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Saori Kiuji - blast of wind

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levesterz
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, 18 November, 2010 at 8:15:20 AM

Artist: Saori Kiuji
Title: Blast of Wind
Source: Kaze no Stigma
Tags: Stigma of the Wind samiljul
BPM: 135
Filesize: 7038kb
Play Time: 04:16
Difficulties Available:
  1. 31's Taiko (4.83 stars, 1260 notes)
  2. Easy (0.98 stars, 134 notes)
  3. Hard (4.63 stars, 435 notes)
  4. Normal (3.28 stars, 231 notes)
Download: Saori Kiuji - Blast of Wind
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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thx for modding and the suggestion^^
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update:
chg in source
chg normal to easy
major beat arrangement fix
reduce hit sound volume
added normal diff
change bitrate of the map
retweaking sound volume
added samiljul taiko diff
added custom hit sound
changed offset
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please redownload agan( if you downloaded before 8/11/2010)
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current progress:
still adding hit sound in (also removing some offbeat note and remake slider)

if anything still need too improve tell me and thanks for the help
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Thanks samiljul for the taiko diff
Garven
Just a few general pointers here.

BPM: 135.00
Offset: 9,556

Please get a higher-quality background. Find something around 800x600, max 1024x768.

You have two OSB files in the folder (Probably from renaming the artist) delete both and do a full resubmission unless you plan on doing a storyboard for this map set.

Check my user page for some general tips on mapping. Try to make sure your notes go with the music and have a distance from each other that corresponds with the amount of time between the notes.

You should trim the size of your MP3 to avoid wasted space if you don't plan on mapping all the way through. Though just listening to the song, the MP3 is kind of low quality. It's over-boosted for volume and peaks too much. If you can, try and find a new MP3 and I can crop and retime it for you if you wish.

Call me back for a recheck when you get some things going on this and I'll see what I can do to help you out!
Garven
Sounds like you got a new MP3, so there's a new offset: 5,860

Don't forget to resnap all your notes and stuff and double check everything so it's the same.

I'd recommend that you change the beat snap divisor (bar in the upper right corner) to 1/4 or 1/2 as you're mapping the easier difficulties. The tight snap tends to make things slightly off at times.

On your hard, 3.0 slider velocity seems a bit much - especially for how you have things mapped so far. I'd tone it down to something around 1.8-2.0. Also set your beat snap divisor to 1/4 here. 1/6 is off for the rhythm of this song.

Fix things up again after the offset change and call me back again and I can get into the mapping a bit more. :D

Don't kudosu this please.
Topic Starter
levesterz
thx for the new offset suggestion . Now it fell much better and sync. ^^
Zetsubou Sensei
Hey. (I will make an Insane diff)...Let me mod the other 2 diff that you have.

- Source should be "Kage no Stigma" not anime
- Title should be capitalized "Blast of Wind"
- Go into "Audio" in the "Song Setup" and put "Sample Volume" all the way up
- Make sure to use Distance Snap throughout your maps!

[Normal]
^ Change this to Easy
Circle Size: -1 (use large circles for easy)
HP Drain Rate: -4
Approach Rate: -3
Overall Difficulty: -3
Use 1/2 Beat Snap Divsor and fix all of the notes up so that they sound better...Alot of work to do on your maps =P

[Hard]
Circle Size: -1
This Diff is horrid...Lol...Sliders look ugly, and most of the notes dont go on beat or even the lyrics.
(Open AIMOD in the "File" drop-down menu and see all your spacing,snapping, and other errors that need to be fixed)

With that said...I will make a diff...Give me some time...But I'd like to see you fix up your map alot...If you need anything (and if im online in-game) feel free to chat with me about anything. =D

OFF YOU GO! =3
Topic Starter
levesterz
thank for letting me now my map is off beat. it sound fine for normal speed for me.
i know that the slider on hard is well very horrible. i will do full reedit on it again(once i get my map as accurate as possible with rythm)
thanks ^^(will kudosu you after i re post my map)
i felt that 1/2 snap divisor is a little off the tune in some place so i will stick on 1/4 divisor .
Garven

levesterz wrote:

thank for letting me now my map is off beat. it sound fine for normal speed for me.
i know that the slider on hard is well very horrible. i will do full reedit on it again(once i get my map as accurate as possible with rythm)
thanks ^^(will kudosu you after i re post my map)
i felt that 1/2 snap divisor is a little off the tune in some place so i will stick on 1/4 divisor .
The problem is, just glancing at the easy, you end up with a lot of slightly off-beat sliders.
Just look at your first two on easy.

Compare the rhythm you have now, then set up your sliders' rhythm to be like this:



You're obviously going with the lyrics here, so try to line up the beats with those lyrics. Maybe you'll want to lower the volume of the hit sounds a little bit so you can hear the song against the beats you place easier. To do this, hit F6 to open up the timing section window.


Under the Audio tab, there's a volume bar. Adjust that so the sounds aren't so loud compared to the song.

Also, your choice of Kiai is a little odd to me. Usually it's used for the chorus of the song (00:39:637 - to 01:18:304 - would be a good choice)

Try combing through your difficulties and get beats lined up with what you're following in the music. Please be very thorough. If you still have problems hearing these, let me know and I can point out a bunch of them for you.

Peeking at hard mode now...

Go to the timing menu at the top next to Design and Web, click on Resnap all notes. Comb through your difficulty to make sure everything is on the correct rhythm like you did in easy.

00:07:526 (3) - Sliders where the beginning and end is ambiguous are not rankable as the player won't know which direction to start. Set up them so you can tell which is the start and the end.

00:24:389 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I'd refrain from making up your own rhythms in the middle of nothing in the song. It's quite unintuitive and tends to break out of the feel of the song. As tempting as it is to do this to make the map "harder", try to aim for "fun" instead. :3

Keep working at it!
Topic Starter
levesterz
i normally turn off the audio sound when editing but turn up the volume when i repost my map (if i remember to turn up) the 0.24 part is piano part if heard carefully but i guess i will omit it out .

thanks and i will remember making it fun not harder ( its very tempting to make it harder on hard map )
IceBeam
[Easy]
Reduce volume,it's too rough for my ears.
Also,add more hitsounds,not just few finishes which don't perfectly fit,moreover.
Reduce Slider tick for 2 ticks,it's too much,sounds annoying.
Don't ever use 2x BPM Timing Sections and easy,remove them.
My suggestion is to remap it,cause it's messed at the moment.The rest of notes are placed at blue tick,and almost everything is out(I wonder if it's because of chaged BPM/Offset and you haven't snapped your notes.)
As I see you're following lyrics mostly.
Use only white and red ticks for that(I'm pretty sure using blue isn't neccesary).
Don't overfill your map with notes,better use more sliders to fill the lyrics and use Distance Snap,cause atm spacing makes no sense to me sometimes.
02:20:415 (x) - This break is too long,you mustn't map the whole song,especially in Easy,so you may finish your map here.

[Hard]
Oh wow,so tiny objects.
Again,the rest of notes are in blue ticks,it's not right,you should use white and red mostly.
Nothing to mod at the moment,sorry.

You need to work much harder on it,use simple rhyms in Easy,placing notes on white ticks mostly.
Hard is raw as well.
Use those tips and suggestions from modders and try to remap it.

Good luck to you~
Topic Starter
levesterz
i did resnap a few time before start when setting the new bmp and offset (my comp crash a few time too along the way) and also resnap it before i repost back. i also rechecking for a few time and it sound good for me .its ok if its nothing too mod( at the moment) cause i nid to make sure my note is really going with the lyrics here( before adding hit sound on it) and sometime i miss some off beat one. i guess i will remap the whole dificulty once again ^^.
thank you for the suggestion and the star
wmfchris
hitsound seems to be too loud.

[hard]
0:19:859 (4) up 1 grid
0:46:526 (4) up 1 grid
0:52:971 (1) down 1 or 2 grid
0:54:748 (1) right 1 grid
1:00:082 (1,2,3,4) try to make a stright line?
1:04:304 (3) left 1 grid?
1:07:637 (3) 1/4 beat backward
1:40:082 (2,3,4,5,6) unevne spacing
2:24:082 (2,3,4) spacing not enough? though fine for me~
2:27:637 (3) right 1 grid or 2
2:29:637 (4) right 1 grid

The spacing is not so consistent (spacing multiple varying from 0.45x to 0.55x), acceptable for me but you can still try to resnap some notes.

That's somehow old style but it's nice <3
star~
Topic Starter
levesterz
fix and thanks for the star ^^
Firo Prochainezo
Easy:
Don't put hiticircles and sliders randomly, try to put some style to it.
00:18:304 to 00:39:415: Hitnormal sounds bad here. Put hitsoft?
00:38:748: Remove the slider (1) and place a new one when the KIAI starts or move the KIAI timing to 00:38:748.
00:53:859: Put another slider?

Hard:
Don't put hiticircles and sliders randomly, try to put some style to it.
00:18:304: Hitnormal sounds bad here. Put hitsoft?
00:38:748: (1,2,) are useless here. Remove them.
01:15:193: Remove (5) slider and start the spinner here.

If you're not going to map the rest, then cut the mp3.
Charles445
Easy
01:13:971 Move this to 01:14:082
01:14:415 Move this to 01:14:304
01:14:748 Move this to 01:14:637
Turn Distance snap on and redo the map's spacing.

Hard
00:02:526 Move this to 00:02:304
00:30:637 Move this to 00:30:526
00:44:193 Move this to 00:44:082
01:04:082 Move this to 01:03:971
01:06:193 Move this to 01:06:082
02:24:082 Move this to 2:23:971
02:30:082 Move this to 02:29:859
02:30:748 Move this to 02:30:526
02:44:971 Move this to 02:44:748
03:08:859 Move this to 03:08:748
03:10:304 Move this to 03:10:193
03:34:917 Move this to 03:35:082
03:45:859 Move this to 03:45:748
03:47:637 Move this to 03:47:526
03:49:415 Move this to 03:49:304
Turn Distance snap on and redo the map's spacing.

Good luck!
Topic Starter
levesterz
fix ^^
Cuuuuri
(ノ゚ω゚)ノHihi
[Hard]
I think as follows:
00:07:748 (1) - start at 00:07:637 - better. [end at 00:08:971 or 00:09:193]
00:30:637 (4) - on 00:30:526 or 00:30:748
00:49:304 (1) - o.O
01:22:304 (1) - end at 01:22:971
01:25:859 (5) - ^01:26:748
Topic Starter
levesterz
fix and thanks for the star
Garven
Do you really plan on having the easy that short?

Feels kind of cheap, to me.


Edit: Ah, kk. Just assumed since it was in Pending that it's done. You should move this back to WIP forums then. :P

But anyway:

[Easy]
This is looking a lot better than before: good job!
Now then:
I really think slider tick rate 2 is too much. At least lower it to 1 (F3 menu).
00:21:415 (1,2) - In easies, I really recommend that you avoid faster rhythms like this and only used them very sparingly since it may be a bit harder to figure out for newer players. Try using a simpler rhythm, such as this?

00:22:971 (1) - This spinner feels really weird for this part of the song. Another thing is that you allow so little time for the player to recover from the spinner until the next note. For a softer song like this beginning part, I'd recommend you give around 3-4 beats (white ticks) for recovery time.
00:25:859 (1,2) - These aren't really going with anything - move them forward to the red ticks.
00:28:748 (1) - This sounds a lot better like this:

00:32:082 (1) - I'd feel that a better emphasis with the song
00:39:637 - Starting kiai here would feel much better.
00:39:415 (2) - Extend this slider to the white tick. Though the note right after the spinner is really soon.
There's still a lot of weird rhythm stuff going on here. Try combing through this difficulty and see what you can do to may simplify some rhythms, and make spinner recovery times better (and maybe make more intuitive feeling spinner placements)
And please map more than just one minute. >_>

[Hard]
There are a lot of prettiness issues going on in here. I'm mostly talking about the overlaps that you create with sliders.
00:03:860 (2,3) - Like these, etc.
00:25:415 (1) - another thing you may want to watch out for is pushing your sliders way into the HP bar like this. It's still rankable, but it really mars polish from the map.
I'd really like to see a higher distance snap than .5. Causes a lot of the overlap issues as well. It'll give you better opportunities to make better looking combo sets too.
00:29:859 (2,3,4) - It's strange that you follow the lyrics up until the very last note, then you decide to not play then end of the vocal phrase and switch instead to the strings in the background. Try to follow through with the instrument that you're mapping to with each phrase. This will lead to more intuitive-playing maps.

Anyway, just more general commentary on the map design. Things are looking a lot better though: keep it up!
Topic Starter
levesterz
i am not planning for making my easy that short( post it that short because of some error occur whille i am editing the easy map causing osu client to crash everytime and did not save my data. but since i i figured out what problem it was so i continue mapping it again).

thanks for all the suggeston
Verdisphena
Mai mod


Hard :


Approach Rate +2

00:02:526 (1) - The slider begins in 00:02:304
00:03:415 (1) - Delete new combo
00:03:637 (3) - Add a note
00:03:860 (4) - Slider begins in 00:03:860 and finish in 00:05:637
00:14:304 (4) - Add a note?
00:14:526 (5) - ^
00:30:193 (3) - The slider finish in 00:30:526
00:32:526 (3) - The slider finish in 00:32:971
00:34:082 (6) - The slider finish in 00:34:971
01:07:859 (1) - The spinner finish in 01:09:859 (?)
01:15:193 (1) - The spinner finish in 01:18:304
01:24:082 (6) - The slider finish in 01:24:748
01:24:971 (7) - The slider finish in 01:25:637
01:34:526 (4) - That does not match the music
01:38:082 (4) - Please, fix this slider
01:41:193 (7) - Add a note
01:44:415 (5) - Move to 01:44:526
02:03:971 (5) - Move to 02:04:082
03:15:859 (4) - The slider finish in 03:16:515
03:22:971 (4) - The slider finish in 03:23:637
03:42:526 (2) - Replaces this slider whit a note or a spinner orz...
03:45:193 (1) - Add a note
03:53:415 (1) - Delete the new combo and the repetition of the slider is in 03:54:082, no in 03:53:971


Easy :

So short?

00:28:748 (1) - The slider begins in 00:28:971
00:30:304 (3) - The slider begins in 00:30:082
00:32:082 (1) - The slider finish in 00:34:304
00:34:304 (2) - Delete the note
00:35:859 (1) - Delete new combo and the slider finish in 00:36:526
00:39:193 (1) - The slider begins in 00:39:637
00:43:859 (2) - The slider finish in 00:44:526
01:15:193 (1) - The spinner finish in 01:18:748
01:38:193 (3) - Move this to 01:38:304
01:39:859 (1) - The slider begins in 01:40:082 and finish in 01:40:971
01:40:971 (2) - Delete the note
01:41:859 (3) - Add a note
02:08:526 (3) - ^

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