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DragonForce - Through The Fire And Flames

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Topic Starter
Lesjuh
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on woensdag 9 maart 2011 at 20:57:01

Artist: DragonForce
Title: Through The Fire And Flames
Tags: Inhuman Rampage ttfaf legend insane dragon force stream deathstream herman li speedmetal metal
BPM: 200
Filesize: 14241kb
Play Time: 07:19
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4,86 stars, 1064 notes)
  2. Legend (5 stars, 2389 notes)
  3. Medium (4,62 stars, 464 notes)
  4. Taiko (4,83 stars, 3149 notes)
Download: DragonForce - Through The Fire And Flames
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Due to popular demand, another Dragonforce map! [Legend], 200mil GL/HF~!!

Liked this map? Then you might also want to give this one a try: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18860

Pendinggg!!
arien666
Wow...
VERY HARD ;_;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Through_Th ... And_Flames

[General]
[Suggestion] Add tag 'Inhuman Rampage' so that people can find this song with album name?
[Suggestion] Add tag 'TTFAF' :3?

Anyway...
I wonder if you allow Taiko diff on this song :3
Good luck XD
Topic Starter
Lesjuh

arien666 wrote:

I wonder if you allow Taiko diff on this song :3
Very well then :P
YGOkid8
star for background made in photoshop

i think arken already said, but:

Through the Fire and Flames.
Yuji Tokaji
Star !!
rEdo
dude, you're going crazy <3
map MSWGO after you are done with this one, pleeease =(
crash123
STAR <3
Ekoro
OMGOMG !

Why i love this ? o.o

~Star ! =D
SilentWings_old
STAR!
gowww
8-)
xBubu
:D
Hyguys
Can i make an hard?
Topic Starter
Lesjuh

Hyguys123123132 wrote:

Can i make an hard?
ignorethis is already mapping a Hard difficulty. I'm also not accepting any other guest difficulties for now.
arien666
Taiko difficulty by arien666 in progress...
Err... If possible, please add Sushi-chan please ;_;
He's also working with me too :3...
Anyway,

It might be finished on this weekend :3
Unless...




edit. BTW, DON :3
[Add 'arien666' and 'Sushi' (and 'arken1015') Tag on [Legend] diff if possible :3]

Download: DragonForce - Through The Fire And Flames (Lesjuh) [aru+Sushi's Taiko].osu
Topic Starter
Lesjuh
Thanks, I'll upload tonight. I think your taiko difficulty is limited, there's alot of the same patterns while there's much more to the song. Consider putting more variation into it.
Charsi
Lesjuh, thank you for these maps of dragonforce~ it's really cool
star <3
Muya
:o
Rucker
crazy stream ~

nice map :P
lepidopodus

Lesjuh wrote:

Thanks, I'll upload tonight. I think your taiko difficulty is limited, there's alot of the same patterns while there's much more to the song. Consider putting more variation into it.
Well, there's not much diverse patterns which fit well with song in Taiko (as there are only don and kat) and consider this is quite long map I think it's Ok.
Personally I like this kind of Taiko map. I'll mod soon.

Before that, HP drain of Taiko diff should be lowered a lot, cause.... Well, arken & sushi, just try to clear that. This one has really lots of notes (over 3000!) and gaining your HP is really slow, but HP draining will be really fast, as it doesn't depend on the number of the notes that much.
(Yup, this is why this map is really hard to pass.)
noneed
Mr auto says he hates you (no well me because I let him play it.. ~.~)

Legend:
Rename to Legend+
00:24:769 (1) - delete the six before and start the slider there.since always sliders that give you a very short break from the streams is (5)
00:25:969 (1) - remove new combo
00:52:369 (3) - somehow ugly overlap with following slider.move it..
01:07:219 (1,2,3) - thats so Legend+!! <3
02:12:669 (2,3,4) - no jumps?I'm surprised..
03:51:169 - add note?

awesome map lesjuh!!
arien666

lepidopodus wrote:

Before that, HP drain of Taiko diff should be lowered a lot, cause.... Well, arken & sushi, just try to clear that. This one has really lots of notes (over 3000!) and gaining your HP is really slow, but HP draining will be really fast, as it doesn't depend on the number of the notes that much.
(Yup, this is why this map is really hard to pass.)
Well?

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:6
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:2

This song has same HP Drain Rate as 'happy30''s thing ;_;
And considering diff, It doesn't seem need to reduce HP Drain ;_;




edit. Whatever, fixed

Download: DragonForce - Through The Fire And Flames (Lesjuh) [aru+Sushi's Taiko].osu
ignorethis
for backup purpose

arrangement: 100%
hitsounds: 2%

max combo ftw

btw don't upload this for now

Download: DragonForce - Through The Fire And Flames (Lesjuh) [ignore's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
Lesjuh

noneed wrote:

Legend:
Rename to Legend+ No
00:24:769 (1) - delete the six before and start the slider there.since always sliders that give you a very short break from the streams is (5)
00:25:969 (1) - remove new combo There's a different matter here, fixed it now
00:52:369 (3) - somehow ugly overlap with following slider.move it.. intentional and not ugly at all to me
01:07:219 (1,2,3) - thats so Legend+!! <3 But it's one of the easiest parts lol
02:12:669 (2,3,4) - no jumps?I'm surprised.. I'm not going to confuse players with jumps at an 1/3 section
03:51:169 - add note? Nah

awesome map lesjuh!!
Thanks for modding!
noneed

Lesjuh wrote:

noneed wrote:

Legend:
Rename to Legend+ No
00:24:769 (1) - delete the six before and start the slider there.since always sliders that give you a very short break from the streams is (5)
00:25:969 (1) - remove new combo There's a different matter here, fixed it now
00:52:369 (3) - somehow ugly overlap with following slider.move it.. intentional and not ugly at all to me
01:07:219 (1,2,3) - thats so Legend+!! <3 But it's one of the easiest parts lol
02:12:669 (2,3,4) - no jumps?I'm surprised.. I'm not going to confuse players with jumps at an 1/3 section
03:51:169 - add note? Nah

awesome map lesjuh!!
Thanks for modding!
Np, nice to know that I could help an elite mapper.The Legend+ was just a joke^^
CapnDavid
Star.
Legalist
aweesome :D Star.
noneed
do you want to give players like me hope with that drain rate?that's mean >.<
Topic Starter
Lesjuh
It's on 4, try something easier if it's too hard for you.
omegaflo
Good map =) Really hard this time o.o nice one Lesjuh

aru+Sushi's Taiko Diff :

00.49:069 - 01.15:319 Hmm, only dons and only kats parts ? try to see if you can't change something, nota big problem after all but...
02.25:069 - 02.33:319 Many D K DDK, Maybe some reversal switches ? (K D KKD)

03:10:519 (1,1,1,1,2) - Why don't keep the DDDKDDDK pattern on the end ? Maybe cut the stream to get more logic patterns than this deathstream
03:36:169 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,1) - Strange pattern, DDDKKK in a stream does not fit very well...
05:25:260 (295,296,297,298,299,300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307) - Maybe some kats to follow the lasts streams
06:04:260 (610,611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625) - KDDDKDDD Pattern Sounds better
06:13:260 (9) - Move to 06:13:485 To follow the "Can we unDERstand ?"

I'll leave lepidon for a better modding =)

oh, and Star o/*
arien666


:3



omegaflo wrote:

Good map =) Really hard this time o.o nice one Lesjuh

aru+Sushi's Taiko Diff :

00.49:069 - 01.15:319 Hmm, only dons and only kats parts ? try to see if you can't change something, nota big problem after all but... At least, norma-gaining part needed orz. So, I'll keep this ;_;
02.25:069 - 02.33:319 Many D K DDK, Maybe some reversal switches ? (K D KKD) No part of reversing melody imo so ;_;

03:10:519 (1,1,1,1,2) - Why don't keep the DDDKDDDK pattern on the end ? Maybe cut the stream to get more logic patterns than this deathstream
03:36:169 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,1) - Strange pattern, DDDKKK in a stream does not fit very well...
05:25:260 (295,296,297,298,299,300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307) - Maybe some kats to follow the lasts streams
06:04:260 (610,611,612,613,614,615,616,617,618,619,620,621,622,623,624,625) - KDDDKDDD Pattern Sounds better
06:13:260 (9) - Move to 06:13:485 To follow the "Can we unDERstand ?"
Leaves to Sushi

I'll leave lepidon for a better modding =)

oh, and Star o/*
Sorry ;_;
Anyway...



02:44:269 (3) ~ 02:53:719 (1) - Saitama!



edit. Sushi updated map so :3

Download: DragonForce - Through The Fire And Flames (Lesjuh) [aru+Sushi's Taiko].osu
lepidopodus
Taiko modding... As I was given 1 kudosu already you don't have to kudosu this

aru+Sushi's Taiko
I said you should lower the HP drain and arken said he did and HP drain is still 5. With this HP drain, full-norma gauge will be depleted to 0 with about 120~140 miss and this song has over 3000 notes!
Below is just suggestion. Don't need to take it so serious. Well I think this one is quite good enough.
01:20:119 (3) - Let's put some slight variation in this part. How about changing this to k?
01:31:969 (8) - with same purpose, how about changing this to k?
01:52:669 ~ 01:53:869 - Turn off kiai temporarily?
02:27:319 (1) - d, if you want more variation. Yeah, actually d k ddk is quite good lol
02:32:119 (1) - ^
02:43:069 (2) - How about spinner?
03:03:469 (3) ~ 03:39:469 (4) - Quite evil lol
03:03:469 (3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - I think you don't need to use this 4 times. How about change the 1st~3rd ones slightly simpler than now? (or 1st and 2nd?)
03:08:269 (1) ~ 03:10:819 (2) - You want to make it Rotter? Isn't too long for BPM 200?
03:27:319 (1) - k? (As you put (d k dkd)X3 + (d k xxxxx) in previous 4 measures...)
03:36:169 (1) ~ 03:38:119 (1) - This kind of irregular patterns aren't good for BPM 200. I thnk this map is already hard.
05:21:060 (270) - I'd rather put kkddkkd in here.
05:22:260 (275) - kkkkddk?
05:54:660 (532) - ddddkkd?
05:55:860 (539) - kkkkddd?
06:01:260 (585,586,587,588,589,590) - kkd K?
06:30:660 (53) - I think notes(circles) would be better than slider...
06:31:860 (59) - ^
07:09:060 (1) - make it slightly shorter than 07:11:460 (1)...
07:11:460 (1) - and make it slighty shorter than 07:13:860 (1). Currently those spinners give 19/19/19 but you can make them 17/18/19 or something like that...

Oh, what a crappy modding, nice map indeed. I like the patterns, though it's somewhat repititive in arken's part. Not much to say about pattern itself though.
(Yeah, this is kinda 'shotgun modding'. Poke everything will increase the possibility to fix at least one of them lol)
arien666

lepidopodus wrote:

Taiko modding... As I was given 1 kudosu already you don't have to kudosu this

aru+Sushi's Taiko
I said you should lower the HP drain and arken said he did and HP drain is still 5. With this HP drain, full-norma gauge will be depleted to 0 with about 120~140 miss and this song has over 3000 notes! Changed to 3 anyway orz
Below is just suggestion. Don't need to take it so serious. Well I think this one is quite good enough.
01:20:119 (3) - Let's put some slight variation in this part. How about changing this to k? Sorry ;_;
01:31:969 (8) - with same purpose, how about changing this to k? Sorry ;_;
01:52:669 ~ 01:53:869 - Turn off kiai temporarily? changed
02:27:319 (1) - d, if you want more variation. Yeah, actually d k ddk is quite good lol Sorry ;_;
02:32:119 (1) - ^ Sorry ;_;
02:43:069 (2) - How about spinner? changed
03:03:469 (3) ~ 03:39:469 (4) - Quite evil lol
03:03:469 (3,1,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - I think you don't need to use this 4 times. How about change the 1st~3rd ones slightly simpler than now? (or 1st and 2nd?) Changed 1st and 2nd
03:08:269 (1) ~ 03:10:819 (2) - You want to make it Rotter? Isn't too long for BPM 200? Drum stream part orz
03:27:319 (1) - k? (As you put (d k dkd)X3 + (d k xxxxx) in previous 4 measures...) Sorry ;_;
03:36:169 (1) ~ 03:38:119 (1) - This kind of irregular patterns aren't good for BPM 200. I thnk this map is already hard. Cut some parts and changed
05:21:060 (270) - I'd rather put kkddkkd in here. Below, Up to Sushi :3
05:22:260 (275) - kkkkddk?
05:54:660 (532) - ddddkkd?
05:55:860 (539) - kkkkddd?
06:01:260 (585,586,587,588,589,590) - kkd K?
06:30:660 (53) - I think notes(circles) would be better than slider...
06:31:860 (59) - ^
07:09:060 (1) - make it slightly shorter than 07:11:460 (1)...
07:11:460 (1) - and make it slighty shorter than 07:13:860 (1). Currently those spinners give 19/19/19 but you can make them 17/18/19 or something like that...

Oh, what a crappy modding, nice map indeed. I like the patterns, though it's somewhat repititive in arken's part. Not much to say about pattern itself though.
(Yeah, this is kinda 'shotgun modding'. Poke everything will increase the possibility to fix at least one of them lol)
As this song is TOO LONG, I should repeat some parts ;_;

Download: DragonForce - Through The Fire And Flames (Lesjuh) [aru+Sushi's Taiko].osu
mekadon_old
woooooohhoooohohoh DragonForce again
yeah, taiko is epic~~~
starrrrrrrrrrr~
Sushi
AngelHoney
>~</
Ekoro
*.* I can't pass this.

SilentWings_old

so hard
YGOkid8
i am so pro~
Topic Starter
Lesjuh
Renamed all difficulties and credited the mappers in the storyboard. Redownload to view them. I'm planning to make some storyboard effects and two easier difficulties.
chocomint
star~ :D
Ekoro
No mores guest diff now? ._. ( Because i want make an guest diff.. >w< )
Topic Starter
Lesjuh

_LRJ_ wrote:

No mores guest diff now? ._. ( Because i want make an guest diff.. >w< )
Nope, sorry.
Ekoro

Lesjuh wrote:

_LRJ_ wrote:

No mores guest diff now? ._. ( Because i want make an guest diff.. >w< )
Nope, sorry.
'k , not problem.
Uan
Good Patience!!
&Good map : )
Star~~
Danneh
Suggestion: add tag; impossible ? ~ maybe to attract the hardcore osu players

Star <3

I love it =D
KanbeKotori
;)
good map :D
arien666
Maybe, re-naming [aru+Sushi's Taiko] into [Taiko] seems good imo.
I do not blame about this :3

Keep going XD
rustbell
oh my god
ignorethis
YGOkid8
the only thing i don't really like about ignore's diff. is the amount of spinners, how they're regular, then not really (esp. near the beginning).
Also, some of the breaks. Basically the ones which aren't in Insane (which is basically all of them, I guess), but I'm just saying.
Natteke
I would love this map if it used larger hitcircles :<
Ekoro
[Hard]

Too low Approach Rate. It's unreadable.
Mizu_banned
Niiiice (;
Star :p
Topic Starter
Lesjuh

Natteke wrote:

I would love this map if it used larger hitcircles :<
I hate using big circles, everyone does it and now people complain about the default size. Don't tell me to make it easier, play hard or medium if it's too hard for you.

_LRJ_ wrote:

[Hard]

Too low Approach Rate. It's unreadable.
Bullshit. It's perfectly readable.
TKiller
insert complain about circle size here

pretty ez actually, aside from relatively xwide spaced streams made with Normal size circles

Also, since OD and AR got split, I always suggest OD 7 AR 8 combination for hugely stream'd maps, since OD 7 won't let you hit keys randomly during streams, but is a bit more forgiving if player slightly fucked up at following the stream rhythm and aloows recovering. In my opinion it would fit this one even more than usual stream map because of it's lenght. Well, just my opinion, might be worth keeping in mind.

Probably should try to grind this map after my stream hand recovers from injury, might be worth it :]
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