Mystearica wrote:

Rules rules rules that's what this is all about isn't it? How about a rule that says BATs can't be shit mappers?

ztrot wrote:

As much as i hate to see maps unranked I wouldn't of unranked this for its diff spread. But there is a hidden note in Another

that Imo is enough reason to unrank.

note do no go under sliders in that manner even if the skin allows you to see it because without that skin you'd never see it coming

01:24:968 (2) -

Jerrysr wrote:

Sorry, I went to sleep.

to ztrot: I will ask ignorethis to review this part.

to those who support me: thank you, but I don't want to perplex this issue.

to Cyclone: yes I didn't know the main point of unranking criterion in my map, Ephemeral didn't say it clearly.

to Ephemeral: I now understand your thoughts but I just want a equitable ranking standard.


So finally this map can just be approved not ranked?
(if I don't want to split the difficulty or do huge changes?)

SPOILER

I'm sad.
I don't want to make dispute.

Ephemeral wrote:

Jerrysr wrote:

Sorry, I went to sleep.

to ztrot: I will ask ignorethis to review this part.

to those who support me: thank you, but I don't want to perplex this issue.

to Cyclone: yes I didn't know the main point of unranking criterion in my map, Ephemeral didn't say it clearly.

to Ephemeral: I now understand your thoughts but I just want a equitable ranking standard.


So finally this map can just be approved not ranked?
(if I don't want to split the difficulty or do huge changes?)

SPOILER

I'm sad.
I don't want to make dispute.

This is being worked on. I'm sorry if you felt you were being picked on - we have to start establishing the standards somewhere, and unfortunately this just happened to be the first stepping stone for it all.

It would be perfectly fine for approval in its current state with absolutely no changes. If you wanted it ranked, however - extensive changes would need to be made, probably requiring you to drop quite a few of the guest insanes, which I'm sure is something that you really don't want to do.

Either way, the map gets a scoreboard in the end.

@gdeath: there are certain things maps cannot have if they are to be ranked, and hidden/occluded notes happens to be one of them. this has always been the case and will definitely not change just for this map

Alace wrote:

come on
my map is so easy
rank it

Alace wrote:

come on
my map is so easy
rank it

Alace wrote:

come on
my map is so easy
rank it

Gabi wrote:

How is this for a solution, you rank the map, and then make the 2 guest Insane diffs approved in this mapset, or let jerrysr decide which 2 guest diffs should go for approved.

Cyclone wrote:

Gabi wrote:

How is this for a solution, you rank the map, and then make the 2 guest Insane diffs approved in this mapset, or let jerrysr decide which 2 guest diffs should go for approved.

I'd almost be willing to buy that solution. There's just one thing that bothers me. Why the hell does a map need 3 insanes in the first place? There is no reason whatsoever. If keeping the 3 insanes is just a matter of preserving work that's already been done, fine, whatever, approve them, I don't care(talk to peppy), but there's no reason for that work to have been done in the first place. It's not like the difficulties would have filled a gap in the mapset(aka if there was no insane), so what the hell was the point? (Anybody preparing to suggest "Why not?" as an argument... needs to just not do so at this time.)

If any decision is made about this, let me know so i can formerly mod this.

Also, tag-unranking, what? Does that even mean anything?

Cyclone wrote:

Gabi wrote:

How is this for a solution, you rank the map, and then make the 2 guest Insane diffs approved in this mapset, or let jerrysr decide which 2 guest diffs should go for approved.

I'd almost be willing to buy that solution. There's just one thing that bothers me. Why the hell does a map need 3 insanes in the first place? There is no reason whatsoever. If keeping the 3 insanes is just a matter of preserving work that's already been done, fine, whatever, approve them, I don't care(talk to peppy), but there's no reason for that work to have been done in the first place. It's not like the difficulties would have filled a gap in the mapset(aka if there was no insane), so what the hell was the point? (Anybody preparing to suggest "Why not?" as an argument... needs to just not do so at this time.)

If any decision is made about this, let me know so i can formerly mod this.

Also, tag-unranking, what? Does that even mean anything?

Mystearica wrote:

of course certain BAT maps with only 2 diffs which were both I gets ranked and no one cares

DiamondCrash wrote:

Mystearica wrote:

of course certain BAT maps with only 2 diffs which were both I gets ranked and no one cares

hypocrisy anyone? yeah i don't know

but when someone with no mapping experience becomes a bat purely due to talking diarrhea out of his mouth to another retard it's no surprise this happens

Shut the fuck up. That was ages ago; we have moved on. New rules are being made, old ones being bent. That would never happen nowadays. This game evolves, time for you to as well.

Cyclone wrote:

Add default skin's spinner-bg.png or force default skin.

ztrot wrote:

But there is a hidden note in Another

The unrank should not have happened for the original reason as it wasn't in the guidelines.
A new guideline is in discussion and will likely stop these cases from occurring again (they really shouldn't be ranked).
Yes, a mistake was made.

James wrote:

popping the bubble for a while...


fria's diff:
00:59:264 (1,1) - is this allowable now? if it is, gimme a ranked beatmap that has the same pattern.

James wrote:

im pointing out at the slider AFTER the spinner. 1/4 gap?

if thats allowable, ok i'll even rank this right now.

but if is not..

my suggestion:
change that spinner to a 1/2 bpm slider or something.


-o-

i already checked all other diffs, it should be fine now besides that ign's diff is too crazy for me

osuplayer111 wrote:

I was going to recheck this but James beat me. Fix what James said then.

kenji8888 wrote:

nice song
and ignore's another is very very hard lol

kenji8888 wrote:

nice song
and ignore's another is very very hard lol

RemmyX25 wrote:

Before this gets reranked, I would really like to see the difficulty spread better widened. N I I I I is just unacceptable, and it really isn't that hard to tone down the difficulties a bit while keeping them original.

Jerrysr wrote:

RemmyX25 wrote:

Before this gets reranked, I would really like to see the difficulty spread better widened. N I I I I is just unacceptable, and it really isn't that hard to tone down the difficulties a bit while keeping them original.

Did you see the older posts in this thread?

I really want this to be ranked = ="

By the way, could you rank this?
I've looked for other bats to mod this, but some bats don't want to.........0rz

Natteke desu wrote:

I don't get why there is a problem with easy diffs. There are thousands of easy diffs around maps, noobs will not cry because there isn't enough easy diffs for them

RemmyX25 wrote:

Um

Did you read my post AT ALL??

EDIT: Look. I'm willing to help you fix the difficulty spread without majorly changing any of the maps. How does that sound?

RemmyX25 wrote:

Before this gets reranked, I would really like to see the difficulty spread better widened. N I I I I is just unacceptable, and it really isn't that hard to tone down the difficulties a bit while keeping them original.

peppy wrote:

Simple answer:

The unrank should not have happened for the original reason as it wasn't in the guidelines.
A new guideline is in discussion and will likely stop these cases from occurring again (they really shouldn't be ranked).
Yes, a mistake was made.

There are still errors in this map that mean it cannot be ranked yet (hidden notes, for a start).

Let's leave it at that and move on, please. @Jerrysr please contact me when you are ready to fix the issues and this thread can be unlocked.

peppy wrote:

A new guideline is in discussion and will likely stop these cases from occurring again (they really shouldn't be ranked).

peppy wrote:

Simple answer:

The unrank should not have happened for the original reason as it wasn't in the guidelines.
A new guideline is in discussion and will likely stop these cases from occurring again (they really shouldn't be ranked).
Yes, a mistake was made.

There are still errors in this map that mean it cannot be ranked yet (hidden notes, for a start).

Let's leave it at that and move on, please. @Jerrysr please contact me when you are ready to fix the issues and this thread can be unlocked.

yaya wrote:

PEPPY SAID THIS MAP COULD RANK !
OK?

DON'T POP/UNRANK BUBBLE/RANKED MAP ANY MORE OK?
THIS IS THE GUILDLINE!

give back his bubble.don't do SHIT any more

RemmyX25 wrote:

peppy wrote:

A new guideline is in discussion and will likely stop these cases from occurring again (they really shouldn't be ranked).

EDIT: I'm doing the bloody work for you guys so get off of my ass about it.

Alace wrote:

you guys refuse ranking it because of those 3 insanes ??

RemmyX25 wrote:

Alace wrote:

you guys refuse ranking it because of those 3 insanes ??

Actually, if you count, there is 4, not including the taiko difficulty.

deepsea wrote:

RemmyX25 wrote:

Actually, if you count, there is 4, not including the taiko difficulty.

Have you ever played [Hard]?

deepsea wrote:

I really regretted making my [Relaxing] now, people just focus on the signs and consider my effort to balance the map as shit.

1. Make hitcircle size largest
2. Turn the HP drain down to minimum
3. Turn OD down a notch or two

1. I find it odd that this map has a lower HP drain than relaxing. Turn it up a notch.
2. Turn slider velocity down to 1.40. This will cause a few sliders to break and some sliders and notes combined may need to be repositioned to match their intended position
3. Hitcircle size can be larger.
4. Lower OD
   Post Update:
5. I forgot to mention that changing velocity also changes the distance snap a tad, so go over these again and make sure it flows alright. If it gets too clustered, you can turn up the distance snap a little. It SHOULDNT affect the difficulty too much.
6. Also turned slider velocity to 1.3, brings you down to 4.45
   
   I'm not sure what else i can do for this one, besides make the distance snap less odd.

yaya wrote:

PEPPY SAID THIS MAP COULD RANK !
OK?

DON'T POP/UNRANK BUBBLE/RANKED MAP ANY MORE OK?
THIS IS THE GUILDLINE!

give back his bubble.don't do SHIT any more

RemmyX25 wrote:

deepsea wrote:

Have you ever played [Hard]?

No i havent. I'm going to. And I'm going to suggest changing the difficulty sliders to make it more like a Hard without changing the map.

deepsea wrote:

Since there isn't an easy (it was), from 00:24:80 to 00:35:18, delete (2)s (circles between sliders) if you think it's better Jerrysr.

Also, I still don't think we need to change hard just to make the sign goes hard, it's pointless and waste of time and fucked the map up.

James wrote:

face it, bats (not me) loathe this map