09:57 ychao: : morning o/
09:57 ampzz: : Sup
09:59 ychao: : Can I ask you about my diff so far before I copy the patterns for my 2nd 'chorus'?
09:59 ampzz: : Sure.
10:00 ychao: : http://puu.sh/L0Lh
10:00 ampzz: : LOL hentai.
10:00 ampzz: : Obviously
10:01 ychao: : lol
10:03 ampzz: : go like this for the combo - http://puu.sh/LanY00:55:024 (1) -
10:03 ampzz: : ...
10:03 ampzz: : 00:55:024 (1) - http://puu.sh/LanY *
10:03 ampzz: : How you had it didn't match the metronome nor correct beat.
10:03 ychao: : ok
10:05 ampzz: : 01:04:624 (21) - no.
10:05 ampzz: : Just no.
10:05 ampzz: : It ruins the entire flow of the rhythm.
10:05 ychao: : map them out?
10:08 ychao: : wait you're talking about the return slider right? or the hitcircle no. 21?
10:08 ampzz: : Alright, first things first.
10:08 ampzz: : Finish up redoing the combos as described ^
10:09 ampzz: : Then send me the .osu
10:09 ychao: : ok working on them now
10:09 ampzz: : so I know what numbering you have
10:16 ychao: : http://puu.sh/Layq
10:17 ampzz: : Doing tax atm, give me 5 mins
10:18 ychao: : ok sry to be abother
10:18 ampzz: : Bother?
10:18 ychao: : lol yes
10:18 ampzz: : Nonsense, this is so I can teach more people how to fucking map shit properly.
10:18 ychao: : glad you think that way hehe
10:38 ampzz: : Alright, that was an unnecessary waste of time.
10:38 ampzz: : FDucking idiots.
10:38 ychao: : lol
10:39 ampzz: : Hmmm
10:39 ampzz: : No constant circles made by the combos plz.
10:39 ampzz: : Looks and plays boringly.
10:39 ychao: : which part?
10:40 ampzz: : Go from mid left to top centre, then mid centre to bottom right, then mid right to top centre and finally mid centre to bottom left
10:40 ampzz: : 00:55:024 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
10:40 ampzz: : This
10:40 ychao: : oh
10:41 ampzz: : The more you form it early on the better an idea you'll have for later on.
10:41 ampzz: : IE. If the song has a similar combo formation you can repeat this sort of 'idea'.
10:41 ampzz: : With variations.
10:42 ampzz: : As a note
10:42 ychao: : yeah, hence why I am asking your advice/help ^^
10:42 ampzz: : You can stack these - 00:55:709 (3,4) -
10:42 ychao: : ok great
10:42 ampzz: : Since it's the same sound it works nicely.
10:44 ampzz: : 01:04:624 - Remove this repeat slider and replace with a spinner which ends on 01:05:652
10:45 ampzz: : So...
10:46 ychao: : ok
10:46 ampzz: : 01:15:938 (35,36) - Remove the repeat on (35), drag your (36) back to 01:16:281 and extend it to 01:16:624
10:47 ychao: : got it
10:48 ampzz: : Forgot to tell you
10:48 ampzz: : 01:09:252 (13) - Remove this.
10:48 ychao: : ok
10:48 ampzz: : It's fine to have an audio lull here as it matches.
10:48 ampzz: : 01:20:224 - Remove.
10:50 ampzz: : 01:17:652 (38) - Instead of what you currently have which sounds wrong
10:50 ampzz: : something like - http://puu.sh/Lb0r
10:50 ampzz: : Is better.
10:51 ychao: : ah yes ok
10:51 ampzz: : Since it wont be a copy paste of previous
10:51 ychao: : mhmm
10:51 ampzz: : combo-ing like this http://puu.sh/Lb1k
10:52 ychao: : ok
10:52 ampzz: : Suggestion for 01:10:624 (16) -
10:53 ampzz: : Change this to a slider lasting for 1 stanza (up until the next red)
10:53 ychao: : ok
10:53 ampzz: : then change the 01:11:138 - to another lengthy slider.
10:54 ychao: : to the white?
10:54 ampzz: : Correction on the 01:19:024 (40) - change this to a full length slider and remove the note on 01:19:538.
10:54 ampzz: : Yes.
10:55 ampzz: : Lengthy slider is my lazy version of saying 1/1
10:55 ampzz: : Well, dumber way.
10:55 ychao: : lol got it
10:55 ampzz: : 01:21:595 (45,46,47,48) - same as previous.
10:56 ampzz: : Remove all 4 and change to two 1/1 sliders.
10:58 ampzz: : Oh, I would advise jsut doing a random placement instead of trying to form anything as I'm going to tell you to liven these sliders and combos up
10:58 ampzz: : quite a bit.
10:58 ychao: : ok
10:58 ampzz: : Moving onto this audio section 01:22:624 (47) -
10:58 ampzz: : You want it to go like - http://puu.sh/Lb8u
10:59 ampzz: : Which wraps the reverberating synthesized sound.
10:59 ychao: : mhmm
11:00 ampzz: : 01:24:852 (57) - since this is only a hard I would give this a change to a single circle.
11:00 ampzz: : The 1/1 gap is poerfectly fine as a normalfinish fills the void and sounds beautiful.
11:00 ychao: : ok
11:03 ampzz: : 01:29:309 - Remove beat.
11:04 ychao: : 1:32:052- ?
11:04 ampzz: : No, that makes sense.
11:04 ychao: : ok
11:05 ampzz: : Wait, we can jsut hitsound null the beat there
11:05 ampzz: : so put it back.
11:05 ychao: : ok
11:05 ampzz: : Actualkly, better idea.
11:06 ampzz: : Change it to a 1/1 slider.
11:06 ychao: : ok
11:07 ychao: : done
11:07 ampzz: : 01:32:224 - change this to a 1/2 repeat slider. that goes from red to red.
11:08 ampzz: : 01:33:424 - Remove beat and increase previous slider length to its white tick.
11:08 ampzz: : 01:35:995 - Remove this.
11:09 ampzz: : 01:36:167 - 1/1 slider.
11:09 ampzz: : 01:36:681 - 1/1 slider.
11:09 ampzz: : 01:37:195 - Spinner until 01:38:567
11:10 ychao: : ok
11:10 ampzz: : Then continue on.
11:10 ychao: : ok at least the pattern is decent now
11:10 ampzz: : Sound better?
11:10 ychao: : hell yes
11:11 ampzz: : Just play through it a few times and it matches synth/bass and drum hits.
11:11 ychao: : how about the audio section 02:11:824- ?
11:12 ychao: : I should match the synth, yes?
11:12 ampzz: : Yep.
11:12 ampzz: : Would be some amazing slider fun.
11:13 ychao: : oooh yes
11:13 ampzz: : Also as a pre-lead up to this
11:13 ampzz: : Have your combos end at 02:08:738 with a small break until it.
11:14 ychao: : ok
11:16 ampzz: : But yes, will be hounding for fun combos.
11:20 ampzz: : Also between the two end points I bookmarked
11:20 ampzz: : have a spinner
11:21 ychao: : ok
11:21 ampzz: : Same for 01:48:509 to next bookmark
11:21 ychao: : getting my mapping patterns straight first before perfecting the combos
11:22 ampzz: : Correction, it's on the red tick at 01:48:681
11:22 ampzz: : Which leads you to start mapping from 01:50:224
11:23 ychao: : great
11:23 ychao: : thx so much <3
11:23 ampzz: : Hards you can get away with spinner spam otherwise it's constant 1/2 map everywhere

11:01 ychao: : u busy atm?
11:01 ampzz: : Hmm, not particularly.
11:01 ampzz: : Multi-tasking like a boss.
11:02 ychao: : lol
11:02 ychao: : care to check my diff?
11:02 ychao: : or shall i ask later?
11:02 ampzz: : Sure
11:03 ychao: : http://puu.sh/M3M9
11:03 ampzz: : /np that song plz
11:04 *ychao is editing (Tantrum Desire - Reach VIP)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/55181]
11:07 ychao: : feels a little like a normal diff in some parts though XD
11:08 ampzz: : 00:43:024 (3) -
11:08 ampzz: : Remove repeat
11:09 ampzz: : Add slider start 00:43:367 - lasting until 00:43:709 -
11:09 ychao: : can i just silent that repeat?
11:09 ampzz: : Co-ordinates are:
11:09 ampzz: : No
11:09 ampzz: : it sounds shit.
11:09 ychao: : ok
11:09 ampzz: : Start point - x:276 y:136
11:09 ampzz: : Mid point - x:316 y:56
11:10 ampzz: : End point - x:404 y:60
11:10 ampzz: : Have this slider repeat.
11:10 ychao: : ok
11:11 ampzz: : 01:11:824 - Remove circle
11:11 ampzz: : 01:11:138 (17) - Repeat on this slider.
11:12 ychao: : how to check mid point coordinate?
11:12 ampzz: : 18Top right hand corner under the beat snap divisor.
11:12 ychao: : it shows the same values whether i click on the start/mid/end slider
11:13 ampzz: : Eh?
11:13 ampzz: : You just hover over the point
11:13 ampzz: : Can't select point nodes.
11:13 ychao: : ah ok lol
11:14 ychao: : i normally just click on those circles/sliders
11:14 ampzz: : Nope.
11:14 ampzz: : When I state 'point' that means all the slider node points.
11:14 ampzz: : Continuing on.
11:14 ampzz: : 01:12:167 (18) - x:388 y:180
11:15 ampzz: : 01:12:338 (19) - x:336 y:120
11:16 ampzz: : 01:23:138 (49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57) - why did you fuck this section up for?
11:16 ampzz: : It was better how you had it before.
11:16 ampzz: : Much better.
11:16 ampzz: : Now it's all just clustered and yuck.
11:17 ampzz: : I would've told you if it was messy/needed remapping when I went through it last time.
11:17 ychao: : lol ok
11:17 ampzz: : Now I will tell you to remap this entire area.
11:17 ychao: : =.=
11:18 ychao: : let's see if i recall my old mappings ^^
11:18 ampzz: : 01:43:881 (9,10) - No.
11:18 ampzz: : Offbeat sliders should rarely be used.
11:18 ampzz: : If at all.
11:19 ampzz: : Listen to how poorly it sounds at 100%
11:19 ampzz: : Then, remove one of the sliders
11:20 ampzz: : add a circle at the start and end.
11:20 ampzz: : Listen to how it sounds then.
11:20 ychao: : which one should I remove?
11:21 ampzz: : It'll require remapping anyhow as this section should at least try to make a pattern
11:21 ampzz: : Just use it as a placeholder change for now.
11:22 ampzz: : You can even just have it go circle on 01:43:881 - with a repeat slider on the white afterwards.
11:22 ychao: : got it
11:22 ampzz: : 01:47:138 (18,19,20,21,22) -
11:22 ampzz: : Listen to this in 100%
11:22 ampzz: : It sounds poor, right?
11:22 ampzz: : (Yes, I am being very harsh)
11:23 ychao: : harsh is good, i expect nothing less lol
11:23 ampzz: : Remove the circle on 18
11:23 ampzz: : Drag sliders so the start is on the white tick
11:23 ampzz: : Repeat end 21
11:23 ampzz: : Just do these randomly for now.
11:24 ampzz: : I'm marking what needs changing, then you can make it nicer afterwards.
11:24 ychao: : ok
11:24 ampzz: : Changing how I had the sound change
11:25 ampzz: : F6 at the end of kiai
11:25 ampzz: : Change to Normal 60%
11:25 ampzz: : 01:48:681 - Add inherited point here with Soft 75%
11:26 ampzz: : [F6 > Green +]
11:26 ychao: : mhmm
11:26 ampzz: : Meant to grill you on this
11:26 ampzz: : 01:59:824 (30) -
11:26 ampzz: : + something earlier..
11:27 ampzz: : 01:15:938 (31) -
11:27 ampzz: : Lazy as fk mapping.
11:27 ychao: : haha
11:27 ampzz: : Should be 2 circles and a 1/1 slider.
11:28 ampzz: : 1/1 slider means going from white to white.
11:28 ampzz: : Or you can do 2 1/2 sliders.
11:29 ampzz: : Place it randomly as that and have a listen to it.
11:29 ychao: : circle, circle, slider? or slider, circle, circle?
11:29 ychao: : ok
11:30 ampzz: : Either works.Ah right
11:30 ampzz: : ...
11:30 ampzz: : Fuck you osu
11:31 ampzz: : 01:33:081 (76,77) - Stuff like this is messy as heck.
11:31 ampzz: : Overlapsonly work if they're right through the middle of a slider on a hard.
11:31 ychao: : ok
11:31 ychao: : hmm yeah i see it
11:33 ampzz: : 01:37:195 (1) - change position to
11:33 ampzz: : 01:37:538 -
11:33 ampzz: : Shorten it to 01:38:567 -
11:34 ampzz: : 01:37:195 - Add circle.
11:34 ychao: : ok
11:35 ampzz: : 02:05:138 (42,44) - Messy overlaps.
11:35 ampzz: : As the hitburst blocks being able to see 42.
11:35 ychao: : ah yes
11:35 ampzz: : 02:06:510 (45,46,47,48,49,50,51,1,2,3,4,5) - Remap.
11:35 ychao: : ok
11:37 ychao: : just to be sure my old mapping here was better?
11:37 ampzz: : Yes.
11:37 ampzz: : For this set of audio anyhow.
11:37 ychao: : Roger that, thank goodness I still have that old map lol
11:41 ampzz: : Alright, going to be honest with you about your end.
11:41 ychao: : ok
11:41 ampzz: : It's painful.
11:41 ampzz: : Doesn't follow one or the other in both audio segments.
11:41 ychao: : hmm
11:41 ampzz: : If you're after that dominant synth sound.
11:42 ampzz: : I'll SS how it goes.
11:42 ampzz: : Going to be a few parts.
11:42 ampzz: : http://puu.sh/M4j0
11:42 ampzz: : http://puu.sh/M4jj
11:43 ampzz: : Just check timeline up top
11:43 ychao: : ok
11:43 ampzz: : http://puu.sh/M4k4
11:44 ychao: : beat snap divisor 1/2?
11:44 ampzz: : I have it like that to skip along
11:44 ampzz: : http://puu.sh/M4kB
11:45 ampzz: : Easier to skip larger sections or keep consistent 1/2 snap jumps alternating between them.
11:45 ampzz: : So, that's how it should all go
11:45 ychao: : ok amending
11:45 ampzz: : just randomly place stuff for now until you can make it look clean.
11:45 ampzz: : Give up on the horrible straight sliders.
11:45 ychao: : lol
11:45 ampzz: : I loathe styles that just use straight+angled sliders.
11:45 ychao: : curved is better?
11:45 ampzz: : Shows no imagination at all.
11:46 ampzz: : I mix them.
11:46 ychao: : i just cba to perfect them lol
11:46 ampzz: : Make them messy and give it to a slider faggot like myself to make them better.
11:46 ychao: : i get really annnoyed with imperfect curves
11:46 ychao: : kk
11:47 ychao: : gf's gonna beat me up with that last statement
11:47 ampzz: : I would much rather see someone attempt to make an interesting combination of sliders than see the same shit over and over.
11:47 ychao: : okok point taken
11:49 ampzz: : Work on all of this, make the kiai look more interesting since it's supposed to be the 'intense' part of a song and link me again.
11:49 ychao: : ok
11:50 ychao: : ty <3