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@pieguy: I'd like to hear YOUR reason as to why those make me mafia (especially the first reason)
@pieguy: I'd like to hear YOUR reason as to why those make me mafia (especially the first reason)
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Regarding the post at D2, it's kind of useless to post something like that, it seems like you're paranoid people will call you out on that. To be honest deaths are just a big ball of WIFOM, so it doesn't even matter that much (so I doubt anyone who's town would say that)
yeah, I kind of regret posting it. The only reason I regret posting it is because people are ripping my ass apart because of it. It was only speculation.
I feel like Sync is probably telling the truth, but it was a really bad move to make.
I'm really not willing to lynch them over it though, despite the D1 issue.
Let's not forget that whoever picked Rantai's role has basically refused to claim they did.
I'm pretty sure I'm correct about mafia killing off the people they gave roles too.
I'm really not willing to lynch them over it though, despite the D1 issue.
Let's not forget that whoever picked Rantai's role has basically refused to claim they did.
I'm pretty sure I'm correct about mafia killing off the people they gave roles too.
Did we give each other our roles (the person we gave the role to)?
If we assume everyone's random, there is a chance for that case.
just responding to prod
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responding to a prod with a post saying that you are responding to a prod, with nothing else in it, isn't really responding to a prod as you are still as afk as you were before and the post you just posted may as well have not existed 
dude what the fuck
let me try to wake up faster so I can actually understand shit
let me try to wake up faster so I can actually understand shit
total mindrape
Not really sure who to vote for... I'll just leave this post here as a placeholder (cuz of a prod) and I'll post something with better content later.
heres who I think are most suspicious at this point:
Sync
Wojjan
pieguy
i'm game for a lynch on any of the 3
Sync
Wojjan
pieguy
i'm game for a lynch on any of the 3
Vote LunaticMara
Jesus christ this guy's posts are scummmy. Seriously, read his ISO.
Jesus christ this guy's posts are scummmy. Seriously, read his ISO.
funny how pieguy makes the list and mashley doesn'tfoulcoon wrote:
heres who I think are most suspicious at this point:
Sync
Wojjan
pieguy
i'm game for a lynch on any of the 3
is it because pieguy is maf too and you don't want to seem like you are working with him? nice try, your list is terrible and you don't even list reasons. please get off aion for 5 minutes and come up with valid excuses as to why you want these people lynched.
@Mashley: yeah, stupid posts but I think there are more suspicious people at this point
what do people think
and don't just make lists without reasons next to them like foulcoon did
mashley or pieguy
choose one
I choose pieguy because of the role I gave him makes it possible he is mafia
and that foulcoon bullshit
vote: pieguy
choose one
I choose pieguy because of the role I gave him makes it possible he is mafia
and that foulcoon bullshit
vote: pieguy
If you're planning on lynching pieguy, why don't you tell us what "mafia" role you gave him?
I'd rather not lynch someone based on a suspicious persons word alone.
I'd rather not lynch someone based on a suspicious persons word alone.
rolecop
As I've said before, giving someone a role makes it no more or less likely for them to be mafia. Two's clearly stated that mafia are randomly chosen, which is why you want to be careful about what role you give. (See OP)
Using that as reasoning for a lynch is very scummy to me, and that's twice now where it seems to be influincing a lynch, at least with Sync's reasonings. (First with Dusty, Vig being a "cop-out" role. Now with pie, rolecop likely being mafia.)
Vote: Sync
Using that as reasoning for a lynch is very scummy to me, and that's twice now where it seems to be influincing a lynch, at least with Sync's reasonings. (First with Dusty, Vig being a "cop-out" role. Now with pie, rolecop likely being mafia.)
Vote: Sync
how could you both be so blatantly scummy
definitely seems like you two worked together on that one
unless of course LS, chris, and pieguy are mafia working together
no regrets giving out his role especially because he is suspicious as fuck
definitely seems like you two worked together on that one
unless of course LS, chris, and pieguy are mafia working together
no regrets giving out his role especially because he is suspicious as fuck
i'm just a trooper for the town and you guys know it
Can you explain how a role cop would ever tilt the chance of being mafia? Remember, mafia is chosen randomly by the mod (Two) and I really doubt the role choice would ever influence the chance.
because rolecop mafia is a popular mafia role and it's hard to imagine mafia being really unbalanced like that
also, the shit foulcoon pulled is even more convincing
also, the shit foulcoon pulled is even more convincing
And I think the vig should not shoot the lurker just yet. We could just simply lynch the lurker if you really want them dead that badly and save the shot for now.
If we assume the role is given after the mafia was chosen, this would make sense (not that it could be true), but I'm not sure if that is the case with role distribution. Does anyone knows which comes first?Sync wrote:
because rolecop mafia is a popular mafia role and it's hard to imagine mafia being really unbalanced like that
also, the shit foulcoon pulled is even more convincing
"Because the mafia will be chosen at random, you should think very carefully about what role you give to whom. Secret santa assignments and role lists will remain officially hidden, but you are free to share/claim anything yourselves."
that does not translate into "mafia will be super under-powered, weak, and insignificant"
if mafia would truly random, there is no stopping the fact that having 4 vanilla mafia is possible. can someone explain to me how this works?
that does not translate into "mafia will be super under-powered, weak, and insignificant"
if mafia would truly random, there is no stopping the fact that having 4 vanilla mafia is possible. can someone explain to me how this works?
And there is a chance of having 4 vanilla townies if people really chose vanilla townies for the role choice.
Let's list the terrible plays Sync has made since the beginning of this game..
1.) Claimed pieguy was the person he a chose a role for.
2.) Tries to vote for Wojjan for not following the terrible plan, then says "both of his votes were jokes".
3.) Claims that he didn't think about what he was doing before he told everyone.
4.) Tries to vote for Mashley to divert attention away from himself after I defended bmin.
5.) Immediately claims the Rantai kill was to frame him, even though no one said anything.
6.) Tries to divert attention to Mashley, again.
7.) Claims everyone who voted for him is obviously mafia.
8.) Tells everyone pieguy is a rolecop and votes for him.
9.) Doesn't even know the basic setup of the game.
I was actually giving you the benefit of the doubt, assuming that you were just bad. I don't think that anymore.
1.) Claimed pieguy was the person he a chose a role for.
2.) Tries to vote for Wojjan for not following the terrible plan, then says "both of his votes were jokes".
3.) Claims that he didn't think about what he was doing before he told everyone.
4.) Tries to vote for Mashley to divert attention away from himself after I defended bmin.
5.) Immediately claims the Rantai kill was to frame him, even though no one said anything.
6.) Tries to divert attention to Mashley, again.
7.) Claims everyone who voted for him is obviously mafia.
8.) Tells everyone pieguy is a rolecop and votes for him.
9.) Doesn't even know the basic setup of the game.
I was actually giving you the benefit of the doubt, assuming that you were just bad. I don't think that anymore.
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Vote Count
pieguy1372 (2): Wojjan, Sync
Wojjan (1): Lilac
Lilac (1): Chris
LunaticMara (1): Mashley
Sync (1): LadySuburu
there are 5 hours and 20 minutes left if I'm any good at math
pieguy1372 (2): Wojjan, Sync
Wojjan (1): Lilac
Lilac (1): Chris
LunaticMara (1): Mashley
Sync (1): LadySuburu
there are 5 hours and 20 minutes left if I'm any good at math
5 hours D: I'd request an extension but I doubt that's Two's style. Lynch Mara guys.
1.) you're right
2.) this is not in chronological order
3.) it's true
4.) voted for mashley because mashley himself was trying to divert attention away from him
5.) was just speculation
6.) because he is suspicious
7.) yes, I did. especially foulcoon. his reasons are weak and scummy
8.) because
9.) the "basic setup" seems unlikely to be 100% true and how do you know if mafia roles were randomized before or after roles were given
2.) this is not in chronological order
3.) it's true
4.) voted for mashley because mashley himself was trying to divert attention away from him
5.) was just speculation
6.) because he is suspicious
7.) yes, I did. especially foulcoon. his reasons are weak and scummy
8.) because
9.) the "basic setup" seems unlikely to be 100% true and how do you know if mafia roles were randomized before or after roles were given
also, chris: making it really obvious that you're just being scummy because you didn't even unvote before you voted for me what the fuck
I'm not complaining though ~~~~~
I'm not complaining though ~~~~~
Mashley trying to divert away from Mashley himself.......... I really hope this is not what you meant.Sync wrote:
4.) voted for mashley because mashley himself was trying to divert attention away from him
Explain this in detail. Like, everything you can say about pieguy and foulcoon.Sync wrote:
7.) yes, I did. especially foulcoon. his reasons are weak and scummy
Meaning Two is lying to us? From what Two has said about the role choice and stuff, I'm actually going to believe roles were given first, then the mafia were chosen randomly.Sync wrote:
9.) the "basic setup" seems unlikely to be 100% true and how do you know if mafia roles were randomized before or after roles were given
I meant to say that he was trying to move himself from under the spotlight by voting with salvage and wojjan (because they won't call him out if he does what they ask)
foulcoon comes up with this bullshit list (his second post in the entire game?) (viewtopic.php?p=1273196#p1273196). he gives no reasoning whatsoever. It's not like it made up for the "excessive" input he's had on the game thus far. also, putting pieguy (someone who's appeared to be pro-town this whole game so far) in that list randomly is what really made me suspect foulcoon and pieguy as mafia (foulcoon pointing his finger at pieguy to make it seem unlikely they are working together)
Nope, I'm just saying it's unlikely that the Mod did not manipulate the choosing of alignment in any way, shape, or form to balance the game out.
foulcoon comes up with this bullshit list (his second post in the entire game?) (viewtopic.php?p=1273196#p1273196). he gives no reasoning whatsoever. It's not like it made up for the "excessive" input he's had on the game thus far. also, putting pieguy (someone who's appeared to be pro-town this whole game so far) in that list randomly is what really made me suspect foulcoon and pieguy as mafia (foulcoon pointing his finger at pieguy to make it seem unlikely they are working together)
Nope, I'm just saying it's unlikely that the Mod did not manipulate the choosing of alignment in any way, shape, or form to balance the game out.
I don't think you get how roles are chosen. Here is the step
1) People choose the role for the other
2) Two now randomizes the mafia member
3) Take a look at what the person was given and give the role while balancing it.
Now tell me, how a person getting a role cop as an option would influence the chance of getting mafia? It is random.
You guys are both bull shit, but you know the difference? foulcoon didn't vote and you did. I don't think I would have to explain the difference.
vote: Sync
1) People choose the role for the other
2) Two now randomizes the mafia member
3) Take a look at what the person was given and give the role while balancing it.
Now tell me, how a person getting a role cop as an option would influence the chance of getting mafia? It is random.
You guys are both bull shit, but you know the difference? foulcoon didn't vote and you did. I don't think I would have to explain the difference.
vote: Sync
I'm not mafia and you are making a mistake. don't you guys understand the importance of somebody in town to go out and bite mafia where it hurts
they're probably trembling they're so scared of the power I hold alone. after all, I already pointed them out
you should unvote and vote for pieguy, foulcoon, or mashley. either work for me
they're probably trembling they're so scared of the power I hold alone. after all, I already pointed them out
you should unvote and vote for pieguy, foulcoon, or mashley. either work for me
P.S. Talking like that does not make you Two/Salvage
poser
poser
thx JInxyjem for contributing something so useful to the game other than the ISO
you're right though I wish I was Two/Salvage because I want to be admired amongst the osu mafia communtiy so badly
I am trying to be them on purpose
That is my intent
you read me perfectly
you're right though I wish I was Two/Salvage because I want to be admired amongst the osu mafia communtiy so badly
I am trying to be them on purpose
That is my intent
you read me perfectly
vote: Sync
I thought Chris also voted Sync, unless I missed something
I thought Chris also voted Sync, unless I missed something
i hope you guys know you're lynching a townie
employer* same shit
You have made jack sense to me and targeted pieguy for a ridiculous reason that he is a Rolecop. Yeah that role totally makes him more scummy despite the fact everything's random. Not scummier than you though.
vote: Sync
vote: Sync
in the next mafia game I will lie instead of telling the truth. Instead of being open and willing to discuss stuff I will be seclusive and unwilling to participate.
Or maybe I will get overly emotional. I will vote out of rage and disagree with everybody's opinion other than my own... because I want to be Salvage so bad. I'm a poser, right?
P.S you guys can still unvote
Or maybe I will get overly emotional. I will vote out of rage and disagree with everybody's opinion other than my own... because I want to be Salvage so bad. I'm a poser, right?
P.S you guys can still unvote
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Vote Count
Sync (4): LadySuburu, bmin11, pieguy1372, JInxyjem
pieguy1372 (2): Wojjan, Sync
Wojjan (1): Lilac
Lilac (1): Chris
LunaticMara (1): Mashley
Sync found Rantai moments later, bled out on the floor. The rest of the group see Sync standing over their dead body.
"It wasn't me, I swear! .. it was pieguy!" he yelled, though no one seemed to believe him. Slowly the group gathered around, and began to box him in against the wall. "Give us one reason to believe you, you've been acting strange all night!"
"I know, I just can't help it! I'm telling you, I'm our best shot at making it out of here alive!" After a while of failed convincing, it seemed Sync finally gave up. "You're going to regret this!"
That's all it took, the group banded around Sync and started pummeling him down against the wall. A neverending supply of stomps and kicks soon had Sync passed out. The fat guy decided to jump with both feet onto the side of his head, crushing his skull. Upon searching the body, they found a piece of paper he had been writing on in his pocket.
"List of Possible Killers", and as you read down you notice that blood has gushed over the paper, making it unreadable.
An eyrie feeling goes across the room, and chills run up their backs. The hunt is still on.
Sync - Employee (Town) - Role Cop has been lynched.
Sync (4): LadySuburu, bmin11, pieguy1372, JInxyjem
pieguy1372 (2): Wojjan, Sync
Wojjan (1): Lilac
Lilac (1): Chris
LunaticMara (1): Mashley
Sync found Rantai moments later, bled out on the floor. The rest of the group see Sync standing over their dead body.
"It wasn't me, I swear! .. it was pieguy!" he yelled, though no one seemed to believe him. Slowly the group gathered around, and began to box him in against the wall. "Give us one reason to believe you, you've been acting strange all night!"
"I know, I just can't help it! I'm telling you, I'm our best shot at making it out of here alive!" After a while of failed convincing, it seemed Sync finally gave up. "You're going to regret this!"
That's all it took, the group banded around Sync and started pummeling him down against the wall. A neverending supply of stomps and kicks soon had Sync passed out. The fat guy decided to jump with both feet onto the side of his head, crushing his skull. Upon searching the body, they found a piece of paper he had been writing on in his pocket.
"List of Possible Killers", and as you read down you notice that blood has gushed over the paper, making it unreadable.
An eyrie feeling goes across the room, and chills run up their backs. The hunt is still on.
Sync - Employee (Town) - Role Cop has been lynched.
day ends soon
farewell, good luck town
farewell, good luck town
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It's now Night 2. You have 32 hours to send in night actions.
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akrolsmir is replacing Backfire because they got banned or something
Hi guys. I'm the new Defense Against the Dark Arts professor. I hope we have a wonderful year.
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It was getting cold around the office, and tempers were running high. They were like scared dogs backed into a corner, ready to attack.
Seemingly quiet and lost in his own thought, Ivalset never really spoke when the group argued and fought about who the killer might be. No one was willing to turn their backs on each other, and even the most friendly couples were tearing at each others throats.
Ivalset only listened as the group angrily discussed what the best course of action was. After a heated thirty minute debate, Ivalset stood up and walked away. He seemed.. emotionless. No one could really get a good read on him. "Quiet doesn't mean serial killer, does it?" a man suggested, looking at Ivalset as he walked away.
Ivalset decided to go sit in his office and grab the small blanket he kept in the bottom drawer of his desk. Holding it up in front of him, he shook it out and just as he was about to fold it, a breeze blew in from his oddly open office window. Slightly creeped out, Ivalset walked over to close the window. As he leaned out to grab it, he was pushed from behind.
He flipped over forward, barely able to grab onto the ledge. Dangling what seemed as high as a plane in the sky, Ivalset looked up at the killer. He had seen the psychopath who was responsible for all the killings. The killer slowly sliced a "20" into Ivalset's right hand as he held on, and a "12" in the other hand.
He wouldn't be able to speak a word of it, as he was doomed to eternal silence as the killer plunged a knife into the back of his neck, stabbing it into the side of the building. Ivalset hanging there, bled out down the side of it. Coming to check on him later, suspicious, the group saw two hands at the window.
"Oh shit, grab him!" they said, and ran over to help him back in. As they got towards the ledge, they saw the knife stabbed into the back of his neck. Looking down at hm hanging, they noticed what his hands read..
Ivalset - Employee (Town) - Role Cop has been killed.
Seemingly quiet and lost in his own thought, Ivalset never really spoke when the group argued and fought about who the killer might be. No one was willing to turn their backs on each other, and even the most friendly couples were tearing at each others throats.
Ivalset only listened as the group angrily discussed what the best course of action was. After a heated thirty minute debate, Ivalset stood up and walked away. He seemed.. emotionless. No one could really get a good read on him. "Quiet doesn't mean serial killer, does it?" a man suggested, looking at Ivalset as he walked away.
Ivalset decided to go sit in his office and grab the small blanket he kept in the bottom drawer of his desk. Holding it up in front of him, he shook it out and just as he was about to fold it, a breeze blew in from his oddly open office window. Slightly creeped out, Ivalset walked over to close the window. As he leaned out to grab it, he was pushed from behind.
He flipped over forward, barely able to grab onto the ledge. Dangling what seemed as high as a plane in the sky, Ivalset looked up at the killer. He had seen the psychopath who was responsible for all the killings. The killer slowly sliced a "20" into Ivalset's right hand as he held on, and a "12" in the other hand.
He wouldn't be able to speak a word of it, as he was doomed to eternal silence as the killer plunged a knife into the back of his neck, stabbing it into the side of the building. Ivalset hanging there, bled out down the side of it. Coming to check on him later, suspicious, the group saw two hands at the window.
"Oh shit, grab him!" they said, and ran over to help him back in. As they got towards the ledge, they saw the knife stabbed into the back of his neck. Looking down at hm hanging, they noticed what his hands read..
Ivalset - Employee (Town) - Role Cop has been killed.
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It's now Day 3. You have 72 hours until Night 3.
It takes 8 votes to lynch
It takes 8 votes to lynch
Man, that's a little brutal you know.
I'm not sure if Ivalset dying kills the point I was making about mafia killing the people they picked roles for.
I doubt they would of picked a Bodyguard over a Role Cop for the kill N1 if they had knew Ivalset was one.
That still doesn't explain why whoever chose Rantai's role didn't want to say who they were.
Two rolecops gone in one day/night period is bad though, and there is still pieguy who is left lingering for a possible kill tonight.
Who did you scan pieguy? Don't say the role unless it's something like roleblocker.
I doubt they would of picked a Bodyguard over a Role Cop for the kill N1 if they had knew Ivalset was one.
That still doesn't explain why whoever chose Rantai's role didn't want to say who they were.
Two rolecops gone in one day/night period is bad though, and there is still pieguy who is left lingering for a possible kill tonight.
Who did you scan pieguy? Don't say the role unless it's something like roleblocker.
What on earth are the vigs doing? Unless there really aren't any left, but that still seems unlikely to me.
Busy missing or not existing.
pretty sure the vig (if there is one) has good reason to keep quiet
just my ten cents
also;
why trust pieguy? sync was totally town, was he not?
sorry but, vote: pieguy1372
just my ten cents
also;
Sync wrote:
I'm not mafia and you are making a mistake. don't you guys understand the importance of somebody in town to go out and bite mafia where it hurts
they're probably trembling they're so scared of the power I hold alone. after all, I already pointed them out
you should unvote and vote for pieguy, foulcoon, or mashley. either work for me
why trust pieguy? sync was totally town, was he not?
sorry but, vote: pieguy1372
I don't see how Sync being town makes pieguy mafia.
Sync was bad, outed a cop and got himself lynched as a cop.
It's interesting that's you're willing to lynch a cop though, especially after we just lost two and he listed more than just him.
Sync was bad, outed a cop and got himself lynched as a cop.
It's interesting that's you're willing to lynch a cop though, especially after we just lost two and he listed more than just him.
imho his logic was just
you've defended him and avoided pieguy getting hammered before
you're just as scum as he is
fos bro
you've defended him and avoided pieguy getting hammered before
you're just as scum as he is
fos bro
defended pieguy, that is
I defended pieguy from Sync's terrible scum logic, and now I'm defending him from yours.
There is no reason why anyone associated with town would want someone who is a confirmed cop lynched at this point.
If the lynch passes through and pieguy is actually town, dkun is next.
There is no reason why anyone associated with town would want someone who is a confirmed cop lynched at this point.
If the lynch passes through and pieguy is actually town, dkun is next.
I'd also like to point out that dkun has made a whopping 7 posts in this game.
One to join, one to clarify he meant pieguy. So essentially 5 posts. Let's break this down..
1.) Reading "rest assured", nothing to say.
2.) Calling Wojjan scum, asking if not contributing makes him scum?
3.) Respond to prod, offer no insight on anything.
4.) 3 posts at the beginning of D3 trying to get the last known cop lynched.
That's a worse ISO than even Sync had, and now you're trying to push a lynch on a cop too.
One to join, one to clarify he meant pieguy. So essentially 5 posts. Let's break this down..
1.) Reading "rest assured", nothing to say.
2.) Calling Wojjan scum, asking if not contributing makes him scum?
3.) Respond to prod, offer no insight on anything.
4.) 3 posts at the beginning of D3 trying to get the last known cop lynched.
That's a worse ISO than even Sync had, and now you're trying to push a lynch on a cop too.
Vote: Wojjan
because we don't have a whole lot to go on right now anyways
and i don't feel like lynching pieguy yet after Chris' defense
because we don't have a whole lot to go on right now anyways
and i don't feel like lynching pieguy yet after Chris' defense
Oh and Vote LunaticMara for the same reason as yesterday. Also got my eye on dkun and Ivalset for their scummy ISOs.
Vote: JInxyjem.
That was by far...the worst reason of lynching yesterday you've ever given. Explain yourself.
That was by far...the worst reason of lynching yesterday you've ever given. Explain yourself.
To elaborate, you gave off vibes of hatred and over confidence. You called Sync a poser but did you ever look to a point of just scummy town and not scummy mafia or was your hate for posers too overpowering for your own good?
oh my god lilac just shut up already
vote foulcoon
doesn't do jack shit and flinches like crazy when called out, lists a rolecop as people he'd rather see lynched than himself.
then votes me because lol might as well try to get a bw going
vote foulcoon
doesn't do jack shit and flinches like crazy when called out, lists a rolecop as people he'd rather see lynched than himself.
then votes me because lol might as well try to get a bw going
Very persuasive.
nigga pleaseMashley wrote:
Oh and Vote LunaticMara for the same reason as yesterday.
Why this doesn't surprise me?Chris @dkun wrote:
I defended pieguy from Sync's terrible scum logic, and now I'm defending him from yours.
Oh yeah, I also laughed at this.Mashley wrote:
Also got my eye on dkun and Ivalset for their scummy ISOs.
rofl so madChris wrote:
I'd also like to point out that dkun has made a whopping 7 posts in this game.
One to join, one to clarify he meant pieguy. So essentially 5 posts. Let's break this down..
1.) Reading "rest assured", nothing to say.
2.) Calling Wojjan scum, asking if not contributing makes him scum?
3.) Respond to prod, offer no insight on anything.
4.) 3 posts at the beginning of D3 trying to get the last known cop lynched.
That's a worse ISO than even Sync had, and now you're trying to push a lynch on a cop too.
i'm sorry if I have finals to attend to, but I have kept up with the thread. I felt that I had nothing to contribute, so I didn't. if that's such a problem with you, then why didn't you say anything earlier? now that i'm actually trying to contribute something, you're all dog up on me, you scum
pieguy pushed sync, sync was town
i'm sorry, but you seem total scum for defending pieguy to the grave, and I have yet to see anything for his defense.
So you think pieguy is the role cop, right? If we assume so, why wouldn't the mafia want to kill pieguy?Chris wrote:
D3 trying to get the last known cop lynched.
Withholding judgement on pieguy until he posts.
In the meanwhile, I'm suspecting bmin. @above- because they (you?) thought that it'd be easy to push a lynch on him right now.
In the meanwhile, I'm suspecting bmin. @above- because they (you?) thought that it'd be easy to push a lynch on him right now.
Plus rolecop might not be that beneficial anyways if the roles are not correlated with alignments, and scum can just straight-out claim their role and never have it disproved. If I properly understood how this game works.
About the same thing I was going to say. Rolecop is "almost" useless in this game. In addition, someone's role being confirmed has almost nothing to do with keeping them around. I say almost, because there are certain roles which might be good to risk keeping around.akrolsmir wrote:
Plus rolecop might not be that beneficial anyways if the roles are not correlated with alignments, and scum can just straight-out claim their role and never have it disproved. If I properly understood how this game works.
I honestly can't think of a good use for rolecop, aside from minor speculation, or gambits.
I'm still suspicious of Mashley.
Obviously do to potential doctor/watcher that would target pieguy considering he is.. you know, a confirmed cop.bmin11 wrote:
So you think pieguy is the role cop, right? If we assume so, why wouldn't the mafia want to kill pieguy?Chris wrote:
D3 trying to get the last known cop lynched.
The only way pieguy is mafia is if the person who picked Ivalset's role isn't (or there is ANOTHER cop).
also yes akrolsmir, that's how the game works.
It's true that a Role Cop isn't the most useful role, but I don't see how that implies it's worth lynching him. On the other hand, a role cop is extremely beneficial to Mafia.
At least let him say who he scanned before he gets rushed to a hammer if this is who everyone's deciding to kill.
I still want dkun lynched tomorrow if he's town, especially since he went right for the rolecop and not for Mashley/Foulcoon, then defending "logic" that wasn't even there.
1. Lilac (?)
3. JInxyjem (?)
4. Salvage (Town)
5. bmin11 (?)
6. dkun (Mafia)
7. animask (?)
8. akrolsmir (Town)
9. pieguy1372 (Town)
10. LadySuburu (Town)
11. foulcoon (Mafia)
12. Mashley (Mafia)
13. Wojjan (Town)
14. LunaticMara (?)
That's pretty much how I'm seeing it right now.
3. JInxyjem (?)
4. Salvage (Town)
5. bmin11 (?)
6. dkun (Mafia)
7. animask (?)
8. akrolsmir (Town)
9. pieguy1372 (Town)
10. LadySuburu (Town)
11. foulcoon (Mafia)
12. Mashley (Mafia)
13. Wojjan (Town)
14. LunaticMara (?)
That's pretty much how I'm seeing it right now.
do you suspect three town rolecops?
so you obviously think alignments were chosen before gifts?
so you obviously think alignments were chosen before gifts?
I think that roles were chosen before alignment, but alignment was random.
Really it makes no difference either way if alignment is random.
Yes, I think that there are 3 town rolecops.
Really it makes no difference either way if alignment is random.
Yes, I think that there are 3 town rolecops.
man if mashley wasn't the biggest idiot ever and asked people to claim their giftee it would be much easier to say "I picked that for someone so we've got that in the game somewhere"
Topic Starter
Vote Count
pieguy1372 (1): dkun
Wojjan (1): foulcoon
LunaticMara (1): Mashley
JInxyjem (1): Lilac
foulcoon (1): Wojjan
pieguy1372 (1): dkun
Wojjan (1): foulcoon
LunaticMara (1): Mashley
JInxyjem (1): Lilac
foulcoon (1): Wojjan
The first night I checked Wojjan. The second night I checked Mashley.
I agree, dkun just seems like he's looking for an easy lynch at this point, despite not having contributed anything all game. I'm not sure who else is mafia though.
I agree, dkun just seems like he's looking for an easy lynch at this point, despite not having contributed anything all game. I'm not sure who else is mafia though.
Deaths are really just WIFOM...and me being a rolecop doesn't confirm me anyway.bmin11 wrote:
So you think pieguy is the role cop, right? If we assume so, why wouldn't the mafia want to kill pieguy?Chris wrote:
D3 trying to get the last known cop lynched.
I'm asking, because I'm not sure of the idea as well.akrolsmir wrote:
In the meanwhile, I'm suspecting bmin. @above- because they (you?) thought that it'd be easy to push a lynch on him right now.
That post was made in jest. My next post clearly says that I voted Sync because he targeted pieguy for being a rolecop using some weird logic that pieguy's a rolecop thus he's possible to be mafia. His flip makes it even more retarded, since he's a god damn rolecop himself. Pile that with his actions for the other days and that's my reason.Lilac wrote:
To elaborate, you gave off vibes of hatred and over confidence. You called Sync a poser but did you ever look to a point of just scummy town and not scummy mafia or was your hate for posers too overpowering for your own good?
k nk/lynch me and find out that i'm also townpieguy1372 wrote:
The first night I checked Wojjan. The second night I checked Mashley.
I agree, dkun just seems like he's looking for an easy lynch at this point, despite not having contributed anything all game. I'm not sure who else is mafia though.
Deaths are really just WIFOM...and me being a rolecop doesn't confirm me anyway.
then who's fingers point at bro
soz but scum is scum
along with chris as well
fos much np bro
Come on...seriously?
You're joining Mafia to play like THAT? I thought Wojjan and Sync were bad with their emotions but you just had to join them as well.
You're joining Mafia to play like THAT? I thought Wojjan and Sync were bad with their emotions but you just had to join them as well.
Oh my fucking god how scummy is this.dkun wrote:
k nk/lynch me and find out that i'm also town
Vote dkun
pfff I don't remember thingsLilac wrote:
Oh yeah, I also laughed at this.Mashley wrote:
Also got my eye on dkun and Ivalset for their scummy ISOs.
like I said, when it happens and I am town, just watch who fingers point at thenMashley wrote:
Oh my fucking god how scummy is this.dkun wrote:
k nk/lynch me and find out that i'm also town
Vote dkun
Topic Starter
I feel like now is a good time to bring up two mistakes I've made so that they don't further impact anything later on.
1. Applicable secret santa lists should have read "1-shot targetable Encryptor (1-shot as in it establishes a permanent chat link to another player)"
2. Bodyguard was chosen for Sync instead of Role Cop (he actually was a role cop though that wasn't a typo). It got mixed up somehow, but I am pretty confident there was no collateral damage.
k gl hf
1. Applicable secret santa lists should have read "1-shot targetable Encryptor (1-shot as in it establishes a permanent chat link to another player)"
2. Bodyguard was chosen for Sync instead of Role Cop (he actually was a role cop though that wasn't a typo). It got mixed up somehow, but I am pretty confident there was no collateral damage.
k gl hf
You know, if I knew Encryptor could do that. I would have given my person that. Goddamnit Two.
k i readed everything sorry for the afk time
this is how this goes :
wojjan is 100% town
dkun is either bad or mafia, leanning to mafia but not sure, also i have to read every post like thousands of times to get them (4 days without pc is hurting my logic)
vote: foulcoon
this is how this goes :
wojjan is 100% town
dkun is either bad or mafia, leanning to mafia but not sure, also i have to read every post like thousands of times to get them (4 days without pc is hurting my logic)
vote: foulcoon
and my current reads before the hammer just in case are :
1. Lilac (leaning town)
2. Chris (leaning town)
3. JInxyjem (neutral)
5. bmin11 (neutral)
6. dkun (leaning mafia)
7. animask (idk)
8. akrolsmir (leaning town)
9. pieguy1372 (town)
10. LadySuburu (neutral)
11. foulcoon (mafia)
12. Mashley (leaning mafia)
13. Wojjan (town)
14. LunaticMara (mafia)
1. Lilac (leaning town)
2. Chris (leaning town)
3. JInxyjem (neutral)
5. bmin11 (neutral)
6. dkun (leaning mafia)
7. animask (idk)
8. akrolsmir (leaning town)
9. pieguy1372 (town)
10. LadySuburu (neutral)
11. foulcoon (mafia)
12. Mashley (leaning mafia)
13. Wojjan (town)
14. LunaticMara (mafia)
leaning town on chris, can you explain? I had scumread on him
yes, he's being pretty logical with almost everything he said, i had some scummy reads too but i had from u too before confirming u ^__^.
you're shitting me right?
holy shit salvage you must be slow as fuck
holy shit salvage you must be slow as fuck
u discovered my true identity, u didn't have to tell my full name tho, that was kind of mean
I've learned that statements like that aren't town or scum tells.Mashley wrote:
Oh my fucking god how scummy is this.
Vote dkun
Also, I must have missed whatever's going on with foulcoon. Someone mind filling me in?
Wojjan wrote:
oh my god lilac just shut up already
vote foulcoon
doesn't do jack shit and flinches like crazy when called out, lists a rolecop as people he'd rather see lynched than himself.
then votes me because lol might as well try to get a bw going