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Hanazawa Kana - Renai Circulation (TV Size)

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KayeSara
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KayeSara
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2012年1月16日 at 2:14:52

Artist: Hanazawa Kana
Title: Renai Circulation (Short Ver.)
Source: Bakemonogatari Monstory
Tags: JoJo cRyo[iceeicee] KDS Kanpakyin
BPM: 120
Filesize: 8531kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. cRyo (4.81 stars, 209 notes)
  2. Easy (2.18 stars, 89 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 321 notes)
  4. JoJo's Normal (4.33 stars, 167 notes)
  5. Kanpakyin's Hard (4.82 stars, 242 notes)
  6. Taiko DS (4.83 stars, 487 notes)
Download: Hanazawa Kana - Renai Circulation (Short Ver.)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My 1st map wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 各位神触大大投票的时候下手轻点啊
Thx for yukinohara's Skin
Kanpakyin's lyric SB and yukinohara's SB!
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Mapset
Insane
cRyo[iceeicee]'s hard
Kanpakyin's hard
KDS's Taiko
JoJo's Normal
Easy
Last edited by KayeSara , edited 69 times in total.
haha5957
1,433 posts
Joined July 2010
haha5957
First, two difficulty with 1.57 stars and 2.56 stars is too low. you need an harder difficulty


[Overall]

Almost every circles are not distance snapped.
Please turn on the distance snap and replace all circles.


Combos are too long (Easy difficulty has 33 combo long wooo, reduce those to about 4~6 each)

These things are basic things, so basically noone can give mod to the map that hasnt done basic things.
(this is not to offend you =D. Many beginner mappers experience this, which includes me ~)

do these things and call me back via Fourm PM:

1) Turn on the distance snap and place circles more nicely.
If you wanna place jumps, turn it off and place jump, and turn it on again for others.

2) shorten combos. your map has like 30 or above combos long and this is really bad thing. for Easy and normal, try 3~7

3) Sliders like 00:48:004 (32) - on normal, looks preety bad. try to make sliders look nicer (there are some sliders like this)

4) use 25% Playback rate and redo the offset. When I tried it roughly, I got about 1590. (your 1565 is too early)

5) remove 1/4 streams on normal(required) and try something else.

and..

try to look at other maps that are ranked.
You will notice that there are v~ery many difference between yours, and the ranked once.
(As i said this is not to offend you, I know this happens to many new mappers)

Look at others map and learn how they mapped. not just one map, take a look at many maps to learn new mapping skills.
for example I'll suggest you to take a look at :
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/22041 (by SamiPale)
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20759 (by kioukiou)
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20025 (by Natteke)

and I think you'll learn something from that =D







Oh. and if you are doing sliders, try to make them symmetrical :
For example : look at 01:58:966 (2,3) - on easy, move (2) one grid up and it looks much nicer then before.



Good luck ~ Noone has been a good mapper from the beginning!
KayeSara
Topic Starter
KayeSara
I have change a lot
haha5957
1,433 posts
Joined July 2010
haha5957
[General]
Much-Much-nicer then how it was. it still needs to improve more, but compared to before, you've improved a lot!
Keeping going on with improving your skills!

and..

I see you deleted previous difficulties and done all over again, then I prefer you to have :

Easy (about 2.5 star, just like now)
Normal (try to aim about 3.5~4.0 star)
Hard (above 4.5~star)

You don't need this many points to curve slider. you usually need 1 or 2 points if you are making simple sliders.
Try to use less curving point for simple sliders.

And if you are going to map 1:40 only, you need to cut mp3 files. (actually because you are beginner, I prefer you to map 1:40 only though o.o)
If you want me to do this then call me back again, or complete the map all the way through the music.





[Easy]
(Overall) - some circle/slider placements doesn't look good.
for example move 00:03:416 (5) left 1 grid and I think it looks much better then before.
another example is 00:45:416 (4,1,2,3), this is preety nice.
but see next 00:49:068 (1,2,3,4) - then you might find yourself saying "yeah this doesn't look good".

this modding will most likely to point out "make it look nicer~" thing.
I'll point some "nicely done


00:35:503 (1,2,3) - This overlap doesnt look good, Maybe try something like this :
00:41:242 (4,5) - align these properly
01:00:546 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this could look much nicer then now.
01:25:590 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - try to align these on curved line
01:39:676 (4,5) - you can make it look nicer o.o







Okay this is my modding. and I'll star this for now,
Try to look for many other modders, to get many different modding, and you'll see yourself have improved a lot!

You can still call me back if you want more from me but I would prefer to look for other modders!

good luck!
Pereira006
osu! Alumni
2,801 posts
Joined October 2010
Pereira006
cucucuc


easy

00:17:763 (1) - grid 1 right
00:36:024 (2,3) - look dowm. " can´t not 2 up to 3 pleasse fix this (because this is easy and not insane

01:18:807 (4,5) - grid 1 up
01:20:372 (6) - grid 1 up and 1 left

that all and have nice map :P

But Normal continue in progress.
Sorry I can mod this on normal I will wait if you finished normal or other diff just ask me PM or in-game and I will check again

STAR ! because you have nice map on easy and I like this song

I hope good luck
KayeSara
Topic Starter
KayeSara
Thanks for you modding, I have change it.

Pereira006 wrote:

cucucuc


easy

00:17:763 (1) - grid 1 right
00:36:024 (2,3) - look dowm. " can´t not 2 up to 3 pleasse fix this (because this is easy and not insane

01:18:807 (4,5) - grid 1 up
01:20:372 (6) - grid 1 up and 1 left

that all and have nice map :P

But Normal continue in progress.
Sorry I can mod this on normal I will wait if you finished normal or other diff just ask me PM or in-game and I will check again

STAR ! because you have nice map on easy and I like this song

I hope good luck
LuPiiTa
371 posts
Joined June 2010
LuPiiTa
Hello there~

General
BMP: 115,00
Offset: 1.656

I think its a better timing~


Easy
I don´t know if it´s my computer but some of the notes are out of the rhythm

00:03:416 (5) - Fix spacing
00:04:198 (1) - Delete new combo
00:17:242 (1) - Delete new combo
00:49:068 (1)- Again, delete new combo

Normal
I think it´s a little difficult, maybe change it to hard or make it more easy.
Notes are a little small, go to song set up and put Circle Size -1

Well i think this needs some hard work so, fight!

Star!! And love the song *-*
KayeSara
Topic Starter
KayeSara
I have change a lot.
But I don't konw how to improve the 4 stars difficuty, I use lot of different distance to make it nice.
So maybe the DS have mant faults?

LuPiiTa wrote:

Hello there~

General
BMP: 115,00
Offset: 1.656

I think its a better timing~


Easy
I don´t know if it´s my computer but some of the notes are out of the rhythm

00:03:416 (5) - Fix spacing
00:04:198 (1) - Delete new combo
00:17:242 (1) - Delete new combo
00:49:068 (1)- Again, delete new combo

Normal
I think it´s a little difficult, maybe change it to hard or make it more easy.
Notes are a little small, go to song set up and put Circle Size -1

Well i think this needs some hard work so, fight!

Star!! And love the song *-*
osuyo
225 posts
Joined December 2009
osuyo
8-)
Mastodonio
1,120 posts
Joined October 2009
Mastodonio
Hello.
General:
You have only easy and hard difficulty. why don't you have Normal difficulty?
If you're not going to make here SB,then delete OSB file here.
You have wrong offset here. try to put offset - 2164. It sounds much better now. Don't forget to resnap all notes then!
Put Preview Point in this song.


What about difficulties..I think it is better to fully remap this song.
By the way,I saw that LuPiiTa and Pereira006 modded your map and you changed something of what they said,but you didn't give them kudosu. So,you have to give them kudosu! And if my modding will be useful for you,then don't forget to give kudosu to me too ;)

Star
Backstep
1,007 posts
Joined September 2009
Backstep
[General]

Hard to mod because your music is Waltz rhythm.

[Easy]

00:02:096 (1) finish.
00:03:140 (4) clap.
00:04:183 (4) end slider change clap to whistle.
00:06:270 (2) delete finish then add whistle
00:07:314 (3) front of slider add clap.
00:09:401 (6) change clap to finish.
00:12:009 (5) delete finish.then add whistle.
00:35:488 (1) finish.
00:43:836 (2) ^
00:52:183 (2) ^
01:00:531 (1) ^
01:04:705 (2~4) ^
01:17:227 (1) ^
01:21:401 (1) front slider finish.
01:25:575 (1) finish.

[Hard]

Same Easy If you haven't add sound

star+
KayeSara
Topic Starter
KayeSara
I konw it is hard to mod, especially the rythem.
THX for you modding~
and if you have some sources about basic making rtthem foe me ~
I will really glad to watch it.

backstep wrote:

[General]

Hard to mod because your music is Waltz rhythm.

[Easy]

00:02:096 (1) finish.
00:03:140 (4) clap.
00:04:183 (4) end slider change clap to whistle.
00:06:270 (2) delete finish then add whistle
00:07:314 (3) front of slider add clap.
00:09:401 (6) change clap to finish.
00:12:009 (5) delete finish.then add whistle.
00:35:488 (1) finish.
00:43:836 (2) ^
00:52:183 (2) ^
01:00:531 (1) ^
01:04:705 (2~4) ^
01:17:227 (1) ^
01:21:401 (1) front slider finish.
01:25:575 (1) finish.

[Hard]

Same Easy If you haven't add sound

star+
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
[Easy]
Timing should be added where the song starts. Not the beginning. So either apply it at 00:00:444, 00:01:357 or 00:02:096.

This is gonna be harder to mod because of timing... I'll assume the notes are all timed.

Or... you could call me back later when you fix it, because things could probably change in the map as well with the timing change.

[Hard]
Not any easier to mod...

00:13:068 (2,3,4) - Always make sure than the spacing is all equal, like, it seems you used distance snap, but made it really close. If you WANT a close spacing, hold alt and scroll down, otherwise, ALWAYS apply it at the farthest length.

This could probably look good after fixing the timing. So yeah, when you fix that tell me.

EDIT: I think I was wrong about where you should've started it, because it still feels off.

Instead, make the offset 302, and use 1/4 instead of 1/6. This should be better. Afterwards, re-snap all the notes, and nudge them forward once. Then they should sync. Though, the BPM seems wrong too, but for now, it's just easier to mod.

[Easy]
00:16:214 (1) - Reverse this one more?

It all looks good, though some spacing is a bit off.
[Hard]
Do the same timing stuff here too, of course.

00:44:388 (2,3,4) - Like I said in the first mod, move the notes further away, or they seem like they come faster.
01:09:953 (2) - Another example. You usually do it after sliders, it seems.

When someone gives you the right BPM, it should be better. I'll star it though.
Nymph
osu! Alumni
3,243 posts
Joined December 2010
Nymph
Hi~这里是妮姆芙 新手MOD 请多关照~

Mp3切的结尾那里做一个声音渐变小一直到无声会更好吧？现在这样子玩到结尾之后音乐突然结束 应该会很别扭.

TIMING:
OFFSET: 1650 你的OFFSET明显错开了.上面有MOD谈到OFFSET了,怎么没改呢= =. 记得RESNAP ALL NOTES. 如果RESNAP后EASY的开头不在白线上,CTRL+A选中所有NOTES,拉到白线上.

EASY:

似乎没有什么错误 只是有许多可以做的更好的地方.
比如呢:00:03:215 (4) - 开头这里 如果3 4在同一竖列上 是不是会更好看一些 而且123和456的形状还不一样..我个人比较喜欢对称 所以偏爱一些相同的排列.
00:17:823 (3) - 这里跟2一条线上肯定更好看.
01:05:302 (3) - 这里太往上了 快挨到血条了 下来点.
01:21:476 (1) - 这个滑条结尾的FINISH感觉多余
嗯..没了呢 其实我觉得这个难度做完更好一些.

Hard:

首先就是你那个3连连续3个圈一个方向走的样式用的有点太多了这样会让图有些无聊..而且有的地方换用别的方法会更为舒服.还有就是多用些滑条.3个notes是3拍,一个来回的滑条也是3拍,一个note加一个短滑条也是3拍.这样多用些组合 会更舒服.

00:06:476 (3) - 比如这里 我确实觉得这里用2个note就足够了 3连并没有对上什么特殊的拍子之类的.
00:10:910 (3) - 这个也没什么必要
嗯..后面还有很多例子. 这里先不按细节MOD下去了.
还有就是排列也很重要 现在这样的排列有很多都不好看.我也知道这些不是能速成的东西...不过找一个风格BPM都跟你的MAP相似的你喜欢的歌曲稍稍学习模仿一下 应该没有什么坏处. 所以建议这个难度REMAP一部分.

额,大概就先这样了. 歌曲很棒,皮肤也很好看,干净的HITSOUNDS我相当喜欢~所以先STAR,需要RECHECK的时候再PM我吧.或者在游戏里PM我也成.
wmfchris
osu! Alumni
5,072 posts
Joined March 2008
wmfchris
[general]
-disable countdown
-put a preview time there
-offset 1640
-resnap all notes

General problem:
-> unstable new combo pattern, 試試每一句一次New combo
-> spacing不夠穩定 用distance spacing自己調一下，整首歌的spacing儘量統一

call me when you've finished :D
xihuanjiouzhenxi
xihuanjiouzhenxi
good~
Nymph
osu! Alumni
3,243 posts
Joined December 2010
Nymph
OK recheck request~

有的NOTE没SNAP好.
OFFSET改变了 所以各个时间线需要对好 很多时间线错开了
KIAL在01:08:944 (1) - 02:24:074 (4) - 开始更好一点？

Normal：

滑条速度1.6有点太快了= =
Spacing用的多少?有点迷惑 开头是0.6？
00:04:509 (6) - 这有点太难了 个人觉得要不改成一个来回的滑条 要不就把这3个叠起来 像这样?
后面的三连建议也叠一下 其实有不少三连都没必要 变成2个NOTE更舒服 试试看吧 本来用多了三连 这也不像NORMAL了..
00:07:379 (1) - 这里建议做个慢速的滑条？在两个白线中间 应该很适合歌曲 可以做个0.5的BPM TIMING SECTION在这里
00:12:102 (1) - 太直了 不好看..排列是个问题呢 我也不擅长 看别人MOD慢慢学吧
00:52:900 (3) - 这里..我今天刚被训过 说歌声不是这么跟的 这样会很别扭...所以现学现卖 我也觉得有点别扭了...蓝线放到红线上？后面也是（奇怪了。。在HARD难度就没出现这个问题了 都是在红线放的。。）

Hard:

也是有NOTE没有SNAP
有HITSOUND小错误 检查一下吧？我不太指的出来..
NEW COMBO
01:40:770 (1) - 转盘01:42:857结束？
节奏感觉都很好呢 听起来挺舒服的。

嗯 先这么多了~
KayeSara
Topic Starter
KayeSara
我就先改去了~
等你的回话真不容易啊
都等了24小时了 度日如年啊

Nymph_ wrote:

OK recheck request~

有的NOTE没SNAP好.
OFFSET改变了 所以各个时间线需要对好 很多时间线错开了
KIAL在01:08:944 (1) - 02:24:074 (4) - 开始更好一点？

Normal：

滑条速度1.6有点太快了= =
Spacing用的多少?有点迷惑 开头是0.6？
00:04:509 (6) - 这有点太难了 个人觉得要不改成一个来回的滑条 要不就把这3个叠起来 像这样?
后面的三连建议也叠一下 其实有不少三连都没必要 变成2个NOTE更舒服 试试看吧 本来用多了三连 这也不像NORMAL了..
00:07:379 (1) - 这里建议做个慢速的滑条？在两个白线中间 应该很适合歌曲 可以做个0.5的BPM TIMING SECTION在这里
00:12:102 (1) - 太直了 不好看..排列是个问题呢 我也不擅长 看别人MOD慢慢学吧
00:52:900 (3) - 这里..我今天刚被训过 说歌声不是这么跟的 这样会很别扭...所以现学现卖 我也觉得有点别扭了...蓝线放到红线上？后面也是（奇怪了。。在HARD难度就没出现这个问题了 都是在红线放的。。）

Hard:

也是有NOTE没有SNAP
有HITSOUND小错误 检查一下吧？我不太指的出来..
NEW COMBO
01:40:770 (1) - 转盘01:42:857结束？
节奏感觉都很好呢 听起来挺舒服的。

嗯 先这么多了~
Nymph
osu! Alumni
3,243 posts
Joined December 2010
Nymph

H-Miku wrote:

我就先改去了~
等你的回话真不容易啊
都等了24小时了 度日如年啊

Nymph_ wrote:

OK recheck request~

有的NOTE没SNAP好.
OFFSET改变了 所以各个时间线需要对好 很多时间线错开了
KIAL在01:08:944 (1) - 02:24:074 (4) - 开始更好一点？

Normal：

滑条速度1.6有点太快了= =
Spacing用的多少?有点迷惑 开头是0.6？
00:04:509 (6) - 这有点太难了 个人觉得要不改成一个来回的滑条 要不就把这3个叠起来 像这样?
后面的三连建议也叠一下 其实有不少三连都没必要 变成2个NOTE更舒服 试试看吧 本来用多了三连 这也不像NORMAL了..
00:07:379 (1) - 这里建议做个慢速的滑条？在两个白线中间 应该很适合歌曲 可以做个0.5的BPM TIMING SECTION在这里
00:12:102 (1) - 太直了 不好看..排列是个问题呢 我也不擅长 看别人MOD慢慢学吧
00:52:900 (3) - 这里..我今天刚被训过 说歌声不是这么跟的 这样会很别扭...所以现学现卖 我也觉得有点别扭了...蓝线放到红线上？后面也是（奇怪了。。在HARD难度就没出现这个问题了 都是在红线放的。。）

Hard:

也是有NOTE没有SNAP
有HITSOUND小错误 检查一下吧？我不太指的出来..
NEW COMBO
01:40:770 (1) - 转盘01:42:857结束？
节奏感觉都很好呢 听起来挺舒服的。

嗯 先这么多了~


= =下次你要着急的话 直接游戏里PM我 要不我又不知道你着急啊..
Hushu_old
207 posts
Joined October 2010
Hushu_old
Hello, I love the song, so, uh, cute =3

Easy:
0:16:258 - This combo fallows bum bum bum in the background which I am not sure I like... : Please change this by doing this:
~ 0:16:258 - Don't repeat, make it twice as long
~ Add a note at 0:17:041, change the note at 0:17:302 to a slider what goes till 0:18:345
0:18:857 - You could possibly add a note which is to be your new combo here~
0:43:389 - No nc, new combo the note after instead
0:47:563 - I would shorten it by half and move 1/1 forward
0:51:736 - remove please, nc the note after instead. This note is too silent for an easy.
0:55:910 (1,1) - Shorten by half put 1/1 forward both sliders. Second one repeat 3 times & remove note (2). You may also wish to put add a note at 0:57:977, that would be a nice idea~
1:08:432 - Remove, add a note where it ended after repeating instead and nc that~
1:20:432 - Remove both, do a slider from where 6 was to where 7 was of shape of the previous slider please~

Ask me for a mod of your other difficulties after you agree and do some of my changes :)
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