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Chris_old
me
bmin11
I'll join if this game doesn't start till September. I got a flight on 30th :<
Two_old
I think it's gonna start tomorrow

how long are flights
bmin11
10 hours, but it will take me a day to get to the place and such
Two_old
That's less than 40% of 1 day, shouldn't be a problem especially if it's night phase
bmin11
k /in
Rantai
In but only if it's ok that I'll be away for 2 days (possibly without an internet connection) on the 26th and 27th of August.
Topic Starter
0_o

Rantai wrote:

In but only if it's ok that I'll be away for 2 days (possibly without an internet connection) on the 26th and 27th of August.
Sure, that's ok.

Also, does anyone have any objections to letting bmin join while not being able to post for all of Day 1?
Two_old

0_o wrote:

Also, does anyone have any objections to letting bmin join while not being able to post for all of Day 1?
???
bmin11
Meant by 24 hours
Topic Starter
0_o
Ohhh my bad, I thought you said you'd be unavailable til September.

disregard that.
bmin11
It would be similar to HNM D3 or something. Remember when I was gone?
Topic Starter
0_o
Yeah that's fine, if it's just a couple days then no big deal.
Mara
I'm in.
NoHitter
/in
Topic Starter
0_o
3 hours left!
Topic Starter
0_o
15 minutes, last chance!
Topic Starter
0_o
SIGNUPS ARE CLOSED, we've got an 18 person game.

Organizing roles with Lyby right now, hopefully we'll have Role PMs out in a few days at most.
Mashley
Please give me the best role ;D
Two_old

Mashley wrote:

Please give me the best role ;D
did you pick me?
Mashley
ohohohohohohoho
no
Two_old
you're gonna be disappointed then
Sleep Powder
Two gets to be the doublevoter~
Topic Starter
0_o
Roles have been decided, writing up Role PMs now. Should be ready to send out in the next few hours.
Mashley
Damnit 0_o stop making me stay up >:(
Topic Starter
0_o
I have one more left to write, but there are a few minor details I want to run past Lyby before sending out the final roles, and he doesn't seem to be online right now. So you'd probably be better off going to bed :P
Topic Starter
0_o
PMs on the way.
DeathxShinigami
Confirming if I need to.
Mara
Same.
LadySuburu
Confirmed
Topic Starter
0_o
Everyone confirm in thread and we'll start this thing.
Two_old
got it
Chris_old
confirmed
Sleep Powder
Confirmed.
akrolsmir
Confirmed.
pieguyn
confirm~
rust45
/confirm
adam2046
Confirm
Haneii
Confirm
NoHitter
/confirm
foulcoon
confirmed
Mashley
Ohoho, confirm
Topic Starter
0_o
Only 3 people left to confirm, we can probably start.
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A corrupt group of BATs are attempting to take over the osu! community. Find them before it's too late.

Day 1 begins. Deadline is in 5 days. With 18 players it's 10 votes to hammer.

I suck at storytelling, ok
bmin11
/Confirm
NoHitter
Hey guys. RQS time?

Some questions for you guys:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?

My answers:

1) Any role/faction with communication with others. It's fun to discuss tactics with someone else.
2) Yes if they are lurking or purpose, or if we have nothing else to go on.
3) No. Meta changes per game. (Some people though have consistent meta - in these cases, I'm fine using it as supporting evidence.)
4) Once per two days at the very least.
NoHitter
Oh and RVS time.
Vote: bmin11 for confirming after the mod declared Day 1. ;)
bmin11
Same questions again? I think we've already answered these before but oh well

Some questions for you guys:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why? I don't have a particular favourites anymore. I found each side has it's own difficulty and fun.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers? They often happen to be mafias or some bad independents. This is from my meta experience though.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool? Not sure. For example, we can't just blindly assume animask as a reckless (and confused) townie on every game.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread? When ever I figure out something. I can't promise a constent pace of posting really.
Two_old
Oh look, a "random" vote. I'll humor you, though.

1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
anything with night kill immunity because I die night 1 every game even as mafia

2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
sometimes

3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
yes

4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
a lot
Wojjan
vote: Two


fuck Quaraezha
adam2046
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
Two, because I wouldn't have to worry about anything past night 1.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
I'm up for lynching everybody.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
It's hard to avoid but I try not to use it as a basis for anything.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
Whenever I feel like it.
Mashley
blaaargh damn you RQS

1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
Anything that can kill.

2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Maybe at day 1, but later you need to look at people's posts even if there are very few of them.

3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
Short answer yes, long answer eeeeeeeeeeh, yeah maybe.

4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
Whenever I have some input to give.

Vote NoHItter for making me answer these questions :P
DeathxShinigami
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
Probably independent. Usually have more success actually getting something done rather than be held back by the weaker players if I was mafia or town.
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
Depends if there's no obvious choice on who should be lynched.
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
Yes, meta in the most part always is hard to change unless you're purposefully changing your tactics for a reason.
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
Varies. Whenever I need to most likely.
LadySuburu
Some questions for you guys:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
1.Non-essential Aux. Gambits are fun, and it allows me freedom to do mostly whatever I want.

2. Occasionally, but only if they're the only person I really see as suspicious.

3. Yes. However, it's not always effective.

4. Whenever I have something to say.
foulcoon
you can find the answers to these questions in every other mafia game i've played in the past month.

If thats too difficult I'll go copy and paste them here lol
Chris_old
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?

I think I prefer being Mafia, mainly just because being the bad guy us always more fun.

.. oh, and overpowered aux roles regardless of faction, I like those too. ;)

2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?


Only if there isn't anyone better to place a vote on, otherwise no.

3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?

Of course.

4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?

As often as there is stuff to reply to.
pieguyn

pieguy1372 wrote:

1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?

Town, because when I'm mafia I suck at hiding it (see last game I was in)

2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?

That depends on whether the active people are suspicious. If they aren't, I'm for it because it's more likely the lurkers are mafia.

3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?

Generally it can be used nicely, but some people do strange things thus making it not work. :?

4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?

Whenever I have something to say~ :)
Mara
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
I always wanted to be a Jester, but I have never got that role in any mafia game. That role sounds SO fun.

2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?

Perhaps.

3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
It works sometimes, sometimes not.

4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
I'll try to be as active as possible. Maybe not everyday, but I'll be avoiding prods.
akrolsmir
1. Informed town- such as cop or mason, I like knowing for sure I have at least one person I can trust.
2. If there's absolutely nothing better to go on.
3. It's seems hard to use, but if you absolutely know the trends of a player, go for it.
4. At least once per day, usually more.
Wojjan
so when is question time over?
Mashley
Whenever someone does something unusual.
rust45
Some questions for you guys:
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
1. Town with a role that doesn't require guessing who should be targeted. I was doctor once and I hated it.

2. If no one else looks viable enough to lynch.

3. Sometimes, but not used as a crutch for an argument.

4. When there's something I feel the need to reply to.

Also, I really don't think RQS works that well as it just people responding to questions and getting quiet.
Sleep Powder
1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?

So far I think I like being a townie mason. It gives me a chance to do something
risky if needed. Also, the risk isn't high unless I get modkilled by role claiming.

2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?


Only if there's a good reason to... like nobody else seems more suspicious.

3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?


As scum hunting, no. I use meta to find out a person's behavior rather than suspicion.

4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?


About once a day and it also depends on my interest.
Haneii

Haneii wrote:

NoHItter wrote:

1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?
2) Are you up for lynching lurkers?
3) Do you believe in using meta as a scumhunting tool?
4) How often do you plan to post in the thread?
1) I value information so probably roles like mason, stalker, cop, mafia etc...
2) Depends heavily on the situation + I haven't played many mafia games/been put into a position where I felt like voting a lurker. As of right now, my answer is no. I don't think I'd be up to lynching lurkers
3)I don't think it's a good idea, borderline pointless. However I'm still new to this game so I might be a bit bias (ie: I have yet to see it help)
4)Hopefully once a day
Chris_old
Vote: DeathxShinigami
Mara
Is that a random vote, or do you have an actual reason for that?
Wojjan

Mashley wrote:

Whenever someone does something unusual.
BOO!
NoHitter
You do know guys that the last question was asking for a definitive answer?
Not a "if X happens" answer.

I wanted to know how active you guys could be. Many games die out because people get inactive.
bmin11
I don't know how active I can be. I can promise you that I won't be here on 29th and 30th.
Wojjan
Hardly any games die from inactivity. At least here.
Two_old
Can we stop talking about pointless conversation killers like NoHItter's questions and whether or not this game is active (ironic)?

I am actually going to roleclaim now, not that my role was much of a secret.
Roleclaim: Quaraezha


I'm roleclaiming because I want day 1 to actually be productive and because I also almost have to roleclaim. I have two post restrictions:

1. I have to write in this font

2. I can only post 3 times per day

I was hoping the thread would be active enough for me to be able to not post and then get called out for it, but I guess you all just suck at being town. Hint: getting people to talk wins games.

My role is horrible but, if I had to guess it's purpose, I assume it's so that there can be a confirmed town day 1 (from font). I don't think it actually does what it was made to do, but I can't imagine why else it would be so retarded.

I obviously can't post again until I want to cast my final vote, so stop sucking please.
adam2046
And thus, question time comes to its stunning conclusion.
Vote: NoHItter
Bandwagon time.
Two_old
screw it, tired of your lurking (I see you lurking too bmin)

vote: DeathxShinigami
DeathxShinigami
Though, I'm just going to honestly say this now...I have nothing to do with bmin for once.

Wish you fun~
bmin11
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one around here >_>
I never get how D1 starts out honestly. It just seems... like waiting for someone to do something stupidly suspicious. Maybe animask was being helpful in that matter I guess.


I have questions too.

1. How many BAT do you think are around here?

2. Opinions on No Lynch for D1?
NoHitter

bmin11 wrote:

1. How many BAT do you think are around here?
2. Opinions on No Lynch for D1?
1. I don't see how this is important unless you're following the flavor/ part of your role.
2. No lynch is a no-no. We need lynch information D1 in a regular set-up. The only set-up I think a No-Lynch is better than a lynch is in Dethy.

OK. Now switching back to my question.
FoS: Chris

Chris wrote:

1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?

I think I prefer being Mafia, mainly just because being the bad guy us always more fun.
For answering Mafia in my Question 1.
The problem with saying you want to play Mafia in a PyP game is that you actually may pick someone which would probably turn up as Mafia.(Perhaps strager or Dimka)

In a regular PyP game where the mod assigns stuff randomly, it would be less suspicious (mod can assign a town role to a suspicious character), but this PyP has a theme - which is the osu! community. Chances are, the bad guy roles would be those hated/have done something bad. Those who are aiming for Mafia would generally pick those.
rust45

NoHItter wrote:

FoS: Chris
Any reason in specific? It helps when you explain your reasoning. Otherwise one might think you're just finding someone to lynch.
NoHitter
A PyP game like this allows you to influence the role you will get.
Chris wanted a Mafia role, chances are he sent a member that has a high chance to be a mafia role.
Hence the FoS.
Chris_old

NoHItter wrote:

FoS: Chris

Chris wrote:

1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?

I think I prefer being Mafia, mainly just because being the bad guy us always more fun.
For answering Mafia in my Question 1.
The problem with saying you want to play Mafia in a PyP game is that you actually may pick someone which would probably turn up as Mafia.(Perhaps strager or Dimka)

In a regular PyP game where the mod assigns stuff randomly, it would be less suspicious (mod can assign a town role to a suspicious character), but this PyP has a theme - which is the osu! community. Chances are, the bad guy roles would be those hated/have done something bad. Those who are aiming for Mafia would generally pick those.
That is actually pretty clever how you pieced that together, I must admit.

.. however, I can assure you that I am far too inactive to know who classifies under bad or good. ;)

Let's be real here though, I got my role before I answered those questions. I doubt anyone would incriminate themselves on purpose.
Haneii

NoHItter wrote:

OK. Now switching back to my question.
FoS: Chris

Chris wrote:

1) What role and faction do you prefer to play as, and why?

I think I prefer being Mafia, mainly just because being the bad guy us always more fun.
For answering Mafia in my Question 1.
The problem with saying you want to play Mafia in a PyP game is that you actually may pick someone which would probably turn up as Mafia.(Perhaps strager or Dimka)

In a regular PyP game where the mod assigns stuff randomly, it would be less suspicious (mod can assign a town role to a suspicious character), but this PyP has a theme - which is the osu! community. Chances are, the bad guy roles would be those hated/have done something bad. Those who are aiming for Mafia would generally pick those.
But...

0_o wrote:

A corrupt group of BATs are attempting to take over the osu! community. Find them before it's too late.
Even if he did it wouldn't help him because in this game (apparently) the mafia is made up of BATs. He'd have to know that it advance and choose BATs if he wanted to be mafia...umm, right?. I'm sure chris isn't the only one to mention he'd like to be mafia so why did you choose him?

A bit of effort trying to justify your fos vs it being random....

what are you planning up to? o.o

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When TWO says he can only post 3 times a day, does he mean mafia day or once every 24 hours?
akrolsmir

Haneii wrote:

When TWO says he can only post 3 times a day, does he mean mafia day or once every 24 hours?
Based on this:

Two wrote:


I obviously can't post again until I want to cast my final vote, so stop sucking please.
It seems like it's once per mafia day. At which point I question spending his last post and only vote on a lurker...
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bmin11 wrote:

I have questions too.

1. How many BAT do you think are around here?

2. Opinions on No Lynch for D1?
Speculating about the setup and implying a no lynch seems like you're trying to sidetrack the town from actually doing anything day 1. Vote: bmin11
rust45

akrolsmir wrote:

Speculating about the setup and implying a no lynch seems like you're trying to sidetrack the town from actually doing anything day
While I also think a no lynch is bad, speculating about the setup can help town get a better idea of the setup and since mafia would already know the setup it wouldn't make sense for them to wonder about it.
Topic Starter
0_o
Vote Count
NoHItter (2) - Mashley, adam2046
DxS (2) - Chris, Two
bmin11 (2) - NoHItter, akrolsmir
Two (1) - Wojjan

~3 days remaining
bmin11
I guess I should go back lurking since asking a question is clearly a scum-tell in this game >_>
foulcoon
Vote: Wojjan

for voting for 99.9% confirmed town
NoHitter
@Haneii
Chris was the only one who blatantly stated he wanted to play as Mafia.
The rest merely stated having Killing Powers, being more informed. These don't necessarily mean being Mafia.

Though I have to admit that my reasoning may be skewed by the flavor at the start, but if one lets say, still picks a known troublemaker, would he still get an anti-town role? I believe so.

This may be set-up spec, but it still makes sense.

Chris wrote:

Let's be real here though, I got my role before I answered those questions. I doubt anyone would incriminate themselves on purpose.
That is WIFOM.
Also, the problem with that logic is if you did realize what I was planning before I said it.
NoHitter

foulcoon wrote:

Vote: Wojjan

for voting for 99.9% confirmed town
Is this serious >.>
I'm feeling it's RVS.
Wojjan
That vote was on there much before Two even claimed.

a bit too late to start with that. vote harder.

vote: akrolsmr or whatever. Votes bmin for bullshit reasoning.
Mara
Where's Lilac and Rantai, by the way? It seems they didn't even confirm at all.
bmin11
Lilac just came back (sleeping probably) and Rantai should be back any time soon as well.
Rantai
SPOILER

Rantai wrote:

In but only if it's ok that I'll be away for 2 days (possibly without an internet connection) on the 26th and 27th of August.
:D

Anyway posting to say I am now back and ready to do stuff.

I'll read over the thread after a good night's sleep.
Mara
Ah, sorry - silly me.
Chris_old

NoHItter wrote:

That is WIFOM.
Also, the problem with that logic is if you did realize what I was planning before I said it.
Your entire plan was to see who said they enjoyed playing as the bad guy? Sounds like crap.

It makes no difference what you claim you were planning to do regardless.

There is no logical reason under any circumstance for someone to openly admit that they enjoy being the bad guy, assuming they just got their role-PM and it turned out they were indeed Mafia.

Just out of curiosity, who would these "bad guys" be that you would of sent in, assuming you wanted to be mafia?

Way to ignore the rest of my post, though.
LadySuburu
You could choose someone that has the potential of being mafia in the setup and still obtain a town role. Also, not everyone will pick based on trying to get certain roles, instead picking the people they like in the community and just going with the role they get.

In a normal PyP your strategy can somewhat work if two conditions are true:

1. You haven't done this strategy before. (If you have, people may not tell the truth.)

2. Assuming you haven't done this before, everyone would have to be telling the truth in the questions you asked.


In this PyP, there are even more things that make the strategy less likely to succeed.
Mashley

Chris wrote:

There is no logical reason under any circumstance for someone to openly admit that they enjoy being the bad guy, assuming they just got their role-PM and it turned out they were indeed Mafia.
There is no reason to call suspicion onto this in the first place. Yes the question is useless, but it's not going to make any difference what you prefer to play as because no one chose their alignment. There was never any indication before the game began of what choices would get a mafia role, and what's more we had to give three choices, so it's almost completely up to chance unless someone picks 3 BATs - in which case it still doesn't make a difference as no one knew that all the mafia would be BATs.
NoHitter
On the top of my head, people who I think may turn up as scum.
1) strager (Sorry if you are watching this :()
2) Robloxman41
3) WeegeeVsWeegee Esupanitix

Yes. You did not choose your alignment, but if you really wanted a certain role, you can influence what role you may get.
That's why I find it suspicious. I didn't say we have to lynch them did we?
Haneii

0_o wrote:

A corrupt group of BATs are attempting to take over the osu! community. Find them before it's too late.
NoHitter
What do you suppose the names I gave you will be then?

Also,
Mod: How do you select preference over the 1st choice, etc?
Rantai
In regards to your questions: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=975713#p975713 No change.

I must say there is a lot of straw grabbing going on. Personally I don't think Chris did anything scummy enough to warrant an FoS so I'm not sure what you're aiming at.

Also

NoHItter wrote:

What do you suppose the names I gave you will be then?
How is that relevant to BATs?

But yeah an unfounded suspicion in my opinion. "He wants to be" doesn't always mean "He will be" especially with the whole BAT mix up.
Lilac
Hi hi guys.

At first, I also thought that certain people who choose BATs would be mafia but I don't think reading into that statement "a corrupt group of BATs" is very useful unless a person claims a person that they chose or whatnot.

What I'm saying is, it just might not be BATs who are Mafia. If you really want to look at it that way and all BATs are Mafia, more than likely Chris will be town but I'm fairly certain he got something that isn't part of the mafia.

For me, the player pool is too big and more than likely I wouldn't want a lynch unless someone does something either really stupid or really scummy.

Alternatively, I can use meta. However, this type of mafia has made is semi-redundant.
NoHitter
Forget it.

I was trying to say that even if the flavor indicates that the BATs are the scum, certain people like what I mentioned earlier could still be anti-town roles as I don't believe that they'll be classified as town roles either.

So if you picked strager, I believe your role would still be anti-town.
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