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FELT - Other Side

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MokouSmoke
495 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
MokouSmoke
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, July 01, 2015 at 10:07:31 PM

Artist: FELT
Title: Other Side
Source: Touhou
Tags: maika mika nagi☆ sevens head sekibanki dullahan under the willows double dealing character th14 zun Celeste
BPM: 168
Filesize: 4516kb
Play Time: 03:45
Difficulties Available:
  1. Celeste's Easy (1.73 stars, 230 notes)
  2. Hard (2.85 stars, 490 notes)
  3. Insane (3.71 stars, 597 notes)
  4. Lunatic (4.46 stars, 704 notes)
  5. Normal (1.99 stars, 287 notes)
Download: FELT - Other Side
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Because there's never enough FELT in the world ^.^

Easy - GD by Celeste
Normal - done!
Hard - done!
Insane - done!
Lunatic - done!
If you're interested (5/22/16):
I started getting into mapping about a year ago and this was the first set I tried to go for rank. Well needless to say, I was a very inexperienced mapper back then, and after a page of mods, I realized I just needed to improve my mapping skill in general to even have a chance to push this forward. I told myself to take a break from this set and started to map other stuff, hoping that a better mapper would eventually make a ranked version for this song so that I could enjoy it. Well, a year has passed, and a ranked version still doesn't exist. :( I'm still not a great mapper now, but I think I finally have enough skill and motivation to revive this and make a more enjoyable mapset, so stay tuned ;)
Changelog:
5/27/15 - Updated .mp3 quality
6/11/15 - Renamed "Hard" to "Insane" ; Added easier "Hard"
Last edited by MokouSmoke , edited 74 times in total.
Hanburgeric
28 posts
Joined December 2014
Hanburgeric
Hello! Dropping by from #modhelp! I'll be sure to do a full mod of this mapset once you complete it! Just PM me or shoot me a message in-game to let me know that it's been completed!

chatlog
09:23 MokouSmoke: what do you think?
09:23 Hanburgeric: uhhh just a second pls
09:24 Hanburgeric: ok going to go into editor to take a closer look
09:25 Hanburgeric: generally speaking your map feels really nice to play
09:25 Hanburgeric: and matches the star rating pretty well
09:25 Hanburgeric: no overwhelming jumps
09:25 Hanburgeric: streams/triples/five....les
09:25 Hanburgeric: feel nice to tap
09:26 Hanburgeric: one thing for sure is to remove the countdown in the 

beginning
09:27 MokouSmoke: mmm...yeah i forgot about that
09:27 MokouSmoke: i'm glad it felt nice
09:28 Hanburgeric: some parts have deceptive flow
09:28 Hanburgeric: or it just personally felt like that
09:28 Hanburgeric: for example
09:28 Hanburgeric: 00:18:983 (2,3,4,5) - the lead from 2 into the triplet
09:28 Hanburgeric: has an angle of entry that's a little too sharp/forced
09:29 MokouSmoke: i see
09:29 MokouSmoke: i think i can fix that
09:30 Hanburgeric: 00:26:840 (11) - i think you could make this slider 

prettier
09:30 Hanburgeric: though im no expert on sliders
09:31 Hanburgeric: i dont really detect a huge change in tone/rhythm of the 

song to warrant those kinds of sharp turns
09:31 Hanburgeric: so you could go for one that's curvier
09:31 Hanburgeric: flows nice and looks elegant!
09:32 MokouSmoke: yeah i was actually going for that, but I think i need to 

work on my slider design lol
09:32 Hanburgeric: yeah you can probably tell from my map that sliders aren't 

my forte either
09:33 Hanburgeric: http://puu.sh/hZkyI/ed2dc1c332.jpg
09:34 Hanburgeric: i think even if it doesnt look nice
09:34 Hanburgeric: a little change like this can improve the flow
09:34 Hanburgeric: and make it look better than before
09:35 MokouSmoke: hmm...i see
09:35 MokouSmoke: thanks!
09:36 Hanburgeric: 00:31:126 (4) - the direction of this slider contradicts 

the flow from 00:30:948 (3) - 
09:36 Hanburgeric: and might result in misses
09:37 Hanburgeric: 00:45:412 (1,2,3,4) - try to go for equal ds here
09:37 Hanburgeric: especially between 2/3
09:39 Hanburgeric: you could reposition 00:46:840 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) to blanket 

00:46:483 (6) for better visuals
09:39 Hanburgeric: 00:46:840 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 
09:39 Hanburgeric: to blanket
09:39 Hanburgeric: 00:46:483 (6) - 
09:40 Hanburgeric: 00:50:233 (6) try to sort out this one as well
09:40 Hanburgeric: why does it keep doing that D:
09:40 Hanburgeric: 00:50:233 (6) - 
09:40 Hanburgeric: you use a lot of unnecessary slider points
09:41 MokouSmoke: yeah i just keep adding them until it looks decent ><
09:43 Hanburgeric: like for the previous one
09:43 Hanburgeric: http://puu.sh/hZl1n/e080ceb55f.jpg
09:43 Hanburgeric: one red point
09:43 Hanburgeric: and one point in the middle to set the curve
09:43 Hanburgeric: would've done the job cleaner
09:44 Hanburgeric: 01:06:126 (6) - could be a nc
09:44 Hanburgeric: 01:11:483 (9) - place this further away from 8
09:44 Hanburgeric: to emphasize the gap in beat
09:45 Hanburgeric: 01:33:269 (1,2,3,4,5) - ds for these
09:46 MokouSmoke: ds?
09:47 MokouSmoke: ah nevermind i gotcha
09:47 Hanburgeric: distance spacing
09:48 Hanburgeric: 02:04:340 (6) - nc
09:48 Hanburgeric: this visually looks kinda iffy
09:48 Hanburgeric: 02:14:698 (1,2) - 
09:48 Hanburgeric: rotate 2 more
09:49 Hanburgeric: anticlockwise
09:49 Hanburgeric: 02:18:983 (3) - nc
09:49 Hanburgeric: 02:21:840 (7) - nc
09:50 Hanburgeric: whoops forgot this one
09:51 Hanburgeric: 02:21:840 (7) - try to align it so that the slider head 

begins at 02:21:305 (5) - and ends at 02:21:483 (6) - 
09:51 Hanburgeric: (will require slight rotating too)
09:51 Hanburgeric: then move it down and to the left slightly to avoid 

overlap
09:51 Hanburgeric: it'll look better
09:52 MokouSmoke: wait so do you think its better to overlap or not?
09:52 Hanburgeric: oh no im saying overlap it first so you get it aligned 

properly
09:52 Hanburgeric: then remove the overlap and back into the original 

position
09:53 MokouSmoke: ah gotcha
09:53 Hanburgeric: 02:53:090 (1,2) - even when playing this caught me off 

guard since there are no instrumentals here....i think getting rid of them 

would be better imo, up to you
09:53 Hanburgeric: 02:55:769 (5) - nc
09:54 Hanburgeric: 03:06:394 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this decreases 

distance towards the end
09:54 Hanburgeric: i liked playing this stream a lot so i would actually 

prefer it to be distanced wider than this
09:55 MokouSmoke: mmm ok
09:55 Hanburgeric: 03:13:269 (7) - could be nc, up to you
09:57 Hanburgeric: ok i think that's about it
09:57 Hanburgeric: i think i'll just leave one general comment with
09:57 Hanburgeric: 01:15:948 (5) - 
09:57 Hanburgeric: this as reference
09:57 Hanburgeric: you can make a perfectly symmetrical/circular slider
09:57 Hanburgeric: with just 3 points
09:58 MokouSmoke: ok thanks a lot!
09:58 Hanburgeric: http://puu.sh/hZlQ8/f12a687c10.jpg
09:58 Hanburgeric: like so
09:58 MokouSmoke: you're much better at critique beatmaps than i am ><
09:58 Hanburgeric: to make them symmetrical (unless there's a red point, then 

that mixes things up)
09:59 Hanburgeric: just make the middle point as close to the center of the 

slider as possible
09:59 Hanburgeric: i think that's it!
Crimmi
1,947 posts
Joined June 2009
Crimmi
Hello there~

[Normal]

Maybe you could raise the AR to 5, it felt a bit slow at your chosen AR rate in my honest opinion.
the OD could be raised a tad to 4 or 5, it felt a bit on the easy side for a Normal to me.

00:18:269 (5) - This blanket could be fixed up a bit.
00:36:126 (1,2,3) - Maybe try this method:
SPOILER
00:47:377 (2) - Maybe add a finish at the end?
00:49:340 (1) - It'd be cool to see a fade in transition with this slider, (Meaning, 4 green lines going from soft to normal.) also remove the new combo here and apply it to 00:51:840 (3) here, it makes a bit more sense here. Also the blanket here could also use a bit of clean up~
00:54:698 (1) - I suggest you move this to here, it felt cluttered between (4) & (5).
01:18:448 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:19:162 (1) - ^
01:19:876 (1) - ^
01:20:412 (2) - Add new combo here after removing the previous ones mentioned before.
01:22:377 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:23:269 (3) - After removing the new combo from 01:22:377 (1), add a new combo here.
01:28:626 (1) - Imo, the finish would sound better than the clap.
01:30:412 (4) - Remove clap~
01:33:269 (3) - ^
01:33:983 (1) - Remove new combo, then apply it to 01:34:698 (3), removing the clap and leaving the finish. Also remove the new combos on 01:35:769 (1), 01:36:305 (1) and 01:36:840 (1) respectively.
01:38:983 (1,2) - remove new combo on (1) and apply it to (2).
01:49:162 (1) Maybe extend this to 01:51:662.
01:58:983 (1) - Maybe add a finish here~
02:08:983 (1) - remove new combo and apply it to 02:10:412 (3) adding a finish hitsound, follow by removing the new combo on 02:11:840 (1).
02:13:269 (1) - Maybe add a finish here?
02:18:983 (1) - Remove clap.
02:21:843 (1) - ^
02:27:198 (3) - Remove finish, add it on 02:27:555 (1) in the repeat of the slider.
02:29:162 (2) - Remove finish.
02:31:662 (1,1) - remove the new combo and then a remove it at 02:32:376(1) then add it on 02:33:269 (3) (6 if you did the new combo)
02:37:376 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:40:412 (1) - ^ also remove the finish.
02:42:555 (3) - Add a finish at the slider end or remove one repeat from the slider, bring 02:43:269 (1) back a red tick and extend this to 02:44:698.
03:00:055 (1) - remove new combo
03:13:626 (1) - ^
03:18:626 (1,1) - ^

[Insane]

Tested this out before I even got started and I think AR 9 is pushing it a bit, maybe dial it down to 8.

00:22:006 (7) Maybe add a new combo here, and remove the one on 00:22:198 (1).
00:26:840 (11) - This slider could be better, maybe thiscould be a suggestion.
00:38:983 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Why not make it similar to 00:38:269 (6,7,8,9,1)?
00:56:126 (1) - I rather see this as a curved slider than a straight slider.
00:57:555 (1) - Add finish.
01:03:314 (1) - Remove clap.
01:08:983 (1) - Add a finish at the head of the slider.
01:14:340 (8) - Maybe couple it with 01:13:626 (4,5,6,7) to complete a star pattern instead of making it a random jump.
01:14:698 (1) - Add a finish.
01:39:698 (1,2,3,4,5) - This could've been a nice star pattern~
01:46:126 (7) - Add a new combo here.
01:48:983 (14) - ^
01:49:519 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:18:269 (1) - ^
02:42:555 (3,4,5,6) - Make this a square pattern.
02:43:269 (1) - Extend this spinner to 02:44:698.
02:53:090 (1,2,3,4,5) - There is a bit of inconsistency with the spacing.
03:18:269 (1,1,1) - Maybe form a triangle jump here~

Overall, this map could use a bit of more work, with the placement of hit sounds and the jumps on the Lunatic diff, but nevertheless, i'll check back when the full map is out~ good luck :oops:
MokouSmoke
495 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
MokouSmoke

Crimmi wrote:

Hello there~

[Normal]

Maybe you could raise the AR to 5, it felt a bit slow at your chosen AR rate in my honest opinion.
the OD could be raised a tad to 4 or 5, it felt a bit on the easy side for a Normal to me.

00:18:269 (5) - This blanket could be fixed up a bit.
00:36:126 (1,2,3) - Maybe try this method:
SPOILER
00:47:377 (2) - Maybe add a finish at the end?
00:49:340 (1) - It'd be cool to see a fade in transition with this slider, (Meaning, 4 green lines going from soft to normal.) also remove the new combo here and apply it to 00:51:840 (3) here, it makes a bit more sense here. Also the blanket here could also use a bit of clean up~
00:54:698 (1) - I suggest you move this to here, it felt cluttered between (4) & (5).
01:18:448 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:19:162 (1) - ^
01:19:876 (1) - ^
01:20:412 (2) - Add new combo here after removing the previous ones mentioned before.
01:22:377 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:23:269 (3) - After removing the new combo from 01:22:377 (1), add a new combo here.
01:28:626 (1) - Imo, the finish would sound better than the clap.
01:30:412 (4) - Remove clap~
01:33:269 (3) - ^
01:33:983 (1) - Remove new combo, then apply it to 01:34:698 (3), removing the clap and leaving the finish. Also remove the new combos on 01:35:769 (1), 01:36:305 (1) and 01:36:840 (1) respectively.
01:38:983 (1,2) - remove new combo on (1) and apply it to (2).
01:49:162 (1) Maybe extend this to 01:51:662.
01:58:983 (1) - Maybe add a finish here~
02:08:983 (1) - remove new combo and apply it to 02:10:412 (3) adding a finish hitsound, follow by removing the new combo on 02:11:840 (1).
02:13:269 (1) - Maybe add a finish here?
02:18:983 (1) - Remove clap.
02:21:843 (1) - ^
02:27:198 (3) - Remove finish, add it on 02:27:555 (1) in the repeat of the slider.
02:29:162 (2) - Remove finish.
02:31:662 (1,1) - remove the new combo and then a remove it at 02:32:376(1) then add it on 02:33:269 (3) (6 if you did the new combo)
02:37:376 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:40:412 (1) - ^ also remove the finish.
02:42:555 (3) - Add a finish at the slider end or remove one repeat from the slider, bring 02:43:269 (1) back a red tick and extend this to 02:44:698.
03:00:055 (1) - remove new combo
03:13:626 (1) - ^
03:18:626 (1,1) - ^ I want to keep the NCs to emphasize the ending, but I'll think about changing it

Accepted all changes except for the last one. Thanks!

[Insane]

Tested this out before I even got started and I think AR 9 is pushing it a bit, maybe dial it down to 8.
I think AR8 is too slow. I like AR9 but I'll consider bumping it down a little bit

00:22:006 (7) Maybe add a new combo here, and remove the one on 00:22:198 (1).
00:26:840 (11) - This slider could be better, maybe thiscould be a suggestion.
00:38:983 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Why not make it similar to 00:38:269 (6,7,8,9,1)? I like it the way it is now, but I'll play around with it.
00:56:126 (1) - I rather see this as a curved slider than a straight slider.
00:57:555 (1) - Add finish.
01:03:314 (1) - Remove clap.
01:08:983 (1) - Add a finish at the head of the slider.
01:14:340 (8) - Maybe couple it with 01:13:626 (4,5,6,7) to complete a star pattern instead of making it a random jump.
01:14:698 (1) - Add a finish.
01:39:698 (1,2,3,4,5) - This could've been a nice star pattern~
01:46:126 (7) - Add a new combo here.
01:48:983 (14) - ^
01:49:519 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:18:269 (1) - ^ I think a NC here is ok.
02:42:555 (3,4,5,6) - Make this a square pattern. Feels too stiff.
02:43:269 (1) - Extend this spinner to 02:44:698.
02:53:090 (1,2,3,4,5) - There is a bit of inconsistency with the spacing.
03:18:269 (1,1,1) - Maybe form a triangle jump here~

Accepted all the other changes.

Overall, this map could use a bit of more work, with the placement of hit sounds and the jumps on the Lunatic diff, but nevertheless, i'll check back when the full map is out~ good luck :oops:

Thanks for all of your help (especially with the hitsounds). I really appreciate it! :)
Last edited by MokouSmoke , edited 1 time in total.
SannyStar
SannyStar
Offset:
MokouSmoke
495 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
MokouSmoke

SannyStar wrote:

Offset:
Please redownload. Changed mp3 from 320 kbps to 145-185 kbps which caused timing issues. Everything should be fixed now, but let me know if there are still issues!
KuroSenpai112
114 posts
Joined December 2013
KuroSenpai112
From #modreqs

[Lunatic]
00:34:835 (8) - Ctrl + J this slider and place it back in the same spot. This will provide a smoother flow to (1).
00:49:478 (6,1,2,3) - Adjust a slider a bit, change the placements of (1,2,3) so that it smoothly leads to (4). It should look like this in the end:
SPOILER

01:04:657 (4) - rotate this repeater so it looks like the pic below. This is for a smoother flow.
SPOILER
01:17:157 (1) - For me it feels awkward to have the slider tail so close to (2). I suggest changing the shape of the slider overall and keep spacing consistent.
01:27:871 (8) - Adjust this slider so it looks like this:
SPOILER
01:29:478 (8) - Move this to x:320 y: 124. This is for better flow.

That's it for lunatic.

[Hard]
The flow in this difficulty is much better! Nothing here I can find!

[Normal]
00:03:943 (1) - Flip the shape of the slider horizontally. This gives a better flow to (2).
02:33:407 (1) - Remove NC
02:34:121 (1) - Remove NC

Nothing else!

Hopefully my mod helps!
Good luck!
MokouSmoke
495 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
MokouSmoke

KuroSenpai112 wrote:

From #modreqs

[Lunatic]
00:34:835 (8) - Ctrl + J this slider and place it back in the same spot. This will provide a smoother flow to (1). fixed
00:49:478 (6,1,2,3) - Adjust a slider a bit, change the placements of (1,2,3) so that it smoothly leads to (4). It should look like this in the end: Changed it to something else.
SPOILER

01:04:657 (4) - rotate this repeater so it looks like the pic below. This is for a smoother flow. that looks kinda ugly, but I see what you mean. I changed it to something else.
SPOILER
01:17:157 (1) - For me it feels awkward to have the slider tail so close to (2). I suggest changing the shape of the slider overall and keep spacing consistent. fixed and also DSed the following jumps
01:27:871 (8) - Adjust this slider so it looks like this: fixed
SPOILER
01:29:478 (8) - Move this to x:320 y: 124. This is for better flow. fixed

That's it for lunatic.

[Hard]
The flow in this difficulty is much better! Nothing here I can find! I mapped lunatic first and hard last. Guess I'm improving! :)

[Normal]
00:03:943 (1) - Flip the shape of the slider horizontally. This gives a better flow to (2). I like it better as is, but I'll think about it.
02:33:407 (1) - Remove NC fixed
02:34:121 (1) - Remove NC fixed

Nothing else!

Hopefully my mod helps! Thanks a lot! All your suggestions were good!
Good luck!
polka
1,125 posts
Joined March 2014
polka
Hi from my modding queue! Since I can't mod Insane or guest difficulties, I will mod normal and hard.

General:
Try REALLY hard not to land or finish things (sliders and streams) on the first and 3rd white ticks. These are important ticks in many 4/4 songs and things should start on them rather than end on them.
I've also noticed you toggle between mapping the song, the lyrics, and then a certain instrument in the song. Which, normally, is okay. But, when you toggle, your patterns change so drastically, so players could struggle adapting to the new patterns so quickly. Be careful with that.
A lot of the mistakes I found were repetitive. So I didn't point them out for the whole map. Just search for them through the rest of the map.
Normal:
00:26:621 Big pet peeve of mine is ending things on 1st and 3rd white ticks. Try and start things on 1st and 3rd white ticks, not end them.
00:29:657 I've noticed you toggle between mapping the lyrics and mapping the music, changing slider distances and proximities, making it difficult for players to find the rhythm
00:32:514 First white tick. Last time I'm pointing this out. Please try to be rid of this as much as possible.
00:33:050 (1) (2) Although it matches the lyrics, this pattern doesn't play well. Stick to 1/1 here. It might sound better.
00:37:514 (2) This slider repeating this much is very confusing, although it matches the lyrics. It's hard to play for Normal players and overall very confusing. Please refrain from having repeating sliders repeat more than once in Normal modes.
00:40:193 (4) (5) This is another pattern that although matches the lyrics, is very confusing to play. I suggest a white tick/white tick slider followed by a red tick/red tick slider
00:43:228 (2) ^ my god

It's basically the same stuff from there on out. Change anything like that o^o
Hard:
The sound effects in this one are a little random and could use some consistency.
Your spacing is also off a lot.
00:03:943 Again with ending on 1st and 3rd white ticks :/
00:05:014 (2) to (3) spacing is not the same to (3) to (4).
00:09:300s This stream is a bit big. Instead of ending it on the white tick, end it on the blue tick before and make a slider on the white tick instead?
00:18:407 (2) This short slider before the long one plays weird. Maybe just a triplet will work.
01:02:157 I think just a repeat slider will work here.
02:00:907 (1) (2) (3) That doesn't match anything in the song why is that there o^o; Please change that.
01:47:514 ^
02:12:514 This SV change is unnecessary in my opinion.
03:03:585 A repeat slider that repeats x amount of times will work here.
03:08:943 (7) This slider is a bit unsightly.

That's all. Good luck :D
MokouSmoke
495 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
MokouSmoke

PolkaMocha wrote:

Hi from my modding queue! Since I can't mod Insane or guest difficulties, I will mod normal and hard.

General:
Try REALLY hard not to land or finish things (sliders and streams) on the first and 3rd white ticks. These are important ticks in many 4/4 songs and things should start on them rather than end on them.
I've also noticed you toggle between mapping the song, the lyrics, and then a certain instrument in the song. Which, normally, is okay. But, when you toggle, your patterns change so drastically, so players could struggle adapting to the new patterns so quickly. Be careful with that.
A lot of the mistakes I found were repetitive. So I didn't point them out for the whole map. Just search for them through the rest of the map.
I'm quite new to mapping so thanks for the advice!

Normal: Accepted all mods and remapped a lot of sections. >:(
00:26:621 Big pet peeve of mine is ending things on 1st and 3rd white ticks. Try and start things on 1st and 3rd white ticks, not end them.
00:29:657 I've noticed you toggle between mapping the lyrics and mapping the music, changing slider distances and proximities, making it difficult for players to find the rhythm
00:32:514 First white tick. Last time I'm pointing this out. Please try to be rid of this as much as possible.
00:33:050 (1) (2) Although it matches the lyrics, this pattern doesn't play well. Stick to 1/1 here. It might sound better.
00:37:514 (2) This slider repeating this much is very confusing, although it matches the lyrics. It's hard to play for Normal players and overall very confusing. Please refrain from having repeating sliders repeat more than once in Normal modes.
00:40:193 (4) (5) This is another pattern that although matches the lyrics, is very confusing to play. I suggest a white tick/white tick slider followed by a red tick/red tick slider
00:43:228 (2) ^ my god Lol, I'm sorry. Everything is fixed now though :p

It's basically the same stuff from there on out. Change anything like that o^o
Hard:
The sound effects in this one are a little random and could use some consistency.
Your spacing is also off a lot.
00:03:943 Again with ending on 1st and 3rd white ticks :/ I think this one is ok.
00:05:014 (2) to (3) spacing is not the same to (3) to (4). fixed
00:09:300s This stream is a bit big. Instead of ending it on the white tick, end it on the blue tick before and make a slider on the white tick instead? I like how it is now, but I might change it.
00:18:407 (2) This short slider before the long one plays weird. Maybe just a triplet will work. fine
01:02:157 I think just a repeat slider will work here. I want to keep a note on the red tick.
02:00:907 (1) (2) (3) That doesn't match anything in the song why is that there o^o; Please change that. It goes with the vocals and piano x.x I'll change it if additional people comment on it.
01:47:514 ^ fixed
02:12:514 This SV change is unnecessary in my opinion. It matches the calmer pace in this short section.
03:03:585 A repeat slider that repeats x amount of times will work here. fixed
03:08:943 (7) This slider is a bit unsightly. fixed shape

That's all. Good luck :D Thanks for all the feedback! :)
B r o k e n
364 posts
Joined May 2014
B r o k e n
#modreq mod4mod
Normal
00:14:657-should prob start with the vocal, add notes
00:41:412-idk about this slider, should change it
01:18:221-^
01:42:514-^
01:43:764-it's fine but should end the slider sooner, then and a shorter slider after or single notes
02:01:085-not so sure about this slider, but it does sound fine
02:42:871-random spinner start, should move back closer to 02:41:800 (3) - or just remove the spinner
03:18:228-spinner for end maybe
Hard
00:44:121- this return slider isn't really needed
00:48:585-i dont recommend this return slider, break or single notes or sliders for the drum instead or whatever the instrumental part is xD
01:38:407-i dont think the slider should end here like that should make it end 01:38:585 instead
02:24:300 (2) - note should be more behind the slider before it instead of on top of 02:24:478 (3) -
03:18:228-spinner instead of this note
NOTE: to any other notes such as 02:23:943 (1,2)(this is fine 02:27:335 (2,3,4) - 02:36:621 (4,5) - not fine, should really think about putting right at the end of the slider instead of a distance stuff like this is fine for like insane but for hard i don't really recommend it, only distance if theirs like a stream right behind it) - i dont recommend the notes to have much of a distance from each other for hard mode, should be pretty much stacked with each other instead
Lunatic
00:21:264-stack behind 00:21:264 (1) (to look nicer in edit mode, not really needed, but to look nicer tho :D)
00:24:657-maybe stack behind 00:23:764 (4) - to look nicer(readjust distance snap if u do move notes around)
00:30:022-stack behind 00:29:121 (4) -
00:40:193 (2,3,4,5) - I don't recommend this stack of single here, distance snap them
01:18:764-i know it's that I don't like this return this long,but i would break the slider to just one return and then a slider 01:19:121 end at 01:19:478(i know its for following the vocal, but ew It's just me not liking the long return)
01:22:514-swap with end of this slider 01:22:693, a lot better for the vocal
01:38:407-make slider smaller add single note @ 01:38:764 better fit for vocal like this instead of the slider end starting the vocal
02:11:621- I would add a single note here theirs still vocal here le? li? I think ka na le ta shi?
02:28:943-stack slider end behind 02:28:943?
02:30:907 (5) - -stack slider end behind 02:29:835 (2) - ?
02:52:871- i recommend a note here for vocal doesn't have to be a jump a stack is nice here stack 3 and 4 if you add the note
03:11:800-make slider end behind 03:10:728 (1) - ?
03:16:800-fix this slider
03:18:228-i would choice a spinner here instead of the note to finish laaaaaaaaaaa
hope this helps, good luck with your map :D
Battle
2,862 posts
Joined February 2014
Battle

[Hard]
00:19:657 (1,2,3,1) - Keep spacing consistent on this part, awkward jump at second 1
00:48:585 (1) - It just really sounds awkward

[Insane]
00:07:960 (2,3,4,5) - So like after the 1 was really loud, I found the transition from that to really quiet in the rest of the stream to be awkward
00:50:371 (1,2) - Make these bigger jumps
01:51:800 (1,2) - ^
02:26:800 (1) - Make this a bigger jump to get to 2

Insane was well made imo
MokouSmoke
495 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
MokouSmoke

ScarletOtaku wrote:

#modreq mod4mod
Normal
00:14:657-should prob start with the vocal, add notes too close to end of slider
00:41:412-idk about this slider, should change it broke it up into shorter sliders
01:18:221-^ ^
01:42:514-^ ^
01:43:764-it's fine but should end the slider sooner, then and a shorter slider after or single notes fixed
02:01:085-not so sure about this slider, but it does sound fine I'll keep it for now
02:42:871-random spinner start, should move back closer to 02:41:800 (3) - or just remove the spinner took out spinner
03:18:228-spinner for end maybe Doesn't really match song
Hard
00:44:121- this return slider isn't really needed a 1/4 slider would just be awkward here. plus return falls on downbeat
00:48:585-i dont recommend this return slider, break or single notes or sliders for the drum instead or whatever the instrumental part is xD fixed
01:38:407-i dont think the slider should end here like that should make it end 01:38:585 instead fixed
02:24:300 (2) - note should be more behind the slider before it instead of on top of 02:24:478 (3) - I think the stack is fine
03:18:228-spinner instead of this note I prefer a note here
NOTE: to any other notes such as 02:23:943 (1,2)(this is fine 02:27:335 (2,3,4) - 02:36:621 (4,5) - not fine, should really think about putting right at the end of the slider instead of a distance stuff like this is fine for like insane but for hard i don't really recommend it, only distance if theirs like a stream right behind it) - i dont recommend the notes to have much of a distance from each other for hard mode, should be pretty much stacked with each other instead The distance is short enough that it isn't hard. Plus stacking notes in some of the parts disrupts the flow.
Lunatic
00:21:264-stack behind 00:21:264 (1) (to look nicer in edit mode, not really needed, but to look nicer tho :D) That doesn't flow as well
00:24:657-maybe stack behind 00:23:764 (4) - to look nicer(readjust distance snap if u do move notes around) ^
00:30:022-stack behind 00:29:121 (4) - Already is, but I want to keep the slider directions different
00:40:193 (2,3,4,5) - I don't recommend this stack of single here, distance snap them It goes with the monotone vocals, but I'll think about it
01:18:764-i know it's that I don't like this return this long,but i would break the slider to just one return and then a slider 01:19:121 end at 01:19:478(i know its for following the vocal, but ew It's just me not liking the long return) I'll think about it
01:22:514-swap with end of this slider 01:22:693, a lot better for the vocal I'll think about it
01:38:407-make slider smaller add single note @ 01:38:764 better fit for vocal like this instead of the slider end starting the vocal It's following instrumentals till the end of slider
02:11:621- I would add a single note here theirs still vocal here le? li? I think ka na le ta shi? I originally had a note here, but I think it's better without one. The pause helps to slow down the pace here to transition to the next section. I might put it back in though.
02:28:943-stack slider end behind 02:28:943? Repositioned slightly
02:30:907 (5) - -stack slider end behind 02:29:835 (2) - ? fixed
02:52:871- i recommend a note here for vocal doesn't have to be a jump a stack is nice here stack 3 and 4 if you add the note I'll think about it
03:11:800-make slider end behind 03:10:728 (1) - ? fixed
03:16:800-fix this slider fixed
03:18:228-i would choice a spinner here instead of the note to finish laaaaaaaaaaa Spinners are fast and furious This is supposed to be a very calm vocal sustain :D
hope this helps, good luck with your map :D Thanks for all your suggestions :)
MokouSmoke
495 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
MokouSmoke

[-Deemo-] wrote:


[Hard]
00:19:657 (1,2,3,1) - Keep spacing consistent on this part, awkward jump at second 1 fixed
00:48:585 (1) - It just really sounds awkward fixed

[Insane]
00:07:960 (2,3,4,5) - So like after the 1 was really loud, I found the transition from that to really quiet in the rest of the stream to be awkward I want to keep the hitsounds though. Maybe I'll play around with the volume settings.
00:50:371 (1,2) - Make these bigger jumps fixed
01:51:800 (1,2) - ^ I want these to be easy jumps
02:26:800 (1) - Make this a bigger jump to get to 2 fixed

Insane was well made imo I'm glad you liked it and thanks for the suggestions!
PurpleHawk
80 posts
Joined June 2014
PurpleHawk
Normal
00:12:514 (1) - Too short spinner, this is probably unrankable
I think the main point I could comment on was done through IRC and with the Rhythm example, so I hope that helps you with the mapset :)

IRC
21:00 PurpleHawk: So, what kind of instrument have you mainly been mapping in this song?
21:02 PurpleHawk: Your current offset is different from this:
21:02 PurpleHawk: http://gyazo.com/84dfd1812bc9bdfd278cff1c62a7351f
21:02 MokouSmoke: umm...mostly vocals
21:02 MokouSmoke: yeah that was long before
21:03 MokouSmoke: i had to compress the mp3 which changed the timing
21:04 PurpleHawk: Okey, so personally I prefer mapping the drums or another very noticeable instrument (I strongly prefer drums though) and if that's what you want to map then the offset is about 1/4 off
21:07 MokouSmoke: what do you mean offset is 1/4 off?
21:07 PurpleHawk: That the downbeats are 1/4 after the current offset
21:07 PurpleHawk: so at around 1855 is the first downbeat (from the drums)
21:10 MokouSmoke: right, but I don't follow drums until around 00:14:657 (2) and by then it does fall on the downbeat
21:30 PurpleHawk: Uhmm, with an offset of 1853 I think it follow the beats of the drums throughout the song, I can't quite hear that with the current offset of 1086
21:31 MokouSmoke: ok, I'll test it at 1853 later and see if it fits
21:32 MokouSmoke: did you want me to mod your WIP insane?
21:39 PurpleHawk: Eh, all of the insanes and extras are WIP (re-mapping)
21:39 PurpleHawk: but you could comment the rhythm, that's finished
21:39 MokouSmoke: ok i'll look at it then
21:43 MokouSmoke: I feel your song is short enough that you don't need 5-10sec breaks in between
21:46 PurpleHawk: Oh, yeah, no that's just parts that aren't mapped yet :P
21:46 PurpleHawk: all of the slider/note placements are WIP
21:46 MokouSmoke: ah lol
21:47 MokouSmoke: gotcha
21:50 PurpleHawk: I sent you an example on the website of how I would've mapped the drums (with an offset og 1853)
21:51 PurpleHawk: I only mapped the timing of the notes until the start of the first kiai time
21:51 PurpleHawk: and ignore the note placements, It's only to show the rhythm
21:52 PurpleHawk: It's less difficult, but it still uses the 1/4 drumhits that are in the song for 1/4 tripples. So with exception of the many "fake" 1/2 notes there shouldn't be any skipped 1/1 beats or 1/4 beats in that example
21:53 PurpleHawk: it doesn't follow the vocals the same way your map does though, so I guess it depends what you prefer
21:54 MokouSmoke: I might change it for normal/hard diff but the rhythm is too simple for lunatic
22:04 PurpleHawk: I think you've got some powerful jump material if you want to make it: 00:49:352 (4,5,6,7,8,1) (in the Rhythm diff)
22:04 PurpleHawk: http://gyazo.com/892fbe4ce20a17e9a1ce6f313a8e4c0f
22:04 PurpleHawk: http://gyazo.com/bf0c7b0fcd86a6f9d524d63a8b02cf0c
22:06 PurpleHawk: the same during the spinner at 01:50
22:07 MokouSmoke: eh... at 00:49:478 (6) - all there is a guitar sound, so there isn't anything to suggest jumps
22:08 PurpleHawk: The exact timing is probably different if your not looking at the Rhythm diff
22:09 PurpleHawk: but there is definitely strong beats from the drums, 2 sec and I'll find it in the normal timing
22:13 PurpleHawk: http://gyazo.com/4f787a99247667d6f230183be926646f
22:14 PurpleHawk: 00:49:210 (3)
22:14 PurpleHawk: the (1) slider "catches" the player (and follows the sound of the guitar)
22:15 MokouSmoke: mmm...k i'll play around with it
Rhythm example
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Good luck :D

PS: You don't have to give me kudosu since it's such a short mod (only one specific point)
MokouSmoke
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MokouSmoke

PurpleHawk wrote:

Normal
00:12:514 (1) - Too short spinner, this is probably unrankable Is it? I'll change it to a slider if it's a problem or other people comment on it.

I think the main point I could comment on was done through IRC and with the Rhythm example, so I hope that helps you with the mapset :)
I'll probably keep the rhythms I have for the hard/lunatic diffs, but I'll consider revising normal.

IRC
21:00 PurpleHawk: So, what kind of instrument have you mainly been mapping in this song?
21:02 PurpleHawk: Your current offset is different from this:
21:02 PurpleHawk: http://gyazo.com/84dfd1812bc9bdfd278cff1c62a7351f
21:02 MokouSmoke: umm...mostly vocals
21:02 MokouSmoke: yeah that was long before
21:03 MokouSmoke: i had to compress the mp3 which changed the timing
21:04 PurpleHawk: Okey, so personally I prefer mapping the drums or another very noticeable instrument (I strongly prefer drums though) and if that's what you want to map then the offset is about 1/4 off
21:07 MokouSmoke: what do you mean offset is 1/4 off?
21:07 PurpleHawk: That the downbeats are 1/4 after the current offset
21:07 PurpleHawk: so at around 1855 is the first downbeat (from the drums)
21:10 MokouSmoke: right, but I don't follow drums until around 00:14:657 (2) and by then it does fall on the downbeat
21:30 PurpleHawk: Uhmm, with an offset of 1853 I think it follow the beats of the drums throughout the song, I can't quite hear that with the current offset of 1086
21:31 MokouSmoke: ok, I'll test it at 1853 later and see if it fits
21:32 MokouSmoke: did you want me to mod your WIP insane?
21:39 PurpleHawk: Eh, all of the insanes and extras are WIP (re-mapping)
21:39 PurpleHawk: but you could comment the rhythm, that's finished
21:39 MokouSmoke: ok i'll look at it then
21:43 MokouSmoke: I feel your song is short enough that you don't need 5-10sec breaks in between
21:46 PurpleHawk: Oh, yeah, no that's just parts that aren't mapped yet :P
21:46 PurpleHawk: all of the slider/note placements are WIP
21:46 MokouSmoke: ah lol
21:47 MokouSmoke: gotcha
21:50 PurpleHawk: I sent you an example on the website of how I would've mapped the drums (with an offset og 1853)
21:51 PurpleHawk: I only mapped the timing of the notes until the start of the first kiai time
21:51 PurpleHawk: and ignore the note placements, It's only to show the rhythm
21:52 PurpleHawk: It's less difficult, but it still uses the 1/4 drumhits that are in the song for 1/4 tripples. So with exception of the many "fake" 1/2 notes there shouldn't be any skipped 1/1 beats or 1/4 beats in that example
21:53 PurpleHawk: it doesn't follow the vocals the same way your map does though, so I guess it depends what you prefer
21:54 MokouSmoke: I might change it for normal/hard diff but the rhythm is too simple for lunatic
22:04 PurpleHawk: I think you've got some powerful jump material if you want to make it: 00:49:352 (4,5,6,7,8,1) (in the Rhythm diff)
22:04 PurpleHawk: http://gyazo.com/892fbe4ce20a17e9a1ce6f313a8e4c0f
22:04 PurpleHawk: http://gyazo.com/bf0c7b0fcd86a6f9d524d63a8b02cf0c
22:06 PurpleHawk: the same during the spinner at 01:50
22:07 MokouSmoke: eh... at 00:49:478 (6) - all there is a guitar sound, so there isn't anything to suggest jumps
22:08 PurpleHawk: The exact timing is probably different if your not looking at the Rhythm diff
22:09 PurpleHawk: but there is definitely strong beats from the drums, 2 sec and I'll find it in the normal timing
22:13 PurpleHawk: http://gyazo.com/4f787a99247667d6f230183be926646f
22:14 PurpleHawk: 00:49:210 (3)
22:14 PurpleHawk: the (1) slider "catches" the player (and follows the sound of the guitar)
22:15 MokouSmoke: mmm...k i'll play around with it
Rhythm example
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Nagi - Other Side.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 14300
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.1

[Metadata]
Title:Other Side
TitleUnicode:Other Side
Artist:FELT
ArtistUnicode:FELT
Creator:MokouSmoke
Version:Rhythm
Source:Touhou
Tags:maika mika nagi☆ sevens head sekibanki dullahan under the willows double dealing character th14 zun trammiexo
BeatmapID:0
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[Difficulty]
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SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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Good luck :D Thanks! You too!

PS: You don't have to give me kudosu since it's such a short mod (only one specific point)
Neil Watts
osu! Alumni
1,843 posts
Joined July 2013
Neil Watts
Hi Mokou, from my modding queue :)
Felt OwO, I'll mod the whole mapset!

[General]
- Your background is 1366x753. Only 1366x768 or 1024x768 are allowed as background resolutions.
- Very slight kiai inconsistence for the Hard diff, it starts on 00:51:086 and ends on 01:11:086, one millisecond more than in the other diffs
- The stack leniency on the Normal diff is 0.2, you should set it between 0.3 and 0.9.
- No storyboard -> disable the Widescreen support in song setup for all the diffs.
- Combo colors : You may use purple, since it's the main color in background.
- For all the breaks around 02:43:943 - I recommend you to start the break a bit later to give a nice effect during gameplay - http://puu.sh/igaXk/cb607b62be.jpg
- The hitsounds are really inaudible and/or inconsistent in all the diffs, and an hitsound remapping may be necessary, they're ways too inconsistent. Choosing custom hitsounds would be nice too, I recommend you to pick some from custom hitsound libraries, like LKs one. (userpage)
[trammiexo's Normal]
- 00:09:657 (1,2) - mm, not sure if using 1/2 here is a good thing, I'd suggest you to make a 3/2 slider.
- 00:15:371 (1) - (the whole part) you may avoid to use normal hitwhistles, a bit loud for this calm part in the song.
I'd rather remove the normal hitwhistles until this part 00:26:800 (1) - .
- 00:35:371 (1) - why this whistle, it's so loud :(
- 01:52:514 (1) - I'm not sure if a clap and a finish are a good idea here, I think it fits bad with the song
- 02:23:943 (1) - there are strong notes in the song but no hitsounding at all
- 02:27:335 (4) - this slider doesn't fit with the rhythm of the song
- 03:38:228 (1) - This is a calm end, why a finish here ;__; - also, try to finish the spinner on a big white tick here 03:45:371 - would be more appropriate
Except the messy hitsounding, the map itself is nice.
[Normal]
Two normal diffs? oh well, why not
- 00:48:585 (6) - overusing of finish here
- 02:05:014 (4) - why isn't there claps like in the first part of the kiai ?
The mapping is nice, except some old-shaped sliders (00:36:085 (3) - for example) but this is a personal opinion. :P

[Hard]
- 00:22:335 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think it may fit better if you mirror this slider with the other one http://puu.sh/igdUD/8d63301efa.jpg
- 01:13:943 (1,2,3) - you failed your stack here
- 02:12:514 (1,2,3,4) - Be careful to your spacing here. These are anti-jumps, but it isn't very intuitive.

[Lunatic]
- 00:07:871 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is overmapping imo
- 00:10:193 (4,5,6,7,8) - same here
- 00:46:085 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't feel this pattern very intuitive or even fitting with the song.
- 00:52:335 (7,8,1) - try to stack them ?
- 01:07:514 (6,7,8,9,10) - overmapping
- 01:11:085 (1,2,3) - the distances are almost the same, but the timing is different. Check your spacing.
- 01:18:050 (6) - please avoid so much reverses on a big slider, try to make another pattern to replace it
- 01:41:621 (1,2,3,4,5) - the distances are a bit inconsistent here (between the antijumps and the slider)
- 01:47:335 (5,6,7) - did you failed your stack ?
- 02:03:585 (1,2,3,4) - try a stream instead of a stack ?
- 02:41:085 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - wow, check your distances
- 02:54:121 (1,2,3) - stacking fail
Nice map, good luck for ranking! :D
MokouSmoke
495 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
MokouSmoke

Neil Watts wrote:

Hi Mokou, from my modding queue :)
Felt OwO, I'll mod the whole mapset!

[General]
- Your background is 1366x753. Only 1366x768 or 1024x768 are allowed as background resolutions. fixed
- Very slight kiai inconsistence for the Hard diff, it starts on 00:51:086 and ends on 01:11:086, one millisecond more than in the other diffs fixed
- The stack leniency on the Normal diff is 0.2, you should set it between 0.3 and 0.9. It'll be changed
- No storyboard -> disable the Widescreen support in song setup for all the diffs. fixed
- Combo colors : You may use purple, since it's the main color in background. I'll think about it
- For all the breaks around 02:43:943 - I recommend you to start the break a bit later to give a nice effect during gameplay - http://puu.sh/igaXk/cb607b62be.jpg Hard and lunatic are mapped differently, but changed for normal
- The hitsounds are really inaudible and/or inconsistent in all the diffs, and an hitsound remapping may be necessary, they're ways too inconsistent. Choosing custom hitsounds would be nice too, I recommend you to pick some from custom hitsound libraries, like LKs one. (userpage)
Yeah, I know. I'm terrible at hit sound placement x.x Once I find the right custom hitsounds, I'll add them.


[Normal]
Two normal diffs? oh well, why not
- 00:48:585 (6) - overusing of finish here I agree, but it's too soft w/o finish. Once I find custom hitsounds I'll probably add some here.
- 02:05:014 (4) - why isn't there claps like in the first part of the kiai ? because I can't hitsound lol (fixed)
The mapping is nice, except some old-shaped sliders (00:36:085 (3) - for example) but this is a personal opinion. :P Lol truth. I'm still tweaking the slider shapes

[Hard]
- 00:22:335 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think it may fit better if you mirror this slider with the other one http://puu.sh/igdUD/8d63301efa.jpg fixed
- 01:13:943 (1,2,3) - you failed your stack here fixed
- 02:12:514 (1,2,3,4) - Be careful to your spacing here. These are anti-jumps, but it isn't very intuitive. I think it matches well with the song though

[Lunatic]
- 00:07:871 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is overmapping imo I'll think about changing it, but I like the build-up in difficulty until 00:12:514
- 00:10:193 (4,5,6,7,8) - same here ^
- 00:46:085 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't feel this pattern very intuitive or even fitting with the song. What's wrong with it? :(
- 00:52:335 (7,8,1) - try to stack them ? I like the spacing
- 01:07:514 (6,7,8,9,10) - overmapping I think it fits with the previous triplets. I'll change it if other people comment on it.
- 01:11:085 (1,2,3) - the distances are almost the same, but the timing is different. Check your spacing. fixed
- 01:18:050 (6) - please avoid so much reverses on a big slider, try to make another pattern to replace it Changed to something else
- 01:41:621 (1,2,3,4,5) - the distances are a bit inconsistent here (between the antijumps and the slider) fixed
- 01:47:335 (5,6,7) - did you failed your stack ? lol yes
- 02:03:585 (1,2,3,4) - try a stream instead of a stack ? changed
- 02:41:085 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - wow, check your distances fixed
- 02:54:121 (1,2,3) - stacking fail fixed
Nice map, good luck for ranking! :D You too and thanks for all of the suggestions! :)
Everything
81 posts
Joined September 2013
Everything

Neil Watts wrote:

[trammiexo's Normal]
- 00:09:657 (1,2) - mm, not sure if using 1/2 here is a good thing, I'd suggest you to make a 3/2 slider. I changed the pattern here
- 00:15:371 (1) - (the whole part) you may avoid to use normal hitwhistles, a bit loud for this calm part in the song. Can't tell the difference because my personal skin has a different sound for whistle ;w; but will improvise
I'd rather remove the normal hitwhistles until this part 00:26:800 (1) - .
- 00:35:371 (1) - why this whistle, it's so loud :( as I said above, no idea because it sounds normal in my skin ;o;, will change the hitsound though
- 01:52:514 (1) - I'm not sure if a clap and a finish are a good idea here, I think it fits bad with the song there's no clap here xD, it just sounds like it
- 02:23:943 (1) - there are strong notes in the song but no hitsounding at all fixed!
- 02:27:335 (4) - this slider doesn't fit with the rhythm of the song maybe not with the rhythm, but definitely the instruments that are following, will consider though
- 03:38:228 (1) - This is a calm end, why a finish here ;__; - also, try to finish the spinner on a big white tick here 03:45:371 - would be more appropriate ended on the white tick, and finish sounds soft on my skin LOL but I'll fix it
Except the messy hitsounding, the map itself is nice. thanks! and my hitsounding needs improvement ;w;
Thank you kindly for the mod :D
proFiCiENT
6 posts
Joined July 2013
proFiCiENT
Hello! This is (a part) of my GD!

I'm a slow mapper so it's going to take a while (It's half way done).... I'm hoping it going to turn out to be ~4.9 stars. Tell me if acceptable (? :D )(The intro is going to need a lot more work but i'm on it!)

SPOILER
osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 14300
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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BeatDivisor: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:Other Side
TitleUnicode:Other Side
Artist:FELT
ArtistUnicode:FELT
Creator:MokouSmoke
Version:proFiCiENT
Source:Touhou
Tags:maika mika nagi☆ sevens head sekibanki dullahan under the willows double dealing character th14 zun trammiexo
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172,316,95550,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,148,95728,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,104,95907,2,0,L|300:36,1,90
108,216,96264,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,312,96443,2,0,L|424:244,1,90
332,92,96800,1,0,0:0:0:0:
84,136,96978,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,140,97068,1,0,0:0:0:0:
80,140,97157,2,0,P|48:76|64:44,1,90
360,212,97514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,212,97603,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,212,97693,2,0,P|396:180|384:132,1,90
136,304,98050,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,304,98139,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,304,98228,2,0,P|108:236|120:212,1,90
356,104,98585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,200,98764,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,200,98853,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,200,98943,2,0,L|48:112,1,90
312,56,99300,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,56,99389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,56,99478,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,56,99568,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,56,99657,2,0,P|380:144|400:228,1,180
160,308,100193,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,72,100371,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,216,100550,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,180,100728,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,180,100818,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,180,100907,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,180,100996,1,0,0:0:0:0:
112,180,101085,2,0,P|56:120|88:32,1,180
332,72,101621,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,280,101800,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,280,101889,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,280,101978,2,0,L|456:344,1,90
200,68,102335,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,272,102514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,272,102603,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,272,102693,2,0,L|44:352,1,90
376,172,103050,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,172,103139,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,172,103228,2,0,L|448:108,1,90
92,56,103585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,56,103675,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,56,103764,2,0,L|128:160,1,90
121,141,104121,1,0,0:0:0:0:
121,141,104300,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,332,104478,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,332,104657,1,0,0:0:0:0:
452,184,104835,1,0,0:0:0:0:
452,184,105014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,104,105193,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,104,105282,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,104,105371,2,0,P|76:144|60:244,1,180
56,208,105907,1,0,0:0:0:0:
56,208,106085,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,292,106264,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,292,106443,1,0,0:0:0:0:
408,80,106621,1,0,0:0:0:0:
408,80,106800,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,176,106978,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,312,107157,1,0,0:0:0:0:
132,64,107335,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,332,107514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,332,107603,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,332,107693,2,0,P|360:252|312:112,1,270
318,109,108318,1,0,0:0:0:0:
284,86,108407,1,0,0:0:0:0:
247,74,108496,1,0,0:0:0:0:
206,69,108585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
168,73,108675,1,0,0:0:0:0:
127,90,108764,1,0,0:0:0:0:
102,113,108853,1,0,0:0:0:0:
78,150,108943,1,0,0:0:0:0:
74,189,109032,1,0,0:0:0:0:
87,222,109121,1,0,0:0:0:0:
108,253,109210,1,0,0:0:0:0:
139,275,109300,1,0,0:0:0:0:
175,281,109389,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,274,109478,1,0,0:0:0:0:
249,273,109568,1,0,0:0:0:0:
282,291,109657,1,0,0:0:0:0:
314,296,109746,2,0,B|421:302|497:242|486:58|377:38|288:49|193:68,1,495
256,192,110907,12,0,111621,0:0:0:0:
56,240,111800,5,0,0:0:0:0:
56,240,112157,1,0,0:0:0:0:
56,240,112514,1,0,0:0:0:0:
84,248,112603,1,0,0:0:0:0:
124,256,112693,1,0,0:0:0:0:
160,252,112782,1,0,0:0:0:0:
196,240,112871,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,220,112960,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,188,113050,1,0,0:0:0:0:
252,152,113139,1,0,0:0:0:0:
260,116,113228,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,76,113318,1,0,0:0:0:0:
300,48,113407,1,0,0:0:0:0:
340,40,113496,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,44,113585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,56,113675,1,0,0:0:0:0:
452,72,113764,1,0,0:0:0:0:
476,108,113853,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,144,113943,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,176,114032,2,0,P|444:264|392:312,1,161.999995056153
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