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T-Pistonz+KMC - Tsunagari Yo (TV Size)

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Topic Starter
Kogure
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on viernes, 14 de octubre de 2011 at 10:32:53 p.m.

Artist: T-Pistonz+KMC
Title: Tsunagari Yo (TV Size)
Source: Inazuma Eleven
Tags: LuPiiTa OzzyOzrock Soccer Football Super Once
BPM: 115
Filesize: 19382kb
Play Time: 01:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,86 stars, 86 notes)
  2. Insane (5 stars, 294 notes)
  3. LuPiiTa's Hard (4,71 stars, 189 notes)
  4. Normal (3,69 stars, 134 notes)
  5. Ozzy's Taiko (4,89 stars, 401 notes)
Download: T-Pistonz+KMC - Tsunagari Yo (TV Size)
Download: T-Pistonz+KMC - Tsunagari Yo (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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1st beatmap, and first beatmap ranked!
Inazuma Eleven Opening 3.


Re-Dowload Needed - (13-10-11).

Updates
Easy Difficulty: Complete.
Normal Difficulty: Complete.
LuPiiTa's Hard: Complete! (Credits to LuPiiTa)
Ozzy's Taiko: Complete (Credits to OzzyOzrock)
Insane Difficulty: Complete
Combobursts added.
New Inazuma Eleven Skin Added (By me. Soccer Sliderball and a HD Fail-background by PoochyEXE).
Fixed spacing problems.
Fixed offset.
Finally pending, Hope this is my first ranked map.
Updated skin.
Hitsounds added.
Thanks to everyone that colaborated in this beatmap in any way!
Ekaru
The problem here is spacing. Read this:



Go through your map and fix the spacing. Then, repost in my mod queue regardless of how many maps are in it at the time and I'll check it again.
Ekaru
OH, now I figured out the problem. Your offset is not only off, your hit objects are snapped to another timing altogether!

The offset is 14359 I think, but the game's glitching up so I can't check. Go ask in #modHelp, because you need the correct offset before you can fix this issue.
Crimmi
Crimmi to the rescue!!

BPM: 115.00
Offset: 2,055

I might be a bit off though but i'll continue checking.

Good Luck!
Ekaru
For spacing, try Distance Snap. It's better but still needs some work. In the lower right-hand corner of the screen there's a distance snap button. Enable it, and then respace each combo (the spacing between combos is irrelevant). You're in synch with the music now which is good, you're almost there! Be strong! Imagine Endo saying you can do it if you have to!

Insane:

00:26:837 (1) - Make this spinner end when the "chi" ends, to be in synch with the music.

Normal:

Same as Insane.

Easy:

00:11:443 (1) - Delete this spinner, it's random.
00:17:704 (2,3,4) - Okay, you definitely need to use distance snap. This is hard to read.

Just use distance snap for now until you become a more experienced mapper. It's a good learning aid. It'll take you only a few minutes to respace with distance snap. I know; I had to do it before when I started mapping over two years ago.
akrolsmir
General:
If I were you, I'd adjust most maps by using distance snap. Make sure the distance snap icon on the right side of the screen is darkened, not faded. This way, notes you place will be at a logical distance from the previous one. Then, to readjust, drag each note after the first, and distance snap will show you where it can be placed. So I'll ignore minor spacing infringements and focus on the major ones as well as other things to mod, assuming that you fix the above.

Easy:
00:10:794- Place a circle here
01:22:400 (1) - Very confusing for an easy, since it's completely covered by the previous note. Think about a different pattern.
01:21:356 (1) to 01:27:095 (1) - Too many new combos, try spacing them every four beats or so.

Normal:
00:13:921 (3) - Too close to (2)
00:30:226 (3,4,5) - Spacing errors
00:47:704 (3) - Too far from (2)
00:59:182 (2,4) - Too far away from previous notes
01:04:400 (3) - Too far from (2)
01:29:639 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing
Also, same issues about combos as above, and the overlapping patterns.

Insane:
Erratic jumps are a bit more acceptable, but your streams should follow distance snapping.
00:16:924 (6) - There's no way to know this is a repeat slider since (5) obscures it.
00:18:489 (11) - ^
Do you really have to copy and paste an earlier section to save work here? It makes it a little repetitive.

Overall, the timing was pretty good, but the lack of spacing really detracted from the map. Fix the spacing in general, PM me, and I'll be glad to take a second look and probably give a star.
Topic Starter
Kogure
K, spacing done: Comment :)
Kurowolfe
Hi there~
Here's the mods for your maps:
kurohacker's mod
[General]
Erm, the distance spacing that you use is rather short, maybe you can use 0.8x for Easy and 1.2x-1.4x for Normal. Insanes usually don't apply distance spacing, since it's more towards getting a nice pattern while maintaining the 'sense' of spacing. (correct me if i'm wrong).

The kiai time is also extraordinarily long, which is not really acceptable. Shorten it, with one suggestion being starting at the second repeat of the chorus, stopping before all the "Zettai!"s. It's up to your creativity.

Also, please resnap all the notes in all the diffs by doing this: F6 --> Tick on "Snap objects to new timing" under "When applying timing changes..." --> Click OK.

Don't forget to use hitsounds like claps and finishes in these maps, coz they sound kinda monotonous now.

Can you reduce the hitsounds volume a bit, maybe to 70%? My ears are hurting from all the slider body noise. @.@

[Easy]
0:02:576 [x] - Add a circle here, he starts singing here anyway
0:05:707 [5] - New combo here.
0:10:402 [4] - New combo here.
0:19:272 [5] - You should place this somewhere else, and not on slider [1], it's rather confusing.
0:33:881 [2] - I suggest that you remove this and fill it with shorter sliders and notes, he is rapping here anyway.
1:15:620 [1,2] - I don't like the placement of these notes, maybe you can flip them vertically? (select them and press Ctrl+J). Don't forget to adjust the spacing afterwards.
1:21:359 - 1:24:359 - I know you wanted to follow all the "Zettai!"s and made these sliders, but they're not suitable for an Easy, as in they're quite hard for a beginner. I think you can just put circles only on the 'Ze' points and not on the 'ttai' points.
1:27:620 [spinners] - I suggest you combine these two spinners into one.

[Normal]
The faster slider speed at certain points is rather suprising, can you standardize the speed throughout the map?
If not, then this one feels more like a Hard than a Normal...

1:12:228 [2,3] - Maybe it's better to stack these two (putting them on top of each other).
1:14:315 [5,6] - Same here.
1:16:924 [1-4, 1-5] - Can you change the notes so that they look like this?

1:29:576 [1-4] - Push all these notes 1/4 beats back on the timeline.

[Insane]
Can you increase the circle size by 1, like in Normal? This one's too small!
The combo lengths should generally be less than 10 (except in the case of streams, or lots of notes within 1/4 beats of each other), so I hope you can adjust the combos to follow this.

1:08:576 [13] - I think you should delete this.
1:10:402 [12] - Same here.

This is actually kinda good, but you'll need to work on this one more.

There are a lot of major issues with the maps, so I can't star this one just yet :| . But, they have the potential. So, I hope that you can get more mods first and apply them (including mine), and request for a recheck after that by PM. I'll be glad to star you then.
All the best for your maps! :)

(P/S: I think I'm getting brainwashed with all the Zettai's XD)
Gomo Psivarh
Hi :)

[general]
The music is 256kbps, the limit is 128-192kbps.

Why use so many greenlines to change slider speed? It's no need at all.
For most maps, 3 different slider speed are enough.
Remove those green lines and remap... since the slider length will change...

Do not set AR higher than OD.

BONUS 80000!
Topic Starter
Kogure

Gomo Psivarh wrote:

Hi :)

[general]
The music is 256kbps, the limit is 128-192kbps.

Why use so many greenlines to change slider speed? It's no need at all.
For most maps, 3 different slider speed are enough.
Remove those green lines and remap... since the slider length will change...

Do not set AR higher than OD.

BONUS 80000!
ok i changed the song's kbps to 192kbps
and i removed most of the speed change green lines
btw thx for star :)
Kamure
ok

Here's the mod:

[Easy]
  1. 00:15:098 (6) - it's placed badly in the timeline and in placement, remove it
  2. 00:19:794 - do we really need a few green timing sections changing the speed here? No, we do not. Take them out and remap this section
  3. 00:25:011 (1) - remove combo
  4. 00:36:489 - stop with the timing sections already..... But if you have to, move it to 00:37:272 and change (5)
  5. 01:22:924 (4,1) - spacing.....
[Normal]
  1. 00:15:620 - put another timing section here to put the speed back to normal, change the spacing in the next section
  2. 00:19:794 - I don't really like the sudden change in speed in this section, make it more gradual or keep it the same the whole time
  3. 00:28:924 - (*Note) Keep the speed here and change before, this seems ok...
  4. 00:35:968 (5) - 3 grids right, 2 grids down
  5. 00:36:489 (6) - the sudden jump here doesn't seem too fitting...
  6. 00:47:707 (3,4) - move closer to (2)
  7. 00:52:663 (2,3) - spacing...
  8. 00:54:228 - NO!!! please, change the speed back...
  9. 01:03:359 - ugh, I hate copy+paste stuff.... same issues
  10. 01:17:707 (2,3,4,1,2) - the overlapping here looks really bad, spread them them out more

[Insane]
  • Ok, this is just horrible.... No offense.. But please keep these in mind...
  1. Stop using the timing sections to change speed, that's a big issue.
  2. Spacing must be constant in the same section
  3. Do not be a Smooth Criminal
  4. Look at other good beatmaps and see their spacing
Uh, yeah....

Star! still.....
Topic Starter
Kogure
ok

Here's the mod:

[Easy]
00:15:098 (6) - it's placed badly in the timeline and in placement, remove it
00:19:794 - do we really need a few green timing sections changing the speed here? No, we do not. Take them out and remap this section
00:25:011 (1) - remove combo
00:36:489 - stop with the timing sections already..... But if you have to, move it to 00:37:272 and change (5)
01:22:924 (4,1) - spacing.....

[Normal]
00:15:620 - put another timing section here to put the speed back to normal, change the spacing in the next section
00:19:794 - I don't really like the sudden change in speed in this section, make it more gradual or keep it the same the whole time
00:28:924 - (*Note) Keep the speed here and change before, this seems ok...
00:35:968 (5) - 3 grids right, 2 grids down
00:36:489 (6) - the sudden jump here doesn't seem too fitting...
00:47:707 (3,4) - move closer to (2)
00:52:663 (2,3) - spacing...
00:54:228 - NO!!! please, change the speed back...
01:03:359 - ugh, I hate copy+paste stuff.... same issues
01:17:707 (2,3,4,1,2) - the overlapping here looks really bad, spread them them out more


[Insane]
Ok, this is just horrible.... No offense.. But please keep these in mind...

Stop using the timing sections to change speed, that's a big issue.
Spacing must be constant in the same section
Do not be a Smooth Criminal
Look at other good beatmaps and see their spacing
:oops: here's the deal, i will mod easy and normal and i will remake insane :P
Kamure
Ok, Re-mod!!

I might as well mod LuPiiTa's diff...

LuPiiTa

  1. 00:26:576 (1,2) - eh, manually change the spacing here
  2. 00:44:837 (2) - finish?
  3. 01:25:533 (1,2,3,4) - hmmm, there's something irregular I'm getting from this, it seems like a let-down
Insane

Well, it's MUCH better, and it's almost perfect.
Two major things, MAKE IT LOUDER and PUT MORE HITSOUNDS.

  1. 00:02:576 (1,2,3) - the spacing here doesn't fit with what's next
  2. 00:16:924 (7) - new combo
  3. 00:37:533 (3,4) - spacing
  4. 00:48:750 (11) - new combo
  5. 00:52:141 (1,2) - spacing
  6. 00:55:011 (5,6) - ^
  7. 00:55:533 (8) - a bit weird looking isn't it?
  8. 01:26:576 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - make sure it's all equal spacing
Much better!!~

Kudosu star!!
HakuNoKaemi
hmmm,
Will do many post's, for now just principal things

[Timing]
It's better if the metronome follow the voice...
Use Offset: 2650 ( No scale or Snapping to new timing now )

[Easy]
You can resnap automatically with 1/2
Please, an Easy is SLOW, and using Section that make it even more SLOWER is not good... Don't use x0.5 section

[Hard]
You can resnap automatically with 1/4, Select all the Note's and move them 1/4 foward as they are on the White Tick
Please, STOP using so many Slider Velocity Change sections all-over the map... Try to use less Slider Velocity multiplier, trying to not use < x0,75 sections

[Insane]
You can resnap automatically with 1/4, Select all the Note's and move them 1/4 foward as they are on the White Tick
Same as Hard, i don't like how you use so many Slider Velocity Change...

As now... far from starring.

I Will recheck indepthly after you do those change
Topic Starter
Kogure

chamelepeace710 wrote:

Ok, Re-mod!!

I might as well mod LuPiiTa's diff...

LuPiiTa

00:26:576 (1,2) - eh, manually change the spacing here
00:44:837 (2) - finish?
01:25:533 (1,2,3,4) - hmmm, there's something irregular I'm getting from this, it seems like a let-down

Insane

Well, it's MUCH better, and it's almost perfect.
Two major things, MAKE IT LOUDER and PUT MORE HITSOUNDS.

00:02:576 (1,2,3) - the spacing here doesn't fit with what's next
00:16:924 (7) - new combo
00:37:533 (3,4) - spacing
00:48:750 (11) - new combo
00:52:141 (1,2) - spacing
00:55:011 (5,6) - ^
00:55:533 (8) - a bit weird looking isn't it?
01:26:576 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - make sure it's all equal spacing

Much better!!~

Kudosu star!!
Done but i am noob putting hitsounds :S btw thx for your stars :)

HakuNoKaemi wrote:

hmmm,
Will do many post's, for now just principal things

[Timing]
It's better if the metronome follow the voice...
Use Offset: 2650 ( No scale or Snapping to new timing now )

[Easy]
You can resnap automatically with 1/2
Please, an Easy is SLOW, and using Section that make it even more SLOWER is not good... Don't use x0.5 section

[Hard]
You can resnap automatically with 1/4, Select all the Note's and move them 1/4 foward as they are on the White Tick
Please, STOP using so many Slider Velocity Change sections all-over the map... Try to use less Slider Velocity multiplier, trying to not use < x0,75 sections

[Insane]
You can resnap automatically with 1/4, Select all the Note's and move them 1/4 foward as they are on the White Tick
Same as Hard, i don't like how you use so many Slider Velocity Change...

As now... far from starring.

I Will recheck indepthly after you do those change
OK, i know u want me to put the offset so it follows the voice but i am sure other modders will tell me to change, right now ot is a bit off but i am doing my best to get the proper offset.
In easy, i will resnap it to 1/2, almost done.
About the slider velocity changes or the green lines, i quit all of them, there are ones to determine the length of the kiai mode. in hard diff there is only one green line that changes the slider speed to x0.5 so it could fit
thx for the helpful modding =D
akrolsmir
General:
The offset is definitely off, slow down the song to .25x and listen to the metronome, you'll hear that the metronome tick occurs noticeably earlier than the beat from the song. Something like +40 on the offset fixes this. Give it a try, it plays a lot better.

Easy:
(BTW, these timing points are before the offset change).
00:07:011 (3) - Too close to (2)
00:16:141 (1) - Lengthen a quarter beat to fit 1/2 notes.
00:29:707 (1,2,3) - Stack these three or space them out properly in .8x; a random .4x is confusing.
00:55:794 (4) - Looks weird halfway under (3), consider moving down until it is completely separate, e.g:
01:10:924 (1,2) - Make these more symmetric
01:20:315 (1) - Not new combo
01:26:576 (2,3,4) - Spacing

Normal:
(This is after the offset change- it was here that it started affecting my score and thus made me notice it)
00:39:660 (3) - Doesn't fit rhythm- should be 1/2 beat long with 2 repeats instead of random 3/8th with 1 repeat. Delete the last point on this slider and it fits.
01:03:660 (2) - Start of this slider has no counterpart in music, change this to just a circle on

LuPiiTa's hard:
00:26:877 (2) - Move farther from (1)- the .5 velocity should not interfere with spacing like this.

Insane:
(After offset change)
00:16:181 (2,3,4,5,6) - I'm not a fan of overmapped streams like this, but I guess that's a personal preference.
Mostly fine besides the overmapped streams.

Much more playable now (after the offset change), good job! Starred.
wcx19911123
HI
You post in my mod4mod queue so please mod this : http://osu.ppy.sh/s/28561

[General]
Lead-in = 1 second or more

[Easy]
00:06:248 (2,3) - spacing
00:13:031 (4,5) - ^ an Easy diff should not have any jumps
00:52:683 (2,3) - 1 gird left
01:25:553 (1,2) - spacing

[Normal]
00:55:683 (2) - this slider start on a blue line,kinda unreadble
01:03:901 (2,3,4) - spacing

[LuPiiTa's Hard]
00:34:683 (3) - maybe a 1/4 repeat slider back is better

[Insane]
00:02:596 (1,2,3) - spacing
maybe add some jumps in some place is better,when the ending of the song you can make the spacing bigger

sorry for my poor english 0.0
LuPiiTa
lol por fin me paso por aquí , perdón por la tardanza :o

Mi mod~ >w<

General
Muy bien!, el skin me encantó~
Y mejoraste bastante desde la primera vez que jugué este map :)

Easy
No amontones tanto las notas, considera que ésta dificultad es para principiantes y se pueden llegar a confundir.

00:29:727 (1) - Clap
00:30:770 (3) - ^
00:33:901 (2) - Clap al principio del slider
00:34:944 (3) - Clap
00:35:466 (4) - Clap al final del slider
00:37:553 (1) - Agrega sonido de Finish solo a la primera nota del slider
00:52:683 (2) - Un cuadro (grid) a la derecha
01:03:901 (1,2) - Mejor has de nuevo esos sliders D:
01:15:118 (5) - Nuevo combo
01:15:640 (1) - Elimina el nuevo combo

Normal
00:56:335 (4) - Sin ofender, pero esto slider se ve algo mal, vuelve a intentarlo ;)
01:21:379 (1) - A partir de aquí está algo difícil, trata de no hacerlo tan Hard

Perdón por el mini mod, lo que mas te falta son hitsounds pero no sabría decirte así que mejor lo dejo a manos de alguien que sepa mejor

Hard
LOL mi dificultad, quizá le haga unos cambios a algunas partes

Insane
00:52:422 (2,3,4) - Se ven un poco mal, vuelve a hacerlos 8-)

Por lo demás, ésta dificultad me pareció muy bien (al menos para mi), solo debes mejorar la presentación de varios de tus sliders :)

Star + Kudosu star!
kanpakyin
Modding time.
[General]
  1. Your timing is absolutely wrong.That's unrankable.Please find someone to check it.
  2. Add LuPiiTa to tag.
  3. Remove unnecessary Lead-in.
[Easy]
  1. Why this difficulty only have the finish hitsound.You must add the clap and whistle hitsounds as well!!
  2. 00:04:161(4)-Add a new combo here.
  3. 00:25:031(6)-Bad and ugly arrangement.Also it'll make confused to newbie.
  4. 00:45:118(x)-This places is not appropriate to put a spinner here.There has some accent point here.
  5. 01:01:814(x)-^ Same.
  6. 01:03:901(1.2)-These slider are ugly...please change it if possible.
  7. 01:10:944(1.2)-wtf...These slider are too ugly...
  8. 01:21:379(1~)-For this part..Make the note like this is not a good idea.Well probably they are fine but they place still to random foe me.
[Normal]
  1. Why this difficulty only have the finish hitsound.You must add the clap and whistle hitsounds as well!!
  2. 00:08:335(1.2.3.4)-Inconsistent spacing.Please make the spacing more regularly.
  3. 00:11:466(x)-This spinner is too short in Normal.If possible,use some notes to instead of.
  4. 00:32:596(x)-I prefer add a beat here.
  5. 00:38:596(2)-Extreamly ugly.
  6. 00:43:533(4.1.2.3)-This type of arrangement will make confused to newbie.
  7. 00:56:335(4)-Weird slider!Also.the red point of the slider is unreadable.That'll make confuse.
  8. 00:58:422(1.2.3)-inconsistent spacing.
  9. 01:01:683(x)-Thi spinner is too short for normal
  10. 01:04:161(4)-A New combo here would be nice.
  11. 01:12:248(3.4)-Don't make 1/4 notes in Normal.That's unfair to the players.
  12. 01:14:335(3.4)-^ Same.
  13. 01:18:248(8.1.2)-Inconsistent spacing.
  14. 01:23:727(2)-Hidden!Don't do that in Normal.
[LuPiiTa's Hard]
  1. 00:21:640(1.2.3)-Inconsistent Spacing! The spacing is not same as the previous notes.
  2. 00:26:857(2)-New combo herew due to slider speed change suddenly.
  3. 00:32:335(4.5.6.7.8)-Inconsistent spacing.The spacing is not the same.
  4. 00:35:857(3)-Use some notes to instead of this slider.
  5. 00:45:901(x)-Please resnap this green line regularly due to here's the start of the Kiai Time.
  6. 01:00:509(1)-Don't stack here?
  7. 01:23:466(5)-A new combo here would be nice.
[Insane]
Have a quite check of this.You shou ld resnap all the green line!.
You can put some jump to make it more fun.
please check the spacing at the beginning.00:02:596(1.2.3)-

This mapset need more improvement :<
winber1
General

--add "LuPiiTa" to the tags

Insane

00:02:596(1,2,3) - the spacing is weird. Making it equal.
00;28:161(spinner) - finish?
00:55:683(5) - the slider should start here. Then add a note at 00:55:553 (where the slider had originally started at)
01:00:640(1) - unstack note? makes it more clear that it is 1/4 tick away.
01:11:335(x) - add note
01:12:379(9) - the stream should end on this note.
01:12:509(10) - delete this note and try adding notes at 01:12:640, 01:12:770(add a clap onto this note), 01:13:031, and at 01:13:161.
01:14:596(6) - move note 1/4 tick forward, and then fix spacing
01:04:292(1) - remove new combo
01:04:683(4) - new combo
01:27:509(x) - i feel it sounds better if you add a note here and delete the finish hitsound on combo 7


LuPiiTa's Hard

00:07:031(3,4) - switch these two notes around:
00:11:466(spinner) - add finish
00:16:683(3) - this slider should start 1/4 tick earlier (it ends in the same place tho). Then fix spacing
00:26:857(2) - spacing
00:40:553(5,1) - follow vocals more? I was consider starting the slider here instead of the note because the vocals end there, but it's fine to leave it as is since there are other background sounds that match the way these notes play.

Normal


00:08:335(1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3) - this may be a little tough for a beginner to follow. However, you have an easier difficulty, so i guess it's fine. (i'm not commenting on any other usage of the 1/4 tick notes)
00:14:335(4) - fix spacing
00:24:770(x) - either add a note here or fix the spacing of 00:24:509(8,1)
01:01:553(spinner) - start the spinner here
01:02:596(spinner) - add finish
01:03:640(2) - delete note
01:19:292(1,2,) - i would move this note a litle further away frmo the end of the previous slider
01:20:596(2,1) - even if there is a huge pause, I would not disregard spacing and put the note this close in a normal difficulty.

--You may want to rethink some usage of 1/4 tick notes. it's not a huge deal tho.

Easy

00:12:379(x) - add note with finish and with new combo
00:13:031(1) - remove new combo then move this note to 00:13:292 and fix spacing
00:34:901(spinner) - the spinner really should end here, and then add a note at 00:46:683. (I know the spinne is a little short tho for a beginner. If the spinner is too short, then just replace it with a note. I really don't think you should skip that note at 00:45:901)
01:02:596(spinner) - ^
01:04:422(2) - replace slider with a note
01:04:944(3) - start slider 1/2 tick back.

Nice map :3
Star~
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