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A corrupt group of BATs are attempting to take over the osu! community. Find them before it's too late.
Day 1 begins. Deadline is in 5 days. With 18 players it's 10 votes to hammer.
I suck at storytelling, ok
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A corrupt group of BATs are attempting to take over the osu! community. Find them before it's too late.
Day 1 begins. Deadline is in 5 days. With 18 players it's 10 votes to hammer.
I suck at storytelling, ok
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Hey guys. RQS time?
Some questions for you guys:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
My answers:
1) Any role/faction with communication with others. It's fun to discuss tactics with someone else.
2) Yes if they are lurking or purpose, or if we have nothing else to go on.
3) No. Meta changes per game. (Some people though have consistent meta - in these cases, I'm fine using it as supporting evidence.)
4) Once per two days at the very least.
Some questions for you guys:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
My answers:
1) Any role/faction with communication with others. It's fun to discuss tactics with someone else.
2) Yes if they are lurking or purpose, or if we have nothing else to go on.
3) No. Meta changes per game. (Some people though have consistent meta - in these cases, I'm fine using it as supporting evidence.)
4) Once per two days at the very least.
Oh and RVS time.
Vote: bmin11 for confirming after the mod declared Day 1.
Vote: bmin11 for confirming after the mod declared Day 1.
Same questions again? I think we've already answered these before but oh well
Some questions for you guys:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why? I don't have a particular favourites anymore. I found each side has it's own difficulty and fun.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers? They often happen to be mafias or some bad independents. This is from my meta experience though.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool? Not sure. For example, we can't just blindly assume animask as a reckless (and confused) townie on every game.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread? When ever I figure out something. I can't promise a constent pace of posting really.
Some questions for you guys:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why? I don't have a particular favourites anymore. I found each side has it's own difficulty and fun.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers? They often happen to be mafias or some bad independents. This is from my meta experience though.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool? Not sure. For example, we can't just blindly assume animask as a reckless (and confused) townie on every game.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread? When ever I figure out something. I can't promise a constent pace of posting really.
Oh look, a "random" vote. I'll humor you, though.
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
anything with night kill immunity because I die night 1 every game even as mafia
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
sometimes
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
yes
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
a lot
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
anything with night kill immunity because I die night 1 every game even as mafia
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
sometimes
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
yes
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
a lot
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
Two, because I wouldn't have to worry about anything past night 1.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
I'm up for lynching everybody.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
It's hard to avoid but I try not to use it as a basis for anything.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
Whenever I feel like it.
Two, because I wouldn't have to worry about anything past night 1.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
I'm up for lynching everybody.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
It's hard to avoid but I try not to use it as a basis for anything.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
Whenever I feel like it.
blaaargh damn you RQS
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
Anything that can kill.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Maybe at day 1, but later you need to look at people's posts even if there are very few of them.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
Short answer yes, long answer eeeeeeeeeeh, yeah maybe.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
Whenever I have some input to give.
Vote NoHItter for making me answer these questions
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
Anything that can kill.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Maybe at day 1, but later you need to look at people's posts even if there are very few of them.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
Short answer yes, long answer eeeeeeeeeeh, yeah maybe.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
Whenever I have some input to give.
Vote NoHItter for making me answer these questions
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
Probably independent. Usually have more success actually getting something done rather than be held back by the weaker players if I was mafia or town.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Depends if there's no obvious choice on who should be lynched.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
Yes, meta in the most part always is hard to change unless you're purposefully changing your tactics for a reason.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
Varies. Whenever I need to most likely.
Probably independent. Usually have more success actually getting something done rather than be held back by the weaker players if I was mafia or town.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Depends if there's no obvious choice on who should be lynched.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
Yes, meta in the most part always is hard to change unless you're purposefully changing your tactics for a reason.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
Varies. Whenever I need to most likely.
Some questions for you guys:1.Non-essential Aux. Gambits are fun, and it allows me freedom to do mostly whatever I want.
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
2. Occasionally, but only if they're the only person I really see as suspicious.
3. Yes. However, it's not always effective.
4. Whenever I have something to say.
you can find the answers to these questions in every other mafia game i've played in the past month.
If thats too difficult I'll go copy and paste them here lol
If thats too difficult I'll go copy and paste them here lol
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
I think I prefer being Mafia, mainly just because being the bad guy us always more fun.
.. oh, and overpowered aux roles regardless of faction, I like those too.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Only if there isn't anyone better to place a vote on, otherwise no.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
Of course.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
As often as there is stuff to reply to.
I think I prefer being Mafia, mainly just because being the bad guy us always more fun.
.. oh, and overpowered aux roles regardless of faction, I like those too.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Only if there isn't anyone better to place a vote on, otherwise no.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
Of course.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
As often as there is stuff to reply to.
pieguy1372 wrote:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
Town, because when I'm mafia I suck at hiding it (see last game I was in)
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
That depends on whether the active people are suspicious. If they aren't, I'm for it because it's more likely the lurkers are mafia.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
Generally it can be used nicely, but some people do strange things thus making it not work.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
Whenever I have something to say~
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
I always wanted to be a Jester, but I have never got that role in any mafia game. That role sounds SO fun.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Perhaps.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
It works sometimes, sometimes not.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
I'll try to be as active as possible. Maybe not everyday, but I'll be avoiding prods.
I always wanted to be a Jester, but I have never got that role in any mafia game. That role sounds SO fun.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Perhaps.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
It works sometimes, sometimes not.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
I'll try to be as active as possible. Maybe not everyday, but I'll be avoiding prods.
1. Informed town- such as cop or mason, I like knowing for sure I have at least one person I can trust.
2. If there's absolutely nothing better to go on.
3. It's seems hard to use, but if you absolutely know the trends of a player, go for it.
4. At least once per day, usually more.
2. If there's absolutely nothing better to go on.
3. It's seems hard to use, but if you absolutely know the trends of a player, go for it.
4. At least once per day, usually more.
Whenever someone does something unusual.
Some questions for you guys:1. Town with a role that doesn't require guessing who should be targeted. I was doctor once and I hated it.
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
2. If no one else looks viable enough to lynch.
3. Sometimes, but not used as a crutch for an argument.
4. When there's something I feel the need to reply to.
Also, I really don't think RQS works that well as it just people responding to questions and getting quiet.
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
So far I think I like being a townie mason. It gives me a chance to do something
risky if needed. Also, the risk isn't high unless I get modkilled by role claiming.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Only if there's a good reason to... like nobody else seems more suspicious.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
As scum hunting, no. I use meta to find out a person's behavior rather than suspicion.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
About once a day and it also depends on my interest.
So far I think I like being a townie mason. It gives me a chance to do something
risky if needed. Also, the risk isn't high unless I get modkilled by role claiming.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Only if there's a good reason to... like nobody else seems more suspicious.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
As scum hunting, no. I use meta to find out a person's behavior rather than suspicion.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
About once a day and it also depends on my interest.
Haneii wrote:
1) I value information so probably roles like mason, stalker, cop, mafia etc...NoHItter wrote:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
2) Depends heavily on the situation + I haven't played many mafia games/been put into a position where I felt like voting a lurker. As of right now, my answer is no. I don't think I'd be up to lynching lurkers
3)I don't think it's a good idea, borderline pointless. However I'm still new to this game so I might be a bit bias (ie: I have yet to see it help)
4)Hopefully once a day
Is that a random vote, or do you have an actual reason for that?
BOO!Mashley wrote:
Whenever someone does something unusual.
You do know guys that the last question was asking for a definitive answer?
Not a "if X happens" answer.
I wanted to know how active you guys could be. Many games die out because people get inactive.
Not a "if X happens" answer.
I wanted to know how active you guys could be. Many games die out because people get inactive.
I don't know how active I can be. I can promise you that I won't be here on 29th and 30th.
Can we stop talking about pointless conversation killers like NoHItter's questions and whether or not this game is active (ironic)?
I am actually going to roleclaim now, not that my role was much of a secret. Roleclaim: Quaraezha
I'm roleclaiming because I want day 1 to actually be productive and because I also almost have to roleclaim. I have two post restrictions:
1. I have to write in this font
2. I can only post 3 times per day
I was hoping the thread would be active enough for me to be able to not post and then get called out for it, but I guess you all just suck at being town. Hint: getting people to talk wins games.
My role is horrible but, if I had to guess it's purpose, I assume it's so that there can be a confirmed town day 1 (from font). I don't think it actually does what it was made to do, but I can't imagine why else it would be so retarded.
I obviously can't post again until I want to cast my final vote, so stop sucking please.
I am actually going to roleclaim now, not that my role was much of a secret. Roleclaim: Quaraezha
I'm roleclaiming because I want day 1 to actually be productive and because I also almost have to roleclaim. I have two post restrictions:
1. I have to write in this font
2. I can only post 3 times per day
I was hoping the thread would be active enough for me to be able to not post and then get called out for it, but I guess you all just suck at being town. Hint: getting people to talk wins games.
My role is horrible but, if I had to guess it's purpose, I assume it's so that there can be a confirmed town day 1 (from font). I don't think it actually does what it was made to do, but I can't imagine why else it would be so retarded.
I obviously can't post again until I want to cast my final vote, so stop sucking please.
And thus, question time comes to its stunning conclusion.
Vote: NoHItter
Bandwagon time.
Vote: NoHItter
Bandwagon time.
screw it, tired of your lurking (I see you lurking too bmin)
vote: DeathxShinigami
vote: DeathxShinigami
Though, I'm just going to honestly say this now...I have nothing to do with bmin for once.
Wish you fun~
Wish you fun~
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one around here >_>
I never get how D1 starts out honestly. It just seems... like waiting for someone to do something stupidly suspicious. Maybe animask was being helpful in that matter I guess.
I have questions too.
1. How many BAT do you think are around here?
2. Opinions on No Lynch for D1?
I never get how D1 starts out honestly. It just seems... like waiting for someone to do something stupidly suspicious. Maybe animask was being helpful in that matter I guess.
I have questions too.
1. How many BAT do you think are around here?
2. Opinions on No Lynch for D1?
1. I don't see how this is important unless you're following the flavor/ part of your role.bmin11 wrote:
1. How many BAT do you think are around here?
2. Opinions on No Lynch for D1?
2. No lynch is a no-no. We need lynch information D1 in a regular set-up. The only set-up I think a No-Lynch is better than a lynch is in Dethy.
OK. Now switching back to my question.
FoS: Chris
For answering Mafia in my Question 1.Chris wrote:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
I think I prefer being Mafia, mainly just because being the bad guy us always more fun.
The problem with saying you want to play Mafia in a PyP game is that you actually may pick someone which would probably turn up as Mafia.(Perhaps strager or Dimka)
In a regular PyP game where the mod assigns stuff randomly, it would be less suspicious (mod can assign a town role to a suspicious character), but this PyP has a theme - which is the osu! community. Chances are, the bad guy roles would be those hated/have done something bad. Those who are aiming for Mafia would generally pick those.
Any reason in specific? It helps when you explain your reasoning. Otherwise one might think you're just finding someone to lynch.NoHItter wrote:
FoS: Chris
A PyP game like this allows you to influence the role you will get.
Chris wanted a Mafia role, chances are he sent a member that has a high chance to be a mafia role.
Hence the FoS.
Chris wanted a Mafia role, chances are he sent a member that has a high chance to be a mafia role.
Hence the FoS.
That is actually pretty clever how you pieced that together, I must admit.NoHItter wrote:
FoS: ChrisFor answering Mafia in my Question 1.Chris wrote:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
I think I prefer being Mafia, mainly just because being the bad guy us always more fun.
The problem with saying you want to play Mafia in a PyP game is that you actually may pick someone which would probably turn up as Mafia.(Perhaps strager or Dimka)
In a regular PyP game where the mod assigns stuff randomly, it would be less suspicious (mod can assign a town role to a suspicious character), but this PyP has a theme - which is the osu! community. Chances are, the bad guy roles would be those hated/have done something bad. Those who are aiming for Mafia would generally pick those.
.. however, I can assure you that I am far too inactive to know who classifies under bad or good.
Let's be real here though, I got my role before I answered those questions. I doubt anyone would incriminate themselves on purpose.
But...NoHItter wrote:
OK. Now switching back to my question.
FoS: ChrisFor answering Mafia in my Question 1.Chris wrote:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
I think I prefer being Mafia, mainly just because being the bad guy us always more fun.
The problem with saying you want to play Mafia in a PyP game is that you actually may pick someone which would probably turn up as Mafia.(Perhaps strager or Dimka)
In a regular PyP game where the mod assigns stuff randomly, it would be less suspicious (mod can assign a town role to a suspicious character), but this PyP has a theme - which is the osu! community. Chances are, the bad guy roles would be those hated/have done something bad. Those who are aiming for Mafia would generally pick those.
Even if he did it wouldn't help him because in this game (apparently) the mafia is made up of BATs. He'd have to know that it advance and choose BATs if he wanted to be mafia...umm, right?. I'm sure chris isn't the only one to mention he'd like to be mafia so why did you choose him?0_o wrote:
A corrupt group of BATs are attempting to take over the osu! community. Find them before it's too late.
A bit of effort trying to justify your fos vs it being random....
what are you planning up to? o.o
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When TWO says he can only post 3 times a day, does he mean mafia day or once every 24 hours?
Based on this:Haneii wrote:
When TWO says he can only post 3 times a day, does he mean mafia day or once every 24 hours?
It seems like it's once per mafia day. At which point I question spending his last post and only vote on a lurker...Two wrote:
I obviously can't post again until I want to cast my final vote, so stop sucking please.
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Speculating about the setup and implying a no lynch seems like you're trying to sidetrack the town from actually doing anything day 1. Vote: bmin11bmin11 wrote:
I have questions too.
1. How many BAT do you think are around here?
2. Opinions on No Lynch for D1?
While I also think a no lynch is bad, speculating about the setup can help town get a better idea of the setup and since mafia would already know the setup it wouldn't make sense for them to wonder about it.akrolsmir wrote:
Speculating about the setup and implying a no lynch seems like you're trying to sidetrack the town from actually doing anything day
Topic Starter
Vote Count
NoHItter (2) - Mashley, adam2046
DxS (2) - Chris, Two
bmin11 (2) - NoHItter, akrolsmir
Two (1) - Wojjan
~3 days remaining
NoHItter (2) - Mashley, adam2046
DxS (2) - Chris, Two
bmin11 (2) - NoHItter, akrolsmir
Two (1) - Wojjan
~3 days remaining
I guess I should go back lurking since asking a question is clearly a scum-tell in this game >_>
Vote: Wojjan
for voting for 99.9% confirmed town
for voting for 99.9% confirmed town
@Haneii
Chris was the only one who blatantly stated he wanted to play as Mafia.
The rest merely stated having Killing Powers, being more informed. These don't necessarily mean being Mafia.
Though I have to admit that my reasoning may be skewed by the flavor at the start, but if one lets say, still picks a known troublemaker, would he still get an anti-town role? I believe so.
This may be set-up spec, but it still makes sense.
Also, the problem with that logic is if you did realize what I was planning before I said it.
Chris was the only one who blatantly stated he wanted to play as Mafia.
The rest merely stated having Killing Powers, being more informed. These don't necessarily mean being Mafia.
Though I have to admit that my reasoning may be skewed by the flavor at the start, but if one lets say, still picks a known troublemaker, would he still get an anti-town role? I believe so.
This may be set-up spec, but it still makes sense.
That is WIFOM.Chris wrote:
Let's be real here though, I got my role before I answered those questions. I doubt anyone would incriminate themselves on purpose.
Also, the problem with that logic is if you did realize what I was planning before I said it.
Is this serious >.>foulcoon wrote:
Vote: Wojjan
for voting for 99.9% confirmed town
I'm feeling it's RVS.
That vote was on there much before Two even claimed.
a bit too late to start with that. vote harder.
vote: akrolsmr or whatever. Votes bmin for bullshit reasoning.
a bit too late to start with that. vote harder.
vote: akrolsmr or whatever. Votes bmin for bullshit reasoning.
Where's Lilac and Rantai, by the way? It seems they didn't even confirm at all.
Lilac just came back (sleeping probably) and Rantai should be back any time soon as well.
Ah, sorry - silly me.
Your entire plan was to see who said they enjoyed playing as the bad guy? Sounds like crap.NoHItter wrote:
That is WIFOM.
Also, the problem with that logic is if you did realize what I was planning before I said it.
It makes no difference what you claim you were planning to do regardless.
There is no logical reason under any circumstance for someone to openly admit that they enjoy being the bad guy, assuming they just got their role-PM and it turned out they were indeed Mafia.
Just out of curiosity, who would these "bad guys" be that you would of sent in, assuming you wanted to be mafia?
Way to ignore the rest of my post, though.
You could choose someone that has the potential of being mafia in the setup and still obtain a town role. Also, not everyone will pick based on trying to get certain roles, instead picking the people they like in the community and just going with the role they get.
In a normal PyP your strategy can somewhat work if two conditions are true:
1. You haven't done this strategy before. (If you have, people may not tell the truth.)
2. Assuming you haven't done this before, everyone would have to be telling the truth in the questions you asked.
In this PyP, there are even more things that make the strategy less likely to succeed.
In a normal PyP your strategy can somewhat work if two conditions are true:
1. You haven't done this strategy before. (If you have, people may not tell the truth.)
2. Assuming you haven't done this before, everyone would have to be telling the truth in the questions you asked.
In this PyP, there are even more things that make the strategy less likely to succeed.
There is no reason to call suspicion onto this in the first place. Yes the question is useless, but it's not going to make any difference what you prefer to play as because no one chose their alignment. There was never any indication before the game began of what choices would get a mafia role, and what's more we had to give three choices, so it's almost completely up to chance unless someone picks 3 BATs - in which case it still doesn't make a difference as no one knew that all the mafia would be BATs.Chris wrote:
There is no logical reason under any circumstance for someone to openly admit that they enjoy being the bad guy, assuming they just got their role-PM and it turned out they were indeed Mafia.
On the top of my head, people who I think may turn up as scum.
1) strager (Sorry if you are watching this
)
2) Robloxman41
3)WeegeeVsWeegee Esupanitix
Yes. You did not choose your alignment, but if you really wanted a certain role, you can influence what role you may get.
That's why I find it suspicious. I didn't say we have to lynch them did we?
1) strager (Sorry if you are watching this
)2) Robloxman41
3)
Yes. You did not choose your alignment, but if you really wanted a certain role, you can influence what role you may get.
That's why I find it suspicious. I didn't say we have to lynch them did we?
0_o wrote:
A corrupt group of BATs are attempting to take over the osu! community. Find them before it's too late.
What do you suppose the names I gave you will be then?
Also,
Mod: How do you select preference over the 1st choice, etc?
Also,
Mod: How do you select preference over the 1st choice, etc?
In regards to your questions: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=975713#p975713 No change.
I must say there is a lot of straw grabbing going on. Personally I don't think Chris did anything scummy enough to warrant an FoS so I'm not sure what you're aiming at.
Also
But yeah an unfounded suspicion in my opinion. "He wants to be" doesn't always mean "He will be" especially with the whole BAT mix up.
I must say there is a lot of straw grabbing going on. Personally I don't think Chris did anything scummy enough to warrant an FoS so I'm not sure what you're aiming at.
Also
How is that relevant to BATs?NoHItter wrote:
What do you suppose the names I gave you will be then?
But yeah an unfounded suspicion in my opinion. "He wants to be" doesn't always mean "He will be" especially with the whole BAT mix up.
Hi hi guys.
At first, I also thought that certain people who choose BATs would be mafia but I don't think reading into that statement "a corrupt group of BATs" is very useful unless a person claims a person that they chose or whatnot.
What I'm saying is, it just might not be BATs who are Mafia. If you really want to look at it that way and all BATs are Mafia, more than likely Chris will be town but I'm fairly certain he got something that isn't part of the mafia.
For me, the player pool is too big and more than likely I wouldn't want a lynch unless someone does something either really stupid or really scummy.
Alternatively, I can use meta. However, this type of mafia has made is semi-redundant.
At first, I also thought that certain people who choose BATs would be mafia but I don't think reading into that statement "a corrupt group of BATs" is very useful unless a person claims a person that they chose or whatnot.
What I'm saying is, it just might not be BATs who are Mafia. If you really want to look at it that way and all BATs are Mafia, more than likely Chris will be town but I'm fairly certain he got something that isn't part of the mafia.
For me, the player pool is too big and more than likely I wouldn't want a lynch unless someone does something either really stupid or really scummy.
Alternatively, I can use meta. However, this type of mafia has made is semi-redundant.
Forget it.
I was trying to say that even if the flavor indicates that the BATs are the scum, certain people like what I mentioned earlier could still be anti-town roles as I don't believe that they'll be classified as town roles either.
So if you picked strager, I believe your role would still be anti-town.
I was trying to say that even if the flavor indicates that the BATs are the scum, certain people like what I mentioned earlier could still be anti-town roles as I don't believe that they'll be classified as town roles either.
So if you picked strager, I believe your role would still be anti-town.
actually Vote: NoHitter
This entire charade has gone on long enough really. Your questions were terrible conversation-starters, and nothing more than that, and voting based on that single question is either bad play or bad scumplay. As everyone has been stating there are far too much holes in your explanation (How did Chris know which people to send in to get scum? Why do you assume Chris actually receiving a role he likes to play? Why do you assume Non-BATs to still be scum when the opening post was adamant in identifying the BATs as mafia? There's probably more other people have stated) and even so there's the strange singling out on Chris you're doing. DxS answered "Independant" which at worst is killer/cult and at best a survivor and even they can joint with mafia. Mashley responded with "Anything that can kill." You're focusing so much on Chris that you're starting to look like a lyncher or something.
This entire charade has gone on long enough really. Your questions were terrible conversation-starters, and nothing more than that, and voting based on that single question is either bad play or bad scumplay. As everyone has been stating there are far too much holes in your explanation (How did Chris know which people to send in to get scum? Why do you assume Chris actually receiving a role he likes to play? Why do you assume Non-BATs to still be scum when the opening post was adamant in identifying the BATs as mafia? There's probably more other people have stated) and even so there's the strange singling out on Chris you're doing. DxS answered "Independant" which at worst is killer/cult and at best a survivor and even they can joint with mafia. Mashley responded with "Anything that can kill." You're focusing so much on Chris that you're starting to look like a lyncher or something.
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Priority-wise, we treated all three choices as equal. The roles picked were decided mostly by the best role we could come up with out of your selections (while still keeping balance).NoHItter wrote:
Mod: How do you select preference over the 1st choice, etc?
On the top of my head - known troublemakers. The entire corrupt BATs flavor may have not fit his initial intention, but (look two quotes below)Wojjan wrote:
How did Chris know which people to send in to get scum?
I didn't. I said he MAY have a chance to receive a role which he actually likes - which is scum.Wojjan wrote:
Why do you assume Chris actually receiving a role he likes to play?
I never said he did get it. At most, I said he could have influenced the roles he wanted.
Tell me then, what do you perceive those I've mentioned as? Townies?Wojjan wrote:
Why do you assume Non-BATs to still be scum when the opening post was adamant in identifying the BATs as mafia?
The problem with DxS is, unlike with picking scum, picking an independent role is harder to influence.Wojjan wrote:
and even so there's the strange singling out on Chris you're doing. DxS answered "Independant" which at worst is killer/cult and at best a survivor and even they can joint with mafia.
"Anything that can kill" can also be a Vig. Not to mention getting specific action roles may be difficult.Wojjan wrote:
Mashley responded with "Anything that can kill." You're focusing so much on Chris that you're starting to look like a lyncher or something
Incidentally, Unvote
We're out of RVS now.
inb4 EphemeralWojjan wrote:
you're starting to look like a lyncher or something
I feel like Ephemeral could get a role like Valhalla-er. Like a Doctor/Guardian Angel, he preserves epic threads with a lock and Valhalla lol.
So, you're focused on avoiding scum-tells? That seems suspicious to me.bmin11 wrote:
I guess I should go back lurking since asking a question is clearly a scum-tell in this game >_>
However, I'll vote akrolsmir. I can't explain it, just a gut feeling >.<
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Vote Count
NoHItter (3) - Mashley, adam2046, Wojjan
DxS (2) - Chris, Two
bmin11 (1) - akrolsmir
akrolsmir (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - foulcoon
Due to my schedule I am extending the deadline to 48 hours from this post.
NoHItter (3) - Mashley, adam2046, Wojjan
DxS (2) - Chris, Two
bmin11 (1) - akrolsmir
akrolsmir (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - foulcoon
Due to my schedule I am extending the deadline to 48 hours from this post.
Yes. IF those roles were actually picked, I can see strager being a miller, Roblox can be a noob and as such vanilla town, I don't know Esupantrix. If we're not only going to guess who Chris picked, but also guess what his persumed pick got him as role, then it might be more efficient to just outright asking for a claim. Which I'm sure you'll agree is a bad idea.NoHItter wrote:
Tell me then, what do you perceive those I've mentioned as? Townies?
You're also completely avoiding the fact that it's equally hard to gun for mafia if you don't know the flavor and have to send in three roles.
Then why did you FOS him over it? If you're suspicious of him (which the S in FOS means) you must be either considering or assuming he's mafia or otherwise anti-town.NoHItter wrote:
I didn't. I said he MAY have a chance to receive a role which he actually likes - which is scum.
I never said he did get it. At most, I said he could have influenced the roles he wanted.
NoHitter unvoted just so you know.
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Thanks, fixed.rust45 wrote:
NoHitter unvoted just so you know.
Why are you voting someone (who has said barely anything interesting) on gut feeling when you just said you find someone suspicious?pieguy1372 wrote:
However, I'll vote akrolsmir. I can't explain it, just a gut feeling >.<
Because that's what I always do on the first day unless it's painfully obvious. While I find what bmin11 did suspicious, I have a gut feeling he's not mafia.adam2046 wrote:
Why are you voting someone (who has said barely anything interesting) on gut feeling when you just said you find someone suspicious?pieguy1372 wrote:
However, I'll vote akrolsmir. I can't explain it, just a gut feeling >.<
I just found it funny how the two people who asked questions (NoHItter and me) got voted on. I didn't take it seriously at all.
I won't be able to post for a day or two. Got a flight to Canada.
I won't be able to post for a day or two. Got a flight to Canada.
It's not just about asking questions, it's also about the content of the questions- the ones you chose seem to be delaying tactics rather than something designed to get content. Filler, so to speak.
Also, claiming that you didn't care about those questions doesn't really alleviate my suspicions.
Also, claiming that you didn't care about those questions doesn't really alleviate my suspicions.
NoHItter asking questions doesn't make him mafia or town. He did it last game and he was town, so given that that's his strategy as town the optimal mafia strategy would be to mimic it, since it doesn't really directly harm any mafia members...
In other words, NoHItter asking questions dosen't give us any more information.
In other words, NoHItter asking questions dosen't give us any more information.
The difference is in how NoHItter uses those questions he had us answer. That does indeed give us information, though what that information means varies from person to person.pieguy1372 wrote:
NoHItter asking questions doesn't make him mafia or town. He did it last game and he was town, so given that that's his strategy as town the optimal mafia strategy would be to mimic it, since it doesn't really directly harm any mafia members...
In other words, NoHItter asking questions dosen't give us any more information.
True that the entire BAT thing was unexpected, but my argument was based on picking the known troublemakers who I didn't think someone would think be town. Fine, I concede the point.Wojjan wrote:
You're also completely avoiding the fact that it's equally hard to gun for mafia if you don't know the flavor and have to send in three roles.
unFoS: Chris but that's based on set-up speculation only.
Perhaps I used FoS in the wrong sense in regards to what you perceive of it. I use FoS when I think someone does something suspicious. It does not mean that I think that person is necessarily scum or anti-town. I think a better term would be IGMEOY. So yes I did find Chris suspicious at that time - based on my reasoning.Wojjan wrote:
Then why did you FOS him over it? If you're suspicious of him (which the S in FOS means) you must be either considering or assuming he's mafia or otherwise anti-town.
Will make a post of my thoughts regarding everyone soon.
Posting from the airport
I can't fully explain at the moment due to the lack of time I have, but I can't see how these could possibly disbenefit townies.
Speculating about the setupAs rust45 said, this can't be a bad info for us. Is there any kind of anti-town roles who would be interested on how many mafias would there be?
and implying a no lynch seems like you're trying to sidetrack the town from actually doing anything day 1.There was nothing going on at the moment. I wanted to start a discussion with this question. I also don't agree with No Lynch, but by discussing this matter, I was hoping someone could come up with possible tactics and such.
I can't fully explain at the moment due to the lack of time I have, but I can't see how these could possibly disbenefit townies.
Okay, we'll do it bmin's way.
Vote: DxS. Talk.
Vote: DxS. Talk.
I'm thinking a Serial Killer might benefit from such information.bmin11 wrote:
As rust45 said, this can't be a bad info for us. Is there any kind of anti-town roles who would be interested on how many mafias would there be?
Or he could have been asking a question in order to fill in some gaps of his own. Take the first one, he easily could have just been asking how many mafia does a typical game of this size have.akrolsmir wrote:
It's not just about asking questions, it's also about the content of the questions- the ones you chose seem to be delaying tactics rather than something designed to get content. Filler, so to speak.
Also, claiming that you didn't care about those questions doesn't really alleviate my suspicions.
This again really?Lilac wrote:
Vote: DxS. Talk.
I'm just going to say I'm pro town for now but if I really had useful thoughts or ideas I'd say them sheesh.
Unvote, vote NoHItter. His questions were just pointless, it seems almost as if he intended from the start to call someone out on their answers for no good reason. And then as soon as soon as others start questioning him he completely changes his mind about everything. Maybe he just hadn't though his argument through well enough, but the day is nearly over and he's the most suspicious person atm.
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Vote Count
DxS (3) - Chris, Two, Lilac
NoHItter (3) - adam2046, Wojjan, Mashley
bmin11 (1) - akrolsmir
akrolsmir (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - foulcoon
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DxS (3) - Chris, Two, Lilac
NoHItter (3) - adam2046, Wojjan, Mashley
bmin11 (1) - akrolsmir
akrolsmir (1) - pieguy1372
Wojjan (1) - foulcoon
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yeah bmin's town as shit I don't even know why akro is still fighting that point.
Okay fine, I'm convinced. Unvote, FoS DxS try again, harder. Are you really that bad/disinterested in helping town?
Does anyone knows what happened to animask by any chance?
bmin's got a point. There's someone else again whose even more inactive than me...
Doesn't necessarily makes you an active player though >_<... You guys both need to post your thoughts for the least.
Oh, then that's ok then.DeathxShinigami wrote:
bmin's got a point. There's someone else again whose even more inactive than me...
I have a feeling animask has an excuse for being inactive, such as his role.