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utsuP - Adult's Toy [Osu|Taiko]

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Topic Starter
SapphireGhost
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, December 15, 2012 at 2:10:03 AM

Artist: utsuP
Title: Adult's Toy
Tags: Cristian Kurisuchianu Vocaloid Kagamine Rin Adult Toys Otona no Omocha tateshina ke-san
BPM: 280
Filesize: 12926kb
Play Time: 04:33
Difficulties Available:
  1. Cristian's Taiko Oni (4.67 stars, 1729 notes)
  2. Desecration (4.87 stars, 1070 notes)
Download: utsuP - Adult's Toy
Download: utsuP - Adult's Toy (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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MAP 19 / RANK 11

280 BPM wrath map to go with Abstract Nonsense.

Special thanks to Cristian for the taiko difficulty.
Special thanks to blissfulyoshi for help with the video.
Low
First. Good luck!
Larto
Every cell in my body braced and broke.
Backfire
Can I make a taiko?
Cristian

Backfire wrote:

Can I make a taiko?
u r in everywhere ;_;, i can't ask now.
Backfire
You're the one who keeps ninjaing me! D:
val0108
I want Adult toy's
Topic Starter
SapphireGhost

val0108 wrote:

I want Adult toy's
Kudosu for playtesting, advice about two patterns and moral support.
val0108
starrrrrrrr
IchiGUN
Yeah....star ~_^

Hello SapphireGhost~
My mini mod ^^

==========
General
● Good
==================
Desecration

>Settings
● Good

>Mapping

Just suggestion ;)

● 00:24:818 (2) - move to x:400 y:108
● 00:24:925 (3) - maybe chage form at 00:24:497 (1) + Ctrl+H and Ctrl+J ?
● 00:25:247 (4) - move to x:160 y:192


● 00:50:532 (2) - 1 grid up?
● 01:16:997 (5) - too low, please up it
● 01:33:925 (5,6) - ^
● 01:40:997 (5) - ^
● 02:47:640 (1) - ^
● 02:50:212 (1) - maybe 1 grid up?

● 04:16:246 (2,3) - ugly sliders = =

>Hitsounds
● Good
==========================
Really nice map :oops: Sorry for short mod :(
Topic Starter
SapphireGhost
mod response

IchiGUN wrote:

Yeah....star ~_^

Hello SapphireGhost~
My mini mod ^^

==========
General
● Good
==================
Desecration

>Settings
● Good

>Mapping

Just suggestion ;)

● 00:24:818 (2) - move to x:400 y:108 Keeping it as it is now to make an equilateral triangle with (1,2,3).
● 00:24:925 (3) - maybe chage form at 00:24:497 (1) + Ctrl+H and Ctrl+J ?
● 00:25:247 (4) - move to x:160 y:192

Thanks for suggestion but I'd like to keep the current pattern, it avoids overlap.

● 00:50:532 (2) - 1 grid up? It's how it is now to make the (1,2) blanket better.
● 01:16:997 (5) - too low, please up it Good suggestion, but in game the notes don't go off screen, so I won't change.
● 01:33:925 (5,6) - ^
● 01:40:997 (5) - ^
● 02:47:640 (1) - ^
● 02:50:212 (1) - maybe 1 grid up? It's current position is set to be symmetrical across the x-axis with the endpoint of (2).

● 04:16:246 (2,3) - ugly sliders = = Changed a little, but they're the same shape.

>Hitsounds
● Good
==========================
Really nice map :oops: Sorry for short mod :( Sorry I said "no" to so many things, but thank you for modding, I really appreciate it.
YTYuyu
OMG yes somebody mapped this. :D
Regou
Just see this evil song here->http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist&s=7&r=2 and I am going to give a short mod :P
[Desecration]
00:57:175 (1,2) - rrr this placement make me feel that 00:57:390 (2) is two sliders...
02:13:034 (4) - Unsnapped note.
03:49:782 (1) - Use spinner here?
blissfulyoshi
Since I was trying to look up the map with they word omocha,
Add the Japanese title to the tags "Otona no Omocha" (No kds, but that is a given for something so small)
Topic Starter
SapphireGhost

Regou wrote:

Just see this evil song here->http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist&s=7&r=2 and I am going to give a short mod :P Thanks!
[Desecration]
00:57:175 (1,2) - rrr this placement make me feel that 00:57:390 (2) is two sliders... Okay, changed this part.
02:13:034 (4) - Unsnapped note. No idea why. Fixed.
03:49:782 (1) - Use spinner here? I like the slider at this point, so I'll keep it.
Thanks again for your modding.
Also, thank you to blissfulyoshi for the tags suggestion (also fixed) and to everyone for all the stars so far, I really appreciate all the support.
Verdisphena
-12 to offset? :D
Cristian
emolitox
el verdi se la come ^^
emolitox
toda la paltita con pan cierto?
[deleted user]
This is so so so so so so so so so so²²²² awesome
Topic Starter
SapphireGhost
Verdisphena: Seemed a bit much for me, so I'm trying -10 for now. Thanks for the new timing!
Kurisuchainu: Taiko difficulty looks good, all the effort really paid off. Added!
Megastore: Thank you for the support ~

With the taiko difficulty, this map is officially pending. Here we go.
Cristian
Thanks but, look's like i didn't have chanche the HP and the OD
OD: 5
HP: 3~4 imo
Thanks again.
Musty
PRO MAP
BIG BIG BIG YEAAAAAAAAH !!1!1!13!!1!1!
Verdisphena
dont grave pls
val0108


1:44~
DaxMasterix
Retry?! >:C U can't still sending awesomemaps to Graveyard :c.. So.. I will mod this to revive this. o3o the same with ''Abstract Nonsense''.. if you remember me ._.

General:

  1. Add tateshina & ke-san to tags (Illust & Movie >.<)
Desecration:
  1. 00:17:844 (2) - Move this Object to x:40|y:144 [Grid lvl: 3]
  2. 00:18:058 (3) - Move this Object to x:88|y:72 [Grid lvl: 3]
  3. 00:45:701 (4) - You Need move this note to x:248|y:316 [Grid lvl: 4]
  4. 00:46:558 (4) - Move this Object to x:412|y:56 [Grid lvl: 3]
  5. 01:05:415 (7) - Move this Object to x:488|y:336 [Grid lvl: 3]
  6. 01:06:915 (7,8) - If you make the Last change. Move this Notes to x:412|y:172 [Grid lvl: 4] No rly. Make this and the Last change.. lol.. make a good distance in the notes 01:06:058 (3,4,6,7)
  7. 01:07:344 (1) - Why not in the same place of 01:05:630 (1) (? I know is Grid lvl: OFF but Try move it..
  8. 01:25:344 (5) - Ctrl+R
  9. 01:25:772 (7) - Ctrl+R
  10. 01:28:237 (1) - Center this.
  11. 01:28:987 (5) - Ctrl+R
  12. 01:29:415 (7) - Ctrl+R lol no rly, I think the Circular movements are very Funny..
  13. 01:29:844 (2) - The End of this Slider are not 'EXACTLY' in the Same place of the End/Begin of the Slider 01:28:987 (5) .. Yeah.. Depends if you make the last change..
  14. 01:30:487 (5) - You will need fix This if you make the Last change.. retry.. XD
  15. 01:34:130 (6) - Ctrl+R
  16. 01:37:344 (4) - Ctrl+R
  17. 01:40:773 (4) - Move this Object to x:180|y:304 [Grid lvl: 4]
  18. 01:42:916 (6) - Ctrl+R
  19. 01:46:559 (8,9) - Ctrl+R .. And fix The Hitsounds after~
  20. 02:10:345 (3) - Ctrl+R
  21. 02:10:559 (4) - Ctrl+R
  22. 02:24:166 (2,4) - Ctrl+R :c
  23. 02:31:130 (3,4) - Ctrl+R xc
  24. 04:21:914 (1,2,3,4) - OHNO.. I preffer This You know how are the Sliders.. The place is the end Of the Last Sliders~ :33 Except fot the Slider (1) lol
Kuri's Taiko Oni:
  1. Change the SV to 1,20 or 1,30 Plz :c 280 BPM lol
  2. 03:38:200 (4) - K
  3. 03:55:343 (1) - d
  4. 03:55:771 (1) - d
EHM... Only that.. Srry for the Shor taiko Mod.. Im not Great Modding ''Hardaweasdsamoas280BPM'' Taiko Diffs so.. xD And Srry for the Nazi Mod.. But this map is very awesome and a Normal Mod.. well.. With a normal mod you will win a ''Put a NC here okay Bye'' .. If you understand me.. This mas is Perfect and need Nazi eyes for mod it.. XD Nothing Personal.. i love your maps <3~

HOPE You will Revive & App This! :)
Topic Starter
SapphireGhost
Updated now. I'd give DaxMasterix a full mod response but it'd take ages writing it and I'm tired.
Will I ever get this approved? No one knows. I guess we'll find out.
Musty
you should rank.
DaxMasterix
you should app.
1111231_old
amazing Music :!: :!: :!: :!:
and Good map :D
Hanyuu
:)
NatsumeRin
[General]
offset:+6

[Desecration]
00:18:915 (7) - whistle at the beginning?
00:21:272 (2) - ^, this part seems more organized then
00:52:558 (3) - make this a curved slider? (this is the only straigt one here and seems a bit strange)
01:21:915 (5,6,7,8) - add whistles at the beginnings...? (this is a sentence between two parts, which i think should stress more.)
01:47:416 (3) - a bit too close to 2 (just looks not that good)
01:54:487 (1,2,3,4) - switch 1^3 and 2&4? In fact this reminds me of a part of I'm so Happy (EXT) in jubeat a bit....
02:53:630 (1,2) - whistle on all beats
02:57:059 (1,2) - if you do ^, here too.
03:00:487 (1,2) - sliderwhistle
03:49:772 (1) - ..this again lol

[Kuri's Taiko Oni]
I strongly suggest to use 1.2 or even less SV... it looks like... too crazy (though the map is crazy as hell too)
00:27:540 (1) - k?
00:27:755 (1) - k?
00:41:630 (3) - plz no for the slow down. as a taiko specific diff, such thing should try to be avoided. If you really like this plz give that place at least 1/1 break.
01:22:772 (5) - 0.6x is a bit too low here... still will cause some reading problems imo (not that bad though)
02:16:451 (1) - d?
02:19:880 (1) - ^
02:50:415 (2) - move 1/1 later?
02:53:630 (2) - ^
Topic Starter
SapphireGhost

NatsumeRin wrote:

[General]
offset:+6 Works for me.

[Desecration]
00:18:915 (7) - whistle at the beginning? Lots of whistles, but okay.
00:21:272 (2) - ^, this part seems more organized then ^
00:52:558 (3) - make this a curved slider? (this is the only straigt one here and seems a bit strange) Done.
01:21:915 (5,6,7,8) - add whistles at the beginnings...? (this is a sentence between two parts, which i think should stress more.) Added to (5) and (7).
01:47:416 (3) - a bit too close to 2 (just looks not that good) Changed so now the endpoints of (2) and (3) line up, form a better blanket and the end of (3) makes a triangle with (4) and (5).
01:54:487 (1,2,3,4) - switch 1^3 and 2&4? In fact this reminds me of a part of I'm so Happy (EXT) in jubeat a bit.... I looked up a video of this, heh. Changed.
02:53:630 (1,2) - whistle on all beats
02:57:059 (1,2) - if you do ^, here too.
03:00:487 (1,2) - sliderwhistle Changed this and some other things about the hitsounds in this section.
03:49:772 (1) - ..this again lol Lcy
I'll contact Kurisuchianu now, thanks a lot for modding.
grumd
sudden irc mod
08:35 *grumd is editing (Kagamine Rin - Adult's Toy)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/47846]
08:35 SapphireGhost: : mmhmm
08:35 grumd: : 00:56:844 (6) - this slider must be 1/2 for couple of reasons
08:35 grumd: : you have used similar rhythm before and
08:35 grumd: : imo you have to place a slider start on the downbeat, it's a heavy beat
08:36 grumd: : and after this, just move next slider to the downbeat and extend to 1/1
08:36 SapphireGhost: : I guess so
08:37 SapphireGhost: : Whenever I have to change something in a map it's always tough to make everything fit together again
08:37 grumd: : i know that feel
08:37 grumd: : but please try to
08:37 SapphireGhost: : (4,5,6,1) all line up in a special way so now I have to euahgeuhegha
08:37 grumd: : at least trying is not a big pain
08:37 grumd: : and you probably can find even a better pattern
08:39 grumd: : 01:24:808 (2) - this one is far easier to fix. imo, move this note to 01:25:130 and move the next slider here
08:39 grumd: : uhm, let me screenshot
08:39 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413567
08:39 grumd: : just moving a stack, pretty easy to fix and this rhythm matches the vocals very good
08:40 grumd: : 01:31:558 - hm, i really wish to see a note here
08:42 grumd: : 01:53:094 (7) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413570 placing this note like this flows better with the slider shape imo
08:42 SapphireGhost: : I'm honestly trying to still change the first one
08:43 grumd: : i'm just keeping these all here, check them after you're fone with the first one
08:43 grumd: : *done
08:43 SapphireGhost: : This is making me very sad
08:45 SapphireGhost: : I can't find a good way to change this
08:45 SapphireGhost: : Can I just keep it
08:45 grumd: : wellp, keep it as for now
08:45 grumd: : i will also turn on creativity and try to find some ways for a fix
08:45 grumd: : and show you if i find them
08:46 grumd: : now pls get to other suggestions :3
08:46 SapphireGhost: : I've had to do so much today
08:46 SapphireGhost: : I'm going to fall down a chair
08:46 grumd: : :c
08:46 grumd: : i can savelog and post it so you can find everything later
08:46 SapphireGhost: : nope
08:46 SapphireGhost: : I want to get this over with
08:46 grumd: : oh okay
08:47 SapphireGhost: : I don't have any problems with 01:24:814
08:48 grumd: : 02:05:630 (7,8,9) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413573 try this rearrangement. check the slider serial numbers, number
08:48 grumd: : of repeats for each one and check where the upcoming stream starts
08:49 SapphireGhost: : That wouls make the distance from the end of (9) to (1) too high
08:49 SapphireGhost: : And if I change (1) and stuff then I have to change all this other stuff
08:49 SapphireGhost: : And then stuff is ad
08:50 grumd: : kk
08:50 grumd: : just suggesting
08:51 grumd: : 02:22:558 (1) - hm, i feel that the rhythm is a bit wrong. try this, it matches the vocals and the guitar both o3o
08:51 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413578 (also a notbad idea for a pattern)
08:53 SapphireGhost: : Doesn't that end a slider on a big white tick
08:53 SapphireGhost: : I thought you didn't like that
08:53 grumd: : it fits here
08:54 grumd: : just listen to it, ticks don't really matter when everything sounds cool. but when it doesnt, ticks are a very good
08:54 grumd: : explanation why xD
08:56 grumd: : 04:31:343 - hm, i never liked how people start sliders on a finishing sound.. slider is not a note and you shouldn't
08:56 grumd: : press anything to start it.. so it's like missing a note for me. try to do this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413585
08:58 SapphireGhost: : Then I won't have 1069 objects anymore
08:58 grumd: : ._.
08:58 SapphireGhost: : Is this note worth it
08:58 grumd: : yes
08:59 grumd: : about the first one.. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413588 this? or probably ctrl+R short slider
08:59 grumd: : and also probably stack the middle of the long slider with (4)
08:59 SapphireGhost: : I don't have that (5,6) stuff anywhere else in the map so I'd rather not do that
09:01 SapphireGhost: : Can I upload this now
09:01 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413590 this is quite stupid but lol.. stacked with (4) end
09:01 SapphireGhost: : ahh too much weird stuff
09:01 SapphireGhost: : Maybe I'll put this in a Brett Domino map
09:02 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413594 eeh this?
09:02 grumd: : looks good (you'll have to move (4,5,6,7) a bit to the right to avoid offscreen slider end
09:02 SapphireGhost: : Same thing about that not being anywhere else in the map
09:03 grumd: : 00:52:237 (2,3) - quite similar
09:03 grumd: : just ctrl+r'd
09:04 SapphireGhost: : But it's not the same!
09:05 grumd: : kk..
09:05 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413600 i guess this is also too unique?
09:05 grumd: : 00:59:951 (4,5,1,2) - but hmm
09:06 grumd: : 01:14:951 (4,5) - or like this
09:06 SapphireGhost: : Is this superduper important to you for some reason
09:06 grumd: : it is
09:07 grumd: : if it was my map, i'd fight till the end
09:07 grumd: : and almost every map i mod is like my own too
09:07 grumd: : i care about it's improvement like if it was my map you know
09:07 SapphireGhost: : If this is the last thing I have to change then I'll do it
09:08 grumd: : the last one, yup
09:09 grumd: : what way to fix have you choosen?
09:10 grumd: : 04:00:057 (1,2) - btw, you have never done this in any other place in this map
09:10 grumd: : so if you're so critical with outstanding patterns...
09:11 SapphireGhost: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413604 This is the only thing I could think of that could fit in stuff
09:11 grumd: : well, pretty good looking i think
09:11 SapphireGhost: : I've decided not to care anymore
09:11 SapphireGhost: : Well, not that
09:11 SapphireGhost: : It depends on what sort of thing it is
09:11 SapphireGhost: : If you asked me to put a note under a slider I would die
09:12 grumd: : lol
09:12 grumd: : do not die pls
09:12 grumd: : but you know
09:12 grumd: : http://puu.sh/YV2r
09:12 SapphireGhost: : Apparently everyone hates that
09:13 SapphireGhost: : Oh it's offcentre by two pixels
09:13 SapphireGhost: : Anyway
09:13 SapphireGhost: : Can I please be done with this
09:14 grumd: : i've seen offcenter by ~8 pixels but thought you dont care o/o
09:14 grumd: : o.o
09:14 SapphireGhost: : kill everything ever and eat it
09:14 grumd: : if you want, i can check nazi stuff too
09:14 SapphireGhost: : I'm going to upload this now
09:14 grumd: : well, you have no limits for updates so do it lol
09:15 grumd: : you anyway can upload once more in a few minutes, dont you?
09:15 SapphireGhost: : Are you going to make me upload it again
09:15 grumd: : 00:24:487 (1) - ~1-2 pixels off
09:15 grumd: : if you care of such stuff :3
09:16 SapphireGhost: : No because it looks fine
09:16 SapphireGhost: : If you want to post this log I'll give you kudosu for it
09:16 SapphireGhost: : Because I'd like to do something else nowwww
09:17 grumd: : kk i'm fine with some pixels stuff so savelogging

NatsumeRin wrote:

I strongly suggest to use 1.2 or even less SV... it looks like... too crazy (though the map is crazy as hell too)

Taiko Guidelines wrote:

The Slider Velocity should be 1.40 or 1.60.
I still agree that current 1.4 SV looks kinda Hard-Rocked, but 1.2 is too low imo. Yes, this song is outstanding, 280bpm and stuff, so we can break guidelines, but I suggest 1.3 SV - it looks just as every usual taiko map (1/4's overlap slightly)
NatsumeRin
This may be a little hard to decide. If possible i'd like to hear more opinions about the SV in taiko. My opinion is based on this:
Scroll Speed: 280BPM+1.2SV>200BPM+1.6SV>280BPM+1.1SV
We'll consider 200 as a high BPM anyway and 1.6 is the upper limit in usual guideline.

emm anyway i think it'd be better to hear more pro guys' voices.
DaxMasterix
Yeah.. 1,40 is good but is an abuse with that BPM... In a normal map (like 140 - 180 BPM the notorious ''Change'' is in 1,50 - 1,60) here with 280 is in 1,0 - 1,1.. ..
Cristian

NatsumeRin wrote:

[Kuri's Taiko Oni]
I strongly suggest to use 1.2 or even less SV... it looks like... too crazy (though the map is crazy as hell too) Let's keep it for the moment.
02:50:415 (2) - move 1/1 later? I dunno about this
02:53:630 (2) - ^ I dunno about this
http://puu.sh/ZypR
All changed, thank you!
DaxMasterix
MOARR (╯°□°)╯
go sappha go
NatsumeRin
...and that's all lol. Bubble #1.

well, to the next MAT/BAT: I hope you could make sure the slider velocity (aka, scroll speed) thing with some taiko pro if you can't do it yourself, i failed to convince Kuri about that.
Jenny
Remind me of this post later on.
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
0.0
Kawayi Rika
Pretty Cool Map ~!

Bubble #2


Topic Starter
SapphireGhost

Kawayi Rika wrote:

Pretty Cool Map ~!

Bubble #2


+13 SP! Thank you very much.
Andrea
This is pretty cool, good job.

Approved~
Mercurial
Congratz in your 1 hour approval :D

Nice map anyway.
YTYuyu
YES finally~. i've been waiting for this to get apped. congratz ;)
Topic Starter
SapphireGhost

Mercurial wrote:

Congratz in your 1 hour approval :D

Nice map anyway.
Actually, I really have no idea how this happened.
Andrea
I was just bored :3
Mercurial
Just saying, I'm not blaming or flaming against anyone.

5 months is enough :3
haha5957
What's the problem with it :3 congratz, that's all we should say :-D

congratz~ :)
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