35 stars, 250 notes)
Download: Amasia Landscape - Shangri-La
Download: Amasia Landscape - Shangri-La (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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A beautiful Japanese song (with female vocals), which serves as the 3rd Viewtiful Joe ending.
I added video footage (the ending credits of the anime), though I think you should disable video if you're not playing for the first time.
I've made an Easy and a Normal mode, special thanks to buraimaster for his hard one and all his advices ;)
machol30
My advice is to follow quarter/eighth notes (white/red lines) as much as possible. Places like at [01:01:23] (2) on Easy for sliders are okay as long as the end beat is at quarter or eighth beat. Still on Easy, notes like on [01:36:41] (4) should be placed just a tad later, so it's on the red line. Also, at [01:43:16] (4) could be placed a tad later -or- earlier; I'd go with earlier. [1:47:36] (2) needs to start earlier and prolong it a little. Also, spacing at [02:30:78] (whole combo) is confusing.

Now for Normal... I'm not sure if I already picked this up in Easy mode, but please use consistent spacing. You could use distance snap as a reference, which is what I do. You can also adjust the distance spacing by holding down alt. [02:23:28] (4,5) - bring closer to 2 and 3.

Now, there is some more issues with this, but I want you to figure it out from there. ;) The main problem is the timing. Make sure to double-check it when you're done before you upload. Do that and add a Hard mode. This looks like a great song to map. I might take a crack at making a difficulty, if you don't mind, and show you a few things you can do with a Hard mode. :P
Topic Starter
LeMoonwalker
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
machol30
Still timing problems.

Here:
BPM: 100.00
Offset: 1,980

Remove the second timing section and resnap all notes as 1/4. (this is for Normal as well)
And starting at [01:18:77], most notes will end up early.
Spacing is fine. I'll check up with you after that.

edit: Okay, I made my version of hard. Feel free to use this in any way you please.

Download: Amasia Landscape - Shangri-La (LeMoonwalker) [Burai's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
LeMoonwalker
Thanks for your advices. I followed them, resnapped some sliders and added your difficulty (thanks for it, it's great !) to the osz file. :)
machol30
Getting there. ;)

-Easy-
[00:35:88] (1): should end at 00:36:48
[01:19:23] (2): might want to move to 01:19:68 and space out a little more?
[02:07:98] (1): should end at 02:08:58

-Normal-
Still timing issues, but less spacing problems. Too many to say.

I'll check it again once you got some of that. ;)
Topic Starter
LeMoonwalker

buraimaster1234 wrote:

Getting there. ;)

-Easy-
[00:35:88] (1): should end at 00:36:48
[01:19:23] (2): might want to move to 01:19:68 and space out a little more?
[02:07:98] (1): should end at 02:08:58

I'll check it again once you got some of that. ;)
Aw, I can't believe I missed those :o

Thanks for being so nice and patient ;)
Anyway, I re-uploaded a new version with the changes you suggested and some minor others (especially in normal). :)
machol30
Not so much fixed in Normal mode.

[00:26:43](5): sounds better at 00:26:28. And bring closer to 4.
[00:31:23](5): same.
[00:44:88](2): end at 00:48:48.
[00:48:63](0): begin at 00:48:78 and end at 00:49:68. Also, I think whistle sounds good there. :3
[00:51:70](3): move to whole beat.
[00:54:03](3): same.
[00:57:55](4): move to half beat.
[00:59:20](4): same.

hmm... starting at 00:51:18, things start to get off. Now, I haven't checked the rest of the map yet. Are you using 1/8 beat snap? Be sure you're using 1/4 and 1/2.
I'll recheck it once you resubmit and update.
machol30
Awesome.

Going back on Easy:
[00:35:28](2): space closer to slider.
[01:00:78](1): bring a little closer to 2.
[01:43:68](*): sounds weird without that beat there. Maybe you could have [01:43:08](4) slider?
[02:08:88](1,2): bring closer to slider.

Normal:
[00:56:28](2): Space evenly between 1 and 3.
[00:59:13](4,5): move 1/4 beat ahead.
[01:25:08](1,1,2): Vertical flip and leave 2 in the center? Also, bring slider left a little.
[01:33:63](5): begin and end at red ticks and space accordingly.
[02:04:83](4): move 1/4 beat back.
[02:21:63](4): move down so it's level with rest of the combo and space accordingly. I'm unsure about this note. It doesn't sound right at 02:21:48 nor 02:21:63.
[02:30:78](1): Unsure of spacing there, but minor.

Starred pending changes.
Topic Starter
LeMoonwalker
Thanks again, buraimaster.
I really appreciate it ;)
machol30
Okay, found a few thing in Hard. Updated: Download: Amasia Landscape - Shangri-La (LeMoonwalker) [Burai's Hard].osu :P
Topic Starter
LeMoonwalker
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
machol30
Awesome! I approve (Only some of the sounds don't feel right). Bubbled. Will try and get someone to rank this. ;)
Topic Starter
LeMoonwalker
Wow, thank you !! :)

Only some of the sounds don't feel right
You mean like that note at 02:21:63 in normal ?
Maybe, sometimes it's because the singer isn't totally singing along the timing... I don't know. :|
machol30

LeMoonwalker wrote:

You mean like that note at 02:21:63 in normal ?
Maybe, sometimes it's because the singer isn't totally singing along the timing... I don't know. :|
Not really, but that note does bring some problems. I meant sounds as in whistles and finishes.
Topic Starter
LeMoonwalker

buraimaster1234 wrote:

I meant sounds as in whistles and finishes.
Ah, that's what I thought at first.
Any particular instances ?
machol30
On Easy, combos like at 00:28:08 just doesn't feel right. Like adding a whistle at final note could fix it. or combo at 00:37:68. the final note could be whistle.
On Normal, a whistle could be placed at [00:35:88](5). Also, you could take whistle away from [01:03:18](1) and place it on [01:03:78](4).
Also, on the final spinner on both Easy and Normal could be used with whistle instead of finish.

Now, I'm not going to tell you everything there. but take those in note. Also, take a look at Hard mode and listen for the sounds I used there.
Topic Starter
LeMoonwalker
Alright then, my final update for the day is up.
Does that sound better ? :D
machol30

LeMoonwalker wrote:

Alright then, my final update for the day is up.
Does that sound better ? :D
Yes, a lot better. ;) This needs to get ranked soon.
Rolled
hard:
25:08 - further.
34:67 - This combo is ugly. Equal spacing? :/
43:08 - Ugly as well. Make the last 5 notes equidistant.
58:68 - This could use some equal spacing as well, a bit iffy. (2-5)
1:30:79 - Bad spacing, perhaps you could move it up with the 4?
1:40:68 - Same as above
2:10:68 - Fix this up. Move the quarter beats closer.

This map is pretty confusing overall. Failed it my first time simply because I did not know when to click what. The spacing between quarter beats and half beats change roles often in this map. Stick with one distance divisor and enforce it throughout the map, with little exceptions.

Normal and easy I don't have a problem with, except try to steer away from the boxy patterns next time. Can get monotonous.

Going to remove bubble until hard is fixed. Starred.
Topic Starter
LeMoonwalker
Uploaded a version with more varied patterns in easy and normal, also fixed the things you said (or at least tried !) in Hard. ;)
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