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Less Experimental Mafia 2 (Mafia Win!)

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LadySuburu
If you want in as a replacement, PM me.

Because Host's poison is going slow, I'm making the thread for this now. (Also I just decided on all the roles so I figure why not.)

This is an experimental game, you may find some balance issues, and other problems. Submit any ideas to me, and I will consider them. If they're important enough, I may implement them right away. Also, I feel like explaining less this time around. Do research if you have questions about roles or anything. Previous mafia games may also answer your questions.

If you want to play in future games, be active. If you are inactive for too long without notice, you will be BANNED from future games until my rage subsides. That'll likely only be one game for the first infraction, but take heed, because I will take into account previous games you've played before this.



New note: As people seem to be confused about this. If a player has a majority of people voting him at any point, the day ends with a lynch automatically.

Note 2: Roleplaying makes it a bit harder in mafia, please don't. I will roleplay the day's lynching for you. If you have a specific death in mind for when you're lynched, PM me. I might go with it.

Note 3: Please take this game seriously. It's hard for it to be played properly if you don't.

Final Note: http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page this wiki is from a typo dedicated to hosting mafia games. If you have questions about mafia play, the wiki here can help.

Final Note 2: There are no "items" or simmilar purposes. There are no notes you can send after death. If your role doesn't say it's an ability that you can do, you can't do it. Other than role abilities, you can talk in this thread and you can vote.

If you want to play, post here with /in. We'll start when we have 9. Please read the rules.

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This is less difficult than you remember....

Attempt 4

Attempt 3 was good, let's make this one great!

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Status: Somewhere between signups and over.

.::] Alive [::.
3. Rantai
7. Kiddo-Kun


Replacement Spots - Will be used if needed.
A. Rolled
B. animask
C. 0_o
D.

.::] Dead [::.
9. Swiftwolf Yellowtail - Nurse (Lynched D1)
8. Haneii - Doctor (Killed N1)
5. Quaraezha - Relay Mason (Lynched D2)
4. NoHItter - One-shot Executioner (Killed D2)
6. DxS - Cop - (Lynched D3.)
1. Lilac - Psychiatrist (Endgamed.)
2. pieguy1372 - Deputy (Endgamed.)

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.::] The Setup [::.


It consists of any combination of roles the mod chooses, but the mod is attempting to make it more balanced.

Every player in this game will have received a Role PM. They will look like something.

All roles are either on the mafiascum wiki, or mentioned in the previous games. If for some reason your role isn't, consider yourself lucky or blind, and then PM me for an explanation.

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.::] Rules [::.
General

1. Unless otherwise stated in your Role PM, this game takes place in this thread only - do not discuss it anywhere else. Doing so will get you modkilled or immediately replaced, depending on the severity of the offence. (This is important for mafia games.)

2. Do not quote any PM, part or whole, you receive from the Mod. This includes fake or erroneous quoting. Breaking this rule will get you modkilled. However, you may claim any role you please, and explain the powers in any way you please.

3. If you believe I've made an error as the mod, send me a PM. Please do not post about such things in the thread. If you have anything else you need me to read or address, post something like this - "Mod: You're the best."

4. A player who is modkilled will lose the game, regardless of whether their team mates eventually win.

5. Omitted.

Voting, Lynching and Deaths

6. Any voting action must be bolded - Vote: destructor, etc.

7. You may vote to end the day without a lynch by voting No Lynch.

8. Voting is back to the normal system.

9. A lynch occurs when a player has an absolute majority of votes on them.

10. At deadline, the player with the most votes is lynched. In the event of a draw, the player who had the most votes before being tied will be lynched.

11. Once a lynch occurs the Day is considered to be over. Please, please, PLEASE do not post again until the next Day begins, especially if you are the player who was just lynched. (I accept talking beforehand as long as I haven't posted the lynch scene yet.)

12. On death, a player's role will be revealed.

13. A modkill may end the day, depending on the host's decision.

14. Once a player is dead, they cannot contribute any more to the game. They are not to post anything. (I'll accept a simple Bah! or Go Town!)

Activity

15. Please treat this game as a commitment.

16. Day one has a length of 5 IRL days. Each consecutive day's deadline is cut short by a day, unless a No Lynch is called for or the host sees signifigant activity. There are only a few reasons why I would extend one (such as replacing players).

17. If a player has not posted in 24 hours, I will prod them if requested to do so. That is, it's up to you to ask me to prod a certain player.

17b. Don't make me prod someone. As in, post once every 24 hours. If you have nothing to say, say "I'm here." I will be much more strict with prods than normal.

18. Prods must be responded to in thread.

19. A player who doesn't respond to their prod will be replaced or modkilled.

20. If you are going to be unable to post for over 24 hours, leave me a note in thread. As long as I am personally given notice, you will not be prodded.

Conduct

21. Be courteous and respectful to your fellow players.

22. Blatantly antisocial and offensive behaviour or personal attacks will be grounds for replacement at my own discretion.

23. Finally, Mafia is for fun, so enjoy yourself.

24. If you've noticed I've missed something, feel free to ask me about it.

25. I reserve the right to change these rules.
Lilac
I am more than sure I will be able to participate in this one.

/in
pieguyn
/in >.<
Rantai
Hi.

/in :D
Rolled
Replacement pls
NoHitter
/in
Quaraezha
/in
DeathxShinigami
In

Was gonna snipe the last slot if I wanted to play but I made up my mind for once ;p
Kiddo-Kun
/in
Sleep Powder
/replacement
0_o
I'll replace as well.

Also, bump.
Haneii
/in
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
You know what, why not. I'm seeing too many of the same people in these games.

/in
DeathxShinigami
I shall enjoy this... </3
Rantai
And here we go, confirm.
Lilac
Are we allowed to confirm?

Alright then.
pieguyn
Confirm~
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Confirmed.
NoHitter
confirm
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
All but two have confirmed.

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch. Deadline is in 6 days.
Haneii
ohayo o/
NoHitter
Vote: MarioBros777
You changed your name >:(

Incidentally guys, RQS time:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?

My answers:
1) Any role/faction with communication with others. (Masons/Scum) It's fun to discuss tactics with someone else.
2) Yes if they are lurking or purpose, or if we have nothing else to go on.
3) No. Meta changes per game. (Some people though have consistent meta.)
4) Once per two days at the very least.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
1) I'd rather not answer that question.
2) No. I'd rather prod them than lynch them.
3) I believe in anything that's fair.
4) At least once a day.
Rantai

NoHItter wrote:

1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?

My answers:
1) Any role as an independent faction. I like the freedom you get being alone, your choices won't affect anyone else on your team.
2) Only if I can't see any reason to suspect another person
3) No. I believe every game is separate, people could change play styles and the like but that won't mean that they are scummy or otherwise. I prefer to work on a game-by-game basis.
4) Around once a day, only inhibited if uni work catches up on me.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Rantai wrote:

3) No. I believe every game is separate, people could change play styles and the like but that won't mean that they are scummy or otherwise. I prefer to work on a game-by-game basis.
You do have a point, there. But be aware that they may not even make any changes to their play styles.
Rantai
Of course, they might not change but in that case they could use that as an excuse. For example, a mafia could say they always have neutral opinions, if meta was to be believed they could fly under the radar and use it as an excuse to not vote other mafia members.

That's why I like to take each one in isolation.
Lilac

NoHItter wrote:

Vote: MarioBros777
You changed your name >:(
Deal with it. I like it.

1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?

1) I guess I'll say it now. I really like being Town, it's relaxing and I don't really like lieing to begin with. It's fun really.
2) 50-50. There's often a chance that said lurker might actually be Mafia but in terms of stating in general, I'm really against it.
3) No. Actually, hold that thought. Possibly. If it was answering questions like these, then I would use previous answers as a scumhunting tool, other than that, nothing really.
4) As often as I can, which is whenever I don't get my modem taken off me or when I don't have school since they block osu.ppy.sh
pieguyn
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?

Town, because when I'm mafia I suck at hiding it (see last game I was in)

2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?

That depends on whether the active people are suspicious. If they aren't, I'm for it because it's more likely the lurkers are mafia.

3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?

Generally it can be used nicely, but some people do strange things thus making it not work. :?

4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?

Whenever I have something to say~ :)
NoHitter

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

1) I'd rather not answer that question.
And why don't you want to answer that question?
Quaraezha
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
I dislike being Mafia, trying the hardest to blend in with town is too difficult for me.
I dislike being anti-town/neutral, same reason as above, especially if the winning condition is last man standing.
I like being pro-town power roles, it keeps me motivated to be active more.
Vanilla Townie... meh.


2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
I'm not so sure anymore.

3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
It should be useful, but lately, the mete-as-scumhunting has really proven itself wrong in the other mafia games.
Works sometimes, but rarely.


4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
I'll try to do so everynight in my timezone.
And whenever I get a hold of a PC
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
I don't want to answer that question because I haven't played enough Mafia games. I do admit that I have played a few, but even I don't know what is the "safest" way to go.
NoHitter

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

I don't want to answer that question because I haven't played enough Mafia games. I do admit that I have played a few, but even I don't know what is the "safest" way to go.
Why are you so concerned about the "safest" way to go?
It's a RQS question. Nothing more.
You refusing to answer the questions comes as suspicious especially after you pointed out you wanted to be "safe".
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Maybe I'm trying to be suspicious. You don't know of I am or not.
Quaraezha
Reverse Psychology? Please don't.

vote: Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Heh. Psychology is sometimes hard to understand. :3

Also, voting off someone that seems to be suspicious may be a bad idea.
Lilac
However, it's the only trail we've got. Though I'm kinda disappointed at NoHItter's quick jump on that. Some people don't have to answer questions if they don't want to.
NoHitter
Unvote
Vote: Swiftwolf


1) Refused to answer the RQS question about favorite role/faction because he wants to be "safe".
2) Uses WIFOM this early. "Maybe I'm trying to be suspicious. You don't know of I am or not."
3) Proposes a very illogical idea. "Also, voting off someone that seems to be suspicious may be a bad idea."

Definitely suspicious.
NoHitter
Ninja'd by Lilac MB777

Information is generally good for town.
Refusing to answer a question as simple as that = refusing to contribute information. (It's not like I was asking what his role was.)
I would understand if his reason was: "IDK about that as I've played little."
But he specifically said that he wanted to be "safe".
That's the part that pings me.
Haneii

NoHItter wrote:

1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
1) I value information so probably roles like mason, stalker, cop, mafia etc...
2) Depends heavily on the situation + I haven't played many mafia games/been put into a position where I felt like voting a lurker. As of right now, my answer is no. I don't think I'd be up to lynching lurkers
3)I don't think it's such a good idea, borderline pointless. However I'm still new to this game so I might be a bit bias (ie: I have yet to see it help)
4)Hopefully once a day
Haneii

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Also, voting off someone that seems to be suspicious may be a bad idea.

lol, what? XD
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

NoHItter wrote:

Unvote
Vote: Swiftwolf


1) Refused to answer the RQS question about favorite role/faction because he wants to be "safe".
2) Uses WIFOM this early. "Maybe I'm trying to be suspicious. You don't know of I am or not."
3) Proposes a very illogical idea. "Also, voting off someone that seems to be suspicious may be a bad idea."

Definitely suspicious.
You don't know who I am. Then again, I don't know who you are. So it may not be the best idea to vote someone that's new to the osu! Mafia games.

Also, to answer your question, I don't really care what role I'm in. Usually, it ends up getting me killed. Do I care? No. Mistakes happen.

If you want to lynch me, go ahead. You won't be gaining anything from it, though.
Quaraezha
It's these kinds of situations when the lynched really was townie.
But then again, we've never played with Swiftwolf before.

So I'll just
unvote for now.
NoHitter
Now your using the Newbie Card even if you admit to have played some games already?
Then you Appeal to Emotion as an attempt to convince the lynch away from you?

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

You don't know who I am. Then again, I don't know who you are. So it may not be the best idea to vote someone that's new to the osu! Mafia games.
I really don't care if you're new to osu! Mafia games. You're acting suspiciously. That's enough of a reason to lynch you. I would understand if you claimed that this was your first game, but you already said it isn't.

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Also, to answer your question, I don't really care what role I'm in. Usually, it ends up getting me killed. Do I care? No. Mistakes happen.
Why the defeatist attitude? If you really don't want to be lynched then try to do so - defend yourself. Don't just go around telling people that lynching you would be useless without a reason behind it. It makes it look worse that way.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
I don't really care if I get lynched on the first day.

NoHItter wrote:

Appeal to Emotion
I'm not trying to convince anyone to unvote and/or vote someone else. All I'm trying to do is simply be what I am and survive as a person in this place filled with paranoia.
Haneii
[quote="Swiftwolf Yellowtail"
If you want to lynch me, go ahead. You won't be gaining anything from it, though.[/quote]

Why so apathetic? Unless you're mafia or some thirdparty/alt win condition besides town, I don't understand why you'd say something like this. This is probably your first mafia game in a while, so I find it hard to believe that you'd give up on the game so soon (unless you really are mafia and you can't think of anyway to get out of this). Understand this: if you are town you are NOT helping when you allow yourself to be lynched. It might be inevitable/seem hopeless but you should try to fight against a mislynch vs catalyzing one

Right now you're coming off as a really bad mafia (failing to avoid looking suspicious)...or a bad town (actions are harmful to town)
Haneii
Fail quote orz

Also

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

All I'm trying to do is simply be what I am and survive as a person in this place filled with paranoia.
So you're a survivor?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Haneii wrote:

This is probably your first mafia game in a while, so I find it hard to believe that you'd give up on the game so soon
Actually, it is my first in a while. Couple years, actually.

So you're a survivor?
No. Just someone that can't get a grasp at this.
Rantai
Flipping back through the pages before I head to bed...

Yeah I think I'll head to bed and make sense of this tomorrow. (seriously, what?)
Kiddo-Kun
Mornin' people.

1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
Independent. Being anything else is to much pressure.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Hmmm, I guess not.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
I think it's fair.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
I'll try to post when I can

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Maybe I'm trying to be suspicious. You don't know of I am or not.
This is puzzling. Why would you try to be suspicious?

Vote: Swiftwolf Yellowtail

You're the only one who seems fishy.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Kiddo-Kun wrote:

This is puzzling. Why would you try to be suspicious?
...Because it's part of the game? I dunno, I just like to see how you people would react to my posts. Apparently, you seem to think I'm the enemy. Which, if you think is right, it will send you towards victory. Maybe. I could just be a townie and you would just be helping the mafia, or I could be the mafia and you'd be helping yourselves.

Personally, I think there's something suspicious about NH and their sudden questioning of the people playing.

Vote: NoHItter


also, I loltypo'd a while back. I meant to say "if I am or not" not "of I am or not". XD
DeathxShinigami
I just found our animask of the game <3

Vote: Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Are you trying to make any sense or do you just like confusing the shit out of people?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I just found our animask of the game <3
...Is that supposed to be a good thing? Because if you're talking about me, you're making a bad connection.
Are you trying to make any sense or do you just like confusing the shit out of people?
I'm trying to make some sort of sense... funny how I haven't seen anyone else say "What are you saying?" but you.
Lilac
I'm reading more when I come back from school but I am more than sure either NoHItter or Yellowtail is Mafia. This is going with past experience and generally my gut feeling.

FoSing both of you.
Rantai
Whew less dead sleepy now.

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

...Because it's part of the game?
Ok. Being suspicious on purpose generally is only useful to someone who wants to be lynched as far as I can tell, if you were either a townie or mafia being this blatantly confusing and suspicious makes no sense at all.

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

I dunno, I just like to see how you people would react to my posts.
What were you hoping? The only reaction you're going to get is mass confusion and finger pointing at yourself.

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Apparently, you seem to think I'm the enemy. Which, if you think is right, it will send you towards victory. Maybe. I could just be a townie and you would just be helping the mafia, or I could be the mafia and you'd be helping yourselves.
Thanks for stating the obvious. I find it interesting you didn't mention the possibility of being independent. For all I know this could be a ploy to draw attention away from that fact.

Possible jester? Certainly seems possible to me.
Lilac
He's not a jester.

Look, I'm agreeing with what Rolled said in a previous game about not being suspicious as a town because you're not benefiting them nor are you benefiting yourself.

I'm not sure if you've noticed, but stating WIFOM this early in the game doesn't help you nor does it help anyone. It gives townies a false sense of lynching and the mafia, a free kill. Providing that you are town of course.
Rantai

Lilac wrote:

He's not a jester.
While my guess works on basically nothing, it's no guarantee I'm wrong.

Unless you know something about the role setup.
Lilac
It just doesn't feel right.

I am more than 80% sure that his lynch wouldn't result in the game finishing right now with a Jester win.

If anyone objects, please feel free to do so.
Quaraezha
I'm pretty sure there's no jester in the game, but that's just a hunch.
If Swiftwolf continues to play with us like this, why bother having him around


vote: Swiftwolf
Haneii
That's already 4 votes Swiftwolf :/ - one more and you're gone ~

Is there any reason why we shouldn't lynch you, Swift?



Razha, why so switchhappy? :P
pieguyn
I agree that Swiftwolf is suspicious, but I have a gut feeling that he's not mafia.

Vote: Rantai. I have a gut feeling he's mafia. (I can't explain it, it's just a gut feeling >.<)

I think it's a bit suspicious that Lilac jumped up and said "he's not a Jester" instead of "I don't think he's a Jester", however I'm not quite sure what to think about him yet. :?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Now that I've had a nice IRL sleep...

Quaraezha: I agree with Haneii. Why so switchhappy? You're becoming as suspicious as NoHItter. I'm going to keep my vote on NH, but put my FoS on you if you seem to be more suspicious than him.

Haneii: There's no reason why you should lynch me other than the fact that I'm suspicious. I understand my posts (especially the first one) was weird, but if I get lynched, okay, cool. +1 to some side. I honestly don't care what happens now. If the town wins, great. If not, oh well.

Also, from what I've seen in the previous games, the most active people are usually the mafia. Now, this is a good and bad thing, because I'm one of the most active. Just throwing that out there to those that have any suspicions of any player including myself.

Also,

Lilac wrote:

I'm reading more when I come back from school but I am more than sure either NoHItter or Yellowtail is Mafia.
It's quite possible that both of us are mafia. Sure, it'd be a big loss if we voted ourselves off, but to make our suspicions a bit lower, we could simply vote each other off. I've done that before. I applaud you for catching on to that tactic.


I will have you people know that mistakes do happen and what I did was a serious failure. By the looks of it, D1 is about to end faster than expected, but losses are to be made sooner or later, and sometimes, it's better to make those losses sooner than necessary.
Quaraezha
I was convinced that you were suspicious
And then I wasn't.
and then I was again.
Haneii

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

There's no reason why you should lynch me other than the fact that I'm suspicious. I understand my posts (especially the first one) was weird, but if I get lynched, okay, cool. +1 to some side. I honestly don't care what happens now. If the town wins, great. If not, oh well.
......

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

By the looks of it, D1 is about to end faster than expected, but losses are to be made sooner or later, and sometimes, it's better to make those losses sooner than necessary.

You say you're acting suspicious on purpose + sometimes it's better to make our losses sooner than...um...necessary.

Frankly, I am now scared to vote for you since it's something you obviously want ;~;
Haneii
I'll just be straightforward with you, Swift. ARE YOU ALIGNED WITH TOWN?
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Yes
Haneii
Vote: Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Double standard. Go figure.
Lilac
Well, that's it then.

Gute Nacht.
NoHitter
*facepalm*
Why the hammer when we still had...
We could have asked Swift to claim first.

FoS: Haneii
Haneii

Lilac wrote:

Well, that's it then.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
..I find it weird how the day hasn't ended yet. There's 5 votes against me, and the day isn't over.
Lilac
The day isn't over because LS wasn't here.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Lilac wrote:

The day isn't over because LS wasn't here.
Correct.

Swiftwolf Yellowtail - Nurse - Lynched D1.

It is now Night 1. Please send all Night actions within 24 hours.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Haneii - Doctor - Killed N1

It is now day 2. With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
NoHitter
I don't seem to get the Nightkill choice.
Haneii was the one who seemed most suspicious as she quick-hammered Swift.
After Haneii, I would prefer a MB lynch on the count of the odd phrasing of what he said.

Lilac wrote:

Well, that's it then.

Gute Nacht.

That reaction is something I wouldn't expect from town to say.

Bad luck is that we lost our Nurse and Doctor on the first phase.

I would like to hear more from pieguy and Kiddo-kun too. They just hopped in and voted.
They didn't participate in the discussion whatsoever.
pieguyn
I don't get the NK choice either, it seems weird to me. Oh well~

Anyway, it might not seem like I was discussing much, but at that point I actually brought everything I had to the table. At that point in day 1, it is too early for me to figure anything out objectively, so I just voted based off a gut instinct.

At this point, I presume there are either 2 or 3 mafia. 3 mafia seems a bit much for a 9-person game IMO, so I'll go with 2 mafia, meaning we have one more free lynch before LYLO.

I'm not sure I like how NoHItter is trying to make Lilac look suspicious, when Lilac previously FoS'ed him. This might not really be valid, but I've got a gut feeling NoHitter is mafia, so I vote NoHItter
Kiddo-Kun
I know I wasn't discussing much but I felt no need to deal with someone like Swiftwolf Yellowtail being retarded.
Don't worry, I'll try to participate more from now on.

Also if anyone, I think DeathxShinigami should be the one to speak up.

@pieguy: I think you shouldn't vote based on your gut feelings. Sure you can have them, but wait until you have something to back it up.
Lilac
I said before if Yellowtail was lynched and turned up town, that NoHItter is definitely Mafia.

Also, whoever NK'd Haneii probably did the stupidest thing ever.
NoHitter
Vote: MB777 (Lilac)
for reasons said earlier.

Could you also explain your reasoning behind if one flips town, the other must be scum.
Only scum would want to label people like that.
Rantai
Hmm I honestly will not understand what was going through Swift's mind... better still the NK choice.

Anyway, looking at what's in front of us I'm not liking how Lilac is treating everything in absolutes or nonchalantly. I get the feeling he either knows something or is trying to stay as neutral as possible.
Rantai
NoHItter you ninja.
Lilac
It's just things I've seen in the past. Usually the one person who starts the bandwagon is mostly likely the one to be Mafia.

NoHItter wrote:

Only scum would want to label people like that.
Yeah...No. I'm sorry where did you get that from? Considering that I also didn't know where you got the suspicion that...

NoHItter wrote:

Haneii was the one who seemed most suspicious as she quick-hammered Swift.
NoHitter
Wrong. You set up a dichotomy.
"If Swift is town, Hitter is scum, or vice versa."

I merely said "Haneii is suspicious because she hammered."

Setting up a dichotomy is wrong as you basically limit it to two choices - basically a False Dilemma. What I want to know is how you arrived at that dichotomy conclusion.

Lilac wrote:

It's just things I've seen in the past. Usually the one person who starts the bandwagon is mostly likely the one to be Mafia.
That is not always true. There are many cases where town vote first.
That's exactly why I disagree on the use of meta from other games. What happens in one game doesn't necessarily apply in other games.
Lilac
Please read above.

Look, I'm saving you from another terrible decision.

You started voting for Yellowtail, you were wrong.

You FoS'd Haneii, you were wrong.

I don't think you're Mafia anymore, but I am still keeping my eye on you.
NoHitter
Well then, who do you think is scum now?
Theoretically with 9 players, there would be 2.
Lilac
I wish people would talk more.
Rantai

Lilac wrote:

I wish people would talk more.
This, especially Q and DxS.
Rantai
Oh more double posting, because I'm cool like that.

@Lilac

Interesting defense. We were basically all wrong about Swift's alignment and let's face it, Haneii's hammer was extremely suspicious.

You even agreed indirectly

Lilac wrote:

Also, whoever NK'd Haneii probably did the stupidest thing ever.
As I see it right now you've dodged his question about your 'Either Swift or NoHItter is mafia", backflipped saying you're not suspecting him of being mafia anymore while blaming him for something all of us were thinking (as far as I can tell).

Not convinced yet but I'm not liking it at all.
Lilac
That's fine, I knew it was probably a selfish thing to blame all of it on NoHItter. I wish there were some aux roles that we know to help us...

Or even more people talking.
pieguyn
All right, I find it really odd that Quaraezha made a bunch of posts day 1 and hasn't posted anything at all in day 2. Also, he kept voting and unvoting Swiftwolf on day 1.

I'd also like to hear from Kiddo-Kun and DxS. :?
Kiddo-Kun
Just checking in and there is nothing much to say since nothing is going on.

Also, shall we prod DxS?
pieguyn
I think we probably should.

If I had to name two people as mafia right now it'd be NoHItter and Quaraezha. Actually now that I realize it Quaraezha seems more suspicious to me than NoHItter, so unvote NoHItter, vote Quaraezha
Kiddo-Kun
Can you give some reasoning behind that? It's not like I'm going to defend him (Depends on your argument, really). I just want to know what you find suspicious about him.

Oh and also Prod DxS
pieguyn
For Quaraezha:

pieguy1372 wrote:

All right, I find it really odd that Quaraezha made a bunch of posts day 1 and hasn't posted anything at all in day 2. Also, he kept voting and unvoting Swiftwolf on day 1.
For NoHItter: Still mostly a gut feeling. :?
NoHitter
Let me ask a question then:
Who do you think are the mafia? Chances are, there are two.
Rantai
If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say Lilac and DxS.

Lilac because of my previously mentioned points.

DxS because all he's done is make one bandwagon vote.

There isn't much to work on but that's how it stands with me right now.
NoHitter
Whoops forgot to answer my own question first.
MB777 and Kiddo-kun (gut only though)
No one is really pinging me that much.

Others need to post more.
DeathxShinigami

Kiddo-Kun wrote:

Just checking in and there is nothing much to say since nothing is going on.

Also, shall we prod DxS?
Says the other one who hasn't spoken much.

Anywho...Haneii's death seems almost random though I can see why mafia targeted her because of how aggressive she played back in Day 1.

If anything I have to say at the moment Player Q's rather dodgy actions lately seems to suggest he "could be mafia" otherwise I don't have much thoughts at this point.
Lilac
I initially thought NoHItter was Mafia. I was dead certain on voting for him if he said anything that would be scummy.

He didn't though, which made me reconsider my options at this point in time. I want to play really aggressively on this one as if you aren't being decisive, you aren't helping anyone you're just WIFOMing. (I still can't talk though.)

Vote: DxS
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