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May'n - Lion (TV Size)

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jerry the man
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jerry the man
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on den 15 november 2011 at 22:16:34

Artist: May'n
Title: Lion (TV Size)
Source: macross frontier
Tags: pereira006
BPM: 145
Filesize: 11085kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4,55 stars, 194 notes)
  2. Normal (3,52 stars, 159 notes)
  3. Pereira's Easy (1,77 stars, 88 notes)
Download: May'n - Lion (TV Size)
Download: May'n - Lion (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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this is my 1st real made beatmap and it are to Naoo-miii and everyone on OSU hope everyone like it :)
and thanks to pereira some have helped me with this beatmap
Last edited by jerry the man , edited 40 times in total.
Rizumu Tenshi
609 posts
Joined May 2011
Rizumu Tenshi
You've heard me asking to make Insane difficulty, now, here you go. It's done.

Download: May'n - Lion (TV Size) (jerry the man) [Blazing Teens' Insane].osu
I WARN YOU--FAST SLIDERSTREAM WEEEEEEE~
No, it's not overmapped. There IS ONLY one sliderstream.
I hope it's not way insane for you.
Makar
osu! Alumni
2,258 posts
Joined February 2011
Makar
Where is your difficulty? There are only guest difficulties here....
If you want this to be able to get ranked you need to at least do one difficulty....

Helped in IRC
Rizumu Tenshi
609 posts
Joined May 2011
Rizumu Tenshi
Updated my diff. 2 beat blankets instead of 2 spinners--one blanket where the spinner was but no longer exists. Less Kiai Time.

Download: May'n - Lion (TV Size) (jerry the man) [Blazing Teens' Insane].osu
Probably the tags now have my nickname fixed.
Agnes
osu! Alumni
1,153 posts
Joined July 2009
Agnes
orz

[General]
  1. Really needs some more... variety in general. Most of the difficulties are moreso mundane rather than enjoyable.
  2. There's a lot more errors then I could possibly list, but I'm on a tight schedule today.
  3. Using Grid level 1 is usually frowned upon. I wouldn't recommend using it.
[Easy]
Nngh. Nooo...

00:06:970 (x) - Instead of ending at 00:03:660, map up to six seconds instead.
00:10:281 (x) - Start mapping again here. The beat starting off at 00:11:522 could really throw someone off.
00:37:591 (Spinner) - Extend up to 00:40:074, replacing (1).

[Normal]
General sloppiness is found here.

00:15:246 (2,1) - Spacing between the end of slider and (1) is... kinda sloppy. Adjust a bit?
00:35:522 (6) - Fix the shape of this slider.
00:37:591 (2) - ^

General opinion of the difficulty: The patterns mapped on this difficulty is very repetitive, some sliders are pretty unshaped... It would need a bit of cleaning up in general. Make sure of the blue and red ticks, too!


Can't exactly finish the mod today, so I'll let Sushi take over if he posts. Good luck!
Sushi
osu! Alumni
2,989 posts
Joined October 2008
Sushi
This seriously need a lot of work.
And for everyone, not only the main mapper.
I won't go througha detailed mod pointing each thing to say, cuz there are too many things to say in all diffs.

First, please convert your flv video to avi, please.

[Blazing teens's Insane]
This is not good. you have a lot of spacing issues, your jumps generally are not justified, the patterns are ugly, and I don't mention the super copy paste through the kiais.
I'd suggest remapping.
Some few things that you SHOULD NOT repeat.
USE HITSOUNDS dammit.
00:17:315 (1,2,3,4) - This timing is completely wrong. Using 1/8 is not cool, if there is a timing which is special, for your level of mapping, don't try to stick to it.

Learn to use distance spacing !
Not using it doesn't mean that you're pro. If this is your first map (and it looks like it is) learn to use it first !
00:22:694 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,1) - No. just no. These 1/8 sliders are just meh. They don't fit the music, and this is ugly. Don't. do. it. again.
I'm not banning the copy paste, but the way you copypasted everything in the chorus is just horrible.

I'll stop there.
Before making a guest diff, and specially an Insane, please be sure of your mapping level. This difficulty is Not good at all.


[Hard]
You're using Too many stacked notes !
And besides, Do not use grid 1 D:
You end up with absurd spacing, and wrong map, etc.
also, Have more variosu patterns ! having only 1/2 notes very linear and that does not stick to the music is not fun !
Think about remapping. really.

[Normal]
Pretty much the same thing as Hard.

[Easy]
Your breaks feel very random. The difficulty is veeeeeeery repetitive (1/1 everywhere o.o).
00:11:522 (1,2) - lol, no jumps in easy please.
For the rest, please consult Agnes' mod.


This really need more work. But really.
Rizumu Tenshi
609 posts
Joined May 2011
Rizumu Tenshi

Sushi wrote:

[Blazing teens's Insane]
This is not good. you have a lot of spacing issues, your jumps generally are not justified, the patterns are ugly, and I don't mention the super copy paste through the kiais.
I'd suggest remapping.
Some few things that you SHOULD NOT repeat.
USE HITSOUNDS dammit.
00:17:315 (1,2,3,4) - This timing is completely wrong. Using 1/8 is not cool, if there is a timing which is special, for your level of mapping, don't try to stick to it.

Learn to use distance spacing !
Not using it doesn't mean that you're pro. If this is your first map (and it looks like it is) learn to use it first !
00:22:694 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,1) - No. just no. These 1/8 sliders are just meh. They don't fit the music, and this is ugly. Don't. do. it. again.
I'm not banning the copy paste, but the way you copypasted everything in the chorus is just horrible.

I'll stop there.
Before making a guest diff, and specially an Insane, please be sure of your mapping level. This difficulty is Not good at all.
I'll fix everything bad in my diff. Though this is the first time I get a guest diff by me submitted... And wanted the hitsounds but I was too lazy...Don't worry, they'll be fixed. Remember: This is my first guest diff to be submitted.

EDIT: Fixed the whole difficulty. No more bad sliders that don't fit the music, it's now like 1/4 sliders but it's just one slider with the reverse arrows. Added hitsounds. Dude, you've taught me to use Distance Snap; so the spacing is now done with Distance Snap.

Download: May'n - Lion (TV Size) (jerry the man) [Blazing Teens' Insane].osu
I hope this seems a whole lot better.
Pereira006
osu! Alumni
2,801 posts
Joined October 2010
Pereira006

Sushi wrote:

[Easy]
Your breaks feel very random. The difficulty is veeeeeeery repetitive (1/1 everywhere o.o).
00:11:522 (1,2) - lol, no jumps in easy please.
For the rest, please consult Agnes' mod.
This diff is not my and this is not my style anyawy not change because this is not my diff

Download: May'n - Lion (TV Size) (jerry the man) [Pereira's Easy].osu

This is really my diff and really true my style

also I can see [Blazing teens' Insane] this wrong this should be Blazing teens's Insane that true name diff orz

NO KUDOSU HERE!

jerry if you need really help ? just ask me in-game ok
Rizumu Tenshi
609 posts
Joined May 2011
Rizumu Tenshi

Pereira006 wrote:

also I can see [Blazing teens' Insane] this wrong this should be Blazing teens's Insane that true name diff orz
You think so? My nickname ends with the letter S, so putting an S after the ' is, like, just some non-sense. And modders have put the T in my nickname lowercase; it's in fact capital because my nickname is based on the yo-yo show itself! (I dunno where to get the show's logo, if you dunno)
If you still think it should be Blazing Teens's Insane, quote this sentence and say that it should be like that. Anyways, I'll be installing the real Easy--your style. I'll see about it.

This post does not contain anything related to modding and kudosu. No kudosu here please.
Bobo_old
492 posts
Joined February 2011
Bobo_old
Let's have a looksie here~

Red = Post edit.

-All-

Disable the countdown. HASN'T BEEN DONE
Use capital letters on the diffs.
Kiai time's gotta be the same in all diffs. HASN'T BEEN DONE
Tags must be the same in all diffs.

Wtf@The Pizza Hut logo in the bg.

Hmm...

-Easy-

Oh sorry, why was Jerry's Easy named Pereira's Easy??? D:

00:37:591 - I'd just make this spinner 2 ticks longer.

Nice diff~! :D

-Normal-

Use distance snap.

HP Drain 5?
CS 3
Approach rate 5
OD 5?

00:05:832 - Map through this break.
00:17:315 - Eww, antijump, get rid of it.
00:42:970 - Perhaps stack this with (8)?

Needs work.

-Hard-

Use distance snap.

HP Drain 6
Circle size 4.
Approach rate 7.
OD 6.

00:07:384 - Fill the break.
01:30:350 - Silence the hitsound.

Needs work...

-Insane-

OK wtf this diff is broken.
HP Drain 10??? Dial it down to 6 or lower.
I dont know any recent ranked maps that have the Circle Size under 5. Change it to 5

or bigger.
AR 7 is kinda slow for an Insane... at least to me it is. 8 or 9 plz. 8 sounds good.
OD 7.

Avoid placing notes on 1/8 ticks. Try to stick to red and white ticks.

00:06:970 - Delte the new combo.
00:15:298 - Push this forward 3 ticks and make it 3 ticks smaller.
00:17:729 - Mapping the vocals all of a sudden? Delete this double or change it.
00:28:539 - Push this forward 3 ticks and make it 3 ticks smaller.
00:37:643 - ^
00:50:625 - New combo should be there.
01:06:763 - Delete new combo.
01:07:022 - Push this forward 3 ticks and make it 3 ticks smaller.
01:25:798 - Delete the new combo.
01:26:418 - Soft hitsounds.

Feels very DJPopish (Not good)
By this I mean the way you've set out the patterns.
The patterns are really straight and have occasional annoying doubles.
Kinda like his diff in this: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/27845
Btw Utage wa Eien ni is a shit map.
Needs work.

This map is pre good for a 1st map, I suggest you get a little better at mapping then

come back and re-map all of this.

BTW you haven't kudosu'd me.
This mod took about an hour to do and I really could've been doing better things so I expect kudosu.
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Pereira006
osu! Alumni
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Joined October 2010
Pereira006

Blazing Teens wrote:

Pereira006 wrote:

also I can see [Blazing teens' Insane] this wrong this should be Blazing teens's Insane that true name diff orz
You think so? My nickname ends with the letter S, so putting an S after the ' is, like, just some non-sense. And modders have put the T in my nickname lowercase; it's in fact capital because my nickname is based on the yo-yo show itself! (I dunno where to get the show's logo, if you dunno)
If you still think it should be Blazing Teens's Insane, quote this sentence and say that it should be like that. Anyways, I'll be installing the real Easy--your style. I'll see about it.

This post does not contain anything related to modding and kudosu. No kudosu here please.


Wooow that why should be Blazing teens's Insane

also Bobo you did mod old Easy diff(Not my) so no change but disable countdowm thank catching

Download: May'n - Lion (TV Size) (jerry the man) [Pereira's Easy].osu
Rizumu Tenshi
609 posts
Joined May 2011
Rizumu Tenshi

Bobo wrote:

-Insane-

OK wtf this diff is broken.
HP Drain 10??? Dial it down to 6 or lower. 7 should be enough
I dont know any recent ranked maps that have the Circle Size under 5. Change it to 5 It was 6, it's now 5

or bigger.
AR 7 is kinda slow for an Insane... at least to me it is. 8 or 9 plz. 8 sounds good. Set to 9
OD 7. Done. OD 7.

Avoid placing notes on 1/8 ticks. Try to stick to red and white ticks. You just got me no longer confused about the note on the 1/8 tick. It's now on a 1/4 tick.

00:06:970 - Delte the new combo.
00:15:298 - Push this forward 3 ticks and make it 3 ticks smaller.
00:28:539 - Push this forward 3 ticks and make it 3 ticks smaller.
00:37:643 - ^
00:50:625 - New combo should be there.
01:06:763 - Delete new combo.
01:07:022 - Push this forward 3 ticks and make it 3 ticks smaller.
01:25:798 - Delete the new combo.
01:26:418 - Soft hitsounds.
This list is all done. The new combos to be deleted are deleted, all spinners to be pushed 3 ticks and to be 3 ticks smaller are now 3 ticks smaller, 3 ticks forward. New combo to be inserted is inserted. Soft hitsounds are now soft. One thing. No more 1/8, which means only red, blue and white ticks appear--if you set it to 1/8 on the editor on your PC you'll see the 3 ticks forward and smaller done.

Feels very DJPopish (Not good) Do you even know how DJPop's maps are? Sometimes there are notes in the MP3/OGG DJPop can hear while these notes have way too low volume, or instruments being censored by the vocals. He sometimes aligns to them--like in Utage wa Eien ni ~SHD~ [TAG4], he decided to put the notes with the instruments, not the vocals; letting in more notes.
Needs work.
Difficulty edited, see the attachment down

EDIT...

Pereira006 wrote:

What does this do with the S in my nickname? There is no S in any nickname at all, except the one after the ' thing. Try seeing anyone in Online Users having a submitted guest diff, his nickname ends with an S. If you see the S after the ' in his diff--as long as he has an S at the end of his nickname--then prove with an image of it and I'll rename my diff to "Blazing Teens's Insane". There's a chance of someone else with an S in the end of his nickname having a submitted guest diff.

EDIT 2...

Bobo wrote:

By this I mean the way you've set out the patterns.
The patterns are really straight and have occasional annoying doubles.
Kinda like his diff in this: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/27845
Btw Utage wa Eien ni is a shit map.
I think I've been in DJPop's maps the most that I've learnt his style, didn't I?

EDIT 3: OK, re-snapped distance, there are some jumps thanks to On-Screen Keyboard that helped me get the Alt button working; it never worked on my keyboard which made me never make jumps--Distance Spacing Multiplier before I leave this .osu was 0.8x--it is originally 1.0x but there are parts that don't use 1.0x, but less and maybe more. And watch out for 00:22:694 (8). 2x Speed (anyone try doing the storyboard that warns you of the 2x Speed?)

Download: May'n - Lion (TV Size) (jerry the man) [Blazing Teens' Insane].osu
And for Pereira:
SPOILER

If you look carefully, it's written "Hyguys' Easy" but not "Hyguys's Easy". Now see what I always wanted to explain?
No_Gu
2,954 posts
Joined January 2011
No_Gu
Artist should be May'n & Nakajima Megumi
and Source should be Macross Frontier (capital)

I think ._.
Rizumu Tenshi
609 posts
Joined May 2011
Rizumu Tenshi
Fixed the spaced stream to not make pros miss. I don't like pros to miss...

Download: May'n - Lion (TV Size) (jerry the man) [Blazing Teens' Insane].osu
If the diff is all fine, waiting for Hard and Normal to be all fine like Easy...Then the map can be ranked.
What
231 posts
Joined December 2010
What
Good map ^^
This is my little MOD

[Pereira's Easy]
00:10:694 (2,3) - spacing
00:14:418 (2,3) - ^

[Normal]
00:02:418 (6) - NC
00:13:591 (8,1) - This jump can be very hard for noobs
00:20:212 (6) - NC?
01:10:281 (5) - NC

[Hard]
00:13:177 (7) - NC
00:20:212 (8) - ^
00:21:039 (1) - remove NC
01:04:487 (8) - NC
01:05:315 (1) - remove NC
01:13:591 (8) - NC
01:14:418 (1) - remove NC

[Insane]
00:06:143 (9) - NC?
Rizumu Tenshi
609 posts
Joined May 2011
Rizumu Tenshi

What wrote:

[Insane]
00:06:143 (9) - NC?
Done, and I've made some sliders be tasty arcs and waves just today to save time. I'm thinking, do I need more jumps in the map? Or it's not necessary? (all this and Distance Snap activated of course)

Download: May'n - Lion (TV Size) (jerry the man) [Blazing Teens' Insane].osu
The stream is easier a bit too! And I warn you, the sliderstream is back, in 1/4 snap divisor only. It's compressed too!
The sliderstream lies where 2x Speed is, but no more 2x Speed. I feel like this map can get more stars once the creator requests some modding and Normal and Hard are better.
Bobo_old
492 posts
Joined February 2011
Bobo_old

Blazing Teens wrote:

If the diff is all fine, waiting for Hard and Normal to be all fine like Easy...Then the map can be ranked.
Imo, you should move this back to Help. This is gonna need a lot of work before it can get ranked.
lolcubes
osu! Alumni
4,437 posts
Joined November 2010
lolcubes
Please give kudosu only to useful mod posts, don't give them to people who didn't mod (this includes providing guest diffs).
Sekai
6,376 posts
Joined February 2011
Sekai
remove Blazing Teens from the tags list o-o
Kuma-san
428 posts
Joined June 2010
Kuma-san
[General]
Add Lead-in on all diffs
[Hard]
00:37:384 - emm?break?
00:42:763 - add note
01:07:221 - Again break...ok.MAYBE ADD SPINNER?
01:10:901 - add note
=__= Thats all because i don't want mod it
Crimmi
1,947 posts
Joined June 2009
Crimmi
Modding, CrimmiStyle!!

[General]

The Artist is supposed to be "May'n & Megumi Nakajima" like No_Gu said before.
I think that "macross frontier" has to be "Macross Frontier"
There isn't a preview point set, i suggest 00:40:487 as a good preview point.

[Pereira's Easy]

00:12:763 (5) - Remove finish.

Nice difficulty.

[Normal]

Your sliders need work in this diff.

00:03:660 (9) - New Combo.
00:05:729 (1) - Remove New Combo.
00:06:970 (4) - New Combo.
00:24:350 (3) - move this 2 grids down.
00:26:418 (1) - Remove NC.
00:26:832 (2) - New Combo.
00:32:212 (5,6) - Spacing please.
00:33:453 (1) - Remove Clap and Add Finish.
00:33:453 (1,2,3,4,5) - i don't know what kind of pattern you was making there but it looks messy so i suggested one for you: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/180457
00:37:177 (1) - Remove Finish.
00:59:108 (4,5) - Stack under (1).
01:03:660 (8) - New Combo.
01:02:832 (1) - New Combo.
01:06:556 (4) - New Combo.
01:08:212 (9) - New Combo.

[Hard]

00:00:763 (2) - Remove Finishes.
00:02:832 (3) - Align with (2).
00:11:108 (3) - Spacing.
00:24:350 (5) - Spacing.
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