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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, 11 November 2017 at 2:06:54 PM

Artist: sisyfuss
Title: the end (waiting to die)
Tags: alternative bedroom poppunk powerpop surf San Antonio
BPM: 190
Filesize: 7093kb
Play Time: 02:24
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maybe one day
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o/ from my modding q
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00:01:402 (2) - blanket better but actually 00:00:455 (1,2,3) - these should be spaced equally, I mean a space between 00:00:455 (1,2) - these two and 00:01:402 (2,3) - these two should be the same as between 00:01:718 (3,4) - these. As for normal spacing should be proportional to time and variations in lower diffs are discouraged
00:08:981 (7,8,9) - imao it shouldn't be so straightforward, you should make it a bit more angle (something like 00:12:139 (2,3,4) - there)
00:12:455 (3,5) - objects are too close
00:20:665 (10) - NC
00:28:244 (1,5) - fix overlap
00:33:928 (6) - better stack it with 00:32:033 (3) - this slider's tail bc of the overlap
00:40:560 (2) - something like this would be more comfortable:
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00:41:033 - maybe insert break? :D
00:43:402 (1,3) - those overlaps look really bad, you should fix them all in the rest of your map
00:46:560 (5,2) - ^
00:52:876 (8,1) - ^
00:57:297 (7,9) - ^ etc
00:48:139 (1) - remove NC
00:48:455 (2) - add NC
01:12:928 (6) - hard to follow when it's the only object on red line. Mb try this
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01:13:718 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This section should also be only on the white ticks, bc it's harder to click (especially for Normal diff) on red ticks
01:40:876 (2) - I think spinner would fit better (from 01:40:876 - to 01:43:718 - )
02:05:507 (3) - ctrl+h would be more comfortable (then you should fix object placement after)
02:21:928 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - as for Normal, it's a too long chain of circles, you should put a slider instead of some circles. I suggest you this
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don't make a fuss
00:06:139 (3,4) - instead of these two, what about a 1 repeated slider 8-)
00:10:876 (2) - I think it's hard to notice it since slider covers it
00:14:191 (7,1) - this jump (from circle to slider) is too straightforward and uncomfortable
00:15:612 (4) - should be spaced more
00:26:033 (1) - should be spaced a bit more
00:30:770 (10) - NC
00:32:033 (1) - remove NC
00:40:876 - what about a break?
00:45:455 (4,5) - jump is too straightforward :/
00:45:928 (7) - NC would be good
00:49:402 (5,1) - overlap
01:00:455 (9) - NC
01:01:086 (13) - NC
01:11:665 (7) - hard to notice
01:16:718 (5) - ^
01:10:876 (6,8) - overlap
01:20:349 - a stream would fit here
01:50:348 (7,8) - jump is~ you know :D
01:50:349 (7) - NC
01:54:139 (7) - ^
02:08:033 (7) - ^
02:14:191 (3,1) - jump is uncomfortable
02:24:455 (2) - what about a 1/4 slider

GL! :)
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o/ from my modding q
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00:01:402 (2) - blanket better but actually 00:00:455 (1,2,3) - these should be spaced equally, I mean a space between 00:00:455 (1,2) - these two and 00:01:402 (2,3) - these two should be the same as between 00:01:718 (3,4) - these. As for normal spacing should be proportional to time and variations in lower diffs are discouraged I tried to fix this...
00:08:981 (7,8,9) - imao it shouldn't be so straightforward, you should make it a bit more angle (something like 00:12:139 (2,3,4) - there) Fixed
00:12:455 (3,5) - objects are too close Fixed
00:20:665 (10) - NC Fixed
00:28:244 (1,5) - fix overlap Fixed
00:33:928 (6) - better stack it with 00:32:033 (3) - this slider's tail bc of the overlap Fixed
00:40:560 (2) - something like this would be more comfortable: Fixed
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00:41:033 - maybe insert break? :D Fixed
00:43:402 (1,3) - those overlaps look really bad, you should fix them all in the rest of your map Fixed
00:46:560 (5,2) - ^
00:52:876 (8,1) - ^
00:57:297 (7,9) - ^ etc
00:48:139 (1) - remove NC Fixed
00:48:455 (2) - add NC Fixed
01:12:928 (6) - hard to follow when it's the only object on red line. Mb try this Fixed
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01:13:718 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This section should also be only on the white ticks, bc it's harder to click (especially for Normal diff) on red ticks Fixed
01:40:876 (2) - I think spinner would fit better (from 01:40:876 - to 01:43:718 - ) Good idea, I've recently noticed lots of spinners in lower diffs.
02:05:507 (3) - ctrl+h would be more comfortable (then you should fix object placement after) Fixed
02:21:928 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - as for Normal, it's a too long chain of circles, you should put a slider instead of some circles. I suggest you this Fixed
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don't make a fuss
00:06:139 (3,4) - instead of these two, what about a 1 repeated slider 8-) Fixed
00:10:876 (2) - I think it's hard to notice it since slider covers it Switch some objects around.(Fixed)
00:14:191 (7,1) - this jump (from circle to slider) is too straightforward and uncomfortable Fixed?
00:15:612 (4) - should be spaced more Fixed
00:26:033 (1) - should be spaced a bit more Fixed
00:30:770 (10) - NC Fixed
00:32:033 (1) - remove NC Fixed
00:40:876 - what about a break? I prefer not
00:45:455 (4,5) - jump is too straightforward :/ It still follows flow nicely in my opinion
00:45:928 (7) - NC would be good Fixed
00:49:402 (5,1) - overlap Fixed
01:00:455 (9) - NC NC's work best on a downbeat
01:01:086 (13) - NC Why would I put a NC if its the last object into a break?
01:11:665 (7) - hard to notice Fixed
01:16:718 (5) - ^ Fixed
01:10:876 (6,8) - overlap Fixed
01:20:349 - a stream would fit here I considered a stream but I was following the guitar rather than claps.
01:50:348 (7,8) - jump is~ you know :D I still think it follows the flow, if others keep mentioning it, I'll see how I can change it
01:50:349 (7) - NC Fixed
01:54:139 (7) - ^
02:08:033 (7) - ^
02:14:191 (3,1) - jump is uncomfortable Fixed
02:24:455 (2) - what about a 1/4 slider Aesthetically that would look strange, it would also add an extra unwanted beat.

GL! :)


Thanks for the mod.
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newb mod incoming >.< also nice music taste there \o/
m4m for your mod-

don't make a fuss
00:33:297 (1) - nc?

00:37:086 (1) - nc? remove nc from the second white tick before

00:38:349 (1) - nc?

00:45:139 (2,3,4,5) - well that's pretty unexpected, consider making these jumps slightly easier

00:59:823 (1) - maybe new combo? big white tick

01:17:981 (7) - i think you could make this one slider into 2 small ones and a circle on red tick

01:56:349 (1) - no need for new combo there, instead make it on the big white tick slider

01:59:823 (7,8) - pretty weird pattern

02:10:560 (8) - nc?

02:11:823 (1) - nc?

nothing really to mod here for me, the map is great.


i feel like i didn't really help much, instead i'll just shoot a star
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Hello there, from that m4m, my turn now ^^ though it's not gonna be an excelent detailed mod as I'm new to mapping/modding overall, but I'll try my best to be at least somewhat helpful.. well I'm gonna mod maps that aren't wip, so. let's get started.

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Maybe add some hitsounds too so you can emphasize even more the rhythm and patterns ^^

Okay.. I think you should have ds enabled and chenge it to 1.0x in the mapset or 1.3x at max.. (and then resnap?) I think 1.5 is too much for this diff and some notes can get hard to reach by new players, the changes I'm gonna suggest here are using 1.0x as a reference and they all have the same purpose of decrease the spacing between each object, but hopefully you'll get the idea when I point them out, Imma use X and Y position to be more specific:

00:01:402 (2) - x:192 y:192
00:01:718 (3) - x:288 y:160
00:03:297 (4) - x:192 y:192
00:03:612 (5) - x:160 y:288
00:03:928 (6) - x:256 y:320
00:04:244 (7) - x:352 y:288
00:05:823 (1) - x:288 y:352
00:06:139 (2) - x:256 y:256
00:06:455 (3) - x:160 y:224
00:06:770 (4) - x:192 y:128
00:08:349 (5) - x:96 y:160
00:08:665 (6) - x:160 y:224
00:09:928 (8) - x:160 y:224
00:10:244 (9) - x:96 y:160
00:10:560 (1) - x:160 y:96
00:12:139 (2) - x:224 y:160
00:12:455 (3) - x:192 y:256
00:12:770 (4) - x:256 y:320
00:13:086 (5) - x:352 y:320
00:14:033 (6) - x:320 y:64
00:14:349 (7) - x:224 y:64
00:15:928 (1) - x:320 y:64
00:16:244 (2) - x:384 y:128 (well this one is better at the other ''side'' because when the player is finishing the slider he might think that 2 is the next object (even when the number says otherwise)
00:16:560 (3) - x:320 y:192
00:16:876 (4) - x:288 y:288
00:18:455 (5) - x:224 y:224
00:18:770 (6) - x:128 y:192
00:19:086 (7) - x:64 y:128
00:19:402 (8) - x:128 y:64
00:20:349 (9) - x:96 y:320
00:20:665 (1) - x:192 y:320

And so on..

00:20:665 (1) - Btw this shouldn't be a NC at all.. it seems out of place to me, you could really use an extra note in your combos at end for variety and since it's the last one it'd make sense to keep it with the previous combo, which btw you made them really clear and they're well used
00:39:612 (1) - ^
00:28:244 (1) - You.. don't think it's better to remove that NC? I think it'd fit the rhythm better and be more intuitive, but that might be me
00:43:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3) - I think the way you mapped this part fits better if used from 00:25:718 to 00:40:876 - The less intense part should have the ESS only while the intense part should have both ESS and 1/1 sliders.. it should present more variety and more dense notes - this logic can apply to your entire mapset
01:10:560 (3) - Even though I know it's a normal not a easy, this can be a complicated slider shape for newbies, and it seems a bit out of place to, most of your sliders have a curved angle thing you can recognize/memorize throughout the map, but this.. appears out of a sudden, consider that most people who'll play normal still barely know how a slider works.
01:20:665 (3) - ^ if you're gonna use these, save them for the most intense moments of the song, the climax and whatnot
01:23:823 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Nice
02:01:718 (11) - This can be more acceptable when representing the density of a song - this should prob appear once, here (and in other chorus)
02:04:244 - From this to 02:24:770 I feel like this part is asking for those more curved sliders like 01:20:665 (3)

Simple but fun map ^^ the way it needs to be.. I couldn't think of complex stuff, I think you have a better understand vision of those things than me, so.. yeah.


So.. the other diff (which is not a wip) is too hard for me >.<' I can try to mod it anyways if you want but I have 0 experience with this diff and therefore I can be even less helpful lol

But your map is cool dude.. I hope I was helpful smh and sorry for having very little actual content in my mod.. :/ Good luck with mapping! :D
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Hello there, from that m4m, my turn now ^^ though it's not gonna be an excelent detailed mod as I'm new to mapping/modding overall, but I'll try my best to be at least somewhat helpful.. well I'm gonna mod maps that aren't wip, so. let's get started.

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Maybe add some hitsounds too so you can emphasize even more the rhythm and patterns ^^ Yea I know Its just that I was having trouble hitsounding something this slow.

Okay.. I think you should have ds enabled and chenge it to 1.0x in the mapset or 1.3x at max.. (and then resnap?) I think 1.5 is too much for this diff and some notes can get hard to reach by new players, the changes I'm gonna suggest here are using 1.0x as a reference and they all have the same purpose of decrease the spacing between each object, but hopefully you'll get the idea when I point them out, Imma use X and Y position to be more specific: Fixed

00:01:402 (2) - x:192 y:192 |
00:01:718 (3) - x:288 y:160 |
00:03:297 (4) - x:192 y:192 |
00:03:612 (5) - x:160 y:288 |
00:03:928 (6) - x:256 y:320 |
00:04:244 (7) - x:352 y:288 |
00:05:823 (1) - x:288 y:352 |
00:06:139 (2) - x:256 y:256 |
00:06:455 (3) - x:160 y:224 |
00:06:770 (4) - x:192 y:128 }--Fixed
00:08:349 (5) - x:96 y:160 |
00:08:665 (6) - x:160 y:224 |
00:09:928 (8) - x:160 y:224 |
00:10:244 (9) - x:96 y:160 |
00:10:560 (1) - x:160 y:96 |
00:12:139 (2) - x:224 y:160 |
00:12:455 (3) - x:192 y:256 |
00:12:770 (4) - x:256 y:320 |
00:13:086 (5) - x:352 y:320 |
00:14:033 (6) - x:320 y:64 |
00:14:349 (7) - x:224 y:64 |
00:15:928 (1) - x:320 y:64 |
00:16:244 (2) - x:384 y:128 (well this one is better at the other ''side'' because when the player is finishing the slider he might think that 2 is the next object (even when the number says otherwise)
00:16:560 (3) - x:320 y:192 |
00:16:876 (4) - x:288 y:288 |
00:18:455 (5) - x:224 y:224 |
00:18:770 (6) - x:128 y:192 |
00:19:086 (7) - x:64 y:128 |
00:19:402 (8) - x:128 y:64 |
00:20:349 (9) - x:96 y:320 |
00:20:665 (1) - x:192 y:320 |

And so on..

00:20:665 (1) - Btw this shouldn't be a NC at all.. it seems out of place to me, you could really use an extra note in your combos at end for variety and since it's the last one it'd make sense to keep it with the previous combo, which btw you made them really clear and they're well used Fixed
00:39:612 (1) - ^ Fixed
00:28:244 (1) - You.. don't think it's better to remove that NC? I think it'd fit the rhythm better and be more intuitive, but that might be me Fixed
00:43:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3) - I think the way you mapped this part fits better if used from 00:25:718 to 00:40:876 - The less intense part should have the ESS only while the intense part should have both ESS and 1/1 sliders.. it should present more variety and more dense notes - this logic can apply to your entire mapset It's a bit tricky to make such a large difference, And I think the way it's map is fine as the more intense section is a bit harder to read I think.
01:10:560 (3) - Even though I know it's a normal not a easy, this can be a complicated slider shape for newbies, and it seems a bit out of place to, most of your sliders have a curved angle thing you can recognize/memorize throughout the map, but this.. appears out of a sudden, consider that most people who'll play normal still barely know how a slider works. Fixed
01:20:665 (3) - ^ if you're gonna use these, save them for the most intense moments of the song, the climax and whatnot Fixed
01:23:823 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Nice
02:01:718 (11) - This can be more acceptable when representing the density of a song - this should prob appear once, here (and in other chorus) Fixed
02:04:244 - From this to 02:24:770 I feel like this part is asking for those more curved sliders like 01:20:665 (3) Fixed

Simple but fun map ^^ the way it needs to be.. I couldn't think of complex stuff, I think you have a better understand vision of those things than me, so.. yeah.


So.. the other diff (which is not a wip) is too hard for me >.<' I can try to mod it anyways if you want but I have 0 experience with this diff and therefore I can be even less helpful lol That's fine, I needed more mods on my lower difficulties anyway, and you gave heaps of help and advice.

But your map is cool dude.. I hope I was helpful smh and sorry for having very little actual content in my mod.. :/ Good luck with mapping! :D


Thanks for the mod
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newb mod incoming >.< also nice music taste there \o/
m4m for your mod-

don't make a fuss
00:33:297 (1) - nc? Fixed

00:37:086 (1) - nc? remove nc from the second white tick before Fixed

00:38:349 (1) - nc? Fixed

00:45:139 (2,3,4,5) - well that's pretty unexpected, consider making these jumps slightly easier This is the Expert difficulty and the map is supposed to have rather unexpected patterns and jumps.

00:59:823 (1) - maybe new combo? big white tick Fixed

01:17:981 (7) - i think you could make this one slider into 2 small ones and a circle on red tick Fixed, but I found that the second slider worked better as a repeat slider

01:56:349 (1) - no need for new combo there, instead make it on the big white tick slider The whole jump pattern is a new combo every 2 objects. But I did put a nc on the Downbeat.

01:59:823 (7,8) - pretty weird pattern Fixed(ish)

02:10:560 (8) - nc? Fixed

02:11:823 (1) - nc? Fixed

nothing really to mod here for me, the map is great.


i feel like i didn't really help much, instead i'll just shoot a star


Thanks for the mod and star
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m4m

Don't make a fuss

In all map i don't like how you made jumps. They are uncomfortable, look bad and all jumps look like ordinary and the same. Also you can sutiate them much father to each other.
00:00:455 (1,2,3) - this pattern is uncomfortable. This is more comfortable, despite of the huge Ds https://i.imgur.com/KPF15JI.jpg
Why in the all first part sliders with one point ( i mean rounded sliders)? It semms strange, ugly, and etc. Use all types of sliders. And straight sliders also use.
00:01:718 (1,2,3,4) - then smth like this: https://i.imgur.com/BOGaWob.jpg
00:02:981 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - then smth like this: https://i.imgur.com/PC7CeDT.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/JJ8ZA3C.jpg
00:02:349 (1) - why Nc???
00:04:244 (1,2,3) - why this hasn't got a simmetry or blanket?
00:15:455 - there should be a note
00:16:244 (6) - this should be changed for 3 notes
00:22:402 - note
00:21:928 - it's advice for you. Try not to use tail of the slider in the big yellow tick. A head of slider is cool, but tail...
And etc.

All, that i told higher, throughout the map. You should work on rhythm and patterns. If you don't find here smth that you want to change in your map, i continue to write this mod. But now i think it's enough. Also in the Normal diff look at the blankets, they are not ideal.
So Good luck)))
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m4m

Don't make a fuss

In all map i don't like how you made jumps. They are uncomfortable, look bad and all jumps look like ordinary and the same. Also you can sutiate them much father to each other.
00:00:455 (1,2,3) - this pattern is uncomfortable. This is more comfortable, despite of the huge Ds https://i.imgur.com/KPF15JI.jpg The snapping jumps emphasize the quick sharp sounds in the guitar. Your suggested pattern is in flow which emphasizes the music poorly.
Why in the all first part sliders with one point ( i mean rounded sliders)? It semms strange, ugly, and etc. Use all types of sliders. And straight sliders also use.
There are no sharp sounds in the first section of the map. Red anchor sliders will emphasize the sound poorly. Also the rounded edges are more welcoming to the eyes, where as Sharp edges can be intimidating, I think the music is more welcoming rather than intimidating.
00:01:718 (1,2,3,4) - then smth like this: https://i.imgur.com/BOGaWob.jpg ^
00:02:981 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - then smth like this: https://i.imgur.com/PC7CeDT.jpg and https://i.imgur.com/JJ8ZA3C.jpg
00:02:349 (1) - why Nc??? Good question.
00:04:244 (1,2,3) - why this hasn't got a simmetry or blanket? Not sure what you mean. But I blanketed the repeat slider with another object.
00:15:455 - there should be a note Fixed
00:16:244 (6) - this should be changed for 3 notes I'm focused on the sound in the background.
00:22:402 - note There is no beat or sound on this tick.
00:21:928 - it's advice for you. Try not to use tail of the slider in the big yellow tick. A head of slider is cool, but tail...
And etc. Fixed

All, that i told higher, throughout the map. You should work on rhythm and patterns. If you don't find here smth that you want to change in your map, i continue to write this mod. But now i think it's enough. Also in the Normal diff look at the blankets, they are not ideal.
So Good luck)))
You completely missed the point of the map/mapping style. The map relies on irregular flow which most players aren't used to making this map sort of stand out in my opinion. Almost every object overlaps one another throughout the map. The first section is set up for next.



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As for aesthetics, uh, just make sure if u use blankets, make them perfect.
better, just blanket everything. pleasing to the eye.

Also AiMod to check DS, on Normal it's required.

don't make a fuss
oh shit a 5.53 star
getting me ass kicked
may wanna keep combo lengths somewhat consistent as well ex: 00:00:455 (1) 4 beats yet 00:05:507 (1) 8 beats.

Personally I wouldn't hate irregular rhythms but I do dislike uncommon flow. But then again, as some1 who can't even play I'd say map what u want, just try not to set off BNs lol. GL.
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As for aesthetics, uh, just make sure if u use blankets, make them perfect. I'll keep this in mind for next time.
better, just blanket everything. pleasing to the eye.

Also AiMod to check DS, on Normal it's required. Fixed

don't make a fuss
oh shit a 5.53 star
getting me ass kicked
may wanna keep combo lengths somewhat consistent as well ex: 00:00:455 (1) 4 beats yet 00:05:507 (1) 8 beats. New combo on a different sound which is also the downbeat.

Personally I wouldn't hate irregular rhythms but I do dislike uncommon flow. But then again, as some1 who can't even play I'd say map what u want, just try not to set off BNs lol. GL.


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